Video: Neturei Karta Wears Yellow Stars, Holocaust Garb In Anti-Israel Protest In NYC
The anti-Israel protest was held yesterday in Manhattan and featured little children dressed as death camp inmates, children who appear to think they're attending a costume party and who clearly have no idea what the Holocaust was. And, as you can see from this video, neither do the adults who brought them.
[Hat Tip: Burich.]
Jews have got to be the most complicated group of tribal people ever. Anti-Zionist and Anti-Israeli Jews; I don't know if I should laugh or if this is just a joke.
Posted by: GN | January 06, 2012 at 12:55 AM
Why no real Holocaust education in frumma schools? Talk to any frummer about factual details concerning 1933-45. They know next to nothing. Holocaust education for frumma kids would lead to questions and doubts about God. Mustn't allow that. Better to remain ignorant.
Posted by: essays | January 06, 2012 at 01:29 AM
Those cleaned and pressed, newly made striped uniforms are freakishly weird. Wonder whose wife sewed those puppies up in her hazing ritual.
Posted by: The F Stops Here | January 06, 2012 at 01:32 AM
what a joke!
Neturei Karta who Denied Holocaust in Iran, Now they Wearing Holocaust Clothing & Yellow Stars while Kids Picking Up Hands
You can't deny the holocaust happened. And then blame Zionism for starting it. Make up your mind!
http://twitpic.com/83r7zf
Posted by: Neturei Karta | January 06, 2012 at 01:39 AM
On some issues I have been sympathetic to Neturei Karta in the past, but on this point they have gone off the deep end.
Posted by: Adam Neira | January 06, 2012 at 01:42 AM
The good news I guess is that the Naturei Karta will basically remove themselves from the halls of decency and Godliness in this single act of major attrition. So guess what, this means that their spiritual presence will be greatly and vastly diminished. Maybe not a issue to the unconsiderate, but considering that they have a pull on the arabic communities and thus stand in the way of Torah and Jewish Ideals, I would say that their act of attrition will cause their own attrition and thus, the Naturei Karta eventually have a lesser aperature for success in their antics and egg throwing war of roses.
Posted by: western jew | January 06, 2012 at 04:12 AM
Amazing they can't count to four in English.
Posted by: Anon | January 06, 2012 at 04:42 AM
@ GN: "JEWS HAVE GOT TO BE THE MOST COMPLICATED GROUP OF TRIBAL PEOPLE EVER."
This is not some Jewish thing .... it's a human thing.
Posted by: ad | January 06, 2012 at 05:38 AM
Mustn't allow that. Better to remain ignorant.
Posted by: essays | January 06, 2012 at 01:29 AM
they will open a Pandora box question that cannot be answered to painful
and also they like to claim that they where killed because they where religious
teaching the holocaust will destroy that myth
Posted by: seymour | January 06, 2012 at 06:57 AM
What a tiny insignificant group of nobodies. Best to ignore them and hopefully they will go away. The worst thing you can do is give them a platform and coverage. They are to be treated like the wackos who go around carrying signs that say the word is coming to an end.
This group was so small that I didn't even see one police officer there!
Posted by: Confused | January 06, 2012 at 07:09 AM
These people truly are the Westboro Baptists of the chasidic world. The difference is, the average American doesn't have any idea what they heck they are on about.
They are very confusing.
Posted by: Yaakov | January 06, 2012 at 07:24 AM
The Westboro Baptists are numbered in a couple dozens. NKs are thousands. Considering the fact that Jews are much smaller group then Baptists it looks like we have disproportional amount of religiously motivated wackos.
Posted by: who knows | January 06, 2012 at 07:29 AM
there nuts and wrong
repost
the reason for Neturei Karta believes and Satmer and many orthodox Jews
..... that the exile of the Jews can only end with the arrival of the Messiah, and that human attempts to establish Jewish sovereignty over the Land of Israel are sinful. In Neturei Karta's view, Zionism is a presumptuous affront against God. Among their arguments against Zionism was a Talmudic discussion about portions in the Bible regarding a pact known as the Three Oaths made between God, the Jewish people, and the nations of the world, when the Jews were sent into exile. One provision of the pact was (1) that the Jews would not rebel against the non-Jewish world that gave them sanctuary; a second was (2) that they would not immigrate en masse to the Land of Israel. In return the (3) gentile nations promised not to persecute the Jews. By rebelling against this pact, they argued, the Jewish People were engaging in rebellion against God.
however, since In return the (3) gentile nations promised not to persecute the Jews has been broken
the other two should be null and void as any deal you make God should be no different he did not make sure that the nations of the world hold up to their end
therefore the satamr rebbio is wrong when he said Israel should not be created because of the 3 oaths since number 3 was broken by the holocaust the deal ends
Posted by: seymour | January 06, 2012 at 07:34 AM
From a prior post, I thought that this was to be a WORLDWIDE protest. So far this one was a dud, any other links to stories from the other protest locations "around the world" with, what I assume would be, protests by the thousands.
Posted by: Confused | January 06, 2012 at 08:07 AM
They are very confusing.
Posted by: Yaakov | January 06, 2012 at 07:24 AM
As evidenced by that guy in the hard hat that they interviewed! He had no clue what the protester was talking about. But I think part of that was a language barrier. The protester at the end seemed to have the best command of English, yet even he didn't communicate the basis of their grievances very clearly.
Where in NYC was this demonstration held? Did anyone reading here see it?
Posted by: Shoshi | January 06, 2012 at 08:10 AM
In answer to my own question, I see from the earlier post:
NEW YORK CITY: 800 second Avenue [between 42 and 43] at 3:00 pm, followed by a march to the United Nations [First and 43]
Did they do the march to the UN?
