Feldman Says Ex-Husband Slept With Her Cousin

Deborah Feldman's web of lies and intrigue continues to grow larger.

Deborah Feldman and Barbara Walters on the set of The View. Walters has refused to answer questions about Feldman's lies or her promotion of Feldman's book.

Julie Weiner of The Jewish Week has written a recap of the Deborah Feldman affair. That Feldman lied is by now abundantly clear. But Weiner adds some new details to the mix:

As for the now dispelled claim of murder and cover-up, Feldman downplays it: “I do not state that his father murdered him. I relay a conversation that I had with my husband, showing that my mind went to a certain conclusion and stating that my husband urged me not to jump to conclusions.”

However, in an interview with The Jewish Week shortly before the book’s publication, Feldman was more strident in her accusations about the matter, insisting that her brother-in-law was “the first on the scene” and that the Satmar EMT’s director covered up the matter out of fear that a “full-scale investigation” could affect ongoing lawsuits, including the community’s fight “for the right to have an independent village with funding from the state.”

She also told The Jewish Week that the dead boy’s father is “notorious in the community for being a lunatic.”

In that interview, Feldman also made a variety of other allegations that may raise the eyebrows of her detractors: claiming her ex-husband had an affair with Feldman’s cousin, family members e-mailed her death threats, and that in the Satmar community “the rules are just for show” and “all the young people are either ultra-fanatic or they want out.”

So we now know that Feldman's explanation of her presentation of the KJ "murder" is false.

Additionally, the claims she made in The Jewish Week interview are similar to the claims she made on her anonymous blog in 2008. But the claim she made in her book is milder – as if an attorney had edited it.

And that is most probably what happened. Simon and Schuster's attorneys probably edited that claim and to protect Simon and Schuster from being sued.

Feldman was regularly taken to the library by her mother.

Her mother did not abandon the family – Deborah Feldman ran away from it.

Feldman attended relatively liberal ultra-Orthodox schools as a young child, but was expelled for talking about sex (and, in one case, for also writing an essay on Christmas).

Her family is not strictly Satmar, her cousins overwhelmingly went to non-Satmar schools.

And these cousins say they swapped library books with Feldman.

The foundation of her entire story is false.

But it becomes clearer every day that Simon and Schuster does not care that Feldman lied. And that means other memoirs and non-fiction published by Simon and Schuster really need to be viewed as fiction, just like Feldman's should be.

If an author's entire premise for a memoir is false, the book should be recalled by its publisher. That's a lesson Simon and Schuster has not yet learned.

Comments

[leo lax]

I agree 100%, Simon & Schuster should clarify that this Book is fiction not a Memoir. And they (Simon & Schuster) would be off the hook

[Haimish McHorny]

It's like a car crash. In very slooooooow motion.

[moshe]

If she did lie, it's understandable coming from a Satmar background. They're not known for truthfulness.

[Kindered]

relatively liberal ultra-Orthodox schools
Isn't this an oxymoron?

[aBE]

its good for purim to see the satmer people care for truth.

[Malka Gittel]

Given everything else she wrote I am surprised that she is not claiming that her husband was sleeping with his sister. She kept complaining about their relationship in the book.

Other than that, at this point why is anything she says newsworthy? Isn't her 15 minutes of fame up yet?

[Emanuel]

She is very disturbed, no kidding. Now to be frank, it really does not surprise me in an era where most people want their 15 minutes of fame at the expense of their dignity (dignity is definitely overrated for them) via reality tv shows in order to make an easy buck. In tha case of Debbie Debbie Little Debbie, she decided to go viral with a C book.

[Henry]

Shmarya, I am seriously surprised at the fact that you're actually bashing someone who bashes a Hasidic community. I mean isn't the sole purpose of your blog to use any Hasidic flaw (namely Deborah Feldman's "lies") to strengthen your arguments against those in the religious community? For one thing, it's shockingly hypocritical in comparison to your other entries.

[Really?]

That's it! You finally convinced me to buy the book. I found it on walmart.com for 15 buxx including shipping.

