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May 24, 2012

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silvano

this people didn't learn from past history .they ware a refuge in all the world , they ware a refuge in Eritrea ,and as they complained the eritreans are the most peaceful and zero crime country ,also they shire history with Israel .But the truth is they are racist ,as history repited by it self .

spacedout BT

Egypt doesn't have this problem because they will deport any criminal offender back to his home country where most likely they will kill him

pearshapedthings

@gretchen the dumb cunt "there never was an Arab state called “Palestine” and no one even claimed there was until well after the United Nations created Israel in 1948. The land on which Israel was created by the U.N. was also used by the colonial powers to create Syria, Iraq, Lebanon and Jordan. It was land that had belonged to Turkey for 400 years. The Turks are not “Palestinians” and are not even Arabs."


these sudan niggers need to go back to sudan and stop robbing and raping jews...

you american faggots live your life in comfort fondling your cocks and eating bagels...

Gretchen

"I wonder why there arent any refugeees in egypt or jordan its perplexing."

@Jew : There are, they're called Palestinians and they're the largest refugee population in the world and they CAN'T go home.

Ty

Mood those nigges deserve it!

GetAJob

However Isreal with her tiny size, and remit, can not be expected to cope with unresricted migration, from africa or anywhere else.

Posted by: Steven in UK | May 24, 2012 at 06:58 AM

Excellent point.

I think that at the very least any illegal who is not working should be deported. One can debate the point as to how to deal with the productive ones.

Korbendallas72

This is all the result of the continued Occupation, the maintaining of which poisons all of Israeli (and Jewish) society, making it increasingly more hostile to all outsiders, as well as more fundamentalist, more vindictive, more aggressive, more hate-filled. Even if you don't give a damn about the Palestinians, the creation of a viable Palestinian state is now vital for the spiritual and mental health of Israel itself.

Posted by: Byzantium | May 24, 2012 at 03:13 AM

Thanks for that wonderful piece of leftist-globalist new-age garbage rhetoric. These are the tones of doleful lamentation the texts say the nations will use when condemning us.

Steven in UK

There can be no place for racial violance anywhere, most certainly not in a Jewish state!.

However Isreal with her tiny size, and remit, can not be expected to cope with unresricted migration, from africa or anywhere else.

keep israel clean

if the israeli do not want africans in the country . they should not accept them from the beginning . that way , no clash . no rally , no problem .

the israeli gvt should let the africans into the country only with a short term tourist visa .

that's all we need . africans in israel .
then what ? chinesers ? koreans ? filipinos ? pakistani ?

Dvidi

A video of the incident is here..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KiahzVgSCE&feature=g-u-u

Bob Guthrie

OooOoh,...

I'm watching this on France24's live net feed *facepalm* This is going to take a lot out of the Jewish "We are a persecuted people" argument bag.

I haven't even seen a Jewish person acting this... savagely in my life. They are like doppelgängers from all the people I met in my years in Israel!. I thought we were better than this.

Ouch, one news service is calling it Israeli Night of Broken Glass,... Yes,Kristallnacht. Somebody else noted the correlation. Xp

 ruthie

i once asked a women what she was going to do with her house.
a black family (a pilot and his family) had moved into the neighborhood....and some homes immediately put up "for sale" signs.
this woman, a survivor, looked at me and said "after how the jews were treated, i should treat someone like that?"
she was the loveliest woman i have ever met.

Byzantium

This is all the result of the continued Occupation, the maintaining of which poisons all of Israeli (and Jewish) society, making it increasingly more hostile to all outsiders, as well as more fundamentalist, more vindictive, more aggressive, more hate-filled. Even if you don't give a damn about the Palestinians, the creation of a viable Palestinian state is now vital for the spiritual and mental health of Israel itself.

Bob Guthrie

*Sigh*
From Haaretz:

Carmela Rosner:

"The only way to get the authority's attention, she added, was to cause physical harm to the migrants. "I don't want that to happen, but there's no alternative," she said, though at the same time she acknowledged that "violence is not the answer."

Bob Guthrie

Posted by: TheRealJoe

Israel doesn't have a shortage of soldiers and bring(ing) the Africans into the Army would only create problems.

