Video: Neturei Karta Leader Chants "Allah Akbar" At Islamist Gathering
Speaking in Britain last week at at a gathering in celebration of Israeli Islamist cleric Raed Sallah's courtroom victory blocking his pending deportation from Britain, Neturei Karta leader Rabbi Meir Hirsch said that Zionists are not Jews and that Zionists have no rights to any part of the land of Israel. He also called Jerusalem "Al-Qoods" and closed his speech by chanting "Allah Akbar!" several times.
This guy is brain damaged he speaks hebrew the language of his enemy the zionists whom he hates with a passion how scitzoid can you be unbeleivable.
Posted by: jancsibacsi | April 25, 2012 at 12:56 PM
These people are pure garbage. They literally serve no earthly purpose. As far as I'm concerned, they've sacrificed their basic human rights. If a sniper were to take out this unmitigated piece of drek, he'd be doing the world a favor.
Posted by: Jeff | April 25, 2012 at 01:02 PM
The problem with his speech that he believes or people might get from it that being Anti Zionist is automatically pro-Palestinian and that is false.
According to the Torah and how almost all previous gedolim held that Jews are not allowed to have its own state before the coming of Moshiach.We have nothing in common with anyone who is out to kill Jews.
Anti Zionism anti Israel does not mean sympathy for the Palestinian people.
Posted by: Deremes | April 25, 2012 at 01:19 PM
Well,isn't god great?
Posted by: Jake | April 25, 2012 at 01:24 PM
Posted by: Deremes | April 25, 2012 at 01:19 PM
Your world, your way of life, your heilige Reb Yoilish - they all gave birth to these freaks. You'll never understand that.
Posted by: Jeff | April 25, 2012 at 01:28 PM
Message to Neturei Karta:
Israel exists-get the fuck over it!
Sit with the enemy of your people and encourage their violence toward your people, then YOU are the enemy as well.
May the government of Israel expell all of you to the desert. May they seize all of your property and possessions.
Posted by: Alter Kocker | April 25, 2012 at 01:34 PM
Ok, you convinced me, the Neturei Karta are not Jews as we know it. they are Arabs dressed as Hasidim.
Posted by: Moe | April 25, 2012 at 01:47 PM
I'm just going to throw this thought out, let's see what you guys have to say:
It's hard for me to fathom that these NK people really hate Jews. Where did this come from? Unless there is something here that the human mind cannot fathom, it seems to me that these NK people have such deep hatred for the Zionist idea (as per their ideology), that they simply can't see clearly that their actions have crosses many red lines. Their hatred has blinded them to such an extent that they do not see that at this point, teaming up with Iran and the PLO and screaming Allah Akhbar is akin to calling for the murder of Jews the world over, INCLUDING themselves!! They have become mentally insane.
So here's the thought: Could it be that the Shmarya and many others on this site are doing the same thing vis a vis the haredim? Could their blind hatred of haredim pushed them to do things that an otherwise sane person would never do?
Think about the hatred of Shmarya for the haredim, and the hatred of NK for Zionism. They both have legitimate grievances. But have they both crossed red lines. Or have they both NOT crossed red lines.
NK says Allah Akhbar. Posters on this site have called for haredim to be shipped back to Poland. What is the difference.
NK says to dismantle the Zionist state (peacefully). Shmarya and his followers have called for the dismantling of haredi Judaism. What is the difference.
NK has found many legitimate faults with Zionism. Shmarya has found many legitimate faults with haredim. What is the difference?
Just putting the thought out there. I would like to hear your thoughts on this.
Posted by: Lubavitchers are Christians | April 25, 2012 at 01:47 PM
Oh, and one more thing:
NK loves media attention. So does Shmarya. What's the difference?
Posted by: Lubavitchers are Christians | April 25, 2012 at 01:48 PM
The real garbage are the pork eaters and sabbath violators. If every street were closed shabbos there would be no arab terrorism. These morons like Barak and bird brain Peres are the real culprits. They gave the PLO fifty thousand guns so now they shoot Jews instead of throwing stones.
Posted by: heshyfriedman | April 25, 2012 at 01:50 PM
May the government of Israel expell all of you to the desert. May they seize all of your property and possessions.
Posted by: Alter Kocker | April 25, 2012 at 01:34 PM
Amen.