[Critical minyan]

I just bought the book also. I love a good controversy. Thanks for piquing my interest shmarya.

[fg]

Goin to the library is a big no no in williamsburg. her mother was a liberal so she took her daughter, but that doesnt change deborhas story of he difficulties going to the library.

every single school in willi is satmar they are all controlled by a vad hachinuch of hisachdus harabunim (CRC)-an extreme satmar led organisation that sets rules for williamsburg in general.

[maven]

"intrigue"? Really?

[Ms Feldman thinks she knows best]

“The rules are just for show” and “all the young people are either ultra-fanatic or they want out.”

So says Ms Feldman. Now it must be true!

Wo! What a negative woman with a hilarious statement! How does she know everyone's secrets?

Not only did Ms Feldman close the door on anything Jewish in her life, other than what she's obligated to do with her son, she takes whatever Jewish experiences shes had, the same experiences that most Jews derive great pleasure from, gives them a negative bend, and voila, Simon and Schuster gets a best seller out of it, and Ms Feldman says that she now feels more Jewish. Comical.

Ms Feldman has become a poster child for the OTD (those leaving Hasidism/Orthodoxy) movement in the media (even though OTDers are not gladdened by her lies), representing less than one percent of the Hasidic and Orthodox population, no matter what she says.

Then theres the matter of Footsteps, the big players in the OTD movement, the organization Ms Feldman holds dear. They restrict membership and participation ONLY to prospective Ms Feldmans, perhaps more honest ones though. What is Footsteps scared of? What might those who arent prospective Ms Feldmans do to harm anyone?

Ive heard people refer to Hasidism as a cult, because of their wanting to be different and separate, grooming their members to be clone-like. A cult is defined as " a relatively small group of people having religious beliefs or practices regarded by others as strange or sinister." In my eyes Footsteps and their members are cultlike in their so limiting membership and activities ONLY to prospective Ms Feldmans, in cookie cutter style.

Its just one other kind of a restrictive cult.

No Jews who seek to observe Judaism as they please, need apply. Unless the mode of observance they choose pleases Footsteps founders and staff.

A negative woman, book and organization, all together, all the same.

[Grain of Salt]

Your doing more to increase her book sales better than HER PUBLISHER COULD EVER DO!

[FMreader]

To the troll above who has been posting all over the internet about Footsteps: get a life! You are a disgruntled OTD person (I won't out you here) who has a beef with the organization for reasons that have nothing to do with your bogus claims about it and everything to do with your own mental illness.

[Shmarya]

every single school in willi is satmar they are all controlled by a vad hachinuch of hisachdus harabunim (CRC)-an extreme satmar led organisation that sets rules for williamsburg in general.

Posted by: fg | March 06, 2012 at 11:19 PM

Please.

You're a liar.

She went to Vein, which is N-O-T a Satmar school, and Bais Yaakov of the Lower East Side, which is not a Satmar school and which is not located in Williamsburg.

[מרדכי סטמר]

Posted by: FMreader | March 07, 2012 at 12:34 AM
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Do not try to wishwash footsteps! They are Monsters!

They are at fault why one of their first members committed suicide after a dozen failed attempts!

[Tiredofthetroll]

Posted by: מרדכי סטמר | March 07, 2012 at 07:07 AM

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Watch out, because you are setting yourself up for a libel lawsuit (and don't think your identity is not traceable). Only someone lacking in any moral or ethical sense (you know, like someone who makes up false rumors about, say, about murder...hmmm) would take a tragedy like someone's suicide and use it to further their own warped agenda.

[Mikal W. Grass]

Is anyone going to speak with the cousin to verify the claim?

[BenZvi]

FM reader-
Threatning to "out" someone for making comments not to your lking
is walking in the "footsteps" of the repressive regimes you've walked away from. Ironically, coming from a curious, yet outside observer,
It's interesting to note that Debrah Feldman (on twitter) too claimed that footsteps didn't help her- and she was bullied by someone for saying so.

Might it be time for a journalist to report a more in depth look at this organization?

