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October 11, 2011

Haredi Fringe Group Claims Molestation Of Boys Has "Surged" Since Same Sex Marriage Bill Passed In NY

JPAC SUKOH 017JPAC wants men's mikvas to put up its anti-gay signs "The Jewish Political Action Committee is now organizing an awareness program to stop Gay molesters from attacking children and teens. Since the gay marriage bill in New York was introduced,there has been a surge of gay attacks against youngsters in New York." However, the vast majority of pedophiles who molest boys are not gay, and medical science has long since shown that. And there is no evidence whatsoever for JPAC's claim that attacks against boys have surged since same sex unions were legalized a few months ago.

JPAC SUKOH 017

I again exchanged emails with JPAC.

JPAC is completely unaware of the medical science of this issue. It does not know that the vast majority of man-on-boy-pedophiles are heterosexuals, and that being gay does not predispose a person to pedophilia.

Worse yet, it makes the completely unsubstantiated claim that man-on-boy pedophilia has "surged" in New York State since the same sex marriage bill was passed a few months ago.

We know that Heshy Friedman from the old Heshy's House blog is a JPAC leader. The rest remain anonymous, along with the Mea Shearim rabbis it claims endorse its actions.

I think it's time to out every one of these people.

So ask for a sign, and come with a camera – in fact, with a few friends, all with cameras. Take pictures of everyone from JPAC that you can.

We'll post them and try to identify each one.

And then we'll see if JPAC has any real support – or any real members – and the reckless actions JPAC takes will be attached to real people who can be held responsible for them:

Here's my email exchange with JPAC. Remember that JPAC previously refused to name any of its 13 members or the rabbis it claims support it:

JPAC:  [Sends free sign offer]

FM: Statistically the vast majority of pedophiles are male and STRAIGHT. Gays molest children at about the same rate that heterosexuals do. Do you think you have an obligation to the Jewish community to check your facts before you go public? Or do you think the shock value of what many call your stupidity outweighs that obligation?

JPAC: But this is going into mikvehs where there are only males

FM: That isn't the point. Most pedophiles are not gay, even though they molest boys.

JPAC: The issue is molestation against boys by men be they gay or bi but its still a gay act and very serious

FM: Doctors and scientists have shown that it has nothing to do with homosexuality.

JPAC: Its an awareness issue for many youngsters who may fall victim to molesters. Yes there are girls attacked by men but not in a mikveh. These signs are meant to educate boys and more important scare off adult molesters. Thank u

FM: I don't think they will scare off any molesters, and, again, most of the man-on-boy pedophiles are NOT gay. You don't seem to understand the pathology of child sex abuse. Don't you think you have an obligation to learn, to get the actual medical information, before you post signs like these?

Here's the JPAC press release for the free sign offer:

FREE SIGNS WARNING AGAINST THE SIN OF MALE HOMOSEXUALITY FOR MIKVEHS AND SHULS SEEKING TO HANG THEM UP.


EMAIL US AT JPACNYC@AOL.COM FOR FREE SIGNS

The Jewish Political Action Committee is now organizing an awareness program to stop Gay molesters from attacking children and teens. Since the gay marriage bill in New York was introduced,there has been a surge of gay attacks against youngsters in New York. Children and teens are now at the mercy of the militant gay liberals who are brainwashing society to their evil. We in JPAC have been flooded with complaints of this type of wicked behavior even in orthodox circles. It was modern orthodox politicians as well as materialistic orthodox individuals who aided or kept silent on the gay marriage bill in exchange for a kool 25 million dollars. We are not here to expose these individuals and groups but to let the honest orthodox G-d serving Jew know what to watch out for.Thank G-d Bob Turner was elected and was running in the Brooklyn community made up of strong idealistic orthodox Jews. The DemoRATS were running around 4 days before the election offering a half million dollars plus in cash but NO Rabbi was willing to sell out his people. Jews in Flatbush,Kew gardens and Forset hills should kiss their Rabbis feet who remained loyal to G-ds Torah and did not support the  gay marriage candidate. We are offering FREE signs to Mikvehs and shuls that declare Judaism considers male homosexuality a worse sin than murder  AS WELL  AS
G-d sent AIDS to punish male gays. Many people are unaware of the danger of this sin as the secular media is brainwashing society as well as children in kindergartens are being thought homosexuality as a normal lifestyle. In New york ,the libraries are being loaded up with gay propaganda to destroy the young innocent mind.No Jewish parent should allow their kids to the library anymore. We dont need tax payers money going to dens of evil .Write your local politician.

Related Post: It Only Gets Worse.

Update 5:40 pm CDT – I received another response from JPAC and added it to the ones above.

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Well, the men's mikveh is the right place for warnings against gay molestation...

Posted by: Dr. Dave | October 11, 2011 at 01:08 PM

You are a doctor of what? Don’t you know that there is zero correlation between pedophilia and homosexual. Why would you call a pedophile, gay?

