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March 15, 2012

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I dont believe it!

To the above poster: are you Jewish? I didn't think so...

final answer

Who cares, Jewish faith is merely a corporation business, they believe in nothing but stereotyping and monopolizing their own religion, they should call it the holier than thou religion, or if you're Messiah would come back today, we would still have a Jew religious zealot Jewish sham, nail his ass to across. The country is a sham so as is the religion. These people have killed more human beings in the name of their fucked up, self- driven beliefs in any wars put together.
I say, let them all fuck prostitutes, at least to be doing something productive that day.


I dont believe it!

He was fired by the way.... This behavior is not accepted anywhere and chabad is no exception.

I dont believe it!

Yes, I know what they are saying. In the beginning, he answers the phone in the room. The receptionist asked him to pay first. He said he will pay after. They go back and forth until he convinces the receptionist that he is a loyal customer, as he comes every week. She agrees to let him pay after. At the end of the video the prostitute tells him that he is amazing, she is tired and she feels intimidated by his chassidic garb. As he gets dressed, she said, "Now we are starting with this religious stuff. With the Tzitzis... Those are tzitzis right?" SHAME!! He was my husbands friend a while back. Hubby is taking this very hard, as he thought he was a straight guy.... I would not categorize all chabad with this fellow. I know them better than any of you :)

audrey

does anyone know what theyre saying in russian at the end of the video...hmmm...feel bad for his wife, she must be devasted unless she already knew....

Shocked

This is old news but it hit me like a bullet.
I know his wife. I met her during my short stint at machon chana (she was engaged to him at that time). A good, kind girl ...though somewhat blindly ("Russian-style") devoted to chabad ideology. She was all about the rebbe, the rebbetsin, the shlichus, mivtsoim and so on. I cant imagine what effect this must have had on her. In fact I have just recently saw their photo in a magazine for Russian Jewish women. A family of 6, "happy to serve as the Rebbe's shlichim in the Altai region". He was happy, allright...I must say I felt a pang of jealousy when I looked at the photo - an obviously happy wife and mother of 4 , a frum, stable home...I, too, could have had all that bliss I thought, had I become frum....

For the record that is not her in bed....

Mike S.

Posted by: Shmaryah,is a dirty self hating nazi bastard | March 15, 2012 at 02:23 PM

ahahahaha,
b/c it is Shmaryah who is responsible here, rather than the whore-patronizing rabbi, right?

"Has anyone thought of the possibility that he may have been forced to do this?" -BeenThereDoneThat

Yeah, it is blackmail now - that's why it's on video. But you've no evidence to suggest that he was 'forced' to do this to avoid being outed for something else.


This video is a LIE. I did not watch it, nor will I but it is clear that it is NOT his natural hair.
Posted by: Maskil

You didn't watch it but your are convinced it is inauthentic. HaShem told you or was it your rebbe?

Ruth

Don't judge the rest of the shluchim or chabad in general for one person's action!

Shmarya

Your heart is misplaced.

If Pat Robertson was videoed having unprotected anal sex with a hooker, you wouldn't be worried about his wife or his kids or grandkids, and you wouldn't be complaining about the people who broke the story.

Again, the rabbi refused to stop calling his operation a Chabad House and he took no steps at repentance.

He was outed by fellow Chabad rabbis, apparently.

And when Krinsky, et al, tried to cover up for him, someone gave the video to me.

I know other shluchim who have problems, who are alcoholic or who had a crisis of faith or who did something else bad.

But they weren't risking the health of their wives and for the most part, they weren't lording over other people. And I don't write about them.

But a shaliach like this or like the mafioso who abuses his employees and tries to scam old ladies, or the ones who try to steal shul buildings, etc. – those I write about.

A guy who has unprotected anal sex with a hooker is a danger to his wife and to any other person he sleeps with or bleeds on. And a guy like that who behaves that way in this day and age probably thinks he's untouchable, that no one can really get him. And he may get off on danger.

That makes him very dangerous for his wife and for any other sexual partners.

Better the embarrassment of having your father's romp with a hooker linked on Failed Messiah than burying your mother.

And one more thought for you.

Chabad insists on metzitzah b'peh. And that means any mohel who has or who will do a bris on this rabbi's sons needs to run to a doctor and get tested for HIV and other blood born diseases.

