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May 17, 2012

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LikeItIs

when we published the names of the defendants, our victims were regularly harassed, and most of our cases fell apart

There you have it in a nutshell!

tesyaa

That's Ed Koch - he tells it like it is. Good for him!

Abracadabra

Kudos to Mayor Koch!! Thank you for standing up for what's right and just!

Mike S.

@Likeitis,
It is the purview of the presiding justice(s) to decide when and if records are to be sealed; that is to say we already have a mechanism for dealing with such situations and it is one in which the power resides within the judicial branch and not with the prosecutor (ie not with law enforcement which is ultimately part of the executive branch).

Additionally, there is another means by which the DA may choose to address the specific issue you point to: bringing charges of witness tampering and intimidation against the responsible parties.

Mayor Koch is correct; equal treatment of all parties under the law is required to maintain 'the rule of law'.

LikeItIs

Mr. Koch: “The answer to the problem is, you have to go after those in the Hasidic community who are engaging in the obstruction of justice and intimidating the victims and their families.

There is a point that seems to be missed and where the problem lies is that to intimidate the victim the victim has to be identified. Herein is the problem. When the press gets involved and the publicity machine churns away the victim winds up being identified. Here is where the secondary damage begins against the victim. It can be harassment or it can be the destruction of the victims and their family’s shidduch prospects.

One can't haul a shadchin off to court for not recommending a person for a shidduch because of this form of blemish. Same thing with a neighbor who decides not to speak to someone because of the perceived damage caused to the community or sect.

Like it or not, this is a very tight knit community and it needs to be factored in to make sure the perp gets punished without destroying the victim as well. As the expression goes "Don't throw out the baby with the bathwater."

Haredi or not, here I come

Warning: this is pure speculation.

Is it possible that they have got some juicy, blackmailable piece of info on the D.A.? Hynes' behavior and statements defy the most basic logic. It's happened before where controversial and contradictory decisions have been made by people in high places based on the hidden arm-twisting that the public never sees. Maybe he has no choice (in his eyes).

Truth

Warning: this is pure speculation.

Posted by: Haredi or not, here I come | May 17, 2012 at 12:06 PM

How true!

Proton Soup

One can't haul a shadchin off to court for not recommending a person for a shidduch because of this form of blemish. Same thing with a neighbor who decides not to speak to someone because of the perceived damage caused to the community or sect.

Like it or not, this is a very tight knit community and it needs to be factored in to make sure the perp gets punished without destroying the victim as well. As the expression goes "Don't throw out the baby with the bathwater."

Posted by: LikeItIs | May 17, 2012 at 09:44 AM

i hear RICO allows quite a bit of latitude.

Gevezener Chusid

LikeItIs makes a very valuable point. These gangsters would stop at nothing and there will be no way to prosecute them. Just maybe Hynes is doing right by the victims.

I don't know. But neither do y'all.

LikeItIs

I hear RICO allows quite a bit of latitude.

Posted by: Proton Soup | May 17, 2012 at 01:09 PM

The Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act, commonly referred to as the RICO Act or simply RICO, is a United States federal law that provides for extended criminal penalties and a civil cause of action for acts performed as part of an ongoing criminal organization. The RICO Act focuses specifically on racketeering, and it allows for the leaders of a syndicate to be tried for the crimes which they ordered others to do or assisted them, closing a perceived loophole that allowed someone who told a man to, for example, murder, to be exempt from the trial because they did not actually do it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racketeer_Influenced_and_Corrupt_Organizations_Act

Just what does that have to do with shiduch prospects and friendliness of neighbors and community acceptance?

flailed

Yasher Ko(a)ch!

Einsmann

Just what does that have to do with shiduch prospects and friendliness of neighbors and community acceptance?

It's not about that at all. It's saying these people are criminals who need to feel the sharp edge of the law. And by that I mean U.S. law.

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