Chabadnik Who Fled To Israel To Be Extradited

Shmira street patrol member Yitzchak Shuchat is suspected of beating a black honors student, Andrew Charles, with a club in the Crown Heights section of Brooklyn in April 2008. He fled to Canada and from there to Israel to escape justice.

Yitzchak Shuchat

Israeli court orders extradition to US of Brooklyn man in 2008 assault in Crown Heights

JERUSALEM (AP) — An Israeli court has ordered a Brooklyn man extradited to the U.S. in connection with an April 2008 assault on a black man.

Yitzchak Shuchat is suspected of beating Andrew Charles in the Crown Heights section of Brooklyn. The area is known for 1991 race riots between Orthodox Jews and blacks.

Thursday’s extradition order cites a U.S. request over the 2008 attack, alleging an unidentified man on a bicycle sprayed Charles with mace while Shuchat stepped out of an SUV, struck Charles with a wooden club and drove off.

Shuchat fled to Canada, then to Israel in May 2008. He was indicted in the U.S. on hate crime and other charges.

Police suspected the attack followed reports that black youths had pelted neighborhood homes with rocks.

Shuchat belonged to a Jewish street patrol group, the Shmira.

[Hat Tip: Seymour.]

Comments

[Truthfully]

Rachmaus on him and his family

[seymour]

Rachmaus on him and his family

Posted by: Truthfully | November 10, 2011 at 11:43 AM

why, explain why he should not pay for his violent behavior

I forget some feel Jews should get off no matter what they do

again you cause more antisemitism then 10 madoffs

[R. Wisler]

Hopefully, he'll serve some jail time in the state prison with a large population of black inmates. Maybe he'll have some tolerance beat into him.

[chicago sam]

Chabad did not have any problem giving him asylum...how interesting...

[Yosef ben Matitya]

is shuchat and shoychet the same name? is he related to the shoychet's.

[Truthfully]

Seymour,

I guess it wasn't your child or parent.

[Maple Bacon]

Posted by: Truthfully | November 10, 2011 at 12:29 PM

Let's see, attacking an individual (no proof that the individual was one of the blacks throwing rocks at houses) then fleeing to Canada and then to Israel. If this situation were reversed, you'd be screaming anti-Semitism.

It's time to retire the "Jew card" excuse and be held accountable for your own action.

[RightJew]

Amazing how this Jew has been already tried and convicted by the self-hating Jewish Liberals here. And yet the record is very clear that there's a massive amount of Black against White/Jewish crime in the urban jungles of Obama-nation.

http://www.crownheights.info/index.php?catid=23&blogid=1

Will any Orthodox Jews be accepted as jurors at this Jew's trial, or will the NYC authorities try to avert race riots by creating a kangaroo court of all "minority" jurors? Will the accused be able to receive a fair trial in the ultra-liberal NYC regime which stands idly by while a major Jewish neighborhood is terrorized by Black thugs? I doubt it.

[SkepticalYid]

Once again.. the self-hate and liberal canard raise their pointless heads. He should be put on trial. He should be acquitted if he's innocent but he should be tried. By the way, WrongonceagainJew- Blacks are very likely to be prosecuted for attacking whites no matter how flimsy the evidence. Whites are far less likely to be prosecuted for attacking Blacks, no matter how strong the evidence. It's as unjust as a Jew being profiled by religion in the media for alleged criminal behavior. It's the truth. Deal with it.

[anuran]

Gotta love that whole "self-hating Jew" bullshit. Anyone who isn't the right sort of Jew is hates himself for being Jewish. And if he hates himself for being Jewish he must be wrong.

Yet more proof that Orthodoxy teaches reasoning skills that a high school debate team can shred without working up a sweat. And that the fallback position is character assassination, hyperbole and slander.

[Office of the Chief Rabbi]

how fast can you say "pidyon Shvuyim?"

[Fleishike Kishke]

This story goes to the tightest knot in the dysfunctional shoelace that is Lubavitch. There are two (warring) Civilian Habad patrols. One affiliated with the Announcing Rebbe is Moshiach Bunch (Shmira) the other with Keeping Quiet that Rebbe is Moshiach Group (Shomrim). Shmira has a history of “informing” against Shomrim to NYPD. The Absconder is a member of the Proud to declare in public Yechi affiliated group. Even from Israel the Absconder continued his battle with the On-the-Down-Low-Moshiach-believing Patrol making dozens (or hundreds) of calls to NYC to “inform” on violations of code and law committed by Proud-to-Declare-Rebbe-is-Moshiach Shmira members, prompting members of the Proud-to-Declare-Rebbe-is-Moshiach members to violate their code against “informing” and also inform the NYPD where the Absconder was living. I think I kept it straight. Please continue donating to Chabad. Both factions rely on your Tzedaka to keep this all afloat.

