Police Make Wave Of Arrests In Response To Mea Shearim Violence
10 Gerrer hasidim and 15 Sicarii members busted on charges of rioting and damaging private property, cops say.
Haredim burn garbage and block street in Mea Shearim, Jerusalem
Police Make Wave Of Arrests In Response To Mea Shearim Violence
10 Gerrer hasidim and 15 Sicarii members busted on charges of rioting and damaging private property, cops say
Shmarya Rosenberg • FailedMessiah.com
Jerusalem Police told Arutz 7 that over the past few days, 10 Gerrer hasidim and 15 Sicarii members were arrested on charges of rioting and damaging private property.
Undercover officers dressed as haredim made the arrests when haredim protesting uniformed police who had entered Mea Shearim began throwing rocks at those uniformed officers.
“The recent riots in the area were actually due to police intervention,” police spokesperson Shmuel Ben-Ruby said. “Ninety five percent of Mea Shearim residents are not involved in these affairs and seek a quiet life. There is a small group of radicals who seek to disrupt the public order. Obviously I cannot list all of the tactics we use, but we are making good progress in dealing with the problem.”
The violence that had rocked Mea Shearim, Beit Shemesh and other haredi communities over the past year is rooted in the fight between Gerrer hasidim and the Sicarii for control of valuable Mea Shearim real estate. Their fight over the Batei Warsaw apartments, built more than 100 years ago as affordable housing for haredi immigrants from Poland, has resulted in beatings, arsons and attempted murders.
The Sicarii claim Ger is trying to force them and other non-Ger residents out Batei Warsaw so the complex can be torn down and rebuilt as modern housing for Gerrer hasidim.
Ger, which originated in Poland, claims the Sicarii, who do not have Polish roots and who operate as a street gang cum mafia, are trying to force them out of Mea Shearim.
Even so, the two warring groups united to attack their common enemy – the police. That led to the arrests made this week.
Police treated Mea Shearim as a no-go zone for several years due the extreme and frequent violence directed at them by haredim if they did enter the haredi neighborhood.
Increased media coverage the war between the Sicarii and Ger, some of it highlighting police inaction and police treatment of Mea Shearim as a no-go zone, may have contributed to the stepped up police presence in the neighborhood and the arrests.
[Hat Tip: Seymour.]
bravo let them theese ger and sikaris get a taste of the real world where you dont always get youre way or impose it on others both ger and other hassidim have degenerated into animals where the law of the jungle rules.
Posted by: jancsipista. | December 01, 2011 at 08:56 AM
There is a small group of radicals who seek to disrupt the public order. Obviously I cannot list all of the tactics we use, but we are making good progress in dealing with the problem.”
Very smart of them. Bait the traps and catch them in the act. You cant clean up the problem unless they get caught in the act. The next step is to make sure that they don't get off easily, if not their good work is for naught.
Posted by: p | December 01, 2011 at 09:28 AM
"Ninety five percent of Mea Shearim residents are not involved in these affairs and seek a quiet life. There is a small group of radicals who seek to disrupt the public order. Obviously I cannot list all of the tactics we use, but we are making good progress in dealing with the problem."
WOW FM posted something nice about Charedim
The statement was probably overlooked. Oh well, nobody is perfect.
Posted by: Dutch | December 01, 2011 at 09:50 AM
Ninety five percent of Mea Shearim residents are not involved in these affairs and seek a quiet life. There is a small group of radicals who seek to disrupt the public order.
This is obviously bullshit. Everyone knows that every single haredi ia a rapist, a murderer, a violent thug, a thief. EVERY ONE OF THEM. I mean, that's what I read here on FM.
And if you even think of trying to tell Shmarya that most haredim are not like that, you are intellectually dishonest, the tree stump is smarter than you, you are an unmitigated fool, and you get your information from Glenn Beck. Please.
Posted by: Guest | December 01, 2011 at 10:08 AM
Five percent terrorists is a very, very high fraction.
Posted by: anuran | December 01, 2011 at 10:10 AM
Take the 25 individuals and place them, while awaiting trial in a facility housing other israeli prisoners (non-jew). They will find out in short order that Jew on Jew violence is meaningless and absolutely criminal in a country surrounded by every faction wishing the end of the Jewish people.
