Exclusive: Hasidic Magazine Blots Out Faces Of Gentiles

The move closely follows the publication of a hasidic textbook claiming Jews should hate all gentiles.

An image from the December 2011 Der Blitz. The sign in Hebrew reads "Goy Shel Shabbat," which means "Shabbos goy," a gentile who will do labor for a Jew on the Jewish Sabbath that is forbidden for the Jew to do himself. The story is about an Arab who works as a "Shabbos goy."

Originally published at 3:40 pm Sunday 12-4-2011

Exclusive: Hasidic Magazine Blots Out Faces Of Gentiles
The move closely follows the publication of a hasidic textbook claiming Jews should hate all gentiles
Shmarya Rosenberg • FailedMessiah.com

Are gentiles evil? Are Jews forbidden to look at their faces?

Last week, FailedMessiah.com exclusively reported that a Skvere hasidic rabbi based in New Square, New York had recently published Yalkut Shaiylos u'Teshuvos, a book of questions asked by young Skvere yeshiva students and the answers to those questions given by Skvere rabbis. The book carries the endorsement of several prominent Skvere hasidic rabbis, including the Skvere Rebbe himself.

The book says that Jews are required to hate all gentiles, and it explains that gentiles don't do any real good, and that their presence in the world pollutes it.

The book also notes that Jews should not focus on the faces of gentiles:

…[O]ne is not to concentrate on the face of a gentile. As the [author of the book] Arvei Nahal writes on the Talmudic passage, “it is forbidden to look upon the face of an evildoer,” because the other side [the devil, the sitra achra] cloaks himself in the guise of an evildoer and it is a danger to look at him. This passage refers to a Jew who has, God forbid, become an evildoer. Certainly, beyond any doubt, a gentile whose whole nature is essentially evil, looking at his appearance is defiling.

In the Kitzur Shulkhan Arukh [the Abridged Code of Jewish Law] it states that if one sees beautiful creatures, even a gentile, one makes a blessing [to thank God for creating that beautiful animal or person]. The Kitzur Shulkhan Arukh [the Abridged Code of jewish Law] adds this is only if one caught a casual glimpse, however concentrating on a gentile is forbidden. [This qualification is missing from the standard English language translation of the Kitzur Shulkhan Arukh but it appears in the Hebrew original.]

Once, in middle of the night, [the author of the book] the Arugot Haboshem sent a messenger to his son, [the author of the book] the Vayagid Yaakov, requesting he should immediately come over. He quickly came running and [the author of the book] the Arugot Haboshem looked at him [for a moment] and told him he can now leave. He only called upon him since a gentile doctor was there earlier and he didn’t want that the last thing he sees before he sleeps to be a gentile, so he called him only to take a look at him [i.e., the author of the Arugot Haboshem had his son come to visit late at night but dismissed him after looking at him for a brief moment, telling his son that a gentile had been in the house and that he did not want to go to sleep with a gentile being the last human being he had seen that day, so he called his son and had him run over to be looked at].…

Now a hasidic monthly magazine, Der Blitz, based in the Borough Park neighborhood of Brooklyn, New York and distributed in haredi neighborhoods throughout the city, in upstate New York and in Lakewood, New Jersey, has begun blotting out the faces of non-Jews in the photographs it publishes.

Here are a few examples from the December issue. First are the pictures themselves. They're followed by larger scans of the pictures and text so you can see them in context:

Related Post: Exclusive – Hate All Non-Jews, Skvere Rabbis Say.

Comments

[shoingenig]

theese mindless morons are trying with all their might to bring on antisemitism as we have never seent it before what is the purpose other then begging to be hated by nonjews.

[p]

Looks like they are blocking out all faces. Even the tiger's face appears to be blocked with that orange circle. I don't quite know what to make of this. Maybe all faces that are not hidden behind a beard is being blocked whether it be male, female or animal.

[seymour]

then these people are the first on line to claim antisemitism

[Robert Wisler]

And when Julius Streicher did the same thing to photos of Jewish faces, we were shocked by the rabidness of his anti-Semitism. The hareidi Jews of today bespeak their ignorance and lack of Torah knowledge with meaningless edicts and foolishness.

