Haredi Gang War Continues – Gerrer Hasid Beaten By Sicarii In Beit Shemesh
A Gerrer hasid tried to stop two Sicarii members from posting signs from Eidah Charedit condemning Gerrer violence against the Sicarii. The two haredi groups are fighting for control over the Batei Warsaw houses in Mea Shearim. Both Ger and the Sicarii are known to be exceedingly violent, and the Sicarii are often compared to the Mafia because of its extortion of Mea Shearim area businesses. The Sicarii didn't like the Gerrer hasid's intervention and they beat him so seriously that he needed to be taken to the hospital.
This isn't the most serious attack in this war between the Mea Shearim-based anti-Zionist Sicarii and Gerrer hasidim.
Less than a month ago, a gang of Gerrer hasidim 10 to 20 strong beat a Sicarii leader with clubs and iron rod so seriously that he was hospitalized in serious condition with head injuries, internal and external bleeding and broken bones.
And a few months ago a gang of Gerrer hasidim burst into the same Sicarii leader's house in Mea Shearim, doused the interior with gasoline, doused a baby with gasoline, and set the occupied house on fire. The Sicarii leader's family, however, including the baby, managed to escape.
Here are pictures of the Gerrer hasid beaten yesterday in Beit Shemesh:
Hebrew article and pictures on Behadrei Haredim.
it looks like KETCHUP.....
Posted by: Ketchup Leiberman | November 11, 2011 at 02:48 AM
Shin Bet needs to round up the terrorists.
Posted by: anuran | November 11, 2011 at 03:33 AM
This is madness!!!
No, this is SPARTA!!!!!!!!
Posted by: centrist | November 11, 2011 at 03:38 AM
obviously leiberman you never fell off a bike or somethin in your younger years and got your knees hurt.
it is most definitely blood. ouch
Posted by: centrist | November 11, 2011 at 03:40 AM
doused a baby with gasoline
Jesus Christ.
I know they're the most extreme of the extreme, but really - if anyone still thinks that world is in anyway salvagable, s/he is living in utter denial.
Posted by: Jeff | November 11, 2011 at 05:15 AM
This has got to stop, just because there are people out there that don't like the haredim, they deserve protection like any other citizen. I hope the police get on the case quickly.
The haredim have plenty of enemies in the secular world, they don't need enemies from within. In unity there is strength.
Posted by: p | November 11, 2011 at 05:52 AM
Posted by: p | November 11, 2011 at 05:52 AM
the haredim are tribal and they will have tribal warfare just like we see in Pakistan and Afghanistan
Posted by: seymour | November 11, 2011 at 07:51 AM
seymour- Maybe so, but as long as they still live in America or Israel and not Jew-land, the authorities should be arresting them for breaking the law. The fact that these wackos think they can try to kill each other with total impunity shows a severe lack of awareness, respect, fear, for secular authority. Maybe if they started going to jail for a few months or years at a time, it would start to sink in.
Posted by: Friar Yid | November 11, 2011 at 08:09 AM
Arm them both with automatic weapons. Within a few weeks there should be no problems.
Posted by: Alter Kocker | November 11, 2011 at 08:18 AM
Yet again, these people manage to give Jews a bad name. The only point I would like to make is that at least for those of us who are in fact Jewish and are aware of the different sects that exist within orthodox Judaism, do not lump all Haredim together. If I truly believed that these people were a good representation of Haredim, I would immediately become irreligious.
Posted by: Captain Obvious | November 11, 2011 at 08:25 AM
No to make light of this, it is horrible - but it does provide our resident muse to expand his parody skills into the Realm of musical theatre. You find a Miriam involved somewhere, and you have West Bank Story ......
Posted by: Rebitzman | November 11, 2011 at 08:26 AM
The fact that these wackos think they can try to kill each other with total impunity shows a severe lack of awareness, respect, fear, for secular authority. Maybe if they started going to jail for a few months or years at a time, it would start to sink in.
Posted by: Friar Yid | November 11, 2011 at 08:09 AM
Arm them both with automatic weapons. Within a few weeks there should be no problems.
Posted by: Alter Kocker | November 11, 2011 at 08:18 AM
There are "tribal issues" at play but I seriously doubt that they will cross the line and kill intentionally.
If they do we are in uncharted territory.
Posted by: p | November 11, 2011 at 08:36 AM
WABC in NY is reporting on a major SAT scandal - yeshiva kids cheating on the tests, hiring instructors to take the tests for them etc.