Posted by: Jeff | April 25, 2012 at 01:51 PM
Neturai Karta:
"We hereby declare that the Zionists do not represent the Jewish people, that they do not belong to the Jewish people, and that they are not acting on behalf of the Jewish people."
Shmarya and Failed Messiah:
"The haredim do not represent us, the true Jews. The haredim are not real Jews. The haredim are not practicing real Judaism."
Every word this evil man said about Zionists, Shmarya and his hasidim have said about haredim.
No difference there.
Posted by: Lubavitchers are Christians | April 25, 2012 at 01:53 PM
Deremes-Stop fantasizin messhiaH WILL NEVER EVER COME ITS ALL MAKE BELEIVE YOU CANT BE SERIOUS YOU THINK RATIONAL PEOPLE OR STUPID,DONT INSULT PEOPLES INTELLIGENCE ONLY THE HASSIDIM CAN BE THIS MINDLESS.
Posted by: jancsibacsi | April 25, 2012 at 01:56 PM
Posted by: Lubavitchers are Christians | April 25, 2012 at 01:53 PM
Imbecile.
Posted by: Jeff | April 25, 2012 at 01:58 PM
The netura carta is only justifying the cause of the palestinians.They never supported their means of terrorisem to obtain their goals.
Think of the netura carta as a political movement with extreme views similar to the extreme religious zionist right.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion.
Posted by: fg | April 25, 2012 at 02:01 PM
Lubavitchers are Christians-i THINK YOU CROSSED THE RED LINE BY COMPARING SHAMRYA TO THOSE LUNATICS SHAMRYA JUST WRITE WHAT IS TRUE ABOUT SOME OF THE HAREIDIM HE DOESNT SPEW HATRED YOU ARE DEAD WRONG IN THAT.
Posted by: jancsibacsi | April 25, 2012 at 02:02 PM
jancsibacsi-
One question,you daven everyday?
Posted by: Deremes | April 25, 2012 at 02:03 PM
Everyone is entitled to their opinion
No, they are not.
Posted by: Jeff | April 25, 2012 at 02:03 PM
Lubavitchers are Christians:
You've fallen into the trap of two trivial fallacies. The first is false analogy. NK is not analogous to Shmarya's website. The parallels that you draw are not substantive.
Similarity in rhetoric does not mean that one can be correct and the other incorrect. The form of the statements doesn't influence their veracity.
The second is false dilemma. It isn't necessary to condemn Shmarya and some of the posters here if one feels the need to condemn NK. Since the analogy is false, there is no logical necessity to make them equal in that way.
Posted by: Yaakov | April 25, 2012 at 02:09 PM
Posted by: Yaakov | April 25, 2012 at 02:09 PM
You really think he understands that?
Posted by: Jeff | April 25, 2012 at 02:12 PM
jancsibacsi-
One question,you daven everyday?
Posted by: Deremes | April 25, 2012 at 02:03 PM
I do. I pray every day that you'll go away - yet here you are.
More proof that prayer doesn't work.
Posted by: Jeff | April 25, 2012 at 02:13 PM
Posted by: Lubavitchers are Christians | April 25, 2012 at 01:53 PM
Please provide verified quotes wherein Shmarya has called for haredi judaism to be dismantled.
I don't ever recall seeing one.
Posted by: SkepticalYid | April 25, 2012 at 02:14 PM
Jews for Islam
They should rename themselves. Not as catchy as Jews for Jesus but hey, why not?
Posted by: ML | April 25, 2012 at 02:15 PM
Deremes-Davening is a feel good thing that has nothing to do with reality so there you have youre answer,in my humble oppinion when youre programmned in a certain way as a child and you live among yiddin who are like minded it becomes robotosized exersize.
Posted by: jancsibacsi | April 25, 2012 at 02:17 PM
Deremes-Davening is a feel good thing that has nothing to do with reality so there you have youre answer,in my humble oppinion when youre programmned in a certain way as a child and you live among yiddin who are like minded it becomes robotosized exersize.
Posted by: jancsibacsi | April 25, 2012 at 02:17 PM
Please provide verified quotes wherein Shmarya has called for haredi judaism to be dismantled.
I don't ever recall seeing one.