For example, the "Skvere rebbe" Twerski is one of the most ignorant-of-Torah fools that I've ever had the misfortune of hearing. Instead of living a humble life devoted to Torah and his community, he spends all of his mental energies cooking up dishonest schemes in order to live outside of U.S. and New York law.

[SkepticalYid]

@ p: the tiger's face isn't blocked. Enlarge the photo and you'll see it quite clearly.

[p]

@ p: the tiger's face isn't blocked. Enlarge the photo and you'll see it quite clearly.

Posted by: SkepticalYid | December 04, 2011 at 04:26 PM

I see the same orange circle over the tiger's nose as the one over the medic's face.

[Shmarya]

I see the same orange circle over the tiger's nose as the one over the medic's face.

Posted by: p | December 04, 2011 at 04:45 PM

You either need to get your eyes checked or, as you have been so many times previously, you're being disingenuous.

[seymour]

Posted by: Robert Wisler | December 04, 2011 at 04:18 PM

this morons are the cause of much antisemitism or at the very list give hight octane fuel to that cause

[Steven]

Let's see: Non-Jewish men with elbows exposed may appear in pictures but have their faces obscured. Non-Jewish men are to be abhorred and pollute the world. Women must wear shirts covering elbows. Women get Photoshopped completely out of pictures. Therefore, women are __________ (fill in the blank).

[Cohen]

Afraid of exciting the libido of the haredi women!

By the way, when I was in Ner Yisrael in the early 1990s the hanhala tasked the ugly female sectetary with the odd job of going through all the textbooks before the school year and placing an opaque white sticker over all the women, not just their faces.

[WoolSilkCotton]

The tiger on the right has an orange snout. It's not a circle over his nose.

http://animals.nationalgeographic.com/animals/mammals/
bengal-tiger/

The frumma have a story about a tiger that needed surgery, was tranquilized with a dart gun (photo on right) in Texas, then transferred to Florida, then the photo on the left is the tiger under anesthesia (that's a breathing tube in the foreground), being operated on by a veterinarian.

I tried my best to read the story and see what kind of surgery it is, but I can't seem to figure it out. Can anyone help me out?

[maven]

I'm worried less about anti-semitism than about an internal destruction of Torah Jewry.

[drudge]

The antisemitism that is beginning in america right now has to do with the jews on wall st. There are no haredim on wall st. That means two things: 1 - the antisemitism is caused by secular jews (whatever they are doing on wall st that caused e/o to hate them) and 2 - the antisemitism will manifest itself against all jews, haredi and secular. Get ready for the ride, and thank you shmarya for egging it on. As I've said, shmarya masturbates to a picture of hitler with the mustache. I stand by that.

[ad]

May be these "morons" have been the cause of anti-semitism in the past. One wouldn't have a very fond view of Jews if those Jews you met treated you with contempt and disregard.

As for Jews being "special" or "chosen" when Jews don't have to shit, piss, fart, belch, eat, or die, then I might say they are something different.

[different dave]

Maybe these people didn't want to appear in the publication, but heaven forbid if that were true

[shoingenig]

drudge - youre a mentally disturbed animal for writing the way you do, you really show youre true face with this hitler comparison you are the lowest of the low

[Yosef ben Matitya]

though some of them know hebrew, (most are illiterate) and they borrow heavily from the jews, hassidim are not jews. wicked sorcerers is a better description.
those who recognise them as jews, are not much better than them!

[Deremes]

Perhaps some quotes not from skever but from one of your biggest heroes
I am sure many of the failed messianics will agree with the following quotes:
"I sought to solve the Jewish dilemma with the help of the catholic church with the help of the clergy to gain an audience with the pope in order to tell him ''aid us against anti-anti-semitism and and ill start a colossal movement of Jews who will convert freely and proudly to Christianity"

"Christian priest are of the highest stature because they crave not wealth"
"Simple Christians are superior to the Jewish ministers"
"The wealthy Jews control the world"
"Indeed anti-antisemitism a powerful and deep rooted strength of mass sub conscious will not harm the Jews, i find it helped build the Jewish character"

Guess who wrote it?

[David]

Oy vey! What are they doing showing images of non-kosher animals (the tiger)?

