Agudath Israel Child Sex Abuse Meeting
Agudath Israel of America, whose stated halakhic position is that senior haredi rabbis should evaluate each allegation of child sex abuse and determine whether or not police should be called, is having a session at its national convention for synagogue rabbis on child sex abuse. Will Agudath Israel continue to tell these men to screen all allegations of child sex abuse?
they say it as though they dont get why people are going to rabbis first, and now that they do we need to figure out how to help them.
just sick and lies.
Posted by: netflix | November 15, 2011 at 05:51 PM
Its really nice that the rabbonim are able to deal with this issue so well. Of course, we are maaminim bahashem and in his malachim--maan malchi-robonon. And we know that the rabbis will deal effectively to end this problem once and for all with their deep deep amazing awesome daas torah hakedosha veharamah. As you see, we do not stonewall problems in the haredi community, our rabbonim are just as modern as anyone and just as up to date at making takanos so we can keep hashem yisborachs torah.
Posted by: chussid | November 15, 2011 at 06:02 PM
chussid is a more sophisticated troll than Waiting4Moshiach. They needed an upgrade. Hiya, fellas.
Posted by: Korbendallas72 | November 15, 2011 at 06:12 PM
Just out of curiosity,is the following site runned by hassidim?Because if it is,it means they are waking up...
http://www.crownheightswatch.com/
Posted by: Abu Jihad Schneerson | November 15, 2011 at 06:13 PM
theese agudath rabbis must be brain damaged and really dumb to keep doing the same things over and over again, the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result well they the agudath for sure meets that criteria
Posted by: jancsipista. | November 15, 2011 at 06:22 PM
They are doing what is right to protect our holy tayreh kinderlack jancsipista. Maybe you want to protect the molesters but the rabbonim will deal with them in the torahdikke oifen
Posted by: chussid | November 15, 2011 at 06:33 PM
chussid-hahahahaha you cant be for real they are the problem if you cant see that then youre in denial di fershiest,as i wrote go over it the definition of insanity they meet all of it.
Posted by: jancsipista. | November 15, 2011 at 06:41 PM
See? More yeshivish, more sophisticated constructs. We may never see Waitng4Moshiach again. His purpose is the same as his predecessor: defend the system, sidetrack meaningful conversation on the subject, cause grief to victims, and pose as a foil. It's the same on every message board, but this guy is more sophisticated than most. Possibly educated, possibly professional.
Posted by: Korbendallas72 | November 15, 2011 at 06:45 PM
Who want to put up money, I say that the outcome of this meeting will be more of the same obfuscation, will be high on the agenda and right under that, how to circumvent any legal entanglement, with law enforcement.
Posted by: Joe Field | November 15, 2011 at 06:46 PM
They are doing what is right to protect our holy tayreh kinderlack jancsipista. Maybe you want to protect the molesters but the rabbonim will deal with them in the torahdikke oifen
Posted by: chussid | November 15, 2011 at 06:33 PM
this is how they deal with it
protect the molester
give him a job in another community a job with children or better yet fly him to Israel
if not
make sure he get great kovod on shabbos
and off course
vilify the person and family who reprted them
dass torah are simply accessories to the crimes and should be arrested just like the people in Penn State
Posted by: seymour | November 15, 2011 at 06:54 PM
They are charging to get in?
Posted by: Rebitzman | November 15, 2011 at 06:59 PM
chusid- i dont know if you know me but i wrote here about a dozen times about what happened to me over 50 years ago when i was 10 years old i came from a communist country to usa at the time in the town i lived not far from satmer we had a shoihet and moel who was 62 years old in 1960 there was no indoor plumbing
so in the summer we went to the mikva that was
built beforee ww2 so one time or more then once our gudel from our town was also there our shoihet under the water started to fondle me he did this more then once but after this i could not beleive in any of what our torah writes sice a person at his age does such insane behaviour it tottaly destroyed my beleif you can say soul he did other terrible things i wont go into it but i remember on tisha beov he was screaming crying now i ask you what kind of insanity is this a person who learned toireh can stoop to such insane behaviour this shows me that toireh is nothing if cant tech someone accepted behaviour so dont bring the toireh in here because i say youre insane also thats all i have to say
Posted by: jancsipista. | November 15, 2011 at 06:59 PM
anyone interested in a good laugh here it is
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRIXFbYraCA&feature=related
Posted by: jancsipista. | November 15, 2011 at 07:29 PM
I'm glad they're giving "chushuva rabbonim" a discount at the "luxurious and glatt kusher Hilton Hotel so that they can slop their fat hideous faces and discuss the boys that they've sodomized in the 24 hour tea room. I hope that the "delectable" appetizer table (god, New York Jews are disgusting) is constantly being heaped with more slop that these hogs (apologies to the porcine species) can fill their pieholes with.
Posted by: Robert Wisler | November 15, 2011 at 07:36 PM
Why are you so against the Rabbonim after they do what Mr Shamarya and his accomplices always wanted-- try to SOLVE the problem of CSA?
You would rather they do nothing to fit your image of the Torah world as a backwards place. But when you try to farschmutz Torah, you are only showing your own dirt.