Posted by: SkepticalYid | April 25, 2012 at 02:14 PM
I say it all the time. I'll say it again here, so there'll be no confusion - Haredism (I won't dignify it by calling it "Judaism") needs to be eradicated. The Haredi subculture needs to be dismantled.
Posted by: Jeff | April 25, 2012 at 02:18 PM
It's not all about you, Jeff ;-P
I found it quite interesting that the NK head spoke in Hebrew. I didn't realize they would speak in Loishon Koidesh.
Posted by: SkepticalYid | April 25, 2012 at 02:20 PM
Its important to know that "Jeff" has more then once called for the KILLING of Haredi Jews.
Posted by: Deremes | April 25, 2012 at 02:28 PM
I used to think NK were just a fringe group. But my visits to Israel the last 30 years has shown they are our front line defense. A secular government bent on destroying chareidi Judaism. We need to fight back on all fronts. We need to bring the Barak and perezes to their knees and force them to stop hurting authentic Judaism which is chareidi Judaism. All others are watered down forms of Judaism. NK kol hakovad to you guys. The secular enemy is the danger not Irans empty threats. It was the original neturei karta founded by Rabbi Amrom Blau that closed the streets in meah shearim on shabbos as he sacraficed his life for G-d. Without him the streets would still be open on shabbos. These are out heros. Let's unite and fight. The enemy comes in sheepskin. Their names are Olmart,Barak,peres,and all the other bareheaded imbociles.
Posted by: heshyfriedman | April 25, 2012 at 02:30 PM
SkepticalYid- I have the utmost respect for jeff he is saying something very very deep i find myself agreeing with him tottaly.
Posted by: jancsibacsi | April 25, 2012 at 02:31 PM
Its important to know that "Jeff" has more then once called for the KILLING of Haredi Jews.
Posted by: Deremes | April 25, 2012 at 02:28 PM
1. Not all of them; just the extremists. I've called for the disenfranchisement of the rest of you.
2. Jeff is my real name. You don't need to put it in quotation marks.
Posted by: Jeff | April 25, 2012 at 02:32 PM
I found it quite interesting that the NK head spoke in Hebrew. I didn't realize they would speak in Loishon Koidesh.
Posted by: SkepticalYid | April 25, 2012 at 02:20 PM
Hey, they're doing God's work!
Posted by: Jeff | April 25, 2012 at 02:33 PM
We need to bring the Barak and perezes to their knees and force them to stop hurting authentic Judaism which is chareidi Judaism.
The only thing "authentic" about you is your psychosis - but you're such a hateful piece of excrement that I find it impossible to feel compassion. Every moment you draw breath is an offense against God and humanity.
And, you complete fucking moron - it's the representatives of the Israeli government who have been supporting your community for decades. My God, you can't even get that one right.
Stupid and psychotic - always a winning combination.
Posted by: Jeff | April 25, 2012 at 02:36 PM
I wish "Jeff" would pull the cock out of his mouth long enough to to pontificate coherently.
Posted by: JesusWasANigger | April 25, 2012 at 02:47 PM
Isn't there such a thing in Israel as high treason?I mean,the U.S. will put Adam Gadahn rightly in jail for ages when they catch him,because he is an American who became an Al Qaeda spokesman.Every country does the same(see the Brits after ww2 with Lord Haw Haw);I wonder why Israelis are so soft with these traitors!
Posted by: Abu Jihad Schneerson | April 25, 2012 at 02:49 PM
Posted by: Yaakov | April 25, 2012 at 02:09 PM
Yaakov,
I believe that Jeff's comments here and other places on this website are a symptom of the issues that I talk about.
The analogy may be closer to the truth than you realize. Yes, there are subtle differences, but they are minor. Calling for eradication on Monday, and calling for eradication on Tuesday are different....... but are they really different????
Posted by: Lubavitchers are Christians | April 25, 2012 at 02:52 PM
heshyfriedman -Destroying hareidi judaism hahahaha arent there enough hareidim in usa to sustain their existance forever?youre the stupidist imbacile that ihave ever come across di farshtinkener shwantz.
