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October 28, 2011

Elderly Widow Claims Chabad Rabbis Scammed Her

Rabbi Boruch Cunin Rabbi Levi Yitzchak CuninAn elderly widow claims father-and-son rabbis swooped down on her the day after her husband died and coerced her into signing over to Chabad of California her multimillion-dollar Malibu home, and buying a $100,000 Torah, while deceptively promising "to support her financially for the rest of her life."

Rabbi Boruch Cunin Rabbi Levi Yitzchak Cunin

Rabbis Levi Yitzchak Cunin, left, and Boruch Shlomo Cunin, right

Widow Claims Chabad Rabbis Duped Her
By KEVIN KOENINGER  • Courthouse News

LOS ANGELES –  An elderly widow claims father-and-son rabbis swooped down on her the day after her husband died and coerced her into signing over to Chabad of California her multimillion-dollar Malibu home, and buying a $100,000 Torah, while deceptively promising "to support her financially for the rest of her life."

Maxine Coe sued Chabad of California, Levi Yitzchak Cunin and Boruch Shlomo Cunin, alleging financial abuse of an elder, fraud and negligent misrepresentation, in Superior Court.

Boruch Cunin is the president of California Chabad and his son is its assistant secretary, according to the complaint.

Coe, who was 82 when it all happened, says: "In December of 2008, while her husband was gravely ill and in the hospital, plaintiff had been in contact with defendants regarding having a rabbi visit her and her husband for comfort and support, and for securing a final resting place for her husband upon his death. In late December 2008, Rabbi Levi Pitzchak Cunin and his father, Rabbi Boruch Shlomo Cunin, went to visit plaintiff."

Her husband died on Jan. 13, 2009. "Within one day after the death of plaintiff's husband, while plaintiff was grieving, defendants Levi and Boruch Cunin offered to bury her husband at the Chabad burial plot in Running Springs, California, and to support plaintiff financially for the rest of her life. In doing so, the individual defendants coerced plaintiff into signing documents by misrepresenting to plaintiff the nature of the documents, which included the total transfer of ownership of plaintiff's multimillion dollar family home in Malibu to defendant Chabad, the initial appointment of Rabbi Mordechai Zev Nemtzov and the subsequent replacement appointment of Rabbi Yakov Baitelman ('Baitelman') as plaintiff's attorneys-in-fact, and failure to carry out their promise to plaintiff that she would stay in the house and they would take care of all her needs and expenses. Defendants had not disclosed to plaintiff that she would no longer own the house, that she would still be responsible for taxes and upkeep for the house and utilities, and that they would use plaintiff's bank account to pay for all of her expenses without depositing any funds into the account or using their own funds to support plaintiff.

"In 2011, plaintiff discovered the misrepresentations defendants had made to her when she began to receive notices from her bank that her own checks had been returned for insufficient funds on deposit."

Coe says the father-and-son rabbis "made various representations to plaintiff because of her age and bereavement ... that it was necessary for her to execute various documents so that her husband could be buried at Chabad's burial site in Running Springs, California, and that defendants would take care of her for the rest of her life."

These representations included that "a. Plaintiff would continue to live at the property in the same manner as always; b. Defendants would take care of all plaintiff's financial needs; and c. It was necessary for plaintiff to execute various documents so that she could have continued support," according to the complaint.

Coe says she "relied on such false and fraudulent misrepresentations, and without consideration transferred title to defendants of her multimillion-dollar beachfront Malibu home, and executed a power of attorney in favor of defendants, among other things."

She says the rabbis also "coerced plaintiff into purchasing a Torah - which she did not need - from defendants for $100,000 and into giving substantial sums of money to Chabad and the other defendants...

"In return, defendants provided nothing of value to plaintiff except a burial place for her recently deceased husband.

"In addition, defendants moved individuals into and from the property without paying rent to plaintiff, all in a value unknown at present, but is subject to proof at time of trial. This violated plaintiff's expectation of quiet enjoyment of the property and her privacy."

Coe seeks punitive damages and quiet title to her home.

She is represented by Sheldon Lodmer.

This is not the first time Rabbi Boruch Shlomo Cunin has been accused of doing something like this, and he's lost in court before after trying to scam a widow.

You'd think that would be enough for Chabad's central organization to condemn Cunin.

But as usual, Chabad's leadership has been silent.

Stealing from widows is apparently a sin Chabad's leader, Rabbi Yehuda Krinsky, and its central organization do not recognize.

