Haredi Rabbis Force Restaurant To Sideline Female Servers
A haredi kosher supervision agency forces a restaurant to sideline all its waitresses due to modesty concerns.
Heimishe Essen is one of Rehavia's oldest restaurants, serving traditional Ashkenazi food to the Jerusalem neighborhood's residents for many years.
Rehavia is an old "mixed" neighborhood near downtown made up of secular, Zionist Orthodox – and a rapidly growing haredi population.
Heimishe Essen is located across from a secular school and nearby a haredi yeshiva. And that's where Heimishe Essen's waitresses' problem comes from.
Haredi yeshiva students commonly study all night Thursday, taking breaks to buy cholent and other foods from vendors and from neighborhood restaurants which stay open late (or open early) to serve them, and it's common to see groups of young haredi men throughout Jerusalem crowding around a cholent vendor's stand or a bakery at 2 or 3 a.m Friday.
Heimishe Essen tried to fill the same need for the haredi yeshiva students in Rehavia. But it's haredi kosher supervisor, the Badat'z of Agudas Yisroel, would have none of it – unless Heimishe Essen agreed to use an all male wait staff, Mynet reported. The fact that the waitresses all dress modestly and that some are themselves haredi apparently did not matter to Agudas Yisroel, and Heimishe Essen's owners agreed to comply with the kosher supervisor's demand.
Thursday night is a very busy time for Heimishe Essen, and using only male wait staff means the sidelined female wait staff loses a lot of money. And that is forcing some of them to look for new jobs, Mynet noted.
[Hat Tip: Jacob's Bones.]
Economic disenfranchisement of one group of people (women) by another group that refuses to work (their men)?
Crazy sh*t.
Posted by: JK2 | March 12, 2012 at 11:35 AM
If the females dress in a normative manner , this is crazy, but I have been to a Glatt kosher steak house in Mid Manhattan with an OU haechsher where the maitre dee a young woman wears a pair of slacks that reach at best to her hip bone.
I jsut could not believe the OU permitted this sort of outfit.
Posted by: schneur | March 12, 2012 at 11:38 AM
The Haredi Paradox:
Men refuse to work, woman are not allowed to work . . .
Posted by: SM | March 12, 2012 at 11:40 AM
We need segregated dining areas. The women section should have all female waitresses.
Posted by: Sid | March 12, 2012 at 11:45 AM
They will not be happy until they reduce the Israeli economy to rubble. Their ridiculous demands and protests weigh heavily on business owners who do not realize that if they give an inch, the haredim will take a mile.
Posted by: Alter Kocker | March 12, 2012 at 11:52 AM
So it's ok for male waiters to serve female patrons, but not tznius for female waitresses to serve male patrons?
Hummmm .....
Posted by: Confused | March 12, 2012 at 12:10 PM
So it's ok for male waiters to serve female patrons, but not tznius for female waitresses to serve male patrons?
Hummmm .....
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Nope. they will soon realize that is a problem and outlaw females in all restaurants by refusing to give the kosher stamp of approval to restaurants that serve female patrons.
Posted by: Dovit | March 12, 2012 at 12:20 PM
Inaccurate translation and made up paragraphs based on original with information not found in the original article added.
Certainly not a complete translation.
Left out long qoutes from one waitress.
Nowhere did it say anyone would be fired.
The article did say that apparently the request came from extremist elements not from the patrons or neighbors etc. Apparently the request was only for Thursday nights.
Hey how about next time translate the article to the best of your ability and not editorialize what you present as a translation.
Although the plot presented in the big picture is accurate.
Posted by: Jake | March 12, 2012 at 02:58 PM
lol
Posted by: ruthie | March 12, 2012 at 03:10 PM
I am confused if I remember correctly in the SMR fiasco the rebbies said all they do is if the food is kosher or not.
i see they lied again
Posted by: seymour | March 12, 2012 at 03:46 PM
Hmmmm....so that explains the feverish masturbation by the Haredim in the restaurant's bathroom. They never saw a waitress in her natural habitat.
Posted by: Alter Kocker | March 12, 2012 at 03:58 PM
The Badat'z Rabbis are correct here. All females above the age of eighteen should remain barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen.
P.S. I am now attending the "W4M School of Satire". Online Campus. New semester just started. Course fees are most reasonable BTW.
Posted by: Adam Neira | March 12, 2012 at 04:15 PM
What happened to the Hooters that was supposed to be open in Israel ?
Posted by: Bassy the Haredi Slayer | March 12, 2012 at 05:59 PM
Wasn't Thursday night cholent banned?
Posted by: Gefilte Fish | March 12, 2012 at 06:29 PM
What happened to the Hooters that was supposed to be open in Israel ?