Posted by: ultra haredi lite | November 11, 2011 at 09:08 AM
Posted by: p | November 11, 2011 at 08:36 AM
no not at all read
Untold Tales of the Hasidim: Crisis and Discontent in the History of Hasidism (Tauber Institute Series for the Study of European Jewry)
Posted by: seymour | November 11, 2011 at 09:18 AM
p - If they're willing to douse a baby with gasoline and set it on fire they're willing to kill. Of course the fact that they're utterly incompetent at serious violence - as with pretty much everything except breeding - makes them a little less dangerous.
Posted by: anuran | November 11, 2011 at 11:27 AM
p - If they're willing to douse a baby with gasoline and set it on fire they're willing to kill.
Willing to kill and killing are two vastly different realities.
If one examines the recent wars including the Gulf. Soldiers being hurt get very little press, it is basically only the deaths that bring up the english. When ever one speaks about the tragedy of the towers, one invariably brings up the 2000+ deaths but ask almost anyone how many were injured hardly anyone knows.
I believe that the leaders will speak up and intervene if their followers actually kill other Jews. It is like the difference between taking a bullet vs dodging a bullet.
Posted by: p | November 11, 2011 at 12:10 PM
This is fully justified. The sicko in the picture is none other than Ha'rav Ha'goon Avraham Mondrowitz.
Posted by: What kind of goyishe name is Harold z"l? | November 11, 2011 at 12:29 PM
just a hoax...ketchup with a Badat"z hechsher.
Posted by: Jewish Prince | November 11, 2011 at 01:14 PM
ROUND THEM UP
Posted by: Korbendallas72 | November 11, 2011 at 01:21 PM
http://www.bhol.co.il/Article.aspx?id=34109&cat=1&scat=1
Posted by: Jewish Prince | November 11, 2011 at 01:22 PM
That is not mondrowitz. Mengele mondrowoitz has a salt and pepper beard. This guy is much younger
Posted by: fishy | November 11, 2011 at 02:41 PM
Like other instances of gang violence, allow themselves to hurt and kill eachother so we don't have to mop up their stupidity. Where are the loud and foul mouthed concert ban rabbis on this issue? How come they are deadly silent? What about levin, perlow and other such ilk? Does zweibel think these are 'outside forces', or should this also be swept under the rug? Who are these thug 'rabbis' kidding?
Posted by: Klutz In The Clutch | November 11, 2011 at 03:22 PM
This is 'blood for blood'... just like rubashkin spilled chicken blood under non kosher circumstances so too is this blood being spilled. May he and others like him drown in his own blood.
Posted by: Klutz In The Clutch | November 11, 2011 at 03:26 PM
This whole thing is against the Torah.
You cannot call them charedim if they do not follow the Torah.
These people are "charedim style", like a kosher style cafe.
(kosher style food but not actually kosher)
Until the real rabbis (are there any out there?) start saying so, then this will continue.
Posted by: BeenThereDoneThat | November 11, 2011 at 04:48 PM
It is very clearly ketchup. Notice the total lack of bruising, punctures and scraping. The fact the coloring is not the shade of blood could have been blamed on a bad camera, but not in light of the absence of any other indications of violence.
Posted by: Reality Check Required | November 12, 2011 at 12:37 PM
He's laying on a couch. Not even in the hospital. Doesn't look so bad.
And what's with the black socks? I thought these creeps all wear white socks. Why the white-out on the face? Tznius?
Posted by: WoolSilkCotton | November 12, 2011 at 02:04 PM
It just shows the corruption and hucksterism present in Hareidi life. It is obvious that Batei Warsaw were intended for Jews coming to Jerusalem from Poland, not their Israeli or American born descendants. Furthermore the practice of providing these residences has been corrupted by the need to pay 'key money'.
The Jerusalem municipality should exercise eminent domain over these buildings bearing in mind that the purpose for which they were donated for has lapsed. It is unconscionable that the Neturei Karta should be allowed to benefit from the fate suffered by Poland's Jews during the Holocaust, a fate which their ghetto ideology played a part in bringing about.
Posted by: Barry | November 13, 2011 at 06:15 AM
It's how things work. The chareidim allowed the violence genie out of the bottle and now they can't control it. Serves them right.
Posted by: dude | November 13, 2011 at 05:00 PM
let them start bombing their homes and churches.
Posted by: adams | November 13, 2011 at 08:30 PM
let them kill each other.
Posted by: jacob | November 13, 2011 at 09:21 PM
Many charedim operate with an imbalanced philosophy of life. I tried to be charedi for years and it wrecked my life. When you operate is if there's only only mitzvah, you get into trouble.
Posted by: Hal | December 09, 2011 at 09:26 AM