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"Chabad will be Chabad will be Chabad".

this is exactly how chabad operate. they show great concern for troubled individuals especially those who come from weathy homes.. chabad possibly the world champions for schnorroing in the worst possible way. they pray on one. come come , put tephillim be reborn oi oi . they mumble as one passes by. no one the failed messiah stands up to these hippocrits

Hashem is going to take out the trash very soon now.

To Mendy..
Another wonderful example of the morals and integrity of the hareidi world. The Jewish religion is a filthy sham and has been since the Temple was destroyed. Its adherents have the same moral fibre as devotees of the Islamic religion.

ITS DOG EATS DOG ACCORDING TO THE LUBAVICHERS, THEY ARE PREDATORS OF THE WORST KIND.

Wow, this is exactly how they get money, their whole belief system, is based on how to steal some old women’s money.

Krinsky has ABSOLUTELY no control over anyone in Chabad - NO ONE. It his only thru mafia style coercion ( & misappropriation of funds) that he FORCES his way whenever it suits HIM.

Krinsky is himself a crooked individual - a taxi driver fool -- baal hagolo, who the Rebbe himself said, people would be sorry he is "on the in".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7jUml9XL6Q&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Just the 1st couple of minutes.

Gotta love these guys. Yesterday they brought back fond memories of Monty Python, today - The Black Adder!

about ten years ago i received a mailing sent to everyone on the anash list condemning cunin for many many offences. i'm sure this did not come from merkos, but it is evidence that cunin does have principled enemies within chabad itself.

regardless, merkos should respond to this and condemn cunin's behavior publicly. zack is only partially correct about krinsky's power. while it is true that chabad shluchim are not "employees" of chabad for the most part b/c they are not paid and have to do their own fundraising, Krinsky DOES hold the keys to the chabad franchise. meaning, if he finds some shaliach problematic he can revoke that rabbi's right to use the name "chabad" and can sue that rabbi if he continues to do so. this is why you have a lot of "jewish centers" run by chabadniks - they are non-official and have not been granted rights to the franchise. Krinsky COULD revoke cunin's right to the franchise. then, if cunin engaged in fundraising in the name of chabad he would immediately be guilty of fraud and could be prosecuted before scamming anyone.

A Jewish civil war is coming.

If there is a complaint why not take it to a bais din? Why should this be in the newspapers?

A Jewish civil war is coming.
Posted by: Korbendallas72 | October 28, 2011 at 10:42 AM

Do you mean a Jewish “religious” war? That has been going on from day one. It will never subside; it is always about control, which leads to profit. As the good sage said in the Watergate saga “follow the money”.

Hashem is going to take out the trash very soon now.

Posted by: Korbendallas72


hashem is being delayed by his fight with zeus and the easter bunny over who has control of peoples delusions and imagination. its up to people like shmarya to educate and inform as to what these lowlife scammers are up to. and its incumbent upon all of us to spread the word and innoculate the gullible against the disease that is often spread by chabad and others under the cloak of religion.


this is answer #533 in the series to the question:

even if its not true, isnt religion a good thing?

If there is a complaint why not take it to a bais din? Why should this be in the newspapers?

Posted by: Waiting4Moshiach


thats a very good question. the answer is that hashem doesnt have time to follow every bais din to ensure their honesty but he loves reading newspapers to stay informed. he requests that all such stories be reported to police and news outlets. i know this cuz he told me.

OMG - I mean that when Moshiach shows up, more than half of the Jewish people are doing to fight him. Guess which half?

ah-pee-chorus - Religion is a good thing, in the right hands. Haven't seen too many of those lately.

Hashem is going to take out the trash very soon now.

Posted by: Korbendallas72

come on, it only took him 400 years to hear our cries to finally end our enslavement in Egypt

Money is to Chabad
As
Blood is to a vampire

Both will suck you dry


Religion is a good thing, in the right hands

history has shown and continues to show on a daily basis just how wrong you are. there are no "right hands" for anything based on lies which makes promises of eternal life, ultimate justice, and reunion with dead friends and relatives that cannot be kept.

ah-pee-choru- youre fantastic hillarious keep up the good work:)))))hahaha zeus and the easter bunny hahaha love it.

Usual Chaim,


There are PLENTY of "unofficial" Chabad centers and Krinsky -- Kotlarsky can't do anything about it. ZERO.

Besides, the day or better yet dark night, Krinsky DARES to even hint of doing anything against Cunin he will be chopped liver and even the Vultures won't have anything to munch on because Krinsky would be decimated and he knows that, better than anyone else.