Not that you'd care, of course.

Crowin' Cock

Waht he did to them was bad. So is what you did. I don't see why you think I'm hareidi. Maybe I just have a heart.

Shmarya

Yes, their are many problems in the frum world such as cover ups, scandals, etc. etc. They still do not justify the pain you have caused this particular family (wife, kids) for no fault of their own. You have basically poured salt into their wounds, and are profiting from their sad situation despite prolonging and accentuating their shame.

Please.

Their husband/father did that to them.

It's his fault. It's his sin. It's his crime.

And in typical haredi fashion, you can't grasp that.

Crowin' Cock

There you go veering off the point again. Every time I bring up the unnecessary pain you have caused the family with this post, you switch the topic to something that has absolutely nothing to do with my point.

Yes, their are many problems in the frum world such as cover ups, scandals, etc. etc. They still do not justify the pain you have caused this particular family (wife, kids) for no fault of their own. You have basically poured salt into their wounds, and are profiting from their sad situation despite prolonging and accentuating their shame.

You're obviously bitter and have a grudge against frum people. That doesn't justify tormenting his innocent wife and kids. Period.

That being said, it's a free country. You have the right to publish whatever you want, just as I have the right to my opinion. You have the freedom of choice to decide between right and wrong. Hopefully, for the sake of his innocent family, you'll make the right decision.

Shmarya

Please.

Do you know how Judaism views a person who covers up crimes and protects criminals but allows more people to be victimized?

Of course you don't.

The Judaism you follow is pagan in the worst sense of the word.

Crowin' Cock

"In this case, how do you think those children would feel about me if I didn't post it and their father got AIDS from the next hooker he slept with, and gave it to their mother?"

I think their mother was well aware of the video before you posted it for the entire world to see.

I'm not trying to defend what he did, it was wrong. I don't give a rat's ass if Chabad tried to cover up the story, I wouldn't expect any group or sect to do otherwise.

Just pointing out that you obviously don't give a hoot about the family and how much you have added to their pain. Obviously, a few measly clicks are more important to you.

You seem to get a kick out of acting as Mr. Self righteous at the expense of others. Do you know how Judaism views one that profits / enjoys that downfall of his brethren?

Shmarya

You're still missing my point. His family didn't deserve to have the whole world see their dad "in action". Whether or not him or butman or krinsky and company did anything wrong.

Imagine it was you dad in the film and someone posted it for the frum world to see. How do you think you'd feel towards the guy that posted it?

Posted by: Crowin' Cock | March 25, 2012 at 08:39 PM

So you think that criminals should not be outed because it might hurt their children?

In this case, how do you think those children would feel about me if I didn't post it and their father got AIDS from the next hooker he slept with, and gave it to their mother?

You don't really care about those kids – you're just trying to protect Chabad.

Crowin' Cock

You're still missing my point. His family didn't deserve to have the whole world see their dad "in action". Whether or not him or butman or krinsky and company did anything wrong.

Imagine it was you dad in the film and someone posted it for the frum world to see. How do you think you'd feel towards the guy that posted it?

Shmarya

You miss the point.

Chabad wants him gone. They do not want him running a Chabad House or any other Chabad org.

But get him gone that have to PUBLICLY admit what he did – something Chabad will not do for the reasons I stated above.

So when concerned Chabadniks – allegedly shluchim – leaked the video in Israel to go around Krinsky, Kotlarsky and Shemtov and hopefully do what they wouldn't to force him out, Chabad apparently got the links to the video removed and the stories killed.

And then someone leaked it to me.

People screw up. People sin. I turn down most stories like this (unless there is a clear victim, like with pedophilia or spousal abuse or theft, for example) – unless that person is a public figure or a rabbi and has refused to deal with the problem.

This rabbi hasn't dealt with his problem.

Crowin' Cock

Shmarya,

Whether or not Chabad tried to cover up this story isn't the point of my comments. You're simply steering the conversation elsewhere.

And I wasn't trying to threaten you, I have no point in doing so, and quite frankly, have better things to worry about then some silly blog rant. Picking fights with indiscriminately everybody in the frum is just plain stupid, and will eventually land you into real trouble somewhere along the line. It's that simple.

It's one thing to out a child molester, quite another to ruin someone's life for a few clicks to your blog.

Shmarya

Please.