Posted by: Alter Kocker | December 01, 2011 at 10:18 AM
25 is just a start. Must get all of them
Posted by: andre | December 01, 2011 at 10:56 AM
Gues- youre truly mentally disturbed if you need to make comments like you do about shamarya youre twisting and trying to deceive others about his comments you are one piece of excrement di farrikter beheime.
Posted by: jancsipista. | December 01, 2011 at 11:00 AM
Jancsipista - you're truly mentally disturbed if you need to make comments like you do about others. You're twisting and trying to deceive others every time. You are two pieces of excrement. Actually you are three pieces of excrement. Di farkakta chaya ra'ah. Gay kaken oifen yam.
Whoa. Now I feel better. I'm sure I made you feel bad, like you are sure you made me feel bad.
Now let's get back on topic.
Posted by: Guest | December 01, 2011 at 11:32 AM
mi k'amcha yisrael...
Posted by: zibble | December 01, 2011 at 11:53 AM
Guest- YES AND THE TOPIC IS THAT YOU SHOULDNT GET OF TOPIC IF YOURE SMART YOU WOULD REALIZE THAT YOURE SO PARANOID THAT YOURE INCAPABLE OF REALIZING THAT YOU FEEL THAT SHMARYA IS OUT TO GET YOU AND THE FUMMIES OR HAREIDIM THAT IS THE FURTHEST FROM THE TRUTH AS CAN BE HE WANTS THEM TO BEHAVE LIKE THEY SHOULD SINCE THEY ARE SUPPOSE TO BE ABOVE ALL PETTY FIGHTS AND QUARRELS.
Posted by: jancsipista. | December 01, 2011 at 11:58 AM
Haredim burn garbage and block street in Mea Shearim, Jerusalem
Can one confirm that it was garbage being burned and not cellphones or Bambas. I question this only because they usually burn the garbage while in the trash bin, the picture shown did not show the bin.
Posted by: p | December 01, 2011 at 12:03 PM
Haredim burn garbage and block street in Mea Shearim, Jerusalem
Can one confirm that it was garbage being burned and not cellphones or Bambas. I question this only because they usually burn the garbage while in the trash bin, the picture shown did not show the bin.
Posted by: p | December 01, 2011 at 12:03 PM
The picture shows the bin, turned onto its side.
Posted by: Guest | December 01, 2011 at 12:06 PM
Guest- YES AND THE TOPIC IS THAT YOU SHOULDNT GET OF TOPIC IF YOURE SMART YOU WOULD REALIZE THAT YOURE SO PARANOID THAT YOURE INCAPABLE OF REALIZING THAT YOU FEEL THAT SHMARYA IS OUT TO GET YOU AND THE FUMMIES OR HAREIDIM THAT IS THE FURTHEST FROM THE TRUTH AS CAN BE HE WANTS THEM TO BEHAVE LIKE THEY SHOULD SINCE THEY ARE SUPPOSE TO BE ABOVE ALL PETTY FIGHTS AND QUARRELS.
Posted by: jancsipista. | December 01, 2011 at 11:58 AM
I'm not paranoid. I'm not haredi, dear. But Shmarya is definitely out to "prove" that all haredim are thugs, child rapists, thieves, etc.
If you read all that Shmarya writes, with an open mind, you will see that he constantly generalizes about all haredim. When I tried to point out to him that if people would use the same generalizations about blacks, they would be branded racists.
That, of course, made Shmarya mad, (the truth hurts??) and since then he's been calling me different names, which is fine.
Shmarya is intellectually dishonest. I believe Shmarya is in denial, and has so much hate inside him that he cannot see reality if you threw it in his face.
If Shmarya was just pointing out the problems of haredim because he loves them and wants them to improve, he would have done it in a very different way. And you know that.
It is obvious to all that Shmarya is trying to turn people against haredim. (Not that I care, I am not haredi)
When I point out that the article states that 95% of Meah Shearim residents do not approve of the violence and "just want to live quiet peaceful lives", a fact about haredim that you wouldn't know from just reading this blog on a constant basis, you get all defensive.
I think YOU shouldn't be paranoid. Yes, you hate haredim, and admit it. Don't get all defensive about it.
Why you hate haredim is between you, yourself, and your therapist. From reading your comments here, I would venture to say that you constantly feel the need to excuse yourself for leaving the haredi lifestyle, and perhaps prove to yourself that you made the right decision.