Krinsky is shit and it wouldn't take much from an insider like Cunin to show the world what he truly is.

jancsipista- thanks. and may i say your posts are always right on target and i appreciate them .

zack - i didnt say krinsky could do anything about the unofficial chabad/jewish centers. what he can do, however, is force cunin to go unofficial or face another lawsuit.

you may be right that krinsky fears going against cunin because of the latter's power base. however, that doesn't mean he lacks the capacity to make the sort of statement i suggested he should. it just means that he would be, hypothetically, too cowardly to face the consequences of doing so.

if he then lost his position and cunin was re-instated by a new head of merkos that would be outside of krinsky's control... at least he would have done the right thing

about ten years ago i received a mailing sent to everyone on the anash list condemning cunin for many many offences. i'm sure this did not come from merkos, but it is evidence that cunin does have principled enemies within chabad itself.

regardless, merkos should respond to this and condemn cunin's behavior publicly. zack is only partially correct about krinsky's power. while it is true that chabad shluchim are not "employees" of chabad for the most part b/c they are not paid and have to do their own fundraising, Krinsky DOES hold the keys to the chabad franchise. meaning, if he finds some shaliach problematic he can revoke that rabbi's right to use the name "chabad" and can sue that rabbi if he continues to do so. this is why you have a lot of "jewish centers" run by chabadniks - they are non-official and have not been granted rights to the franchise. Krinsky COULD revoke cunin's right to the franchise. then, if cunin engaged in fundraising in the name of chabad he would immediately be guilty of fraud and could be prosecuted before scamming anyone.

Posted by: the usual chaim | October 28, 2011 at 10:24 AM

I don't think you're correct. Kunin is in charge of chabad of California legally, and therefore Krinky can't do anything. I must also say that to condemn Kunin is a waste of time he has no limits and everyone knows that.

Btw Shmarya, I'm not sure if your aware that Kunin took mortgages with liens on all schools in California without the knowlegde of the schools, and now he is unable to pay back. He is currently in 80 million dollar debt. The whole chabad of California is fuming with him, but are powerless.

Typical Cunin sleaze. And I'm sure L.A.'s judges are getting tired of seeing any Cunin's sorry-ass faces in their courts.

I do wonder, however, how a couple as affluent as them, didn't make pre-need funerary arrangements. If you're poor, you don't have to. You just wait it out and somehow, somewhere, you'll be buried.

But if you're rich, it seems to me you have your choice of all greater L.A.'s high-end crypts on hills with vistas of this fair city. Hillside, Mount Sinai, the works. But Chabad's Running Springs as a final resting place? Oi vey. Much too far for the widow to even visit him! Poor woman. She must have entirely relied on her husband throughout life, and been rendered unfunctional w/o her him. And the Cunins capitalized on that.

I hope there are plans in the works to exhume the man and/or move his grave. That should be part of the punitive damages!

Kunin took mortgages with liens on all schools in California without the knowlegde of the schools, and now he is unable to pay back. He is currently in 80 million dollar debt

excellent. theyll have to find a whole lot of widows and orphans to fill that hole.

i hope they collapse.

Forget the Chabad hierarchy. Cunin claims direct connect with Jolly Mendel King Christ and recognizes no intercessors. Krinsky and Shemtov are lightweights compared to the craziness and extremes to which Cunin will go. They fear him. They will never take him on. Fraud and Elder Abuse is a real crime in the non-Lubavitch world. But Cunin is exceedingly connected, and in a corrupt city such as Los Angeles his also exceedingly connected attorneys may get him off without a trial. This needs to go to a jury of “his peers.” In addition to posting on FM if and when the L.A. Times/Daily News/LA Weekly gets to covering this alleged crime if ever there were a reason to light up the blogs and talkback sections this is it.

If there is a complaint why not take it to a bais din?

Because..........they want justice?
Because..........complaining to a rabbi about a rabbi is like complaint to a wolf about a wolf?
Because...........peeing into the wind is more efficient than going to a Bet Din?
Because....................

Someone shoudl eventually write a book of the crimes of The ChaBaD. KorbanDallas- you are hopefully right on. I sense that ChaBaD is not G-ds mission on earth and that they are quite a problem for our people. Look at all the commentary today. Look at the contents of this blog on usual. This particular story should be in a jewish press as well.

rebitzen-because they lost their humanity and they worship the almighty dollar.

As Fleishike Kishke commented, Cunin (may he be punished both on heaven and earth for his evil)cannot be touched by the Chabad hierarchy because the son-of-a-whore Schneerson sent him to L.A. Also, he's well connected politically because of the window-dressing that he shrewdly and wickedly puts on with his "drug rehabilitation center" and his Jerry Lewis style telethon etc.