[Jeff]

Posted by: Deremes | December 04, 2011 at 05:46 PM

Your stupidity is beyond human belief. Go back into your ghetto and inbreed yourself into oblivion.

[Whatsa matta you]

The NY Times should have done the readership a favor & blotted out Scotty's oversized derrière.

[Whatsa matta you]

Wisler, are you whistlin' Dixie with the Klan? Streicher caricatured Jews with big shnozzolas. When did Nazi propaganda obscure their faces?

[WoolSilkCotton]

Didn't the Rebbe say that Jewish children should not see pictures nor have toys of nonkosher animals?

It always amuses me how the most retarded frumma commentators give themselves nicknames from right-wing radio or Faux News.

[WoolSilkCotton]

++Whatsa matta you | December 04, 2011 at 06:11 PM++

Distorting Jewish faces or obscuring them- is that a big difference to you?

[adams]

It doesn't matter if this sick policy leads to anti semitism or not, it needs to be stopped.

So it's good that FM has publicized it, they must stop this sick publishing process.

[Whatsa matta you]

Distorting is obviously worse. The point is that I don't believe Wisler has the facts on his side, that he is distorting them to make
the Hasids look worse.

[WoolSilkCotton]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Entartete_musik_poster.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Degenerate_art

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Ausstellung_
entartete_kunst_1937.jpg

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Bundesarchiv_Bild_
146-1974-020-13A,_Salzburg,_Ausstellung_%22Entartete_Kunst%22,_
Werbung.jpg

So tell me, Whatsa matta you, how do the frumma feel about modern art?

[WoolSilkCotton]

Making the Hasids look worse? Is that possible?

[Whatsa matta you]

Sorry to hear that WoolSilk is so unsettled by the mention of Right leaning personalities. Could someone please do the poor guy a favor and switch their screen name to Rahmbo Emmanuel or Maxine Waters?

[WoolSilkCotton]

http://www.bartcop.com/nazigop.htm

[seymour]

Posted by: drudge | December 04, 2011 at 05:17 PM

a few have posted prove that the wall street protesters are not antisemitic

ps that one sign you saw is a guy who wlaks around with that for a long time

[WoolSilkCotton]

Seymour,

The republicans, Fox News, and the frumma continue to fear and hate the Occupy Wall Street group.

They know the power the OWS movement has to galvanize the Democratic base as well as ordinary citizens who are fed up with being screwed by the Wall Street vultures who the government handed over billions to bail out, and yet those vultures laughed all the way to the bank as they gave themselves record bonuses for screwing America.

[who knows]

It looks like some of the edited out faces are of Jewish man with payos (look at the first picture). Is it possible that this magazine simply blot out all faces regardless whether they are Jewish on non-Jewish?

[WoolSilkCotton]

Who Knows, look at the caption. He's not Jewish. He advertises himself as a Shabbos Goy, looking for work.

[Dovid]

the first picture is of the Shabbos Goy-did you not read that?

[Waiting4Moshiach]

Maybe they blot out the faces of the shabbos goy to protect him? Maybe this is a sign of respect?

I think the rabbenim are really tryingn to prevent problems and not make them. Every upper west side secular Jew who ever married a shiksa or a shagetz had to first look at her face. That is where it all begins. A secular sees the face, the yetzer horah says isnt this pretty, then they talk, then they dance, then they are raising X children instead of kinder. Sometimes they marry in front of idols. What they know in new square is that what you dont look at you dont see and it does not tempt you. Like hiding wine from the Irish. You are doing him a favor.

We should not be so quick to judge what they are doing in another kehilla. More torah is always better than less, and it helps bring us closer to the day when every cell phone in the world will ring with the news that Moshiach has been revealed. And you can be sure that when that day comes, the goyim will fight eachother for the chance to work as a shabbos goy for us and they will always be looking down never at us so this prohibition will be handled by the goyim themselves.

[Whatsa matta you]

I dont like Skver but Scotty has a weak case here. I think he chooses to ignore that there are legal issues about showing someone's image without permission

[seymour]

I dont like Skver but Scotty has a weak case here. I think he chooses to ignore that there are legal issues about showing someone's image without permission

Posted by: Whatsa matta you | December 04, 2011 at 08:01 PM

yep because the chassideim really respect USa laws LOL

[Adam Neira]

They're nuts.