[devorah]

I found this video seems like to me its no BSS hate crime hynes is a anti semite and is trying to look good for the africian americians . What ever happened to th eguy that was with charles ? Oh sorry he has a rap sheet criminal history of violent behavior rape drugs and weapons
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnoeWWuY06A

[Phillip]

This is an example of why bail is often
refused to Jews.
Get bail and just run off to Israel and
hope for the best. At least in this case
he is being sent back.

[Chicago Sam]

The Lubavitcher Rebbe has often advised many of his followers to leave the United States and go to Israel whenever they got in serious trouble with the law.

What a Tsadik!

[seymour]

Seymour,

I guess it wasn't your child or parent.

Posted by: Truthfully | November 10, 2011 at 12:29 PM

this argument is always was frum people say whenever a yid gets arrested

I have shocking news for you

even goyim have parents children that they care deeply for

therefore, one should never ever be arrested or jailed because they are someone child, brother daughter father mother

or i assume that logic only applies to yiddin.

Justice must be blind, of course it will hurt his parents, but that can be said for every single person in jail

[state of disgust]

Speaking of extradition ---
Any word about Hosam?

[seymour]

Seymour,

I guess it wasn't your child or parent.

Posted by: Truthfully | November 10, 2011 at 12:29 PM

I guess the black who who was attacked was not your child

see how stupid your augment sounds

[Shmarya]

I found this video seems like to me its no BSS hate crime hynes is a anti semite and is trying to look good for the africian americians . What ever happened to th eguy that was with charles ? Oh sorry he has a rap sheet criminal history of violent behavior rape drugs and weapons
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnoeWWuY06A

Posted by: devorah | November 10, 2011 at 02:19 PM

Intersting.

The video you linked to has the victim telling reporters not to view the problems in Crown Heights as racial – the same position the Crown Heights Jewish community takes.

As for the man who was supposedly with the victim when the victim was attacked, even if what you write is true (and I doubt it is) what you're doing (in typical Chabad and haredi fashion) is blaming the victim for being assaulted, just like some people blame women for being raped because their skirts were too short or their blouses too tight or because they dated a lot of men.

Chabad has a long history of helping violent criminals and white collar criminals flee to Israel.

Stop trying to make up alibis for a guy who, at the very least, showed a complete disregard for US law and hid out in Israel, to boot.

[western jew]

I don't know. Does ChaBaD really tell people to go to Israel when they are criminals? Sad if true. I have not been too keen on ChaBaD of course. I have had bad experiences with a few of their elite. But of course, if you want to shine as a jew, join the ChaBaD... the lay public will bestow favor and blessings on you all year long. After all, now you are an 'orthodox jew'. And of course you can shave the corners of your scalp. Leviticus is not binding and if you dont have peyos, the rest of America and the lay public will relate to you in a positive manner as you just don't look 'different'. But alas, that is what the ChaBaD rabbis say about Leviticus rules that dictate that you do not round the corners of your scalp.
ChaBaD today! Poverty tomorrow!

[Chicago Sam]

The Chabad and the Haredi both have great contempt for the law. The Lubavitcher Rebbe himself had no problem whatsoever enabling criminals to get away with their violence and thievery. This was a simple routine, one that continues to be used even today.

When I was in yeshiva, I saw a number of these thugs in Kfar Habad Israel attack Avraham Leader, for teaching Bratzlav Hassidut to a number of students. He was stabbed in the head--of all places, on Shabbat at the study hall!

Of course, the Hassidic violence is not at all just limited to Chabad, as the recent Hassidic battle in Poland clearly illustrates.

Hasidim and Haredim seem to lack a lot of self-control.

[seymour]

Posted by: devorah | November 10, 2011 at 02:19 PM

you comment is useless

1. If I am walking with guy who has a criminal record can someone beat me up and it would be acceptable to you since my buddy had a rap sheet

2. what you know now about the guys walking buddy even if true, was not known to the Chabbad guy when he was attacked.

3. what does this have to do with a Yid at random beating up a black guy

It is amazing how illogical and frankly stupid the arguments are getting anytime a frum person gets arrested for any crime

Come out and just say what your real issues is
what you really believe

Goyim have no right to judge frum yiddin and neither does the secular in Israel have that right.

frum Jews should not be arrested , prosecuted, convicted for any crime they did

devorah can you name 5 frum jews who have been convicted in the last 20 years where you felt is was right, and you did not have an issue with it

can you name 4 can you name 1

[adams]

I was just curious how do they determine how to extradite someone? shouldn't that mondrowitz have been extradited as well?