So, this curse-on-humanity Cunin has free reign to exploit the people (especially the Jewish population) of L.A. without any limits on his evil. This man is a perfect example of the morals and integrity of his "rebbe" Schneerson. Same principles and same sense of "fair play".

Stealing for grieving elderly widows. It doesn't get any lower than that without a bathysphere and mining equipment.


Someone shoudl eventually write a book of the crimes of The ChaBaD. KorbanDallas- you are hopefully right on. I sense that ChaBaD is not G-ds mission on earth and that they are quite a problem for our people. Look at all the commentary today. Look at the contents of this blog on usual. This particular story should be in a jewish press as well.

Posted by: western jew | October 28, 2011 at 12:56 PM
One can also write a book about greedy Jews. In every culture and group there are people who act immoral. If your hatred of chabad came first then you will find fault in everything they do. If however you did not have an opinion at first, you would appriciate the movement, and understand that every bag of apples has a rotten one.

Sorry Levi, I am not a self hating jew or whatever you might be. I have witnessed a good deal of wickedness and treachery in the name of the Lubavitch Rabbi and I am not going to walk around and ignore the evil in our synagogues today. The fact is you could write a book of these crimes because they are growing. And "greedy" jews is an antisemitic reference. Are you even jewish to make a comment like that. I am shocked at your audacity.

APC - Very funny! LOL! :)

Well, once again I'm going to quote the Pentateuch (Exod. 22:22-24)


22 Ye shall not afflict any widow, or fatherless child.

23 If thou afflict them in any wise, and they cry at all unto me, I will surely hear their cry;

24 And my wrath shall wax hot, and I will kill you with the sword; and your wives shall be widows, and your children fatherless.

Levi - No, it's not "bad apples", it's a bad goddamn basket. The whole movement is rooted in racial supremacy. That Jews are superior in every way to all other races is their STARTING POINT. It's all downhill from there.

Oh yeah, and the idolatry. We all know how that goes.

I feel sorry for Al-Chabad. They should have known better. Klal will not envy their fate.

In all fairness to Chabad and Rabbi Cunin, we've only heard one side of a story here.

The practice of offering lifetime income (usually as an annuity) and a lifetime estate in property in exchange for sizable assets is hardly uncommon in the charitable world. Such arrangements can in many cases offer significant advantages in terms of estate and income taxes. Indeed, many of the country's finest charities, including the most elite of universities and white glove institutions, have entire departments within their foundations that solicit and administer such arrangements.

Typically, a donor conveys fee simple title in real estate (i.e., homes and condos) and takes back in exchange a life estate tenure (often recorded as a deed would be). The donor, who also receives annuity income as part of the arrangement, pays for the upkeep on the property, including taxes, until his or her own death, at which point the lifetime estate expires and the beneficiary institution auctions the property.

Such a donation is ideal for, say, a loyal alumnus or supporter who would like to make (and benefit from) a significant financial contribution during his or her lifetime, but whose assets are largely tied up in a house. There is nothing inherently sinister about it.

Now, as to Cunin, I think he's a son-of-a-bitch for entirely different reasons. Some time back, he sold Lubavitch's landmark Berkeley Chabad House from under the feet of the local shliach so he could cash in on rising property values. Together with the Chabad House in Ann Arbor, the Berkeley house was one the movement's earliest and most popular, and was prominently featured in Challenge and/or other classic Chabad materials from the 1970s, when the movement first began taking shape as the international Jewish religious denomination that it now is.

It was a Chabad House like no other: crash pads in the basement, and a vegetarian Shabbat menu. It was from there that I learned the many uses of Tamari sauce. Spiritually, it represented the epicenter of that time when Chabad met counterculture. But I digress.

Some might say I should also be angry at Rabbi Korf (Sr) in Miami, for selling off Miami Beach's 1401 Alton Road Chabad House to become a drug store parking lot. Well, I'm not because 1) Rabbi Korf is my friend, and 2) I am aware that he has mortgaged his own home countless times to meet the expenses of Chabad in Florida, especially after he was forced to take over the local Chabad school after a subsidiary shliach ran off to better pastures in the happy donor hunting grounds of nearby Bal Harbour.

The truth be told, the era of residential Chabad Houses, as spiritual refuges or live-in waystations to the yeshiva, has largely and sadly come to a close, as the new and growing multitude of shluchim need to position themselves in suburban communities with baalei batim to support them. Also, the youth of the past few decades are far more career oriented than their counterparts of the 1960s and 1970s, and are far more likely to be found in business and professional schools than on gap years from their philosophy and liberal arts degree programs.