If they ran the Louvre, they would white out the face of the Mona Lisa !

[seymour]

And you can be sure that when that day comes, the goyim will fight eachother for the chance to work as a shabbos goy for us and they will always be looking down never at us so this prohibition will be handled by the goyim themselves

Posted by: Ugg boot on sale | December 04, 2011 at 08:01 PM

amazing that some frummas sound exactly like the most vile antisemitic people around. The only difference is who is on top who is on bottom other than that they books are the same

just switch aryan to jews and Jews to goyim and their one can reprint almost any antisimic book and say skver sefer

[SkepticalYid]

@Adam Neira- they'd probably burn it.

[Whatsa matta you]

Smart arse Seymour, it's not a question so much of law but of liability and judgement should they get sued. Not everyone is judgement proofed like Scotty who has no assets besides his Everlast punching bag.

[WoolSilkCotton]

Adam Neira, I would LOL, but sadly, you are correct.

Shmarya, can our psychotic friend Waiting4Moshiach change his name to Ugg boot on sale?

[WoolSilkCotton]

Yeah, the frumma are really worried about getting sued by some random police, soldiers, a tiger's doctor, and a criminal in an orange jumpsuit.

[seymour]

Smart arse Seymour, it's not a question so much of law but of liability and judgement should they get sued. Not everyone is judgement proofed like Scotty who has no assets besides his Everlast punching bag.

Posted by: Whatsa matta you | December 04, 2011 at 08:31 PM

I am a smart ass

if what you say it true every single newspaper magazine would block almost every picture.

I see picture of OWs do you think all the newspapers had lawyers there and making sure everybody in the photo signed a release?

what you say is pure stupidity

and i am sure you know that

[Whatsa matta you]

There is a perfectly logical explanation. Forget the criminal, it says in halakha not to look in a criminal's face and it doesn't matter if it is a gentile or someone in a Rebbe's topcoat & hat. Plenty of people have sued INCLUDING soldiers. Do you remember Paul Hardcastle's hit song "19"? He was sued by the soldier depicted in the video.

The only thing that's laughable is Seymour trying to bring proof from the Occupy fruitcakes, who like Scotty, don't have a penny to their names if they get sued.

[FirstGenerationBavarianAmerican]

Bellevue, 28th Street and First Avenue.

[seymour]

The only thing that's laughable is Seymour trying to bring proof from the Occupy fruitcakes, who like Scotty, don't have a penny to their names if they get sued.

Posted by: Whatsa matta you | December 04, 2011 at 08:49 PM
again you are a fool

there where many people as a matter of fact in the newspapers that where teachers, union workers and many other people with money

and yes their faces where in the newspapers

Is the only way you can make your point is by just making up lies

nothing new to apologist for frum idiotic behavior

interesting halacha

how come then they do not blot the fave of SMR, Spinka rebbie, the Syrian rebbie who get caught in the money laundering schema and many other frum criminals?

[Steven]

My guess is that Der Blitz has less to worry about using someone's likeness in their magazine than by being sued by the photographers who own the copyrights to the pictures.

[drudge]

Hey seymour. If you take out the word frumma from every sentence you utter and substitute the word black instead, you'd be as big a racist as the KKK and the worst white supremacists.

So instead of worrying about substituting shabbos goy and aryan, worry abour your own words. You are no different than the racists.

and why is it suddenly our business what someone does in their private newspapers? They're not hurting you. Just like you hate when the frumma impose their religion on you, why are you imposing your religion on them. If they want to blot out the goyim, let them. They're not hurting you. Why impose your beliefs on others?

Hypocrites, as usual. All of you. But you're too stupis and intellectually dishonest to get it. As usual.

[Whatsa matta you]

You can stand there all you want stomping your feet like babies & spewing anti-frummie poison. You either know squat about legal matters or are lying yourselves. Of course most people don't sue but it doesn't mean that some arent over cautious in case they get sued. When UOJ posted a picture of a molester enabling official of Young Israel, Google started preparing to shut down his blog in response to a lawsuit. Its no cooncidence that YI's lawyer is America's top expert on intellectual property. The enabler is Steve Mostofsky. The IP expert is Marty Samson Esq.