Posted by: jancsibacsi | April 25, 2012 at 02:54 PM
jeff- I SAID THIS MANY TIMES YOURE THE BEST EVERY WORD YOU WRITE IS TOIRAT EMES:)
Posted by: jancsibacsi | April 25, 2012 at 02:56 PM
Everyone is entitled to their opinion
No, they are not.
Posted by: Jeff | April 25, 2012 at 02:03 PM
jeff of course they can they are nuts ir worse but they can have a n opinion
where does this hate come from maybe unintentional but from satmar.
if yolie can blame or say the cause of the holocaust was Zionist then what this guys are doing are mild by comparison
Posted by: seymour | April 25, 2012 at 03:05 PM
while there is nothing halakhically wrong in saying allahu akbar, it is very wrong to stand behing a banner that glorifies Raed Saleh, not known for his love of jews or to pray for the palestinian flag to be raised, instead of praying for "et tzemakh dovid avdekhobunch of stupid martians."
are they jews?
Posted by: Yosef ben Matitya | April 25, 2012 at 03:07 PM
I wish "Jeff" would pull the cock out of his mouth long enough to to pontificate coherently.
Posted by: JesusWasANigger | April 25, 2012 at 02:47 PM
And I think Shmarya should ban you for using an obscene and offensive pseudonym - but we get so little of what we want in life.
Posted by: Jeff | April 25, 2012 at 03:07 PM
Jancsibacsi: We need to introduce you to Mr. Period, Mr. Comma, Ms. Semi-colon, and most importantly, Rabbi Caps Lock (off).
Reb Yaakov: Is Shmarya paying you by the word, the paragraph, or simply per-post? Where do you find the time to respond in detail, multiple times, to so many of the FM posts? I don't need to know the firm, just the industry, e.g., high fashion, sofer, Medicine, local govt, etc.
Posted by: BibleBeltJew | April 25, 2012 at 03:11 PM
jeff- I SAID THIS MANY TIMES YOURE THE BEST EVERY WORD YOU WRITE IS TOIRAT EMES:)
Posted by: jancsibacsi | April 25, 2012 at 02:56 PM
Thanks, Jan. That's very kind.
Posted by: Jeff | April 25, 2012 at 03:19 PM
Jancsibacsi: We need to introduce you to Mr. Period, Mr. Comma, Ms. Semi-colon, and most importantly, Rabbi Caps Lock (off).
Posted by: BibleBeltJew | April 25, 2012 at 03:11 PM
Jan wasn't born in this country, BBJ. Meanwhile, the Haredim have been here for generations. What's their excuse?
Reb Yaakov: Is Shmarya paying you by the word, the paragraph, or simply per-post? Where do you find the time to respond in detail, multiple times, to so many of the FM posts? I don't need to know the firm, just the industry, e.g., high fashion, sofer, Medicine, local govt, etc.
Yaakov's contributions here are highly valued.
Posted by: Jeff | April 25, 2012 at 03:23 PM
BibleBeltJew- if you dont like the way i write then dont read it it is as simple as that.
Posted by: jancsibacsi | April 25, 2012 at 03:28 PM
Yaakov is in a business wherein there is a glass door or window behind the computer he used to capture his photo. Through the glass are vehicles .. arriving, departing or parked. Some do enjoy him. I'm not one of them but I'd like to see someone else display their photo here..... if that's really him.......
Posted by: dh | April 25, 2012 at 04:03 PM
Oh, and Jeff, we heart u.
Posted by: dh | April 25, 2012 at 04:05 PM
for the record, i appreciate yaakovs and jeffs posts very much even if i dont always agree, though i usually do. thats not to say that i dont also appreciate many others, but they have been singled out by some that feel differently so i chimed in.
and jancs, dont let these haters get to you. you are a clear thinker and always get your point across even if your adopted language skills arent perfect. i love how you seem to rile "them" up like no one else.
on the topic, i understand the NK morons position on israel even if i consider him a fool for having it. but does he know what a pandering jackass he looks like when he goes against everything holy to him in judaism by declaring "allahu akbar" ?
Posted by: ah-pee-chorus | April 25, 2012 at 04:36 PM
dh, nicely stated. Now gird your loins for the onslaught from the usual suspects (Rosenberg's sycophants, M.O. chumrah-avoiding apologists, self-haters, wordy nudniks (sp?), intermarrieds, wanna-be foreskin re-attachers, damn Yankees, and the grammatically challenged). Roll Tide.