[Waiting4Moshiach]

Nebech, she is like a plant that has been uprooted from its pot and left to dry out in the son. How can it thrive? One day she will try to plant herself back into yiddishe soil but how will she make a shidduck for her kids then?

[Information]

There have been tons of stories about Footsteps, including:

http://www.thejewishweek.com/editorial_opinion/opinion/deborah_feldman_story_we_need_believe

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204409004577156961044037928.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

http://www.npr.org/2011/08/08/139220021/leaving-the-fold

http://blogs.forward.com/the-arty-semite/137264/

http://www.unpious.com/2010/08/the-departed/

http://forward.com/articles/13965/

http://www.cjp.org/page.aspx?id=98929

http://www.indypressny.org/nycma/voices/90/news/news_2/

http://video.nationalgeographic.com/video/player/national-geographic-channel/all-videos/av-10788-10988/ngc-the-newly-secular-life.html

[Zoobiemanyak]

Will Deborah Feldman be in the "Slut" walk?

[a reader]

Shmarya
After following your reporting on this story I now realize I need to see your reporting on all topics in a different light. Your logic and conclusions are clearly twisted and a product of some emotional issues on your part. I read the book, followed the news, interviews...It is clear to me now that you are not objective, or even thinking clearly. I'm glad this came up as it enables your readers to get a sense of your veracity.

[Anon]

"To the troll above who has been posting all over the internet about Footsteps: get a life! You are a disgruntled OTD person (I won't out you here) who has a beef with the organization for reasons that have nothing to do with your bogus claims about it and everything to do with your own mental illness"

Why would you care if its all clearly false?

[מרדכי סטמר]

Posted by: Tiredofthetroll | March 07, 2012 at 07:28 AM --------
(Everything I say is rumors only.
Am I covered now?)

Are you kidding!?

Taking "someones" tragedy for its own benefit?!

The whole idea of this organization IS taking a tragedy of someones elses son or daughter being on the "edge" and turning him/her into a tool for their "war"" against a specific community!

The first thing they do is, severing all ties and burning all bridges to the "subjects" family .
So the "subject" will have to rely "totally" on them.

Tell me how you call this organization a "helping hand" if someone is "afraid" to walk in in a synagogue on a yom kippur day out of FEAR of the "organization"?

How do you support an organization which goes to court months after the victim has been laid to rest, and asking from the court to exert his body, in order to cremate him?!!

I really doubt if the organization wants to have an open court about their activities. They know that they have alienated a lot of people "including" those who call themselves OTD'ers.
And are willing and able to show up,when push comes to shove.
(Disclaimer. I didn't have my Morning coffee today, since its taanis ester(remember its all rumors...)

[Sol]

We all know Feldman lied, and Simon and Shuster don't seem to care... Now what?? her 20 mins of fame are over!! She is living in Kookoolala land with her ziplock bags!! Now what?? Shmaria no need to prove it over and over again

[fg]

Mordcha You are lying. If you read Unchosen by Hella Winston, you will see a detailed description of an organisation that include people who went of the derech completely, and those who are in the process and still wear there hasidic clothing. They try to help people who dont watn to live this lyfstyle. what is wrong with that?

I understand that you believe kul yisrual eraivem zha l'uzha and an individual has no choice because the community has a fundemental right to govern individual lives
But Footsteps believes in individual freedom. The people who come to footsteps need help in setting there lives straight. Its possible that a man who is really confused and trys to dance at 2 weddings at once by eating yom kippur and then going to shul will incure the wrath of the organisation. in other words the person u mentioned was probably confused and needed strong guidence. But if someone really knows how religious he wants to be, then they have no problem with it

[מרדכי סטמר]

Its possible that a man who is really confused and trys to dance at 2 weddings at once by eating yom kippur and then going to shul will incure the wrath of the organisation.
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You said it all!!!!

Why do they want to take away an individuals freedom who still longs for aונתנה תוקף insanah toikef?!

I hate to talk what I know about them, (a few weeks ago I asked shamaryah to delete a post that I wrote about them)

But I/or my friend saw how a buchir affiliated with them, publicly humiliated his father at a public event!
Everybody there saw it with shock and pain!