Did Chabad issue a statement removing him from office?

NO.

It didn't because if it did, it would eventually be forced to explain what the rabbi did. And it won't do that because it refuses to admit that any of their rabbis fall off.

But some do.

And Chabad will risk lots of things to hide that.

as for your threat, that works for you, too. What goes around, comes around – perhaps a lot faster than you might realize.

Crowin' Cock

Shmarya,

To address your response:

"When I posted this, the rabbi was still running his Chabad operation and still calling it Chabad."

I don't see this has to do with anything. I assume the video wasn't his first time with a hooker, yet his Chabad house was operational. I'm quite sure many rabbis have all kinds of hidden secrets. Their wrongdoings are between God and themselves (as long as they don't involve others in any way).

"It isn't as if he had resigned in disgrace or had checked himself into sex rehab or done anything else even remotely responsible to deal with this."

Sure. If he'd checked into sex rehab and you find out about it, you'd be the first to post the story.

"He is not a private figure – he's a public figure and a religious leader. And his misbehavior is news."

More bull shit. If he were a simple bearded Jew and not a rabbi, you'd have posted the story just as quick. Furthermore, I don't see you posting derogatory stories about any other religious leaders such as priests or imams. You seem to have an obvious problem with frum people/leaders no matter what they do. I agree with many of the comments calling you a self hating Jew, it's quite obvious that you are.

Just remember, what goes around, comes around.

mother fucker

you should wear a codon when you fuck a whore
mr noah.

Sm

Dovy

It is him. It's a fact. Bthis happened three weeks ago and he is now in Israel. The facts are some other suluchim knew what he was up to and had the webcam planted there. What they did not spect was the brothel to post it on a Russian video rating site. Have someone translate the conversation he has in Russian. It would help you get a better perspective. As far as other sites it was on bchadrei chareidim before they were pressured to take it down by chabad. What do you think, chabad can do no wrong? Please

dovy

What a bunch of B.S.

Why is this website the ONLY site reporting on this?

How do we know that is Really R'Kamenetsky, or a prostitute? What facts do you have? A dead link on Chabad.org? That's your proof? Really???

Could be some frum guy schtooping his wife. Big deal

Where is any proof? you all should be ashamed of yourselves.

What a bunch of Bollocks

Enough already

Shmarya

Its about time that someone like yourself comes out and doesnt take down the post under pressure like Bchadreichareidim.com did in Israel. Yes the guy ruined his life and that of his families. However people have to see the truth. Krinski, Kotlarski and Shemtov cannot get away any longer.

Bottom line is its OK for chabad shluchim to Steal, Cheat Lie threaten etc. But not ok to Fuck a whore. I think he was trying to be mekarev her by Injection to Push out the tuma in her.

Chabad better get their shluchim in Line. They seem to hate bad press. From what I understand there is a big story on the verge of exploding in FL. Stay Tuned... Watch the fish...

The F-Stops Here

To Impressed, who wrote: "Wow, he's hung like a Shetland pony!"

...yeah, don't think we didn't notice that either. As my friend from teenager-hood used to say, "he's hung like a pimple!"

abcdef

"It isn't as if he had resigned in disgrace or had checked himself into sex rehab or done anything else even remotely responsible to deal with this.

Posted by: Shmarya | March 19, 2012 at 08:06 AM"

This rabbi should have resigned if he hasn't already, no question. However, sex rehab? Is that a joke? Because he visited a prostitute?

Sick and tired

Ok I've read all the bleeding heart responses posted here. Why is it that religious people are blinded to the truth?

1. Rubashkin is a crook, standing behind him is reprehensible.
2. This guy willfully visited and shtupped a prostitute, shamelessly wearing his yamulkah and answering a phone call. Another reprehensible person.

So what's going to happen now? Perhaps the Crown Heights community will rally for him. Raise money..even though he hasnt been arrested, perhaps he could still be considered a pigyun shvuyin...

Shmarya

Posted by: Crowin' Cock | March 19, 2012 at 07:52 AM

Please.

When I posted this, the rabbi was still running his Chabad operation and still calling it Chabad.

It isn't as if he had resigned in disgrace or had checked himself into sex rehab or done anything else even remotely responsible to deal with this.

He is not a private figure – he's a public figure and a religious leader. And his misbehavior is news.

