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April 12, 2012


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Surprised you missed this one: http://forward.com/articles/154828/former-ramaz-nurse-can-sue-under-whistleblower-law/



He repeatedly lied. That's why he's banned.

You don't have free access to here to lie.


Child Abuse in the Charedi community is an a mostimportant discussion. Please do not reduce it to name calling and banning. Let's instead focus on where we have to go and what has to be done to achieve it. I believe that we've come a long way, thanks to efforts such as Failed Messiah. I further believe that the reporting must continue and that we will ultimately get there. The more intensive the effort to direct public attention on Charedi child sexual abuse will bring huge results. Please Shmarya, you are doing great work. Do not demean it with petty insults and banning. Failed Messiah is truly poised to help the Charedi community even if it resists.



1. I did NOT copy the article from VIN. So you have lied again.

2. Nothing changed in the law. It is exactly the same now as it was 6 months ago.

3. The problem is enforcement, which is wholly lacking.

4. And you are banned.

chaim moscowitz

Yes you are correct. My original comment was poorly worded and clearly implied I was referring to you not giving VIN credit. However this was not my intention. My intention was to state you copied the article from VIN but only parts of it. You purposely left out JBAC.
Now you threaten me with a ban? And delete my comments? Not much of a threat but then what else do you have? Keep me out of your mothers basement where you live?



Anyone can read your previous comment and see you're lying.

Do it again and I'll delete your comments and ban you.

chaim moscowitz

Nebach Shmarya. Resorting to name calling. So low. So low. I was referring to JBAC and its VP Perry Schafler who were responsible for the change. Not VIN.


In the last line of the first paragraph of my prior comment, add the words "food stamps" before "Medicaid".


ABC: It's a cute article but we are talking chump change here.

If you are really worried about big government spending, go here:


63.8% of the residents of Kiryas Joel are reported to be living in poverty vs. 14.2% for New York State, 2.1% in Scarsdale (see Scardale page at the web site), a favorite of the Wall St. set and 39.9% in East St. Louis, IL, a poor black community near St.Louis, MO. KJ's population grew by 53.6% from 2000 to 2010 vs 2.1% for NY State as a whole. KJ is virtually all white and all Hasidic. KJ is going to be in a world of hurt if Congressman Pat Ryan (supported by Mitt Romney) is able to convert the food stamp and Medicaid programs to block grant programs from entitlements in 2013. Consistent with its poverty status, KJ is also a big consumer of Medicaid and Section 8 housing vouchers per capita.

Poverty is also big in the Hasidic communities of New Square and Monsey, but not quite as bad as in KJ. You can get specific numbers for these towns from the same US census web site.



yechi ben levitas

what about jewish doctors with perverted child molestation tendancies. Who is responsible for reporting on medical proff, betraying their.....we heal etc oath.?


The author of this government document is a bigot. He refers to parochial, that is, Catholic schools, only. Since requested clarifications came from the Jewish community, if he were not an anti-Catholic bigot he would have said "all private schools,' 'religious schools' and definitely would have said 'yeshivas.' The depth of the political fear of the haredi rabbis is staggering.


Fine, you can post an entire library of NY statutes and the bottom line is what you said in your comment's last sentence..."Brooklyn's DA Charles Hynes doesn't have the balls to do it."

That is the real problem.


Nothing will change


Haredi omerta will still prevail. In this regard these people are like old-style old-country Sicilians - they seem to value their cohesiveness and insularity above all else, morals be damned.. What's needed perhaps is a special prosecutor not beholden to them for his political survival - and for their community to see a row of them in the dock for their outrageous behavior - and for their schools to be at least as closely regulated as secular private schools.


This is good but will still only work if those involved have some respect for the law.

They don't, and they will keep a closed shop, as usual.

There will however be rare occassions when those involved in cover-ups will be caught and prosecuted.

Steven W

Wow. The yeshivas are moving well into the 1990s


You copy the article from VIN and don't have the professionalism to give credit where credit is due. Bad journalism at its best.

Posted by: chaim moscowitz | April 12, 2012 at 06:00 PM


1. The "article" you mention is a GOVERNMENT DOCUMENT. It is NOT something VIN wrote.

2. I credit VIN and link to VIN for the Dov Hikind reference at the bottom of my post.

3. The remainder of the words are completely my own.

Perhaps if you weren't an idiot, you would have noticed all this.

chaim moscowitz

You copy the article from VIN and don't have the professionalism to give credit where credit is due. Bad journalism at its best.

Judy Jones

It is sad there even has to be a law requiring anyone to report sex crimes against kids.

It seems pretty simple, if you suspect, have knowledge, or witnessed a child being harmed, dial 911. It is better err on the side of protecting the child.

Judy Jones, SNAP Midwest Associate Director, USA, 636-433-2511
(SNAP, the Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests, is the world's oldest and largest support group for clergy abuse victims.
SNAP was founded in 1988 and has more than 12,000 members. Despite the word "priest" in our title, we have members who were molested by religious figures of all denominations, including nuns, rabbis, bishops, and Protestant ministers and increasingly, victims who were assaulted in a wide range of institutional settings like summer camps, athletic programs, Boy Scouts, etc. Our website is SNAPnetwork.org)


Kudos to the State.
It's decades past time for this.


It's true that yeshivos don't want to fingerprint. But that doesn't make Dov Hikind disingenous to the extreme. He is simply pointing out that now that we will force yeshivos to fingerprint, we should pay for that mandate, because yeshivos don't have extra money sitting around.

He's got a point. In fact, the state should have to fund all programs it mandates of private schools.


The Boro Park NAMBLA chapter will probably appeal.


The Boro Park NAMBLA chapter will probably appeal.


Wonderful and about time

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