Let me guess:

"Stave" is emailing Shmarya. "Stave" will probably "happen" to come across a mikvah in Boro Park that actually has these signs up.

everyone please sign up JPACNYC@AOL.COM for random porn and gay sites

JPAC is completely unaware of the medical science of this issue. It does not know that the vast majority of man-on-boy-pedophiles are heterosexuals, and that being gay does not predispose a person to pedophilia.

they are aware but either do not care or simply do not believe since it conflicts with their beliefs

god sent aid to punish gays

question

then why do heterosexuals get aids?
It should be a simple matter for god to have aids affect only gays

maybe they can tell us why Jews get Tay–Sachs disease since they know stuff like this

Hmmm. You're right! -- look at Kolko, Mondrowitz, that whole group of swine in Baltimore etc etc etc. All married with children. Never thought about that!

And thanks for the last comment Seymour! Tay-Sachs is a punishment for being and Eastern-European Jew and for living that sinful backward lifestyle.

whoever supports gay gets punished !!!


"Jews in Flatbush,Kew gardens (sic) and Forset(sic) hills (sic) should kiss their Rabbis (sic) feet who (sic) remained loyal..." to USA government subsidies.(Sick!)

this fringe hareidi group is tottaly mad they are trying everyone to get revd up to go bunkers over this gay marriage thing so their ego will be satified they belong in an insane asylem no shame nothing left in them they are tzimishet messed up they need massive psych help what a shame on us all.

You pull apart the bread in a shit sandwich and find shit. Not surprising.

(by "shit sandwich" I mean the JPAC crazies of course)

OMG -

I'm a neurologist.

And as there is generally no mixed sex mikveh use, pedophilia in the mikveh would be homosexual pedophilia.

But you are right.

The sign should read:

Random Sex in Public places is against the Torah.
It can lead to the transmission of diseases including AIDS.

And Pedophilia will get you castrated.

@Dr. Dave- since you're a neurologist perhaps you can Rx some Sertraline or Risperadol to these JPAC guys. They clearly need it.

Mr. SkepticalYid what are U Jew or a skeptic or you're Jews for Jesus ?

Well, the most recent child molestation case in the Orthodox community is the Orthodox child molestation ring in Nahalaot in Israel. I believe most of the men arrested/under investigation are married to women. One of them has a previous conviction for rape of a woman. So I'm not sure what JPAC is talking about and apparently they don't know either.

See: http://mekubal.wordpress.com/2011/09/23/shomrim-yeladim/

Most pedophiles are hetrosexual, married, employed and have children. Of the hundreds of cases I've researched in the Jewish community those appear to be facts too in our community.

For example, Rabbi (Yomtov)Lipa/Lippa/Lewis/Louis Brenner (HaCohen) is a confessed and convicted pedophile. He confessed to investigators and pled guilty in open court. The original charges included 14 counts of sodomy, sexual abuse and endangering the welfare of a child. He agreed to plead guilty to one count of sodomy in the third degree, a Class E felony, in exchange for a sentence of five years' probation. The sort of sweetheart deal the Brooklyn DA is known for giving child molestors in the Orthodox community (Kolko for example). Prosecutors said Brenner had sexual contact with a youth he met in the bathroom of the temple they both attended. The molestations allegedly took place over a three-year period that ended in 1995 when the victim was 15 years old. "it would appear that defendant has been able to retain considerable stability in his life with limited exceptions." Justice Heffernan noted that Mr. Brenner had been accepted by another religious congregation despite knowledge of the charges in the case. Brenner is a Vizhnitzer Chassid and former vice-presidnet of the Rabbinical Alliance of America. He worked in Orthodox Jewish education for decades (particularly with vulnerable children and special needs children) and held numerous pulpit positions. He has been married for decades and has several children.

There is no evidence whatsoever that he is homosexual. He is a pedophile. There is a difference.

Orthodox men have been molesting little boys in the mikveh for years, long before NYS passed the marriage equality bill. Ask just about any man who went to yeshiva about this and he'll tell you it not only went on in the mikveh. When the rabbi smacked a kid on the behind as punishment he would grab the boys private parts as well. Sad, but a fact of yeshiva life that's still going on.

to support shmaryas points....


"The distinction between a victim's gender and a perpetrator's sexual orientation is important because many child molesters don't really have an adult sexual orientation. They have never developed the capacity for mature sexual relationships with other adults, either men or women. Instead, their sexual attractions focus on children – boys, girls, or children of both sexes.
Over the years, this fact has been incorporated into various systems for categorizing child molesters. For example, Finkelhor and Araji (1986) proposed that perpetrators' sexual attractions should be conceptualized as ranging along a continuum – from exclusive interest in children at one extreme, to exclusive interest in adult partners at the other end.