[Yankel]

Its sad that the Bucher who had had beaten with attempt to murder Channa Gurari on the instructions of the Rebbe to prevent her from testifying on behalf of her son was not extradited back to the US and testified that the rebbe was the one who instigated him to murder his sister in law for a few lousy books

[Isa]

Isn't the father of the Black kid a cop?
Cops stick together closer than a bunch of Satmirs at a Zionist convention.
So this guys extradition was probably 'expedited'

[Chicago sam]

I suspect the real name of the assailant is Schochet. The name was probably changed to protect their reputation.

[Shmarya]

I suspect the real name of the assailant is Schochet. The name was probably changed to protect their reputation.

Posted by: Chicago sam | November 11, 2011 at 01:00 AM

You suspect wrong.

[Bfeirush in Fartscroll]

This guy looks like a child molester in training, like he's Sanduskied more than his fair share of yutes, why bring him back to the US?

[George Walker]

It's always an honor student

[Yosef ben Matitya]

It's always an honor student

actually, it's always a holy chasidic yid kid, that behaves like a savage, is hidden by his peers, that runs away , to hide with fellow chosids in canada, in israel.....

[Eliyohu]

Not attacking anyone here... but can anyone shed some light on the background of the Schuchat guy?
From what I understand, the police have classified this as a "hate crime" based on two factors. One, the the alleged perp and victim are of different races. Two, for lack of other obvious motive. Fair as speculation, but speculation nonetheless.

I'd love if someone could illuminate me on this suspect, other than the crime he's accused of.

BTW, dare I say it, violence and thuggery are not crimes traditionally associated with religious jews! Yes, they happen, but I'd be amazed if they were anywhere near as common as amongst their non-jewish counterparts. Not to mention their african-american counterparts.

Correct me if I'm wrong in anything I've said, but please, no personal attacks.

[tommy]

RightJew,

And yet the record is very clear that there's a massive amount of Black against White/Jewish crime in the urban jungles of Obama-nation.

That's entirely true, but beside the point.

Will any Orthodox Jews be accepted as jurors at this Jew's trial

Given the record of Orthodox Jews in making excuses for their own in crimes committed against non-Jews, I would hope not. Why can't they just get some white gentiles or non-Orthodox Jews on the jury?

anuran,

Gotta love that whole "self-hating Jew" bullshit.

It's the preferred term of abuse among Jewish narcissists against their own kind: they dimly project their constant "Is it good for the Jews?" thinking onto fellow Jews and imagine that any Jew who isn't asking that penultimate question in every circumstance must be filled with incredible self-loathing.

[Fleishike Kishke]

Not condoning Shuchat’s alleged violent behavior, or fleeing to Israel, but I'm not sure about the HATE CRIME charge. Shuchat didn't allegedly beat the guy because he was black. He allegedly beat him because he believed he'd been throwing rocks. Even if Shuchat was spewing racial epithets during the beating, that seems to me heat-of-battle anger/emotion and whatnot. That ought not to be enough to raise this offense to the level of “HATE CRIME.” Prosecutors should only add that charge in cases where the motive was solely to target an innocent person for being a member of a particular race or religion. In a neighborhood such as Crown Heights, where blacks and whites live intermingled, there will be conflict. The prosecutor needs to be real careful about adding the hate crime charge just because the combatants were of different races.

[Eliyohu]

Fleishike Kishke, I don't believe there's any allegation of Shuchat spewing racial epithets. And I know nothing whatsoever of Shuchat's history as far as either Violence or Attitudes to Race are concerned.
Judging by his behaviour, he isn't by any chance a member of the jewish defence league?
RightJew, as I've said on this blog before, the american jury system is a strange beast. But I suspect between the two sides, there'd likely be neither orthodox jews nor blacks on the jury. Of course, the jury is only an issue if Shuchat pleads not guilty.

[Fleishike Kishke]

"I don't believe there's any allegation of Shuchat spewing racial epithets"

I got this from the comments on the Crown Heights info website. Some Lubavitcher who (seemingly) belongs to the other neighborhood patrol says he's going to testify that Shuchat was making racial remarks when allegedly beating the cop's son. He's not JDL. He was part of the Shmira patrol.

[Eliyohu]

"The assault was defined as a hate crime because the parties did not know each other prior to the attack and because there was no other apparent motive. The extradition request also pointed to tense relations between Jews and African Americans in the neighborhood as a reason to believe that race was a factor."

See www.jpost.com/NationalNews/Article.aspx?id=222725