[seymour]

Posted by: drudge | December 04, 2011 at 09:40 PM

of course you are hurting every single Jew by your and your cohorts stupid actions and making Jews look like backwards racists

criticizing frum people or communities actions is not racist that is a mistake many frum make when they do not have any answer to peoples criticism and use that argument.

most if not all of the criticism on this board is actions alone. and not just hey look at that frum guy lets stone him , lets make fun of him because he is a religious Jews. Do you see that here? No, it is stupid actions whether, blotting the faces out of goyim, defending ganovin as if they are holy people, that is not racist

if you want to blot a face of a certain person with a reason i may think that is stupid but would not condemn it blotting out every single goy just because they are a goy is different

and you cannot see a difference then you have more problem than just being a racist or an idiot

[Whatsa matta you]

Or at least Samson is the IP expert as it relates to the Internet.

[seymour]

Posted by: Whatsa matta you | December 04, 2011 at 09:50 PM

dream on, I am sure that is the reason.

cannot see a difference of posting a picture of an alleged molester and a doctor helping a tiger.

why is it then that only this magazine does, and they the only smart ones in the whole word than know that they can be sues (of course they cannot)

[Whatsa matta you]

Seymour, I can't point right now to something you wrote but I have seen WoolSilk & others ridicule religious garb.

Eh! You guys gotta no respect, ah shuttup you face!

[anuran]

p, you're a fucking liar. It really is that simple and so obvious that no honest argument is possible.

[Hometown Postville]

Then why did G-d make gentiles?

[Whatsa matta you]

Whats the diff if the doc's helping a tiger or a pedophile? Artists have been been sued fOr painting random citizens

But hey, don't get overconfused by the facts when you live to bash frummies

[seymour]

Posted by: Whatsa matta you | December 04, 2011 at 10:11 PM

an artist painting a picture of a citizen and then selling it yes can be sued that is different then reporting a news story and showing picture about the story

[seymour]

Eh! You guys gotta no respect, ah shuttup you face!

Posted by: Whatsa matta you | December 04, 2011 at 10:02 PM

making fun is different than condemning actions

i am sure in you daily live you never made fun of other people dress.

[seymour]

Then why did G-d make gentiles?

Posted by: Hometown Postville | December 04, 2011 at 10:04 PM

so you can have a mizvha by blotting them out

see how good he is

[tonda]

Just out of curiosity, has anyone asked the paper for an explanation of the policy?

I'm just wondering because it couldn't be half as amusing as some of the stuff written here. And compared to some of the things written here, it probobly makes more sense.

OK, forget I wrote any of that. It will probobly make no sense at all. But it would still be fun to ask.

[who knows]

I don't believe it.

These pictures are shown without context. It might be that blotting out is not because the people are gentile, but for other reasons.

In all the haredi publications that I've seen gentile and Jewish men are shown. This looks like a misunderstaning on part of Shmaryah.

[Gevezener Chusid]

These people are getting more and more bizarre with every passing day.

Arugot Haboshem should be Habosem (it's a Sin, not a Shin). It is the same word as besamim, spices.

[Gevezener Chusid]

I wonder if there is not some other reason why they are blocking the faces. One reason I can think of is that you're not allowed to publish someone's photo without his written permission .

[p]

The tiger on the right has an orange snout. It's not a circle over his nose.

You are right. Shows you how much I know of tigers. I thought its nose would be black like dogs. The fact that the size shape and color of the "nose" looked like the blotted face of the medic didn't help.

[Shmarya]

I dont like Skver but Scotty has a weak case here. I think he chooses to ignore that there are legal issues about showing someone's image without permission

Posted by: Whatsa matta you | December 04, 2011 at 08:01 PM

I and many others realize you're not the brightest or most honest bulb on the blog, by far.

So let me help your tint, bigoted, addled brain out.

Der Blitz isn't taking these pictures itself.

Der Blitz is buying them from a news service or from the local publication that originally did the story.

All of those pictures have been previously published elsewhere.

As for you, you're dumb as ever, and equally bad at hiding your identity.

You know what this means.

Do it.