If you weren't so paranoid about your decision, you would be happy with your life and move on. But you keep coming back, because you constantly need the encouragement. YOU ARE PARANOID, dear.
Admit it.
Posted by: Guest | December 01, 2011 at 12:16 PM
15-10 round 1 goes to the Gerrorists...
Posted by: corn popper | December 01, 2011 at 12:19 PM
Guest- YOURE MINDS EYE SEES IT THAT WAY MINE DOESNT ,THAT SHAMRYA IS TRYING TO PORTRAY ALL FRUMMIES OR HASSIDIM AS NO GOOD EVIL THAT IS THE EXACT OPPOSITE OF WHAT YOUREE SEEING TRY TO SEE THINGS IN A MORE ENLIGHTENED WAY THAT HE IS TRYING TO SAY THAT THEY THE FRUMMIES ARE SUPPOSE TO BE MORE AT PEACE WITH OTHER PEOPLE AND ABSOLUTLY NONVIOLENT WHICH AS YOU CAN SEE THEY FAR FROM.
Posted by: jancsipista. | December 01, 2011 at 12:26 PM
Posted by: jancsipista. | December 01, 2011 at 12:26 PM
I won't waste my time arguing with you. I'm sure YOU feel that way about haredim. I am sure you WANT Shmarya to feel the same way. But, alas, Shmarya does not feel that way.
There is no point in arguing about this. We will not convince each other.
Have a great day.
Posted by: Guest | December 01, 2011 at 12:30 PM
The picture shows the bin, turned onto its side.
Posted by: Guest | December 01, 2011 at 12:06 PM
You are right. B"H they were spared.
Posted by: p | December 01, 2011 at 01:05 PM
"The violence that had rocked Mea Shearim, Beit Shemesh and other haredi communities over the past year is rooted in the fight between [many] Gerrer hasidim and the Sicarii [group] for control of valuable Mea Shearim real estate."...Even so, the two warring groups united to attack their common enemy – the police. That led to the arrests made this week.
Guest: These statements imply to me that Rosenberg disagrees with Ben-Ruby.
Posted by: anti-agenda arguments | December 01, 2011 at 01:44 PM
Admittedly there is a always a few good apples in every barrel of rotten ones.
Posted by: nor | December 01, 2011 at 01:56 PM
I'm not paranoid. I'm not haredi, dear. But Shmarya is definitely out to "prove" that all haredim are thugs, child rapists, thieves, etc.
Posted by: Guest
he never ever said that all that all he said that there is these issues in the frunm community and the leaders and the followers do not want to admit it and or deal with the problem.
and if they do, they give more and more ridiculous excuses for the behavior
Posted by: seymour | December 01, 2011 at 02:16 PM
This is obviously bullshit. Everyone knows that every single haredi ia a rapist, a murderer, a violent thug, a thief. EVERY ONE OF THEM. I mean, that's what I read here on FM.
And if you even think of trying to tell Shmarya that most haredim are not like that, you are intellectually dishonest, the tree stump is smarter than you, you are an unmitigated fool, and you get your information from Glenn Beck. Please.
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Yes, well, just like we ask of Muslims, where are the "good" ones when the extremists are committing violent actions? Why aren't the "good" ones speaking out and acting against these evildoers?
Posted by: Dovit | December 01, 2011 at 04:15 PM
Yes, well, just like we ask of Muslims, where are the "good" ones when the extremists are committing violent actions? Why aren't the "good" ones speaking out and acting against these evildoers?
Posted by: Dovit | December 01, 2011 at 04:15 PM
Idiot. They do. Have you ever glanced at The Yeshiva World. Have you ever read Bechadrei Charedim? Do you have a clue what is going on?
Or you get all your information from Failed Messiah, where it seems that every haredi agrees with this?
Do you really think that Shmarya reports on when the haredim protest against the extremists?
For example, these past few months, the haredim and the Eidah (the supposedly "extremist" haredim) have been protesting and banning the Taliban veil. Shmarya had ONE story on it, after being repeatedly told about it. If you would have read the Yeshiva World News, you would have known and heard about it constantly.
Bechadrei Charedim had a story on it virtually EVERY DAY. But you wouldn't know about it from reading Failed Messiah.