Posted by: BibleBeltJew | April 25, 2012 at 04:44 PM
dh:
That's the door of my office outside of which there is a digital sign for the research group that occupies the labs across the hall.
I don't understand your interpretation of the background, but in any case it's wildly confused. Yes, that's me, why on earth wouldn't it be?
Posted by: Yaakov | April 25, 2012 at 04:50 PM
A lot of people are "losing it" at the moment. NK people saying that Zionists are not Jews. Zionists saying that Neturei Karta people aren't jews.
Troubled times...
Posted by: Adam Neira | April 25, 2012 at 04:53 PM
Posted by: BibleBeltJew | April 25, 2012 at 04:44 PM
BBJ, I understand a Liberal was spotted in your neck of the woods. If you run now, you may be able to catch him in time to tar and feather him before Shabbos.
Posted by: Jeff | April 25, 2012 at 05:03 PM
Jeff, dang funny! Both your comment and the ludicrousness of their being a libtard within a hundred miles of me. Your comment is also pithy, as we DO tend to tar n feather the ones we catch as we want to save our buckshot for the revenuers. Roll damn Tide.
Posted by: BibleBeltJew | April 25, 2012 at 05:16 PM
BibleBeltJew--, wanna-be foreskin re-attachers,
Thats a good one hahaha
Posted by: jancsibacsi | April 25, 2012 at 05:18 PM
ah-pee-chorus-Thanks amillion for youre kind words, i really appreciate it
Posted by: jancsibacsi | April 25, 2012 at 05:22 PM
Janc, if it'd make my zubi bigger I'd call my mohel and have mine re-attached.
Reb Yaakov: If that is indeed your pic then you've got a set of beitzim barzel.
All: It is strangely refreshing to not hear "War [blank] Eagle!" on this site, which is a testament to the class, intelligence and good taste of Reb Shmarya's readers. Kol haKovod, and Roll Tide.
Posted by: BibleBeltJew | April 25, 2012 at 05:36 PM
jancsibacsi,of course I am on your side too!Screw mr know-all!
Posted by: Abu Jihad Schneerson | April 25, 2012 at 05:37 PM
Bible Belt Jew:
I don't follow you. What about the picture requires that?
Posted by: Yaakov | April 25, 2012 at 05:41 PM
Oh, Yaakov, sorry. We thought it looked like cars outside the glass. And as to the rest, ponder a sense of humor, which is just subsequent to humility in the dictionary.
Posted by: dh | April 25, 2012 at 05:49 PM
Abu -kosz nem felek en senkitol itten aki elenem van levannak csinalva,translation thanks everyone for their support
Posted by: jancsibacsi | April 25, 2012 at 05:50 PM
dh:
My sense of humor is generally considered quite good. Since you attack me constantly and for no reason I can discern, why would I suddenly assume you were joking with me?
I do get that you are annoyed by my style, but then, I am annoyed by yours. The difference is I don't bother you about it.
Posted by: Yaakov | April 25, 2012 at 05:54 PM
are you permitted to say we pray to allah ?
where's the psak din ? from the mufti ?
Posted by: yitzhak moshe | April 25, 2012 at 06:00 PM
We pray three times a day for the fall of the secular,chareidi hating Israeli government to fall if you are an orthodox Jew. Now if their kids become baalei tsuvah kol hakovad. If not we hope they join sharon in his sleeping coma so that we authentic Jews can expand our potentiality in serving the Creator. When we take over all colleges will become yeshivas. All non kosher establishments will become very kosher. All traffic other than hatzolah will stop on Shabbos. All Jewish kids will be in a real chareidi yeshiva. All night clubs and bars will be shut down. All television stations will feature Exclusivly Torah lectures. Women who owned immoral cloths like pants will be given cash to bring it for a public burning. All non Torah books will be banned as well. Libraries will have all secular books burnth as well and replace with Torah reading material. This is my dream of Israel one day very soon.
Posted by: heshyfriedman | April 25, 2012 at 06:06 PM
The truth is, I personally don't have a problem with acknowledging that لله is an Arabic name for the God of the Torah. Particularly if it can help moderates from both groups find common ground.