Typologies of offenders have often included a distinction between those with an enduring primary preference for children as sexual partners and those who have established age-appropriate relationships but become sexually involved with children under unusual circumstances of extreme stress. Perpetrators in the first category – those with a more or less exclusive interest in children – have been labeled fixated. Fixation means "a temporary or permanent arrestment of psychological maturation resulting from unresolved formative issues which persist and underlie the organization of subsequent phases of development" (Groth & Birnbaum, 1978, p. 176). Many clinicians view fixated offenders as being "stuck" at an early stage of psychological development.

By contrast, other molesters are described as regressed. Regression is "a temporary or permanent appearance of primitive behavior after more mature forms of expression had been attained, regardless of whether the immature behavior was actually manifested earlier in the individual's development" (Groth & Birnbaum, 1978, p. 177). Regressed offenders have developed an adult sexual orientation but under certain conditions (such as extreme stress) they return to an earlier, less mature psychological state and engage in sexual contact with children.

Some typologies of child molesters divide the fixation-regression distinction into multiple categories, and some include additional categories as well (e.g., Knight, 1989).

For the present discussion, the important point is that many child molesters cannot be meaningfully described as homosexuals, heterosexuals, or bisexuals (in the usual sense of those terms) because they are not really capable of a relationship with an adult man or woman. Instead of gender, their sexual attractions are based primarily on age. These individuals – who are often characterized as fixated – are attracted to children, not to men or women.

Using the fixated-regressed distinction, Groth and Birnbaum (1978) studied 175 adult males who were convicted in Massachusetts of sexual assault against a child. None of the men had an exclusively homosexual adult sexual orientation. 83 (47%) were classified as "fixated;" 70 others (40%) were classified as regressed adult heterosexuals; the remaining 22 (13%) were classified as regressed adult bisexuals. Of the last group, Groth and Birnbaum observed that "in their adult relationships they engaged in sex on occasion with men as well as with women. However, in no case did this attraction to men exceed their preference for women....There were no men who were primarily sexually attracted to other adult males..." (p.180). "

http://psychology.ucdavis.edu/rainbow/html/facts_molestation.html


the last line is especially important.


however i still think JPAC is just one or two nutjobs and maybe their kids. i think "racytorah" is the alias that "stave" used to use here.

Oh, and by the way JPAC Brenner's son in law Rabbi Ephraim/Efraim Boruch Bryks (Halevi) who is an alleged pedophile (open police file in Canada) actually runs a mikva in Queens. Maybe you could get him to put up one of your signs on his mikvah. He like his father-in-law has been married for decades and has children.

MR piss aka "ah-pee-chorus" its abbot time to grow up

I thing jpac should contact RABBI NUCHAM ROSENBERG...

yona- is that the new alias youre using?

MR piss keep dreaming you are fantasizing on JPAC that's all you can fantise all day at this old age as a bachelor which hand do you use you are a rightly or a lefty?

Well blow me down. Interesting how they "blame" the MO Jew and then only a few lines later state state that the Jews in Kew Gardens etc.... Should kiss the etc... Hmmmm seems to me that there are plenty of Jews in those communities that JPAC would condlsider MO. Well, which way is it boys? You can't be burning the wick at both ends of the candle, or maybe you can? Ooooh that feels good

Yona, I can't imagine how on earth you would think that my suggestion that JPAC needs anti-psychotic medication would make me a Jew for Jesus. Either you're joking or you're just ignorant.

the proof is your name SkepticalYid stands for
Jew for Jesus.btw keep dreaming you are fantasizing on JPAC that's all you can fantise all day which hand do you use you are a rightly or a lefty?

Skeptic =Jew for Jesus.. and you post sophomoric masturbation humor? Yep, you're an idiot. Go back under your bridge. There's a billy goat trip trapping by...

Posted by: SkepticalYid | October 11, 2011 at 07:20 PM

I do not think that Yona is new to this blog, his writing has the trappings of a few who frequent these pages.

yona=JPAC=stave=racytorah

he cant stand that people arent taking these clowns (him) seriously.

Either that or they all come from Yeshiva Ohaiv Baitzim.

yona=JPAC=stave=racytorah

I checked it out, APC.

Yona and Stave are the same person.

Not sure about racytorah, though.

shmarya-

while i'm not positive, 'yona's comments in this thread bring up avraham, a subject i brought up in a discussion with racytorah which led him to write about it in his blog.

http://failedmessiah.typepad.com/failed_messiahcom/2011/10/haredi-fringe-group-works-borough-park-234.html


he also likes to distort my alias just like racytorah, which i find kind of amusing. might just be coincidence but i doubt it. and racytorah would plug his latest blog rant in every thread, just like 'stave' does for JPAC...

APC –

It's unlikely for reasons I won't expound on here.