Wrong AND racists. Did you miss the whole IDF, Tal Law, Haredim discussion, TheRealJoe?. Yes, there is a shortage of available personnel for Jewish Military Duty.

And, there is already Africans serving in the IDF too, Goebbels. Information, is your friend. Try it.

Bob Guthrie

Points offered: The immigration problem

GOOD. There is a consensus that there is an illegal problem in Israel, and the government should do something about it (which they are, fence and detention camp),...

Now, how about this posts message: "SHAME: Israelis Riot, Loot, Attack, Stone African Refugees".

I.e. Some Jewish people acting no better that some of the illegal criminal at best, as WWII German Nazies at worst.

What about their actions being broadcast everywhere, bubbes?. Being racist, violent and criminal is not an excuse/response to an immigration problem, ever.

Bob Guthrie

Posted by: Hakham Yosef Haim

Many Israelis are complaining that there are not enough Israeli soldiers because the haredim are refusing to join the army. Haredim are not fit to be soldiers but these tough black African refugees would be excellent soldiers.

Do you know how insulting AND racist this paragraph is?. You are comparing the Chasidim as weak, lily white, limp wristed patsies, while insinuating that Black African refugees are just beasts of burden only fit to take a terrorist bullet for those same patsies.

Way to insert thy foot down thy throat. =/

TheRealJoe

@Hakham Yosef Haim

Israel doesn't have a shortage of soldiers and bring the Africans into the Army would only create problems.

The real question is if we allow every disfranchised person a free pass to move to Israel then it will cease to be a Jewish State within a few years.

Josiah Nott

"but these tough black African refugees would be excellent soldiers"

Jimmy "the Greek" Snyder couldn't have said it better LOL! There must be a secret Ama"n (Israeli Military Intelligence) program to breed Black super-soldiers. Where's Yaakov when you need him? There were also super-soldiers on the X-Files.

Korbendallas72

Israel does have a serious infiltrator problem. African refugees mean African social issues and it seems that the Israeli government needs better controls on its refugee and immigration policies.

Suzanne

Illegals are huge problem in Israel. Just ask the victims of thier crimes. They are raping,robing and terrorizing the Israeli population. They are coming in by the hundreds and just their sneaking into the country in the first place is a crime. The Israelis have been pretty gracious to them thus far but the national borders of any country must be respected. It is way past time they were deported.

Hakham Yosef Haim

Why doesn't the Israeli government tell these refugees from Africa that they will only be allowed to stay in Israel if they join the Israeli army and that any refugee male or female between the ages of 18 and 55 will be deported together with their children unless they join the Israeli army. Many Israelis are complaining that there are not enough Israeli soldiers because the haredim are refusing to join the army. Haredim are not fit to be soldiers but these tough black African refugees would be excellent soldiers. They would certainly be better soldiers than haredim would be. If they are willing to join the army they should be given political asylum in Israel.

Korbendallas72

I suggest their resentment of the Africans runs far deeper than mere haredi incitement
Posted by: MoishieCohen | May 23, 2012 at 06:46 PM

The Haredim would never do this. It has to be secular or national religious Jews. Pull a Jew out of his car and beat him, this is what a Haredi would do but an immigrant? Not in 100 years.

E

Protesters who live in the working class neighborhoods that are flooded by the illegal immigrants spoke of harassment and physical attacks that have become a daily occurrence. Several cases of sexual assaults against Jewish women have been reported in recent months.

Bob Guthrie

Posted by: Sol

Maybe its about time for these refugees to come to the good old USA. Here they could live without prejudice.

Sol, you been a little too long out in the Sun. =)

Bob Guthrie

Posted by: MoishieCohen
Shmarya, why do you write

Posted by: TheRealJoe
@shmarya, your WRONG,...

Why you guys even post on a discussion forum anymore?. What part of "SHAME: Israelis Riot, Loot, Attack, Stone African Refugees" are you guys missing?. That's the incident that's currently tarnishing the reputation go the Jewish people this week on Israel, and being covered around the world, by many news outlets, paper, visual, and net wise.

No matter how heinous the subject is, the only thing I keep seeing from you guys is "Shmarya bad, Shmarya mean, baaaaw".

Contribute or discuss about how to provide solutions about this latest incident and post, stop complaining is not presented just right for your views.

jew

I wonder why there arent any refugeees in egypt or jordan its perplexing.