The problem here is context. This person is doing damage, but he does say that he considers Zionists not to be Jews, so, I suppose he's set himself up as a rodef.
What a foolish thing these people do.
Posted by: Yaakov | April 25, 2012 at 06:06 PM
heshyfriedman-Look in the mirror and you will find the true hater,as the saying goes it takes one to know one,this is the reaon why you cannot or incapable of thinking rationally youre intense hate overpowers youre puny brain
Posted by: jancsibacsi | April 25, 2012 at 06:19 PM
During the war England had Lord Haw Haw broadcasting on behalf of the Nazis from Berlin.
Several American women, all who were called Tokyo Rose, did the same on behalf of the Japanese. They broadcast to American troops in the Pacific.
As soon as their respective governments could catch them they were punished.
But Israel just tolerates these NK traitors to Israel and to the Jewish people while they do their damnest to support those who would annihilate us.
Question: Is Meir Hirsch related to Moshe Hirsch?
I not only knew Moshe Hirsch but stayed in his home in Mea Shaarim my first night in Israel in 1969. He was the one who placed me in Torah Or with R. Scheinberg.
He introduced me to Amram Blau and the rest of the NK khevra in Mea Shaarim.
To his credit I will say that he warned me to have nothing to do with NK or any politics. " Just sit and learn; that is why you came here," was his advice which I followed.
Posted by: Litvish | April 25, 2012 at 06:19 PM
We pray three times a day for the fall of the secular,chareidi hating Israeli government to fall if you are an orthodox Jew.
That would be the government that exempts Haredim from military service and pays them not to work?
Posted by: Jeff | April 25, 2012 at 06:35 PM
The NK ought to convert to Islam; they would make wonderful Al Qaeda terrorists.
Posted by: Chicago Sam | April 25, 2012 at 06:46 PM
HeshyFriedman
I pray daily: I pray that the likes of you and your ilk are put to forced labour in Israel. I pray that the government wakes up and discovers that welfare sucking scum such as yourself and your ilk are not jews at all and are merely there for the handout so that you can sit in yeshiva all day or Kollel and drink coffee, smoke, fart and knock-up your waste of skin females. I pray that the army takes all of you in and when it discovers that you really don't want to serve, they court-martial all of you and then strip your citizenship and toss you into the desert. I pray that your children are taken from you and de-programmed to be useful. I pray that your children learn secular subjects, discover the lies and deceit that your cult has imposed on them and the tells you where to stick the "derech". I pray that the little boys that you and your ilk have buggered come back and prosecute you to the fullest extent of the law and in doing so "out" the lot of you.
But you fucks think you have the absolute franchise on Hashem-wonder who is right?
Posted by: Alter Kocker | April 25, 2012 at 06:49 PM
I pray that your children learn secular subjects, discover the lies and deceit that your cult has imposed on them and the tells you where to stick the "derech".
Oh, so do I. I would LOVE to see an entire generation of their young people rebel.
Posted by: Jeff | April 25, 2012 at 06:52 PM
I once chanted Allah Snackbar once and it was greeted with sandwiches for all.
Posted by: western jew | April 25, 2012 at 06:54 PM
Re: heshyfriedman
Please post the following whenever this pervert comments. It was written by Shmarya on 11 October, 2011.
"We know that Heshy Friedman from the old Heshy's House blog is a JPAC leader. The rest remain anonymous, along with the Mea Shearim rabbis it claims endorse its actions.
I think it's time to out every one of these people."
http://failedmessiah.typepad.com/failed_messiahcom/2011/10/haredi-fringe-group-claims-molestation-of-boys-has-surged-since-same-sex-marriage-bill-passed-in-ny-345.html
Posted by: Litvish | April 25, 2012 at 07:33 PM
To jancsibasci:
You really need to improve your command of the English language. That includes following the basic rules of grammar, which you have avoided doing in all of your posts. I agree with what you are saying in substance, but please do improve your grammar.
Posted by: anonymous | April 25, 2012 at 07:39 PM
anonymous-Ok tell me if this is an improvement,kish mine tohes?
Posted by: jancsibacsi | April 25, 2012 at 07:56 PM
Hahahahahahaha. Good one.
Posted by: dh | April 25, 2012 at 08:15 PM
These guys and the Westboro Baptist church should start a sitcom of some kind. Or...I dunno, what's a term for "situation tragedy"?