[Nachum]

Thought you might be interested in this...today's Yisrael Hayom reports that Sandra Samuel, Moshe Holzberg's nanny, is going home to India. Apparently, Moshe is now in school, and they don't allow the kids to be taken care of by non-Jews. There was also mention that the two sides have settled the argument as to where he would be raised.

[p]

Der Blitz is buying them from a news service or from the local publication that originally did the story.

All of those pictures have been previously published elsewhere.

They bought the pictures? Does that mean that you had to pay Der Blitz to use pictures here? AT what point do you have to pay and at what point can you use freely?

[Jeff]

Posted by: Whatsa matta you | December 04, 2011 at 06:28 PM

You're neither amusing, nor insightful, nor original.

You're terrified Shmarya is right, that your world is as foul as he says it is, and your denigration of him in every comment is a pathetic attempt to invalidate him, to convince yourself he's wrong so you can cling to the security blanket a while longer.

[Jeff]

Hypocrites, as usual. All of you. But you're too stupis and intellectually dishonest to get it. As usual.

Posted by: drudge | December 04, 2011 at 09:40 PM

Drudge, go grab one of those censored dictionaries we were talking about the other day and see if they left in the entry for "irony".

[Proton Soup]

as offensive as this is, i think it may be a good thing. over the last few months and years, i've just been getting more and more appalled at the complete lack of sensitivity to anti-gentilism in the jewish community. even the most liberal, secularized jewish people seem to have an innate ability to marginalize such sentiments, or write it off as something harmless. but now we have an inbred, redneck community that suddenly feels enough immunity to criticism to just let it all hang out, and release their contempt for all the rest of humanity like some supremacist Otto the Nazirene.
http://notmytribe.com/2009/zionists-censor-life-of-brian-final-cut-812015.html

please, don't stop. never mind that cliff on the horizon. as enlightened as you are, you will surely float.

[Lets not jump to conclusions...]

Maybe they are doing it for legal reasons -- i.e., they didn't get clearance to use the images/people. Perhaps they were sued once and after being burned are now extra cautious.

Also are you sure that all the faces are of Goyim? Jews can't be cops, soldiers or tigers?

and Also, if I was an arab working as a shabbos goy - i might also want my face blotted out for personal safety

[David]

I wonder if this will go viral like the Clinton deletion?

[ruthie]

waiting 4 moshiach,
i want to be upset with you...you sound so stupid.
but you make me laugh....you're so stupid.
mosiach hopefully will come.
why don't you show some respect for ALL people. jewish, not jewish, black, white, gay or straight.
WHO MADE YOU G-D?????
you are probably more stupid than you look. no doubt.
you can still change....i have hope for you.
keep wishing for moshiach...all good...
but stop thinking you're so g-ddamn special.
you're not. you probably couldn't hold an intelligent conversation at a dinner table. only moshiach moshiach moshiach...
moshiach himself probably thinks you're an idiot.
take that to the bank.

[David]

Why were the faces deleted? Look at the pictures. What do they have in common? Every single picture represents either a person at work, or seeking work. The faces were deleted because images of a working person are deeply offensive to most frumma, even though these are the very people working hard to pay taxes to support the frumma! Go figure.

[ultra haredi lite]

Frumma are just soo...
loathesome
contemptible
useless
subhuman
inbred
......

[ruthie]

WAITING 4 MOSHIACH.
this is for you......
article in today's paper....
they met for the first time 66 years ago in a hell on earth called buchenwald.
rick carrier was a U.S. army corporal, utterly stunned by the sight of living skeletons crammed inside the nazi death camp.
irving roth was one of those skeletons, a starving 16-year-old jewish prisoner.
but Roth's strongest memory of that fateful day in april 1945 is not of carrier but of the african-american soldier who handed out
chocolate.
"i had never seen a black person before," roth said. "i tell people you may not know what the messiah looks like, but i do.
one is black and one is white."
g-d bless the kind black soldier and all the americans who liberated us.

[David]

Frumma are just soo...
loathesome
contemptible
useless
subhuman
inbred
......

Posted by: ultra haredi lite | December 05, 2011 at 05:44 AM

They don't have to be though. They just need to follow Halacha like most of the rest of us try to do, and they need to do away with that Goyishe clothing of our enemies of 200-300 yrs ago! And concentrate on the big mitzvot of how to deal with your fellow man in an honest and ethical manner and not the small stuff like the correct way to brush a strawberry to ensure there are no imaginary bugs on it or the "prohibition" of wearing blue shirts!