Crowin' Cock

I rarely visit this site, and probably my first time commenting.

What the guy did in the video is pretty bad, but what he did to his family is worse.

But even worse is failedmessiah deciding to post a link to the video. Not bad enough that the so called rabbi has destroyed his family, now this blog has to rub his wife's and children's face in shit by posting this clip of their dad.

As much as Shmarya may hate chabad, it's simply cruel to put the man's family through this extra torment.And for what? A few extra clicks to your site?

Shame on you. Eventually, your going to piss off or ruin the wrong person. When they come after you, it will have been well deserved.

Chicago Sam

Caught this on an interesting website:

They say that each generation goes lower in morality than the previous one and this is pretty blatant by the latest news of the chabad world. Apparently a Chabad shaliach in Russia is the latest to succumb to immorality by thinking he could be mekarev a Jewish girl who has fallen to hooking as a profession, unfortunately, the Rabbi was tricked into having sex with her on video tape. In order to justify this “unorthodox” form of kiruv, he left his yarmulke on during the whole video which I will not link here. This of course brings me to question what everyone has on their mind (besides for running to the bathroom to waste some seed) and that is, are honey pot kiruv missions allowed.

Can Aish Rabbis have their daughters sleep with guys to make them frum and can chabad rabbis sleep with prostitutes if they promise to light shabbos candles and keep taharas hamishpacha – in the prostitute world, keeping taharas mishpacha is like keeping shmita for Israeli farmers. To lay fallow for 2 weeks out of the month is hard on the wallet and requires great faith that hakodesh baruch hu will provide many clients during your clean times and I wonder if the prostitute now makes more since the chabad guy made her frumme

observer

People! Live and let live!!! Who are you to judge? Where does it get you to rake a person through the mud like this??? Live and let live!

rebitzman

Looked under harlot - found couple hundred more - still can't the citation, Litvish - hope you can help out

fuckface

opposites attract!!!!!!!!!!!!

rebitzman

@Litvish

Found 20 references to "whore" - still can't find your citation.

rebitzman

@Litvish

I know of 4 references to prostitutes in Talmud - Yevamoth 61b, Kiddushin 81b, Chullin 13b and Becharot 45a. None of them read as you claim.

You have a citation?

_____________________________

By the way, rabbinic Judaism (as I know it) builds on the opinions of the Rabbis, but do not take what they say in the gemara to be hallachah.

And my rabbi? Thinks I have a brain and would prefer that I use it rather than come running every time I need a question answered.

Abracadabra: World Famous Mekubal, Gadol, Baal Moifes & Lamed Vavnik. Brachos Only $36, 3 for $100.

this could definitely lead to mixed dancing.

APC - That was the best!!! And your answers to Deremes were excellent.

I know I'm joining this discussion very late, but some of the comments here were very funny! Thanks all. Very entertaining.

Oh, and Mordechai, I wont miss you. But I know you'll miss FM!

Btw Mordechai - I wonder if there would be a video of this guy walking into McDonalds, and ordering and taking a few bites out of a Big Mac with cheese, you'd "boycott" this website for posting it.

Litvish

It may come as a surprise to some readers that the Talmud and many poskim explicitly recommend using prostitutes for those who want extra-marital sex.

Of course, this option is only for men.

Women have no such options.

They just have to make challahs, change the diapers, and shut their mouths.

Rabbinic Judaism: why use your brain when you can just do as you are told?

rebitzman

@ Mordechai

Can't say that I will miss you, and will agree that posting this video was troubling to me.......until I turned to the Talmud which reads:

Yoma 86b: One should expose hypocrites to prevent the profanation of the Name.

This seems pretty clear.

Seems also pretty clear (given your indignation) that perhaps you are a true Torah Jew.......when it's convenient?

JesusWasANigger

Performing 'Ufaratzta' in its highest sense.

The F-Stops Here

Somebody mentioned he might've been set up, since there's a huge underworld element in Russia. Of course he was set up! How many sincere, innocent types strategically place a camera positioned on the bed during times like this! ?

That said, thank you for posting, SR. You just made my strenuous work day easier to endure.

nachos

What this Rabbi did was disgraceful and he will pay dearly. Some of the jokes about it on this thread were examples of disgusting behaviour.