Back to Cunin: however he has been vilified, he deserves much credit for erecting the Chabad edifice in California, and shepherding it to become what it is today. I suspect, as I have elaborated above, that the donation issue under discussion is hardly as simple as presented in the self-serving and inherently prejudicial language of a plaintiff's complaint in a lawsuit seeking money. But I am confident that Failed Messiah will make a point of giving equal time and placement to the as-yet-unreported other side of the story (i.e., Cunin and Chabad's reply/response).

to levi...there is no hatred towards chabad.actions speak louder than words. it is their continual litany of their deeds that prompts one's dislike for them and their actions. i am sure there are equally just as odious other sects who behave under the guise of ultra religious, jew and otherwise. no one seems to touch on the subject of tanya. the word made flesh.

There are forces in this universe that have started various movements. Islam is based on death. Christianity is based on impurity. ChaBaD is based on petulence. That is why it is what it is. I would no longer find that they are valid as spiritual advisers and don't let the religious attire and hebrew orientation fool you. ChaBaD is a dynasty of petulence that is really only an adjunct to the idea that God has send a messiah. I personally have read TaNaKh many times through and through and I am not convinced that a man is to be the ultimate leader of the entire world that will last for all generations. I believe in the idea that we wait upon G-d to make changes and bring justice. I do no longer ever say "moshiac now" or any of those sayings that the ultra religious fire off on an hourly basis. But I will say the Shema often and pray to my Creator. God is true and there is no reason to think that we need him to send us a messiah man being to save our nations. There could be a messianic age and clearly we await redemption and hopefully perhaps a True Temple Era that lasts indefinately. I believe that time is coming. But the idea of a man to lead us is not my thoughts today. The writings of the Prophets can be interrpreted in many ways. I think that the Christian loved verses of Isaiah 53 really refer to the preisthood. There is alot of insight you can gain if you learn Torah.


Sorry Levi, I am not a self hating jew or whatever you might be. I have witnessed a good deal of wickedness and treachery in the name of the Lubavitch Rabbi and I am not going to walk around and ignore the evil in our synagogues today. The fact is you could write a book of these crimes because they are growing. And "greedy" jews is an antisemitic reference. Are you even jewish to make a comment like that. I am shocked at your audacity.

Posted by: western jew | October 28, 2011 at 01:21 PM

You did not understand me. I was saying that just like you base your hatred of a certain group on some stories, and you would like to write a book about these stories to prove what chabad is about. With this same logic, an anti-semite decides that based on some stories about Jews he can conclude that all Jews are bad. The point is He can also write a book with stories about Jews that can fill a book. Nonetheless, just because both you, and the anti-semite, can write a full book that sheds negetive light on a specific group does not make either group bad.

Levi - When a Jewhater writes a book, it's because his soul hates the Jewish people. If an anti-Chabad book were to be written, it's because the soul loves the Jewish people.

Yeah AE Anderson...
Cunin deserves such great credit for erecting the Chabad edifice in CA. Osama Bin Laden deserves great credit for erecting the Al Quaida edifice throughout the Middle East, subcontinent, and Africa. And Osama has only been doing it for about 30 years. Cunin's been polluting our midst for the past 40 years.

Oh yeah, and the idolatry. We all know how that goes.


Posted by: Korbendallas72 | October 28, 2011 at 01:44 PM

As the rebbe recently walked down the aisle to his place in 770, someone stuck out a foot and the rebbe 'tripped'... The Meshiachistim gave the man a beating while the latter yells at them "shouldn't you rather busy yourselves with helping the rebbe get up?"...

AE Anderson,

You are a schmuck. You talk about hearing two sides and then make derogatory one sided derisive remarks favoring the shit that's called Korf in Miami.(just ask anyone living there long enough and who has interacted with this piece of diarrhea)

Korf as he has done time and time again pushed a successful Shliach out of a successful enterprise ( and was chased away to Bal Harbor) only because Korf has done nothing in all the years he is in Miami except for what he has stolen or capitalized from others.

Korf is a looser with a terrible Napoleon complex who is a worthless piece of crap.

The practice of offering lifetime income (usually as an annuity) and a lifetime estate in property in exchange for sizable assets is hardly uncommon in the charitable world

Hitting someone up to do it during shiva - by a rabbi - certainly isn't.

You seem "learned". Exactly how many Jewish Laws did he break even bringing the subject up the day the man aw burie?