And he told me/or my friend that its a way of starting to "feel" better about himself!

[Information]

There is so much mis and disinformation here. Why don't those who have questions call or email Footsteps directly and ask about its policies? As I understand it, the organization takes no position on peoples' level of religious observance (it provides kosher food at all of its events, after all). However, if someone is frum and is bothered by the fact that others are no longer observant, I would guess that he or she would not feel happy there and shouldn't go. But it is certainly not a secular version of a kiruv organization, which is what some people here seem to believe.

[מרדכי סטמר]

As I understand it, the organization takes no position on peoples' level of religious observance (it provides kosher food at all of its events, after all)
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You know that you are lying!!

Ms. Schwartz admitted on zev brenners show. That they do serve non-kosher food.

She tried at first to deny it, and when a caller told her the specific date and place, and she saw that people know about it, she admitted it.

[Deremes]

The thread is not about Footsteps. Lets stay on topic about lying conniving bitter little Feldman.

Simon and Schuster probably will not be hurt by this.So far they didn't respond to her lies in a strong way.I have a feeling that they knew about all her lies and exaggerations but still published the book.
Its not like they are a corporation out in Hawaii where they have no clue about hassidc Jews.But still since its a book from someone on the inside in Satmar they figured it will be a sensation even with the numerous lies.

My prediction,lying Deborah Feldman herself is going to disappoint Simon and Schuster in a big way and that will hurt them big time.

[fg]

The full details of this individual who shamed his father is unknown. But we must agree with the pupose of this organisation in principle. What good does it bring to have silent atheist amongst us. If somone wants to leave our community, i would say have a nice day!

[Shmarya]

Shmarya
After following your reporting on this story I now realize I need to see your reporting on all topics in a different light. Your logic and conclusions are clearly twisted and a product of some emotional issues on your part. I read the book, followed the news, interviews...It is clear to me now that you are not objective, or even thinking clearly. I'm glad this came up as it enables your readers to get a sense of your veracity.

Posted by: a reader | March 07, 2012 at 09:03 AM

Please.

You cite no errors of fact I have made because there are none.

The fact is that Feldman lied, those lies were clearly meant to make her story more salacious and therefore easier to sell, and she continued to lie after she got caught.

The truth is that you don't like the facts, so you attack the messenger – me.

Now toddle off.

[Shmarya]

Might it be time for a journalist to report a more in depth look at this organization?

Posted by: BenZvi | March 07, 2012 at 08:17 AM

As noted by Information above, there have been a number of stories done on Footsteps.

The problem is, the facts they report don't match the lies you want to believe.

[מרדכי סטמר]

Posted by: Shmarya | March 07, 2012 at 11:00 AM

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Shmaryah:

Forget for a minute that they are a sponsor of your blog. And what they are "putting out" for the press to see.

The one question that needs to be answered is,

Are they directly destroying a persons ALL ties,in order to gain full control of him/her?

And when they are already in full control of him/her, do they make sure with ALL costs that this person is FULLY in line with them?(Being that now he/she doesn't have anywhere else to turn to)

I'm telling you that the answer is YES!

And the end results turns out to be,that for some people its a prison , and they want to take their own lives.

[fg]

Shmarya, one of your biases is pointing out that she swapt library books with her cousin. when in fact that doesnt diminish her story. she only claims that going to the library is a taboo. how did she lie? That she ended up reading books from the library in secret? or that she didnt mention the fact that her OTD mother took her to the library? The fact is that the one who controlled her life did not let her read these books, and this is the message she sends to her reader

[RebbishaMishpocha]

The article says that Ms. Feldman “falsely claims that the first Satmar rebbe’s daughter was pushed down the stairs while pregnant.” However, the book states no such thing. The book claims that a rumor exists that the Satmar rebbe’s daughter was pushed down the stairs. Saying that a rumor exists that this occurred is not the same thing as saying that it did in fact occur. Ironically, although the article criticizes Ms. Feldman for inaccuracy, the article itself makes inaccurate claims.