Abu Jihad Schneerson

Eli,Vegas is the best choice!And yes,I think this heilige Rabbi Kamenetsky would be perfect for a video;althought,being our new religion very liberal and egalitarian,I guess it would be best if he also recited with some black shemales in order to please our gay worshippers.I would call the video:"Metzizah B'Peh on a well hung stud".The only trouble with ha rav Kamenetsky is that his dick is short and so we'll not be seen as masculine enough.But who cares,since he has more than proved his kedusha?

Sharya Slayer

I do hope it is linked to Kamanetzky because the oligarchs will find and bump off shmarya. and let us say amen

Eli, apprentice messiah superstar just without the Andrew Lloyd Webber soundtrack

Abu,
More good ideas! Definitely Vegas.
I'm trying to get in touch with Rabbi Kamenetsky to see if he's available to do a promo video for us. Or do you think there's too much if a yech factor?

Isa

The 'prostitute' was in the process of converting...

This was her first 'quiz'...

The rabbi has some good moves!

skepticalyid

Mordechai might not read this post, but if he does...dude, the John's a Zionist!!! :-P

Abu Jihad Schneerson

Eli,why we are at it:did you elaborate our new religion's tzniut and sexual morality codes?My opinion is that perfect tzniut for women would be to force them to wear latex catsuits,high heeled black leather boots and a whip.Every practice other than bdsm should be deemed as goyish and obscene.As for the holy see,I'd say Las Vegas or Amsterdam.What do ya think?

Eli, apprentice messiah superstar just without the Andrew Lloyd Webber soundtrack

To FirstGenerationBavarianAmerican ,
Thanks! Correction noted!
Since you know Sir Andrew, maybe ask him kindly if he'd consider composing the soundtrack for my new religion? Abu is on board so we're already more than a lonely cult.
I'd be willing to grant Sir Andrew the equivalent of sainthood if any of his numbers reaches the top of the charts.

Beshtian

what's wrong with having sex with a prostitute? it seems like he's treating her very nicely. I have no problem with that. why do you?

It would seem like you are still very much under the Lubabitch influence/brainwashing where you must forever pounce on your opponents/friends weakness, and point out how you would never stoop so low -by us that would never happen. I am not sure whom i despise more: the FSU for producing it, Chabad for disowning him or you for posting this shit.

how is having sex with a prostitute making him less of a Rabbi, man or human?!

ML

ewwww this guy was working every hole without a condom! aids anyone?!?!?!

מרדכי סטמר

I am taking time out from FM- at least temporarily.

1) To protest the shfichas damim of a Yid.
Some people here might be happy that I'm gone,but this is the only thing in my capacity to show that I'm outraged what shmaryah did.


2)
I think, all readers and commentators -even those who voiced their protest- are partners in this grave act of this _______ shmaryah ,
As the old saying goes לאו עכברא גנב אלא חורא.


I hope that if more sane people will quit FM, this POS Shmaryah will get the message that although his very existence is only to besmirch his own brethren,
But at least he should have some kind of sanity in knowing when its not fair game even in his crooked brain.

Good bey everyone!

thelionking


that was the post

Guys this is pure outright Shfichas Domim.
1 to lion his father is not Kaminetzky from Dneper.
2 i know this guy, and i know his wife, the poor guy went to a hotel that had a hidden camera in. THIS IS HIS WIFE.
Shmarya has 1 purpose in life is to destroy orthodox people, on numerous articles he writes for the purpose of writing, with only a few % truth, takes every stupid story turns it into a movie = fiction.

is he no londer a shliach according to chabad headquarters ( answer is he has not been fired

thelionking

dear amazing
i expect to be taken as seriously as the guy who says it is his wife on the video

and again i called lubavitch world headquarters and asked if he is related to the rabbi of denepperostk rabbi shmuel kamenetsky and the person at chabad.org said they thought he was

so how do you know for certain he isnt
when the headquarters said they think he is

Isa

I hope the Chabad rabbi was some evil sob because only someone evil deserves this.

Before you blame Shymara, this video was already publicly posted.

Hey was this guy using a rubber?

Effie

So, anal sex is kosher? Ewwwwww!

A fan of Bubba

where's Bubba's post?

Chicago Sam

A sardonic word of advice:

The hidden moral of the story may well be:

Be careful to tip your prostitute generously--or you may live to regret it.

Litvish

He definitely felt at home, he worked every hole as an expert.

