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March 13, 2012

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Dave

Chicago Sam, very well said.
As a separate comment from the above matter with Rav Druckman, but sort of related:-
I think that many people, haredi, non-haredi, Jewish and not Jewish have gotten into the "sorry, but" syndrome ie. "sorry" with an explanation. To quote some of our Haredi "this is not the Torah way". Apologies must be unqualified.

Chicago Sam

It seems to me that the apology ought to go directly to the victims. Making an amorphous apology doesn't work here. He needs to take responsibility for what he failed to do: report the Rosh HaYeshiva to the authorities.

Rabbinic law warns us against being silent in the face of a crime. Silence is complicity.

In addition, he needs to speak with the victims and their families and ask them for their forgiveness; if they forgive him for not speaking out against the Rosh Yeshiva, then I do not have a problem with him receiving the prize.


R. Haim Druckman's behavior from this point on must truly be exemplary. Providence may have given him a chance to set the record straight once and for all.

I am merely expressing an opinion, everyone here is free to differ.

Shmarya

Most of this English stuff is editorializing and inaccurate reporting..
Too many things to comment on from a iPhone.
Again a whole Bunch of mistakes.

Posted by: Jake | March 13, 2012 at 06:05 PM

You lied exactly like this in another post I did a couple days ago.

Druckman's argument is accurately represented, and NOTHING is presented as a direct translation of the Ma'ariv article.

So here's the deal.

If you lie one more time, I'll ban you and delete your comments.

Jake

Btw if Druckman doesn't deserve the prize it should be rescinded from ShimonPeres for promoting the Oslo Acoords which has left thousands of Israelite dead and wounde d.

Jake

This was not a interview with Maariv.

the Maariv reporter was reporting on a television interview that R Druckman gave.

The issue of apology was not mentioned by the Maariv reporter.

I hope Lesher is a better attorney then a reader of Hebrew.

Most of this English stuff is editorializing and inaccurate reporting..
Too many things to comment on from a iPhone.
Again a whole Bunch of mistakes.

Chaya Esther

Hearsay, all hearsay!

ah-pee-chorus

Kopolovich's victims probably brought it on themselves by dressing too provocatively. is there any truth to the rumor that his former yeshiva now requires all the boys to wear burqas over their pants and white shirts?

TroubleMaker

I never trusted the modern orthos. They're just tigers in sheep's clothing.

Posted by: Lubavitchers are Christians | March 13, 2012 at 09:57 AM

He looks haredi to me.

Shmarya

So this 'rabbi' really deserves a prize. Child molester, mamzerim converter, all in the name of orthodoxy.

Posted by: wam-bam | March 13, 2012 at 11:13 AM

1. He is not a child molester.

2. The people he converted are not mamzerim.

3. Your grasp of reality is even worse than your grasp of halakha.

wam-bam

So this 'rabbi' really deserves a prize. Child molester, mamzerim converter, all in the name of orthodoxy.

Mike

@Lubavitchers are Christians:

What does this have to do with being modern orthodox? It has more to do with his reputation than anything else. What I mean is, as far as I know, it's not the MO mindset to obligatarily cover up sex abuse.

That being said, anyone who does cover it up is an enabler. And that deserves to be punished.

Skeptical

This was a "Limbaugh" type "apology." I'm surpised he didn't blame the victims for his actions.

Lubavitchers are Christians

I never trusted the modern orthos. They're just tigers in sheep's clothing.

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