Posted by: Bassy the Haredi Slayer | March 12, 2012 at 05:59 PM
The mashgichim are too busy fighting to be the tamidi in that place.
Posted by: Yochanan Lavie songwriter extraordinaire | March 12, 2012 at 06:56 PM
If the females dress in a normative manner , this is crazy, but I have been to a Glatt kosher steak house in Mid Manhattan with an OU haechsher where the maitre dee a young woman wears a pair of slacks that reach at best to her hip bone.
I jsut could not believe the OU permitted this sort of outfit.
Posted by: schneur | March 12, 2012 at 11:38 AM
I was under the impression that the OU did kosher certification, not wardrobe inspections but what the hell do I know - I left this crazy cult of misfits stuck in the 1700's a while ago.
Posted by: NeverFrum | March 12, 2012 at 07:18 PM
Inaccurate translation and made up paragraphs based on original with information not found in the original article added.
Certainly not a complete translation.
Left out long qoutes from one waitress.
Nowhere did it say anyone would be fired.
The article did say that apparently the request came from extremist elements not from the patrons or neighbors etc. Apparently the request was only for Thursday nights.
Hey how about next time translate the article to the best of your ability and not editorialize what you present as a translation.
Although the plot presented in the big picture is accurate.
Posted by: Jake | March 12, 2012 at 02:58 PM
Idiot.
1. I did N-O-T post a translation.
2. I did N-O-T write that anyone would be or had been fired. What I wrote is that some waitresses may have to quit because of lost income.
3. Either you stop lying or I ban you. No more warnings.
Posted by: Shmarya | March 12, 2012 at 07:55 PM
this is across the street from gymnasia rechavia which at one time was the best high schools in jerusalem. it was very secular and many of the teachers were anti relgious and very obnoxious to dati ziyoni and sephardim. the education was excellent.
lot of fond memories there from the seventies. unfortunately now it leaves much to be desired.
Posted by: henry | March 12, 2012 at 08:41 PM
Reply to NEVER FRUM
You are full of garbage if you left a long time ago you wouldn't be reading jewish blogs you obviously have issues that you can't let go
Posted by: Dave | March 12, 2012 at 10:46 PM
Reply to NEVER FRUM
You are full of garbage if you left a long time ago you wouldn't be reading jewish blogs you obviously have issues that you can't let go
Posted by: Dave | March 12, 2012 at 10:46 PM
While I no longer believe in all the BS associated with the orthodox world, I still admit that I find it somewhat entertaining. It's like watching a movie like Jackass (or 2 girls and a cup at the most extreme level)...you wonder to yourself 'why am I watching something like this', something tells you you probably shouldn't find it entertaining, but yet you don't turn in off right away. That's my best attempt to explain it, can't say I really care if you believe it.
Posted by: NeverFrum | March 13, 2012 at 12:30 AM
Also, just to clarify, the "why am I watching something like this" comment refers to the actions of the orthodox world, not this blog. Just wanted to be clear, didn't want to needlessly offend Shmarya.
Posted by: NeverFrum | March 13, 2012 at 12:33 AM
What happened to the Hooters that was supposed to be open in Israel ?
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It wasn't deemed kosher - after all, you can't mix milk with the meat.
Posted by: Dovit | March 13, 2012 at 08:32 AM
Forget waitresses! I don't know about you, but I find silverware to be very sexually suggestive. That knife, with those alluring ridges, it just puts all these lurid thoughts in my head. And the tines on that voluptuous fork, with all those luscious indentations. I just want to fork that sexy fork so bad. And that curvaceous spoon, running my fingers sensuously up and down its spine, oh, and that little dessert spoon on the side, sitting there so demurely, beckoning me to pick it up. That erotic little spoon just makes me pine for the supple flesh of some underage, nubile 12 year old girl (or boy, depending on how concave the spoon is). I think the city of Jerusalem should outlaw cutlery altogether. Men's yetzer harah should not be tested every minute of the day.
Posted by: Oneida | March 13, 2012 at 08:56 AM
The yeshiva theyre talking about is Zichron Shmuel, an Israel yeshiva, and Medrash Shmuel an American/English Yeshiva. I went to Medrash, have eaten repeatedly at Heimeshe, cannot think of once when I even noticed a female server there. Definitely never been any stories involving female servers from there.
Crackheads.
Posted by: Drunk Medrash Guy | March 13, 2012 at 12:06 PM
can you imagine how horrible it would be if one of the yeshiva boys started talking to one of the waitresses, and that eventually led to the 2 of them getting to know each other, and maybe even falling in love and getting married?
Posted by: ah-pee-chorus | March 13, 2012 at 02:23 PM
There will be a protest on Thursday
https://www.facebook.com/events/305657399488580/
Posted by: Warren | March 14, 2012 at 05:27 AM