Posted by: Joe Field | March 15, 2012 at 08:13 PM
===

A true holier than thou-nik.

amazing

however they say that rabbi lazar and kamentestky are warning all shluchim that if they have done acts like this they should leave very queitly

Posted by: the lion | March 15, 2012 at 01:31 PM
@lion you have already discredited yourself with your first gross inaccuracies now with this you expect to be taken seriously?

Joe Field

He definitely felt at home, he worked every hole as an expert.

Fleishike Kishke

It's important to remember that when it comes to Chabad "Shluchim," it's all the kay-ach of the misho-layach (the power of he who sends, not the one who is sent). It was only the Rebbe's strength that gave the shliach the strength to do it in so many positions. Lube-a-bitch it is. :)

Hanna Moishezon

That is why videotape itself is forbidden as can be seen on the placards in many places.

David

I feel sorry that the rabbi has been shamed in this way during his moment of weakness.

This will have a major impact on him for the rest of his life and on the rest of his family.

I will not be watching the video.

Litvish

I predict that this video will go viral.

Lube- a- bitch will have feces smeared over its fat, bearded punim.

It will be seared into our collective memory biz di heylige moshiakh tsidkeynu vet tsurikshteyen.

Will they dump the used condoms on the rebbe's ohel?

Oh, sorry, they don't use condoms.

mimi

What has been seen cannot be unseen. The music is the icing on the cake-gross!

Fleishike Kishke


This rendezvous was not a moment of weakness. MendelChrist’s Missionary was clearly comfortable with the encounter. If the girl was his wife (which she's not, you pathetic sacks of cult shit) the lights would have been off. Isn’t it a big “sin” to fuck with the lights on? The Rebbe’s Shliach seems to have taken Viagra, he stays erect through the whole phone call, and at some point he stops to get some more lube (a Lube-avitcher?) into the girl’s vagina, so obviously the Tzadeikis/Rebbetzin isn’t very turned on by the encounter. The real question is was this Chossid thinking of the Rebbe MH”M during the tashmish? Also, kudos again to the Hava Nagila Band. Very stirring rendition.

Bubba

Dear Author,

It is quite obvious to me that you are blind to the damage you are causing society.

Prostitution is undoubtedly the oldest profession in existence, and it's taken a hit due to "outing" websites such as this one.

At first, it was only celebrities and politicians who were forced to suffer from these kinds of stories. Sadly, the time has come where no one is safe from digital photos & videos and the evil "journalists" who post them, ultimately creating weekly viral feeding frenzies.

The sex industry's once most loyal customers are now afraid to frequent Whore Houses and the Ladies they once trusted to keep their most treasured and potentially devastating secret. They no longer feel secure in their confidentiality, and let's face it, if you can't trust your Hooker- YOUR OWN HOOKER- then who can you trust?

I call upon you to reconsider posting these articles in the future, fearing that the Copulate for Cash business is under the threat of becoming extinct. To think, there might soon come a day where simple people like us will be unable to visit even our most necessary Bitches.

Do you want your children to grow up in such a world? I know I don't.

I thank you in advance for your consideration.

Sincerely,

Bubba the Pimp

Abu Jihad Schneerson

What a shame for all Jews!!!Such a shanda in front ot the world!!!!This guy's dick is so small,he has made all Jews in the universe a mockery for the goyim with his small cock.Today will be remembered as the saddest day in our history along with tisha be av.

FmFan

More porn videos, Please!

Shlomo1

APC how can anyone mistake you as being MO I mean your scren name your blogs but I suppose if you're not one of us you are all the same.
As an aside prostitution is legal in Australia but I still wouldn't call it victimless aside from the poverty that induces women to do it the legalization hasn't eliminated the trafficking and underage prostitution.
Even for the ones that do it most of them feel disgusted by what they do. Can you imagine the kinds of men that go to them and what they are asked to do

SkepticalYId

I'm told that this is the organization that busted him, as it were. Shmarya may know differently so I won't make any claims that it's accurate information:

http://totpi.com/

FmFan

More porn videos - Please!

Chicago Sam

Ah-pee-chorus,

Many thanks, words--like actions--need to be chosen wisely!

Had the film showed the rabbi with a child, that would be far more disgusting.

Well, at least he has a healthy libido, but he needs to learn some self-control.