[Shmarya]

Shmarya, one of your biases is pointing out that she swapt library books with her cousin. when in fact that doesnt diminish her story. she only claims that going to the library is a taboo. how did she lie?

Please.

She claims she had to sneak into the library when the truth is that her mother took her there.

She claims she couldn't have English language books in the house when the truth is, one of the schools she went to taught classes in English and used English-language textbooks, and she and her cousins openly swapped library books.

Later, when she ran away from home and ended up living with her grandparents (in the same building as her parents, one floor below them), her grandfather had the NY Times in his home (he didn't sneak off to read it as she claims), and the cousins still openly traded library books.

But don't let any facts get in the way of your defense of Feldman.

[Deremes]

fg,
To me these kind of lies are minor to the other lies she tells.Try hard defending a person who wrote a book full of lies.

I know her grandfather and family they live in williamsburg but are far from extreme satmar people.Her grandfather is a well learned and well read man and far from being farfrumt.Even her aunt who is one of the principals is far from farfrumt.In fact years ago there was a movement by some extremes in satmar to have her out from the school becuase she is too open minded.If i am correct NON of her grandparents einiklech go to satmar.
When she says that her grandfather didn't let her take piano lessons i bet she lies on this one too.

[amused]

"The fact is that the one who controlled her life did not let her read these books, and this is the message she sends to her reader"

I am half way through the book. I cannot see anywhere that her life was controlled by any individual. Her grandparents appear to me to be typical loving grandparents in that community. As far as the incident with her cousin, I cannot believe a word of it. The sexes are strictly segregated in Williamsburg with the laws of yichud adhered to. I don't believe her grandparents ever let her alone with an 18 year old cousin.

[fg]

shmarya,
reading a NY times in front of a child is incomprehensable in willamsburg cuz you are exposing a child to racy bikini clad images. so her grandfather must have read it in secret.

A library exposes a child to book to philosophies repugnant to judeism, under no circumstances would her grandfather let her go there. It can caus somone to become a heretic. If her cousine claims to exchange library books openly while she was in her grandfathers care, then she must be lying.

her claims of not being aloud to have english books is not in reference of textbooks because satmar english department demands every student to have all the text books of the curriculum. Her claim is regarding english novels etc

Once more you have showen your biases by choosing to believe a cousine rather then deborha

[Deremes]

"reading a NY times in front of a child is incomprehensable in willamsburg cuz you are exposing a child to racy bikini clad images. so her grandfather must have read it in secret.

fg | March 07, 2012 at 02:17 PM."

Try telling it to people who are not familiar with williamsburg and therefore believe what you write and what lying Feldman writes.

That may be the case with the NY Post or the Daily News but not with the NYT or the Wall street journal.
Come on fg you know your exaggerating.

[a reader]

The article link below addresses some of the satmars "issues" with this book. I feel the author makes very valid points. Shmarya and others are hysterical about teeny perceived inconsistencies but they do not deal with any of the real and serious issues raised in this book.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jesse-kornbluth/unorthodox-the-hasidic-ca_b_1323675.html?ref=fb&src=sp&comm_ref=false

[fg]

Deremes, doesnt macys advertise in the ny times their underwear section?

[Deremes]

Posted by: a reader | March 07, 2012 at 02:34 PM

I saw that article and i feel the author makes silly points.
The author is claiming that "the Satmars only want to engage on the smallest points:, like where Feldman went to school and the technicalities of her mother's divorce".
I don't know who "The Satmars" are. I am speaking for myself and i suppose i am part of what the author means "The Satmars".
My issue with lying bitter Feldman is NOT what the author claims.

[Deremes]

fg,
Dont sidetrack with Macys whoever whatever advertises. YOU know full well that the NYT and WST is no problem bringing home. Just be honest and say that you meant the NY Post and the Daily News or be like Feldman and stick with the exaggerations.

[fg]

Deremes, a bikini is still a bikiny it doesnt matter in which pare it appears.

Fine I will admit that the NYT is relative to the post or daily news considered a clean paper, but cleavage is still a problem in a satmar home even if its only the ny times.