[different dave]

isn't it great when worm like Shamarya, constantly attacks peoples intelligence when the G-d forbid they don't agree with his bullshit!!!!

[WoolSilkCotton]

When you live in the Jewland Ghetto, sealed off from that foreign land surrounding you that everyone else calls America, you live in a system where criticizing the rules is forbidden. Anyone daring to criticize your crazy rules, such as wearing heavy winter Polish clothing from 1800 in the middle of summer in the USA in 2011, is to be condemned and declared an enemy. Violence against such critics is also allowed.

Those of you who were razed and still live in those frumma ghettos simply cannot deal with anyone criticizing you. You also go nuts when anyone even makes a joke about your idiotic habits.

Your frumma education only allows you to memorize discussions in the Talmud from over a thousand years ago. No new thinking, and certainly no criticizing, is allowed. Memorizing the details of bird sacrifices from 2000 years ago is more important to you frumma than learning not to cheat on a loan application.
That is why you frumma have such a hard time dealing with FailedMessiah.

[Waiting4Moshiach]

Nebech, the secular is not happy unless he can look at a goys face and see him smiling back. Maybe if they spent more time with their face buried in a gemorah learning and less time starring at a goy Mosiach would be here already and the goyim would stop cellebrating yoshka punriks birthday. and no worry, when Moshiach comes our merchants will find other ways of making a living besides selling Xmassss junk to the goyim.

[Jeff]

Frumma are just soo...
loathesome
contemptible
useless
subhuman
inbred
......

Posted by: ultra haredi lite | December 05, 2011 at 05:44 AM

Well, four outa five...

[Jeff]

isn't it great when worm like Shamarya, constantly attacks peoples intelligence when the G-d forbid they don't agree with his bullshit!!!!

Posted by: different dave | December 05, 2011 at 07:27 AM

See people, here's the thing - if you put a lot of exclamation points after a statement, that makes it true.

For example:

If you put a lot of exclamation points after a statement, that makes it true!!!!

See?

It works even better if you use all caps:

IF YOU PUT A LOT OF EXCLAMATION POINTS AFTER A STATEMENT, THAT MAKES IT TRUE!!!!

But that's generally more of an evangelical thing.

In addition, resident psychotic WrongJew has hit upon his own formula - if you bold everything, that makes it true:

If you put a lot of exclamation points after a statement, that makes it true!!!!

Of course, there's my favorite, which is the old standby - if you say something over and over, with absolutely no evidence or basis in reality, no matter how many times you've been corrected or had your arguments disproveN - that makes it true!

Oh, sorry:

THAT MAKES IT TRUE!!!!!!!!!

[jancsipista]

Whatsa matta you- the payes is a fallic symbol if you cant see that then youre lost, a fallic is as you know the male genitilia so most of youre hassidishe haverim are dick heads case closed.

[Shlomo]

This is really awesome. The end of the zionist supremacist era is coming to an end a lot faster than I thought.

[Alter Kocker]

Wating4Moshiach: It is amazing that your satire mimics exactly the rantings of many of my frum acquaintances. What you are saying publicly, I have heard privately.

Making light of this latest outrage does us no good. The Ultra-Orthodox lobby, if you will, are the Jewish peoples' worst enemy. They are driving a move toward anti-semitism, and only stand to profit from it. This must end.

[ruthie]

waiting4moshiach...
i have a new name for you...
reb scrooge

[Jeff]

This is really awesome. The end of the zionist supremacist era is coming to an end a lot faster than I thought.

Posted by: Shlomo | December 05, 2011 at 08:21 AM

Doesn't matter. You people will have inbred yourselves into oblivion by then.

[Bench Kvetcher]

Do they blot out all the faces in their porn stash?

[ruthie]

jancsipista...
pardon, i think payes are beautiful.
kind of like jewish dreadlocks. really nice.

[jancsipista]

ruthie- thats because youre a female:)

[jancsipista]

Shlomo-ye and the ultra orthodox are dragging us into the abyss with their absolute insane dictatorial maniakle stupidity, as the saying goes united we stand devided we fall and they the ultras are tottaly fragmented into a billion pieces.