Litvish

Posted by: Emmes

I disagree.

I saw his wife in another porno film, Sheindl does the Rebbe.

This is not her.

Emmes

Guys this is pure outright Shfichas Domim.
1 to lion his father is not Kaminetzky from Dneper.
2 i know this guy, and i know his wife, the poor guy went to a hotel that had a hidden camera in. THIS IS HIS WIFE.
Shmarya has 1 purpose in life is to destroy orthodox people, on numerous articles he writes for the purpose of writing, with only a few % truth, takes every stupid story turns it into a movie = fiction.

Berel the Butcher

@ The Lion

Why dont you admit that you are wrong instead of changing the subject.

SkepticalYId

Anyone remember Jimmy Swaggart? He was expelled from his denomination for his actions.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCpeeaIfF9c

A. Meshichist

Good for him!

That's what he deserves for not wearing a yechi yarmulka.

ah-pee-chorus

Chicago Sam-

youre a mentsch!!

all the best.

threlionking

why there needs to be an officail announcment from lubavitch is just that he has been removed from the shlichus not that he will be back soon after it dies down like happenned in seatle washingtom with the drug money laundering rabbi and in manchester with the happy hooker rabbi and since both families were connected tothe higher ups nothing was done

Does KY have an OU?

Coming soon to redtube.com

Litvish

What brokho did he make before fucking her?

Did he do a shehekhiyanu when he rammed her ass?

When she went down on him did he visualize der rebbe moshiakh tsidkeynu?

Did he pick the music that was played?

And you wondered what really goes on in the mitsvo tanks?

Tanks for nottin.

Chicago Sam

To my old friend ah-pee-chorus,

You are absolutely correct in everything you said. I am at fault for not defining my terms more carefully.

Atheist--ἄθεος,may mean "without God" in Greek, or it may mean--"against God," which is exactly the sense I meant to convey. Paradoxically to what theists think, the ethical "atheist" towers above the glib and hypocritical "theist." You may disagree, but I think the ethical atheist is far more religious than he gives himself credit for being.

There is an interesting line from Wikepedia that I think supports my premise, "Philosophers such as Georges Bataille, Slavoj Žižek, Alain de Botton, and Alexander Bard & Jan Söderqvist have all argued that atheists should reclaim religion as an act of defiance against theism, precisely not to leave religion as an unwarranted monopoly to theists" (s.v. atheism).

As mentioned earlier, the Sages consider the amoral theist a far greater problem than the garden-variety skeptic, precisely because he makes a mockery out of true religion.

Have a great day!

tonda

Member of the worlds oldest profession gets a visit from a member of the worlds oldest con. Is this really news?

Both over 18,both consenting. Adults having adult fun.

who knows

" To internationally shame this person is the equivalent to retzicha (murder)"

I agree, but would like to know why this same standard is not applied to the Israeli Haredi rabbis who shamed and disenfranchised tens of thousands of converts and their families just a couple of years ago. Mind you the converts did nothing of this sort, they just happen to be converted by a Religious Zionist Rabbi.

There was not a word from people like you or from official Lubavich in defense of those defensless and innocent people.

Litvish

Chabad is no exception to the pernicious brain rot that infects anyone stupid enough to substitute a personal relationship with hashem for a rebbe/ whore.

Haredim/ frumiks are the number one enemy of the Jewish people and Israel, a point that is daily made on this site.

Their obsession with sex is very telling. They start out life by giving blow jobs to their little boys and it is all down hill from there, crying, God made me do it!!

Their beards and black hats only show how screwed up they are.

What a pathetic bunch of losers.

They are the last ones to realize how they have been duped.

ah-pee-chorus

the woman might have been BORAT'S sister. she is the number 4 prostitute in all of kazakhstan.

Moshe in Israel

You guys have it all wrong. This is vintage porn from the 1920's (it's in B/W).

Even back then, guys wore hats at all times, so him wearing his Kipot would be typical for the period.

And how do you know it's a Yid? Franciscan Monks have long beards and wear skullcaps.

And besides, we need more evidence to prove it really is him, they all look alike.

And another thing, let's be דן לכף זכות.

And Shmarya, judging by the total number of comments (129), sex does sell. Tens Of Thousands At Vizhnitzer Rebbe's Funeral get's a measly 4 comments.