Levi, what does a guy like Cunin do to fall 80 million in debt, I mean, how many porn stars can you shtup already?

i agree with zack's estimation of korf. i lived in miami for a long time. i would not, however, criticise korf for selling the building in miami beach. the chabad community has really moved north and there are only a few people left in miami beach besides israelis. the buildings there are barely used and it is also a major inconvience for people with kids in the metivta to take them down to miami beach when they live farther north

To R. Wisler:

You wrote: "Another wonderful example of the morals and integrity of the hareidi world. The Jewish religion is a filthy sham and has been since the Temple was destroyed. Its adherents have the same moral fibre as devotees of the Islamic religion."

I can answer your questions. I can't answer your answers.

If you (and all of you out there) have made up your mind, I can't change it.

You do sound like one of those kids who grew up Orthodox and got sick of all the BS and left the community. I don't blame you.

If that describes you, I hope you realize one thing: If you had grown up Catholic, you'd right now be bashing the Pope.

Think about that one. The issue is not the bullcrap. The issue is your pain.

Recognize it for what it is.

One can also write a book about greedy Jews. In every culture and group there are people who act immoral. If your hatred of chabad came first then you will find fault in everything they do. If however you did not have an opinion at first, you would appriciate the movement, and understand that every bag of apples has a rotten one.

Posted by: Levi | October 28, 2011 at 01:09 PM

we are not talking about individuals here we are talking about a whole movement

also, real quick (it's almost Shabbos):

Let's say there are 1,000 chabad rabbis.

Each chabad rabbi engages in 1000 interactions a year.

That's 1,000,000 interactions.

of those, how many are unethical/immoral?

Let's say even 10,000 of them.

what's the remaining percentage?

Posted by: Mendy Hecht | October 28, 2011 at 04:34 PM

very well said
both are lairs who lie to their flock, both are amazing hypocrites and both have done much damage to society

so yes he would be against the pope since that religious organization is very close to chabad

Posted by: Rebitzman | October 28, 2011 at 12:34 PM

some of my friends who went the beis dein (because they are frum) tell me they never you have thought that is was so corrupt never again would they go to beis dein.

They where shocked . I wasn't but since they are believer they where stunned

what's the remaining percentage?

For those who profess to represent "true" Judasm? Too high.

And because they are defended by the remainder - WAY too high.

Shabbat Shalom

If there is a complaint why not take it to a bais din? Why should this be in the newspapers?

If the Mafia takes your money, why not talk to a mob boss?

TThis Chabad Lubavitch practice of preying on the dying and vulnerable, which if I recall correctly Cunin pioneered after he scored big many years ago, is SO FUCKING SICK. It’s not just Cunin. There have been other stories of Chabad Rabbis stalking hospital wards and old age homes, and then alleging big donations and harassing widows. How much coverage do these stories have to get until people realize that they have to keep away from Chabad? They cause so much fucking harm. It far outweighs their “free food,” and now obsessive torah-writings. Income-earning Jews must starve the Chabad hucksters of donations, and then the government must prosecute these delusional charlatans when they resort to criminal activity, which many will for lack of education and skills. The truth is “Chabad” harms more than the public. Young Lubavitchers who don’t have “what it takes” to join the missionary movement, the unused embryos, fall as collateral damage. They have no education, capital or contacts. Some have the strength to get it together. Some don’t. The OD/Suicide rate is now pandemic, and not just because one life is the world entire. Young Crown Heights people are dropping like flies. Does Chabad give a shit? No. Krinsky and Shemtov to Cunin to EVERY last one of these parasites are too busy looking for the next sucker to milk dry. Those pictures of Krinsky participating in the fleecing of their new rich mark Guma were only slightly less disgusting then this story about Cunin. Just say no thank you to Chabad, their Rebbe pictures, their bogus Rebbe stories, their religious services. Do not allow your children to get involved with them on campus. Do not patronize them overseas. In your hometown go to another synagogue, participate in online services, form your own house of worship, just keep away from the public menace that is Chabad Lubavitch.

That's what Madoff did to. Now that I think about it, Blankfein, Fuld, Cohen, Prince, Rubin, Cohen, Weinberg, Loeb, etc., etc. all do exactly this.
In fact any jewish financier that is not running a fraudulent business plan or a ponzi scheme?

Where there is smoke, there is fire.....

There are whispers and rumors in Malibu that the Widow Coe was overtly deceived by the Rabbis during shiva. There are also allegations and rumors of criminal fraud with the Rabbis dealings with Mrs. Coe and her property.

It is alleged that the Rabbis told the widow that her multi-million dollar beachfront home would be converted to a "childrens center" following her death. There are other rumors regarding multiples sets of title paperwork, etc, in the transfer of the home to the Chabad.