Shmarya i like your style in journalism

mr piss you are a you are a nutjob

SkepticalYid Ohaiv penis

I'm calling the local Monsignor on Sunday to find out what I have to do to become a Catholic. This Jewish shit is really getting me down.

now you can become Gevezener yid

@Posted by: Shmarya | October 11, 2011 at 10:07 PM

i hear ya.


Shmarya i like your style in journalism

Posted by: yona | October 11, 2011 at 10:15 PM

No kidding "Stave", he lets you get away with trying to fool us that you "happened" to see all these JPAC signs which no one else notices.


Get a job. And a life.

So back to that question about Tay-Sachs disease:

By the same logic that makes AIDS a punishment from G-d for the crime of non-monogamous sex, then Tay-Sachs is a punishment visited on the Jews for the crime of marrying other Jews. Simple as that.

I notice that you didn't rise up with all your righteous indignation that "Yona" and "Stave" are one and the same. After all, you do have a rule against sockpuppeting, which you selectively enforce. (Even though this isn't technically sockpuppeting, as the "Yona" and "Stave" characters are diametrically opposed to each other in their points of view.)

You need to apologize to "Guest" for deriding and insulting him when he correctly discerned that this whole business was a hoax.

"Stave," get a life.
"Yona," get a life.

Shmarya, you're a fake.


Posted by: Ethel Mertz | October 12, 2011 at 12:16 PM

Still dumb as a tree stump, aren't you Uzi or any of your other three aliases.

You're a sick, obsessed, foul and petty little man.

And don't worry about Yona/Stave.

Perhaps your wife or one of your BMWs can explain to you why that might be.

Oh, and as for JPAC, Uzi, it's real, not a put on or fake.

It's run by the guy APC named and a couple others.

They are haredi.

They really do believe what those signs say.

They used the Stave character to whip up righteous indignation against JPAC to spur media coverage.

If you were you were brighter, you might have noticed that on your own.

As it is, ask your BMW or any other object or life form higher than you to explain it to you.

It is a furphy to say that homosexuals are more likely to sexually abuse children. The vast majority of child sexual abuse in the past has taken place within private family homes. JPAC has got some of their priorities mixed up. I do agree with them that same sex marriage laws are a problem.

Furphy- (Australian slang) meaning "rumor".

The Magical Sky Wizard is watching with his gigantic surveillance lenses. He is obsessed with what you do with your filthy parts. He has nothing better to do. It's all about the obsession with your filthy parts. Makes sense...huh?

To Brandy Spears,

G-d is omniscient, omnipotent and omnipresent that is true. But he is not like the Zardoz figure you postulate. The reason why the sexual and the spiritual realms are so interconnected is the following.

Every human being is born with an innate core of being/sovereignty. A small child knows intrinsically if their boundary is violated. The schechina exists in the soul of a child. If sexual trauma takes place the consciousness of a child is altered. The healthy frame of reference is shattered. This distortion of consciousness affects later life in a multitude of ways. These are called coping mechanisms. Homosexuality is a result of negative sexual conditioning in early childhood, most often repressed, and poor later adult life choices. People can rationalise things all they like but these are the facts of the matter.

Since the dawn of time humankind has experienced various boundary violations and what are we left with in late 2011/early 5772 ?

G-d is the ultimate sovereign. He wants a world of sovereign beings living in peace and harmony with each other. This in Jewish prophecy is called "Ganeden".

Please follow...

A child becomes an adult. An adult becomes a couple. A couple becomes a family. A family becomes a community. A community becomes a city. A city becomes a nation. A nation becomes the world.

What will it be ?

Traumaworld or Peaceworld.


Posted by: Adam Neira | October 13, 2011 at 10:13 PM

If you believe in the Torah as you proclaim that you have an understanding how and when the end time will happen and how Moshiach would manifest. How are you blogging on Yom Tov, without any shame? Alternatively, is it possible that you have a special relationship with the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob? Moreover, you are now going to change the Laws of Moses, ala Jesus Christ.

Secondly, you claim that homosexuality is a result of “negative sexual conditioning in early childhood”. All the studies refute your assertions, you are trying to fit a square peg into a round hole. Stop your babbling you are nothing but a nut.

Brandy Spears writes:

The Magical Sky Wizard is watching with his gigantic surveillance lenses. He is obsessed with what you do with your filthy parts. He has nothing better to do. It's all about the obsession with your filthy parts. Makes sense...huh?

That's right. A hundred billion galaxies. Maybe a septillion stars. Unbelievably huge structures of dark matter and strange energies out beyond the Redshift Limit. Gamma ray galaxies. Life in unimaginable variety.

And the Creator of all this, Invisible Sky Wizard, doesn't care about it at all. He's much obsessed with whether naked monkeys on an infinitesimal piece of dust orbiting a yellow dwarf star play with their wobbly bits.

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