Posted by: Shoshi | January 06, 2012 at 08:15 AM
I just cannot stand to watch this. What reprehensible behavior! Luckily, people in NYC are quite accustomed to crazies of all descriptions, and I suppose that most people who see this will simply shrug and go about their business.
But, for those few living victims of the Holocaust who see this live or on the news, it may well be a different story. To see "Jews" dressed like this, and acting like this .... Unreal.
Posted by: MarkfromShortHills | January 06, 2012 at 08:15 AM
posted by: seymour | January 06, 2012 at 07:34 AM
Seymour, thanks for explaining the 3 Oaths and their meaning today. NT and Satmar cite the oaths when explaining their reasons for being against the medinah.
Posted by: Bas Melech | January 06, 2012 at 08:37 AM
It is interesting that the only noticeable noticeable man of 50 or older was forced to come.
I did not see anybody else with first or second hand knowledge of what happened in the holocaust.
NK and chareidi schools do not teach about it. Only recently have the Agudah schools stated that holocaust studies are necessary, because the present generation does not know about it.
About 15 years ago there was a much publicized story of a young woman raised in a NK home who left her religious life. She said that her disillusionment began when she asked her teacher about the holocaust and was told to shut up. (Her grandparents survived the war, probably in camps)
It was good that the video showed adults coaching the children what to say. I wonder many of them will be on the streets when they reach their teens.
Posted by: Bas Melech | January 06, 2012 at 08:57 AM
I just cannot stand to watch this. What reprehensible behavior! Luckily, people in NYC are quite accustomed to crazies of all descriptions, and I suppose that most people who see this will simply shrug and go about their business.
Fortunately this was a tiny "demonstration". An insignificant blip, one that would be swallowed up in a matter of seconds in the hustle and bustle of Manhattan street foot traffic.
Posted by: Confused | January 06, 2012 at 09:20 AM
with all that gets exposed on this site i expect myself to be numb to this sort of thing - yet i cannot help but be surprised time and time again at how low these people truly are.
i am sick to my stomach
Posted by: SM | January 06, 2012 at 09:37 AM
If, like some people, I were inclined to express myself with my saliva, this would be an appropriate occasion for such expression. However, I was brought up, above all, to be a mentsch, and so I will keep my bodily fluids to myself. But the thought is there.
Posted by: MM | January 06, 2012 at 10:55 AM
Message to Neturei Karta:
Go to hell. Go directly to hell. Do not pass Go. Do not collect $ 200.
Posted by: reb chaim | January 06, 2012 at 11:44 AM
That last guy is what Geddy Lee would be like if he had a lobotomy, then overdosed on a combination of crack, crystal meth, and heroin.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mav12Hm8fSs&feature=rellist&playnext=1&list=
PLDF67CA0F0EE47D6D
Posted by: WoolSilkCotton | January 06, 2012 at 12:28 PM
There is no doubt about this that theese ultra hassidim are on this earth for one thing to cause mayhem and havoc in the ordenary jewish life, they separate themselfs and think they are the best the smartest in reality they are the exact opposite the dumbest and worst behaved they are nothing but trouble trouble and more trouble no one should give one penny to their causes
Posted by: jancsipista | January 06, 2012 at 12:43 PM
Oy vey, I forgot that the NK don't really understand English very well. To them it's the sprach of the goyim. So I'll have to submit a new posting in a language that they appreciate - Yiddish. "Geh in drerd. Geh tief teir in drerd, und kum nisht tzurick."
Posted by: reb chaim | January 06, 2012 at 01:22 PM
How do we get CPS involved to help these kids? What kind of home life can they possibly have?
Posted by: devorah | January 06, 2012 at 01:57 PM
Given that this is perhaps the looniest thing I've ever seen in my life, I'll look on the bright side and take this as a sign that the Moshiach is on his way soon.
Posted by: Betzalel | January 06, 2012 at 03:00 PM
How do you take it as a sign?
Why is it that we can choose anything we wish to be a sign for something we wish to "prove"?
Pure narishkeit!
Posted by: BeenThereDoneThat | January 07, 2012 at 04:02 PM
my family died in the holocaust.. seeing this clip makes me sick.. i am going to new york to beat the living crap out of these disgusting viral pigs.. its time to show them that enough is enough.. i will teach them what respect is all about.. i am so mad.. its time to get ghetto on these fucked up pigs.. jews we must stand and strive from within in.. non-jews have more respect then these in-human vomit.. hitler had knowledge and he chose evil these people are evil.. beyond help....
Posted by: Avi | January 07, 2012 at 08:02 PM
I think before we make damning comments, we should read "The Holocaust Victims Accuse" by Moseh Sheinfeld - and only then - decide
http://www.israelversusjudaism.org/holocaust/victims.cfm
Posted by: bishloma | January 07, 2012 at 10:37 PM
Bishloma,
I've read the arguments against Zionism, including Kesubos 111A, and guess what? They are meaningless. Why?
Because the three vows have already been transgressed. We already have a Jewish State. There's no going back. And the Gemara never tells us what to do when the vows are transgressed.
So the Neturei Karta have made up their own religion by going around apologizing for Israel transgressing the three vows.
Posted by: Betzalel | January 08, 2012 at 02:18 PM
NK is a group needed sometimes. When the Israeli media is inciting against Hareidim,the NK group reacts here in the States as a defense team. I know many religious Jews that support their heroic efforts.
Posted by: Rebbeca | January 08, 2012 at 10:59 PM
Rebbeca:
Your comment is very confusing. Wearing holocaust costumes while waving a Palestinian flag is defending charedim? How?
I am very puzzled.
Posted by: Yaakov | January 09, 2012 at 04:25 AM