[Shmarya]

The article link below addresses some of the satmars "issues" with this book. I feel the author makes very valid points. Shmarya and others are hysterical about teeny perceived inconsistencies but they do not deal with any of the real and serious issues raised in this book.

Please.

The basis for Feldman's book – its PREMISE – are those lies.

That you pretend this isn't so just makes you look like a fool.

[Shmarya]

Fine I will admit that the NYT is relative to the post or daily news considered a clean paper, but cleavage is still a problem in a satmar home even if its only the ny times.

Posted by: fg | March 07, 2012 at 02:57 PM

They are not hardcore Satmar.

[מרדכי סטמר]

Posted by: fg | March 07, 2012 at 02:57 PM
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"Footsteps" should be very proud of you....
Their hard work is paying off..
I'm positive, that you are NOT a former satmar'r!

[Annon]

Posted by: מרדכי סטמר | March 07, 2012 at 03:35 PM

Fg's misspelling of the words cousin (cousine), Judaism (judeism), allowed (aloud) as well as the sentence structure and grammar suggests that he IS Satmar.

[מרדכי סטמר]

Posted by: Annon | March 07, 2012 at 03:49 PM
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You won't understand what I meant. I'm sure fg got it

[מרדכי סטמר]

They are not hardcore Satmar.

Posted by: Shmarya | March 07, 2012 at 03:18 PM
_________
Shmaryah:

There's no such thing, hardcore satmar or non hardcore....
This is Satmar! A huge giant tent, like klal yisroal.

If you would know me, you would also say that I'm not a hardcore Satmar in your "imagination".
But this is what our Rabbi lived for ! A kehilah with all stripes and colors.

[Shmarya]

Shmaryah:

There's no such thing, hardcore satmar or non hardcore....
This is Satmar! A huge giant tent, like klal yisroal.

Please.

They didn't go to Satmar schools. They weren't hardcore Satmar.

And you can't lie your way out of that.

[fuck u]

listen u fat fuckin loser shmarya. pick a side. u bash the orthodox and then when its convenient for you, you bash those who turn against the orthodox. it doesn't work like that. you are a shitty reporter. i know i am grammatically incorrect in this post and you will judge me by it. i am college educated but lazy right now. honestly just give debora feldman the benefit of the doubt. she has gone through some serious hardships and stated in her preface that names, places and times may be inaccurate to conceal identities. why all of a sudden do you shmarya decide to protect the satmar community? b/c you feel they are pro ethiopian jews? what is your agenda? you bash lubavitch and then protect satmar? they are both eerily similar. both are anti zionist. you live in some hick town. you have no idea what goes on here in new york. you have no clue what feldman lived through and for you to bash her is inflammatory and libel.

[Surala fan club here?]

fuck u, what is $imon & $chuster paying you? Geez........

Or are you one of the many guys or girls looking to get into bed with the (in)FAMOUS Surala?

in-FAMOUS for another month max.

She'll blow over like the wind, and have copies of her Memwahhhhhhhhhh filling up her closets, with the remainder selling at Walmart for 2.99, which will sooner or later be used for recycling to toilet paper and paper plates.

Eat that.

[Orthowatch]

I read the book, and a lot of the "lies" people are claiming exist are not really there. For example:
She never says she wasn't taken to the library as a kid. She says that when she was living with her grandparents, her grandfather didn't allow the books in his house. The Satmar school she was in did not allow them to go to the library. She never says her mom didn't take her when she was younger.

She also never said she only went to Satmar schools. She may have only written about the Satmar school years, but she never claims to only have gone to Satmar schools.

As for the "murder", I honestly don't know or care what happened. As she said, she repeated a conversation. The "proof" that was used against her is not valid proof. The allegation was that people covered up and records were falsified. Then those exact records are produced as proof to the contrary. That is not proof.

I'm not saying her book is all true. I honestly don't know. Just don't make up things to attack her. Find real, valid proof and present that.

[Shmarya]

Please.

What you say is true, but ONLY if you eliminate the context she writes in.