Posted by: David Bar-Magen | April 25, 2012 at 09:16 PM
This man and Naturei Karta movement, I don't know whether to be saddened, or enraged. He may have been born of the covenant but no longer has a jewish heart. My limited knowledge of Torah tells me his warped interpretations are against the divine deeds to the land. Such an evil, divisive movement within Judaism combined with the designs of a modern day Haman in Iran tell me that things are reaching a Crescendo over the land. May Hashem forgive this man and put him in his right mind.Naturei has caused irreparable harm to the solidarity of Jews concerning Eretz Yisrael.
Posted by: Zionist Goy | April 25, 2012 at 09:19 PM
Jancs: Well done! Your next task is to teach Hasidim the art of critical thinking - how much time do you need? I can give you til Chodesh Elul if that helps.
Posted by: BibleBeltJew | April 25, 2012 at 09:22 PM
These NK guys are absolutely suicidal. After they have fulfilled their purpose as "useful idiots", do you think the Palestinians will give them 2 cents/ 2 dinars subsidies? They'll be lucky if they're not massacred. One thing's for sure, they'll be a lot thinner. But, thank God, the Palestinians will never win.
Posted by: Dave | April 25, 2012 at 09:25 PM
Alter kocker
Which shul do you pray in three times a day. My prayer book reads that all the heretics should go lost swiftly. Kol hamenim keregah yoivaydu. The usless Israelis are not the one in kollel but the ones sitting and downing coffee and smoking on the street cafes. The heros are the frum yidden who protest for G-ds honor like our forefathers did. They destroyed the pagan idols and stood up to pork eaters. They were the maccabees. Long live the struggle. Soon Israel will be Chiloni secular free.
Posted by: heshyfriedman | April 25, 2012 at 09:27 PM
To Jeff
The vast majority of rebels are from secular homes becoming chareidi.
Posted by: heshyfriedman | April 25, 2012 at 09:33 PM
So ungrateful. They'll never be happy wherever they are. They should just get over themselves and realize it's game over for their twisted mindset and behavior.
I thought a key concept in the Torah is being grateful and subservient to the country and government you live with. I thought a key concept in the Torah is achdus, standing with fellow Jews and fighting for what's right. Theirs is a twisted version that has been corrupted by the need for unlimited power and their lust for it. They won't be happy unless Israel completely bows down to their every whim- and every other country, for that matter.
Posted by: Mike | April 25, 2012 at 09:37 PM
Dear Heshy;
I am not a pork eater. I have not missed t'fila b'tzibur in 47 years, nor has a day passed without Torah learning since the early 1960's. I love the State of Israel. One of my children, shomer Torah and Mitzvot, recently decided to make Aliya. You are a sick puppy. Praying for the elected heads of our Medina to join Ariel Sharon in a coma!
I pray for Israel, too! Every Shabbat, I pray for its continued success. Incorporated in the prayer, is the request that its leadership follows the path of Torah, not that G-d forbid, someone has a stroke.
I cannot fathom your desire that libraries banish their secular books. I cannot fathom your desire that all children receive a Haredi education. If that were the case, then your computer, which you use so often, would not exist. You would never receive medical help, because there would be no doctors, no dentists. You would live in a tent, because there would be no architects, no engineers, and you would drive a horse, because no one would have onvented the car!
Posted by: chief doofis | April 25, 2012 at 10:24 PM
This is my dream of Israel one day very soon.
Posted by: heshyfriedman | April 25, 2012 at 06:06 PM
I'm new, is this guy seriouse or sarcastic?
Posted by: colonna | April 25, 2012 at 11:04 PM
To chief
Certainly we welcome the secular to remove their pony tails and grow peyos. By all means. But the vicious atheistic government that allows gay parades is better off in a coma lIke sharon.
Posted by: heshyfriedman | April 26, 2012 at 12:23 AM
Colonna, heshy is a parody.
Posted by: dh | April 26, 2012 at 01:11 AM
Colonna, heshy is a parody.
Posted by: dh | April 26, 2012 at 01:11 AM
No, he is NOT a parody.
He's a real, very disgusting, haredi who has been expressing these abhorrent views for years with – he claims – the blessings of rabbis connected to Eidah Charedis in Jerusalem.