Posted by: Guest | December 01, 2011 at 04:26 PM
The protest against veils are by the modern chassidic,off the derech individual husbands of the veiled women. They are too modern to marry a chareidi normal girl,so they settle for a baalas tsuvah who is sincere about her faith. Soon after marriage the poor girl finds out she married a bum who does not go to shul and his head is in the movies. She did not realize that wearing a streimel and beard and the whole get up is meaningless. Now these modern chassidic bums cry to their families that the girl is wierd. Had they married their own kind who shaves her head,the same story would happen but the community could not classify the shaven headed wives as wierd because the whole community shaves their heads. These bums should marry female bumichkas not sincere veiled women.
Posted by: JPACNYC.BLOGSPOT.COM | December 01, 2011 at 05:58 PM
Guest-Do you really think that Shmarya reports on when the haredim protest against the extremists?
why dont you open youre own blogs site and write there about those that hate hareidim maybee youre barking here so much is an exercise futility, you hate so much shmarya go and open youre own site di fershteist yiddish.
Posted by: jancsipista | December 01, 2011 at 05:59 PM
Idiot. They do. Have you ever glanced at The Yeshiva World. Have you ever read Bechadrei Charedim? Do you have a clue what is going on?
Commenting anonymously on a blog and speaking out in public are two entirely different things.
Posted by: Jeff | December 01, 2011 at 07:22 PM
the sad fact is,Shmaryah ''yemach shemo''
is a self hating jew hating NAZI bastard,
had he lived 68 years ago,he would have been the chief KAPO in Auschwitz,and with a smile on his dirty face he would have sent his brothers and sisters into the gas chambers,this blog should change it's name to DIE STURMER,
hey Shmarya,you dirty filthy pig,Julius Streicher would have been proud of you
Posted by: Shmaryah is a dirty filthy NAZI bastard | December 01, 2011 at 08:00 PM
I think that since the Eidah and the Sikrikim are from the old yishiv and before the treifah medinah, the police cannot enforce laws on them!
Posted by: chussid | December 01, 2011 at 08:37 PM
chussid- what boggles my mind why in the world would any chussid live in a treifene medine there must be something wrong here maybee you can answer it for me.
Posted by: jancsipista | December 01, 2011 at 08:53 PM
Lot's of kudos to the Jerusalem Police !
Posted by: Adam Neira | December 01, 2011 at 09:49 PM
Jeff - I think guest meant that the yeshiva world reports how the rabbis speak out against these extremists. I know guest is right about that, cuz I read the yeshiva world website. All u hear about is that the rabbis are speaking out against the extremists
Posted by: drudge | December 01, 2011 at 10:30 PM
Shmarya masturbates to a picture of hitler with the mustache
Posted by: drudge | December 01, 2011 at 10:38 PM
To Drudge,
Take your nasty comments elsewhere.
Posted by: Adam Neira | December 01, 2011 at 10:42 PM
I think guest meant that the yeshiva world reports how the rabbis speak out against these extremists. I know guest is right about that, cuz I read the yeshiva world website. All u hear about is that the rabbis are speaking out against the extremists
Posted by: drudge | December 01, 2011 at 10:30 PM
The problem is that Guest is very dishonest. Some of the same rabbis were DEFENDING the burka cult women last year.
And the rabbis currently condemning the cult do not include every Eidah rabbi who previously backed it.
Posted by: Shmarya | December 01, 2011 at 11:48 PM
Yes not every Rabbi is condemning the veiled women because the complaints coming from husbands who are dressed up as Chassidim but inside are not. This causes conflict in any marriage. The ladies in veils are harmless.
Posted by: JPACNYC.BLOGSPOT.COM | December 02, 2011 at 02:40 AM
because the complaints coming from husbands who are dressed up as Chassidim but inside are not.
You mean like you?
Posted by: Jeff | December 02, 2011 at 05:06 AM
Drudge, and moron using Shmarya's name, please go away.
Posted by: Mikal W. Grass | December 02, 2011 at 09:16 AM
Hm.. despite all the silly Haredi attitudes... it looks so-o aesthetically pleasing! Burning barricades, trowing rocks etc.
I hope those guys will abandon the Haredi ghetto and join the militant revolutionary Left, like some of their forefathers did 100 years ago. The Sikarii are, perhaps, more likely to do so, as they are anti-Zionists and reject already at least one element of imperialist politics.
Fuck the police, smash the state, leave the ghetto! :-)
Posted by: R A T M | December 08, 2011 at 04:39 PM