She BASES her entire book on extremism she NEVER actually experienced.

And that remains a true statement no matter how many times you misrepresent her work.

[fg]

Orthwatch,
you are using 2 different defens arguments that contradict each other.

1) is it that she couldnt care less how this boy died since its irrelevent to her reccolection of a simple conversation that took place, or

2) does she stand by her allegations and evidence her husband heard firsthandly of the first respondenders on the scene.

in other words, does she still allege a coverup happened? or doesnt she care what happened? which one is it?

[Kicked out everywhere else]

"I read the book, and a lot of the "lies" people are claiming exist are not really there. For example:
She never says she wasn't taken to the library as a kid. She says that when she was living with her grandparents, her grandfather didn't allow the books in his house. The Satmar school she was in did not allow them to go to the library. She never says her mom didn't take her when she was younger".

Do you DUMMIES think the courts involved in the divorce would have allowed her grandparents to switch her schools for no reason??????

Some people choose to forget that
she was only in Satmar because she was kicked out everywhere else.
Is that her "extreme" grandparents fault that she misbehaved to the extreme? Lets heap all the blame on her extrme grandparents. It feels better that way.

[Orthowatch]

fg: She stands by the fact that she heard something from her husband, and doesn't know the truth. She never said she doesn't care - I said that I don't care.

Kicked out: I've heard that some anonymous teacher said she was kicked out. Is there anywhere that the teachers name is mentioned? Is there a school record that shows she was kicked out? Or do we just accept an anonymous statement we read online?

[Shmarya]

She stands by the fact that she heard something from her husband, and doesn't know the truth. She never said she doesn't care - I said that I don't care.

Kicked out: I've heard that some anonymous teacher said she was kicked out. Is there anywhere that the teachers name is mentioned? Is there a school record that shows she was kicked out? Or do we just accept an anonymous statement we read online?

Posted by: Orthowatch | March 12, 2012 at 12:02 PM

Her family says she was kicked out.

And you'll note that her ex-husband and his brother have not supported her claims re: the 'murder.'

[Orthowatch]

Why would they support it? They're part of the community, and want to remain a part of it. Confirming what she said would get them booted out if not worse. They'd probably end up like the guy from New Square, with some idiot trying to kill them.

As for the schools, I've never seen her family say she was kicked out. Just some claim from someone who claims to be a teacher from BYLES saying she was kicked out.

[Shmarya]

1. Her ex-husband is NOT part of the community.

2. Her family told me she was kicked out of two schools – Vein and BYLES.

3. Vein and BYLES are liberal compared to Satmar. They use English language books and BYLES has an English language library, I think. And whether you can process this or not, spending a few years in those schools means she read English books and had English books in her house – and therefore the entire premise of her book is false.

[Orthowatch]

As I said before, she never said she hadn't read English books. She said that in her grandparents' house, she wasn't allowed to have them. When she was in those schools, was she living with her grandparents or her mother?

[Shmarya]

As I said before, she never said she hadn't read English books. She said that in her grandparents' house, she wasn't allowed to have them. When she was in those schools, was she living with her grandparents or her mother?

Posted by: Orthowatch | March 12, 2012 at 01:22 PM

Please.

You're either a complete idiot or a liar.

Feldman didn't write about her first two schools or about the liberalism of her parent's house because, if she had, she would not have much of a story to sell.

Process that.

[Orthowatch]

So she omitted parts of her story to sell more books. I don't deny that. That's a far cry from claiming that she made up things. It doesn't make her a liar.

As I wrote earlier, I'm not a fan of hers. I think her book is a huge chilul Hashem. However, I don't like when people make false accusations against her. There's plenty true things to attack her on.

[Shmarya]

So she omitted parts of her story to sell more books. I don't deny that. That's a far cry from claiming that she made up things. It doesn't make her a liar.

It does make her a liar.

That you don't understand that speaks volumes about you, most of them bad.

[Observer]

Wait !!
There is a movie in the making! It is going to be R rated and then some. It will be watched at melave malka gatherings all over the world.
This is where Feldman will be raking in the millions.