TheRealJoe

@shmarya, your WRONG, but of course you won't admit it.

These protesters aren't religious, and most of the Politicians attending the rally also aren't religious.

These illegal immigrants, NOW that they DO have a country to go back to (South Sudan), they should tell Israel thanks for hosting us and bye bye.

Instead they are busy raping women and stealing blue collar jobs from poor Israeli's.

Sol

Maybe its about time for these refugees to come to the good old USA. Here they could live without prejudice.

MoishieCohen

Shmarya, why do you write

More than 1,000 Israelis protested this evening (Wednesday) against the African refugees and asylum seekers

Yet neglect to quote, or amend, the words used by the same haaretz article you link to?

Over a thousand people demonstrated Wednesday night in south Tel Aviv, calling on Israeli authorities to expel illegal migrants.

Josiah Nott

I have a better question. With all the tragedies you have blogged about since 2004, have you started ANY OTHER post with "SHAME" or is that only reserved for beloved Black people?

Josiah Nott

"And while not technically Orthodox, they DO listen to rabbis"

Boy are you ever on thin ice with that stretttttttttch. There are plenty of Israeli citizens who hate the Black illegals including hundreds of thousands of non-Jewish Russians.

There is a non-Jewish motorcycle gang in the Hudson Valley that has asked a rosh yeshiva for advice & blessings. Are you going to lump them together with orthodox Jews when they do drugs or commit other crimes? I'm not kidding about these bikers.

MoishieCohen

if it was the religious who did this if they did no surprise if it was the secular shame on them

Posted by: seymour | May 23, 2012 at 07:13 PM

A comment borne out of ignorance.

In Israel the secular Jews of askenazic origin have long been held to be racist towards their sefardic brethren.

No surprise if it's secular Jews caught up in this.

seymour

sad, after our long history, then how can we ever complain if we are denied asylum or entrance to a country.

while i understand it is not exactly the same this is not the solution.

again we will see if it was the religious who did this if they did no surprise if it was the secular shame on them

Shmarya

What a nonsensical suggestion.

Are you seriously suggesting that secular Israelis were influenced by the views of haredi rabbis - influenced enough, to loot and run rampage?

They don't listen to them for anything else, so why should they for this? Heck, most hilonim would be hard pressed to name any haredi rabbis other than rabbis Yosef and Elyashiv.

I hate to burst your bubble, but most of these rioters are traditional Jews. Many are Sefardim.

And while not technically Orthodox, they DO listen to rabbis.

MarkfromShortHills

My good God. Hitler would have been so, so pleased. Just imagine the conversation in Wannsee: "Mein Fuehrer, the Jews are killing the Negroes!"

It goes even further than Guthrie notes at 6:48. Just as the Nazis did, we have Jews performing destructive medical procedures on helpless poor people. Another ghastly parallel.

Bob Guthrie

The incitement to this violence over the past two years has come primarily from Zionist Orthodox(,) haredi rabbis, and right wing politicians

Nationalsozialismus members.

[UPDATE: As of midnight, activists in Hatikva are still reporting looting and occasional attacks on Africans.]

Kristallnacht,...

It's making the news worldwide, both in and out of thr Internet. I don't know what has being the most damaging act by extremists or criminals in the last few days: the stripping out of live internal organs of mostly Europen Goyin for money, or the hate attacks on another set of people living in Israel because of their race.

MoishieCohen

The incitement to this violence over the past two years has come primarily from Zionist Orthodox and haredi rabbis

What a nonsensical suggestion.

Are you seriously suggesting that secular Israelis were influenced by the views of haredi rabbis - influenced enough, to loot and run rampage?

They don't listen to them for anything else, so why should they for this? Heck, most hilonim would be hard pressed to name any haredi rabbis other than rabbis Yosef and Elyashiv.

I suggest their resentment of the Africans runs far deeper than mere haredi incitement

Jake

That was Hatikvah.

Traditionally it had been a poor neighborhood of North African and Yemenite Jews known for it's open air market and Yehua Avazee grilled meats.

Jake

Batik ah is definitely not a. Charadie neighborhood.

think for a change

and who was at the protest may I ask? were they religious jews?

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