Posted by: chussid | November 15, 2011 at 07:41 PM
Chusid its "man malki rabanan" not malchi - or malachim as you eroneously refered to them.
Posted by: ultra haredi lite | November 15, 2011 at 07:51 PM
Why are you so against the Rabbonim after they do what Mr Shamarya and his accomplices always wanted-- try to SOLVE the problem of CSA?
You would rather they do nothing to fit your image of the Torah world as a backwards place. But when you try to farschmutz Torah, you are only showing your own dirt.
Posted by: chussid | November 15, 2011 at 07:41 PM
If you want to know how this meeting will go watch south park
http://www.southparkstudios.com/full-episodes/s06e08-red-hot-catholic-love
Posted by: seymour | November 15, 2011 at 07:56 PM
Who is the psychologist? Is he truly an expert in this area?
Posted by: kindered | November 15, 2011 at 08:12 PM
My fear/guess is that the pulpit rabbis will be advised to refer all such reports to either the Moetzes Gedolei Torah or to a panel appointed by the Moetzes to deal with reports. Pulpit rabbis will be denuded of authority to call the police or advise people to do so.
Posted by: DBSesq | November 15, 2011 at 08:55 PM
No prosecutor speaking. No outside counsel speaking. No rabbi advocate speaking. No survivor speaking.
The words "child sex abuse" are avoided.
The rabbis will hear from their long-time in-house counsel, and a carefully picked frum psychologist, Yitzchok Loeb. Who's he? Or is it Jerry Lob from Chicago?
A farce.
Posted by: Dov | November 15, 2011 at 09:12 PM
aguda in fla has been involved in covering up for molesters and pregnancies by non jews with frum girls in beis yaacovfor years
Posted by: thelion | November 15, 2011 at 09:17 PM
I'm glad they're giving "chushuva rabbonim" a discount at the "luxurious and glatt kusher Hilton Hotel so that they can slop their fat hideous faces and discuss the boys that they've sodomized in the 24 hour tea room. I hope that the "delectable" appetizer table (god, New York Jews are disgusting) is constantly being heaped with more slop that these hogs (apologies to the porcine species) can fill their pieholes with.
Posted by: Robert Wisler | November 15, 2011 at 07:36 PM
Upset that you weren't invited, right?
Posted by: p | November 15, 2011 at 09:45 PM
The truth is slowly winning the battle against denial. This is a time of major paradigm shift.
Posted by: Adam Neira | November 15, 2011 at 10:04 PM
UHL:
כי שפתי כהן ישמרו דעת ותורה יבקשו מפיהו כי מלאך ה' צבאות הוא, אם דומה הרב למלאך ה' יבקשו תורה מפיו מו"ק י"ז.
Posted by: chussid | November 15, 2011 at 10:29 PM
chussid- you must be one of those brain damaged hassidim whom nothing fazes they are like wood they cannot be reasoned with they are tottaly devoid of any humanity in other words an outcast and an outlaw
Posted by: jancsipista. | November 16, 2011 at 07:43 AM
The FM community led by Shmarya should all show up at this session recording devices and all.
Occupy Agudah
Posted by: ultra haredi lite | November 16, 2011 at 09:51 AM
Wow! I pervert conference on pedophilia!
Posted by: Jack Ass | November 16, 2011 at 10:13 AM
Damned if they do, damned if they don't.
Posted by: take it east | November 16, 2011 at 10:28 AM
Is this in response to Hynes claiming that 90 ultra-orthodox were prosecuted for sex crimes? Did community members phone their rabbis to comment on Hynes's claim? Maybe the frum leadership can no longer claim that abuse does not occur.
Posted by: Bas Melech | November 16, 2011 at 11:08 AM
whatever happens at the upcoming Agudath conference, Shmarya will find a negative spin to it.
Posted by: taylor | November 16, 2011 at 06:19 PM
kudos for shmarya,though i disagree with him on many issues,it is healthy for the religious jewish community to be alerted for the wrong doers,pedofiles,thieving and fraudulency that goes on amongst them,wake up jews,before thirteenth avenue will be assigned the avenue jew of boro park.
dont be perplexed if it will happen.
shmarya,were u ever alerted how beastly the employees of B+H treated? do you have any idea how beastly other jewish employees are being treated by their jewish chasidic bosses?
without any provisions? and those hard working slaves literally slaving,are afraid to open their mouths when it comes to a slight raise?no benefits of course.yes,it is good,that a guy named shamrya r finally is opening his mouth to the chagrin of the powerful and mighty.
but,on shabbos and yom tovs those jewish cappos get the aliyos as if it is nothing,and if they could have by law,they would have hit their underlings,just like the cappos at the slave camps.
bless you shmarya,may g-d be with you.you are the mouthpeace of all the muted voices.
Posted by: levi yitzchak derbamdikker | November 17, 2011 at 03:28 PM
levi yitzchak derbamdikker- you are missing an r and an e in the derbaremdiker its not derbamdiker or maybee youre kidding but thats wrong in this case.
Posted by: jancsipista. | November 17, 2011 at 05:20 PM
צפה ישראלי פורנו רטוב <ס סרטים עם נערות ורוב של מפורסמים של ישראל.
Posted by: סקס | November 19, 2011 at 01:17 AM