Posted by: Shmarya | April 26, 2012 at 01:15 AM
@ Shmarya:
I had HOPED he was a parody, I was just too stunned to believe that someone that moronic could actually have existed.
@ heshyfriedman:
You think the NK are like the Maccabees? Are you even serious? The NK stand against everything that is real Torah Judaism. They aren't fighting for the Torah, they're fighting for themselves. The NK have literally abandoned the rest of the Jewish people to stand together with the people who would destory us. They aren't the Maccabees of our time, they are the Greeks, the people who sought to destroy us.
Posted by: Mike | April 26, 2012 at 01:27 AM
I still believe heshyfriedman is a parody!He is too extreme in what he says to sound believable.
Posted by: Abu Jihad Schneerson | April 26, 2012 at 03:32 AM
heshyfriedman-Di kenst ois vishen daynem tohes mit dayn toireh,di farrikter behayme,translation you can wipe youre behind with youre kind of toireh
Posted by: jancsibacsi | April 26, 2012 at 05:22 AM
Heshy is psychotic, probably schizophrenic. I should feel compassion, but he's such an inexpressible piece of garbage that I find I can't.
Posted by: Jeff | April 26, 2012 at 05:32 AM
Ban me
Posted by: heshyfriedman | April 26, 2012 at 06:15 AM
Jeff
I am not psychotic. My opinion are exactly like every authentic Rabbi. I don't know if your reform or modern ortho or an ex orthodox individual. My views is wjat my rabbis have thought me. I oppose abortions on demand,atheism,homos,feminism,gun control,and so on. We here in Brooklyn defeated two liberal jews one was weprin the other Fidler. We supported Turner and Stoborin. We put our vote where our mouth is. In fact the only district where Cuomo lost was the boro park one. Don't under estimate us chareidim. Chareidim united will never be defeated.
Posted by: heshyfriedman | April 26, 2012 at 06:31 AM
Why don't people ignore Heshy? He has nothing original to say, and just wants to get us riled up. Apparently, he has succeeded.
As for NK, they are the Kapos to Afterdinnerjob, the wannabe Hitler of Iran. They should move there and be dhimmis, and leave the rest of us alone. Like Heshy they are attention-mongers and the media loves them for the man-bites-dog aspect of Jews hating their own state.
Posted by: Yochanan Lavie | April 26, 2012 at 06:40 AM
heshyfriedman--Youre rabbis are a bunch of self agrandizing assholes, they are immitating the ones who really suffered prewar those days they lived in poverty not in luxury ,but youre too thick to see that
Posted by: jancsibacsi | April 26, 2012 at 07:39 AM
heshyfriedman-- You would be infinitly better of caring about youre own hassidim rabbi molesters then about homos or athism di farriker shoite.
Posted by: jancsibacsi | April 26, 2012 at 07:41 AM
I do. I pray every day that you'll go away - yet here you are.
More proof that prayer doesn't work.
Posted by: Jeff | April 25, 2012 at 02:13 PM
Irony/humor disregarded, this is a very simplistic - nay, childish - approach to prayer, assuming that everyone's every request is instantly agreed to
Posted by: MoishieCohen | April 26, 2012 at 07:46 AM
We put our vote where our mouth is.
It's a tragedy these people are allowed to vote. We need mandatory testing for intelligence, sanity and developmental level as a prerequisite for voting (and breeding).
Posted by: Jeff | April 26, 2012 at 07:47 AM
I heard that a lot of these NK-nutjobs get paid handsomely for their PR efforts...something like $50k p.a.
Anyone care to corroborate?
NOTE: This is NOT a justification or excuse!
Posted by: MoishieCohen | April 26, 2012 at 07:49 AM
Irony/humor disregarded, this is a very simplistic - nay, childish - approach to prayer, assuming that everyone's every request is instantly agreed to
Posted by: MoishieCohen | April 26, 2012 at 07:46 AM
Of course - and I imagine the fact that people pray every day for years, for things they need desperately, yet walk away empty handed and with horribly and irreparably broken lives, represents a childish expectancy on their part for instant gratification as well - or, of course, they didn't really believe.
Posted by: Jeff | April 26, 2012 at 08:46 AM