[Yochanan Lavie]

Apologies to the Beatles (I've just seen a face):

I've obscene a face,
I can't forget the time or place
That it's been snuffed, he's just the Goy for me
And I want all the world to see I'm frum
Mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm mmm mmm

Had it been a female dame
I might have looked the other way
But I had never been aware
And as it is the gentiles I will fight
La, di, di, da di di

Failing, yes I am failing
And Shmarya's flailing my back again

I have never known
A life of bliss, I've been alone
And I have missed things and kept out of sight
But other Goys were never quite like this
Mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm mmm mmm

Failing, yes I am failing
And Shmarya's flailing my back again

I've obscene a face,
I can't forget the time or place
That it's been snuffed, he's just the Goy for me
And I want all the world to see I'm frum
Mmm, mmm, mmm, oy oy oy

Failing, yes I am failing
And Shmarya's flailing my back again

[tonda]

jancsipista, this is something I've said about Judiasm for a long time. As much as I'm not a fan of corporate religion, the catholic church does have something that modern judiasm seems to need. A heirarchy with one person in charge.

With the Vatican/Pope at the top making policy and pronouncements for the entire (mostly) christian world, when cults and sects get too far off the map, the Church can disavow and speak against them. In theory this works fine.

Jews seem however, to have spintered off into so many groups that every Rabbi speaks independantly, and no matter how outrageous somethign is, most other Rabbis will not speak against him, or if they do, they are drowned out by even louder and more ourageous ones.

A single unified (official) voice on issues like this would cure a lot of ills.

[jancsipista]

tonda- theese ultras hate zionism with a vengence at least they are the zionists speaking with one voice but theese fanatics are a tottal joke they lost all their credibility they are always bickering with one another trying to outdo one another in stupidity to me they are mocking jewdeism while making a fool of themselfs in the proccess

[Office of the Chief Rabbi]

Real nice, YL!
Happens to be the Beatles' great bluegrass tune.

[Korbendallas72]

The Vilna Gaon was right. This will get worse and worse until people start physically rebelling. This is what the Haredim have made necessary. We are going to have to strip them of their Judaism and fight them. This is the opposite of "Light Among the Nations". These troglodytes aren't even a light among Klal Yisroel.

This has gone too far. Hitlery Klinton is right, Israel is becoming undemocratic because of these haredi pigs. We're going to have to fight them. There is another Jewish Civil War coming because these ignorant shitbags drank the koolaid.

Not Jewish. Not human. Disposable.

[Deremes]

Besides that many think that its foolish,
Is anyone being hurt by blotting the pictures?
Is it against the law?
Is it discrimination?

Its an insular haredi publication and as many other haredi newspapers they write stuff that its not meant for non-haredi Jews and i bet you can take entire haredi papers weekly and take it apart how offensive it is to the outside world. But who really cares. So why would an outside interloper care what they do if not to cause anti-semitisim.

Same goes with the Skvere publication.
They are being singled out on FM to show the world what they teach their kids.
The Torah,Talmud,rishoniem and achronim is full of how Jews are different then gentiles.Certain Jewish laws applies only one Jew to another where they can benefit from each others and not a Jew to a gentile.
For generations Jews suffered from Meshumuadim and informers yemach shemom vezicrom who went to the authorities to tell them what Jews study and teach their kids and therefore they had to censor all seforim.
But this is old stuff and its not so easy these days in an advanced world to fuel antisemitism by rehashing old stuff so Skevre is being singled out and perhaps people within power will get hold of this and if skevre is not despised enough they will hate them becuase of them being Jewish and what they teach their kids.
Anyone still thinks that FM is concerned when a frum kid gets molested and is looking out for the good and the well being of frum kids? i got a bridge to sell.

[Shmarya]

Anyone still thinks that FM is concerned when a frum kid gets molested and is looking out for the good and the well being of frum kids? i got a bridge to sell.

Posted by: Deremes | December 05, 2011 at 12:18 PM

The great thing is that we all know with certainty that YOU are not at all concerned about kids being molested.

Your behavior has made that clear many times over.