Here is a recent example of the Rabbis dealing with another widow:

http://tinyurl.com/4y8x792

Better start dancing Mr. Rabbi. Everything that is there to be known will be known. EVRYTHING.

Ok I get the Cunin's are cunning but what about Mordechai Gutnick here in Melbourne, is he of the same ilk?

They are liable to a class action suit for massive fraud and ruining countless of lives. very few people would have joined them if their true practices and beliefs were known. this is one case in which a Jewish or gentile lawyer could do a good deed by brining down this horrible monster called chabad.

I know of many cases in which a wife that naively believed in chabad was coerced by promises and threats into divorcing her husband who was not. This phenomena I discovered was very common in Yerushalim and also in California in the 90's. It was standard practice in order to build up their movement and get women for their men. they did this by coercing women from their husbands in the afore said manner

cunins have been doing this for YEARS.
good morning!

Does this mean Yeshivah in Sydney is going down again?

These clowns have been ripping grandma off for years.

Chabad in California is a scam. It is an IRS a 501(c)3 non-profit corporation but does nothing except enrich itself. The Rabbi uses donations to purchase property -- telling donors of his grand plan to do good -- and then takes massive loans out against the donated properties.

Now much of the Rabbis real estate is in foreclosure. (The Chabad drug center property is in trouble). There are many lawsuits and the Chabad has stopped paying its bills. Maxine Coe in Malibu was lied to after her husband was buried at the Chabad mountain property. Now she wants her home returned.

See you at Shilo's!

Mendy, you oaf, your argument works both ways. If you'd been born a Mormon you'd think that was the one true faith, and you'd defend Mormon cults like you're defending Jewish cults. You'd say "So what if Warren Jeffs has ten wives under the age of 14, the rest are of legal age, what's the problem? He's just living true Mormon life and you're jealous"

That's what you don't see. It's all subjective and it's all a lie. Derailing discussion about your cult's crimes, by claiming that someone's pain is stopping them from seeing clearly, just means you've fallen hard for the cult bullshit. You're pitiful.

Anybody have any comment re Melbourne and Sydney??. All we really have is Chabad and when the shules not Chabad it is still one of their rabbis.

Sydney had some nice orthodox Shuls, somehow the old Rabbis failed to inspire young people and most of the Ba'al Teshuvas I know were Lubavitchers. So naturally after these old Rabbis died or retired the Ba'al Teshuvas whose parents were Shul members pushed and Rabbi Feldman I supposed became influential and no one saw how bad and inappropriate it was to hire Lubavitch Rabbis for normal orthodox Shuls.
I know some who are repulsed by what's happened in Sydney because they see through Chabd and hate going to Shul but maybe they would have found a different excuse had say Litvishe Rabbis been appointed everywhere.

A Jewish civil war is coming.

Posted by: Korbendallas72 | October 28, 2011 at 10:42 AM

A call to arms is in order. Its kill or be killed!

I personally do not believe in firearms so I will be stocking up on dirty diapers.

Only fight 'em on Shabbos. That should confuse them.

anuran

You have the right idea.

Shabbos it will be.

We can also switch chairs at 770 so they don't know which one the moshiakh sat in.

Have massive citizen arrests of all the major haredi criminals. To show that we are not just picking on "Jews" we can add other religions like Chabad, etc.

Lead them away in handcuffs, search their beards for weapons, get the IRS to audit their asses off.

That's a little forshpayz ( appetizer).

The best is yet to come.

Isn't Cunin the same one who counts dead Rebbes in his minyan?

A call to arms is in order. Its kill or be killed!

I personally do not believe in firearms so I will be stocking up on dirty diapers.

Posted by: p | October 29, 2011 at 06:20 PM

Once interlopers and idolaters are decisively identified and marked for expulsion, they're not going to like it too much. Who resorts to violence and thuggery? The simple secular Jew who has a job, pays his taxes, and manages to live a decent life at the end of the exile, or the ones dressed like Chaldeans who wield iron fists?

This story seems ripe for a criminal and IRS investigation of the Cunin Chabad.

Does anybody have inside information about these potential criminal defendants? Is the Rabbi really $80,000,000 in debt?

Can anyone comment?

To Mendy Hecht - The Chareidi and Chabad apologist who leaves comments and then never returns to answer those who have responded to his twisted logic.

Did you read the comment addressed to you by "No Light" on October 29, 2011 at 12:31 PM ? No, I didn't think so. So, below is his excellent comment again.