Give the people what the people want!

ah-pee-chorus

Perhaps the greatest thing the Rebbe did in his life was to take ordinary individuals and make leaders out of them. It takes great courage to take ordinary people prone to vice, sin etc. and task them with important work despite their imperfections.
Posted by: A Chabad Shliach

war is peace...ignorance is strength..

that might have been one of the STUPIDEST things the rebbe did. most people arent cut out to be leaders. many because they are of weak mind and character. the rebbe did it because he was interested in QUANTITY of messianic jews and not QUALITY. from a business standpoint, this may have served chabad well. but from a depth of message and honesty and character standpoint it fails miserably.

as a chabad shliach i realize that your brain has been dulled to where it is unable to think rationally , employ objective analysis and think critically , especially when it comes to the rebbe. i'm glad i could help.

ah-pee-chorus

i understand the argument that theres no need to show the video. of course news purveyors of every stripe are faced with this type of decision every day. however , were it not for the tape, every chabad clown and charedi apologist would insist that it never happened, it wasnt him, he was forced, etc....
you cant have it both ways, guys.

and for the record, i have nothing against prostitution. while there is definitely a lot of human traficking related to it, that is a direct result of it being illegal. if it were legal as it should be, the pimp factor would disappear almost completely.
places like the bunny ranch are filled with adult women who are thrilled to be there.

SkepticalYid

He did that as an individual who faltered ethically. Not as a Rabbi. (Aristotle was once found by his students doing an immoral act. When he was asked how such a great man can do such a lowly act, he replied, "Now I'm not Aristotle. Not sure if the story ever happened, but the point is powerful)

Posted by: To the lion | March 15, 2012 at 03:55 PM

He is a Rabbi. He stands for a MORAL standard and preaches that standard. If he was seen publicly eating a cheeseburger he probably would lose his position.

Mike

@ ah-pee-chorus:

This is one issue I can agree on with you 100%. These rabbis tell people to be modest and that women should be barefoot in the kitchen, and in the meanwhile he's all over her tits (I did watch it and boy do I regret it). Shmarya has every right to show to the world how hypocritical these people are.

People who know they're commiting and act of sin usually take off their yalmukah out of shame. This guy had no shame. No remorse for what he was doing. And then to turn around and tell people that he will lead them to salvation... it's unreal.

And @ Chabad Shliach:

If this man had an "act of weakness" as you call it, why is it that by adolescents and women is having an act of weakness "an abomination that must be eliminated" while you feel obvious pity for this one?

If someone tells me how to act and then does the exact opposite, he deserves whatever shame he gets. No questions asked.

Bangkok

Obviously he was raped.

But seriously, this is not nice Shmarya. Really not a nice thing for you to publicize.

To the lion

Please tell me you're joking about Chabad making an official condemnation. Is there a person in the world who would think that Chabad views patronizing prostitutes as a good thing, if not for an official condemnation? Gosh! I challenge you to find a Lubavitcher or human being for that matter on planet earth applauding what that man did. He did that as an individual who faltered ethically. Not as a Rabbi. (Aristotle was once found by his students doing an immoral act. When he was asked how such a great man can do such a lowly act, he replied, "Now I'm not Aristotle. Not sure if the story ever happened, but the point is powerful)

FirstGenerationBavarianAmerican

To Eli the Superstar:
That British composer's name is spelled Andrew Lloyd Webber (two b's). Met him once.

SkepticalYid

Posted by: Deremes | March 15, 2012 at 02:27 PM

Are you so ignorant that you really believe most of those girls do prostitution and pornography by choice? You really think it's a victimless crime??
Do you have any inkling why activists on both the left and right are opposed to prostitution and pornography? It's because those women are practically held in bondage and are badly abused.
A wonderful man, a Rabbi who supports that system. probably more then once.

Brian

philip- if you bothered to read on...

"Whilst people will realistically never stop cheating on their spouses, maybe it will cause a change in the way in which 'values' are instilled in Charedim... for fear of exposure, if not anything else."

philip

Secondly- exposing this sort of behaviour helps prevent other people from engaging in it.

Yes, this will help end the prostitution trade. He should receive a medal for his part.

Brian

And to all other idiots out there, i'm going to spell it out for your in shouty capitals:

DON'T BLAME THE MESSENGER, BLAME THE MESSAGE

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