I suggest you read it and start thinking. Maybe you will realize that you've been had. You are lying to yourself and everyone else. But do us all a favor, and quit lying to us. We happen to think for ourselves, and we don't drink the Koolaide. Go find some Chabad websites where you can do your kiruv and missionizing. This is not the place. Stop trying to peddle your Koolaide here. You're continually wasting our time.

Here is "No Light"s answer to you:

Mendy, you oaf, your argument works both ways. If you'd been born a Mormon you'd think that was the one true faith, and you'd defend Mormon cults like you're defending Jewish cults. You'd say "So what if Warren Jeffs has ten wives under the age of 14, the rest are of legal age, what's the problem? He's just living true Mormon life and you're jealous"

That's what you don't see. It's all subjective and it's all a lie. Derailing discussion about your cult's crimes, by claiming that someone's pain is stopping them from seeing clearly, just means you've fallen hard for the cult bullshit. You're pitiful.

Posted by: No Light | October 29, 2011 at 12:31 PM

I don't think this is a case of Chabad is Chabad is Chabad. This is a case of Cunin is Cunin is cunin. He preys on the weak and shoots bullets at any Chabad Rabbi in California that stands up to him.

>>He preys on the weak and shoots bullets >>at any Chabad Rabbi in California that >>stands up to him.

Yossel,

Not just Cunin but as mentioned earlier Korf, Krinsky, Kotlarsky and a whole host of them do exactly the same.

Cunin just got more balls and firing power than the rest of them ( at least that's how it's been until now).

AND TO MENDEL HECHT....

If you believe what ur sayin u just plain stupid.

Do you live in a dream world and not see and hear what's going on around you.
The Rebbe Rashab said, "ehoiv es habikoires shehi taamoid al raglecho"

Criticism is good,it will put you on your feet -- if you care to do so. Unfortunately very few people of those mentioned above care to do that.

Chabad needs a grass roots revolution if there is to be anyimprovements.

Cunin stole hundreds of thousands from my dad in the 80's

The Vilna Gaon was right.

I really think this discussion boils down to those who think Chabad is on balance benevolent, and those who think it is on balance malevolent.

Certainly, there have been lawsuits against Chabad shluchim with respect to their fundraising activities, as there have been lawsuits against all sorts of charities alleging similar misconduct.

If the powers-that-be within Chabad recognise this as an serious and ongoing problem, they would utilise the opportunity of the upcoming Shluchim Convention to commission an internal, blue-ribbon panel with significant outside membership to draft a movement-wide code of conduct and practice.

A sharp but ultimately short-sighted lawyer would opine against putting anything in writing that could conceivably be used against a client. But in the case of a universal, public service organisation with firm and solid moral underpinnings, such as Chabad or any religious denomination, the absence of transparent standards and an effective system of internal accountability and discipline, makes the overarching umbrella group seem complicit for every act or omission of its largely independent agents and local representatives.

At a minimum, Chabad shluchim, rabbis, administrators, teachers and volunteer outreach workers should be enjoined by central directive to act in an honourable manner that brings credit to the organisation and to the Rebbe, and refrain from any activity or transaction which might, whether made public or not, bring discredit to the movement, the rebbe, or the shliach, either by halakhic or generally accepted community moral standards. Indeed, the movement wide standard should specifically enjoin even the appearance of impropriety.

Such a standard should specifically require that public laws be followed to the best of one's ability, in conformance with halakha as determined by competent and generally accepted halakhic authority. Where law and halakha at times apparently or actually conflict, then a positive duty to seek halakhic advice prior to any potential infringement should be created.

There should also be drafted and promulgated an ethical fundraising guide, to suggest acceptable and unacceptable practices. Clearly, offers to launder money in exchange for a percentage must always be rejected. Situations where ethical questions arise -- e.g., widows seeking donating the totality of their assets -- should be dealt with by requiring, for example, the potential donor independently to retain outside counsel to advise on the transaction and its implications, much as is done with prenuptial agreements and other events where claims of duress tend to arise in later years.

Of course, to implement this belated entry to the 21st Century, Chabad's central institutions should consider the retention of an ethics counsel, not to provide criminal or regulatory defence, but to provide prior ethical due diligence and post-transaction ethical advice. It is indeed shocking that a multinational organisation as large as Chabad lacks an in-house (or even external) general counsel.

Another approach might be to additionally amend the system of "duchos" (if it still exists) to encourage or require the disclosure of any legal or generally significant event (e.g., media mention, governmental or police inquiry, donation or pledge over a specified threshold) to the movement's central authorities. But this route would seem to make the central authorities responsible for every act of the locals and regionals by virtue of this apparent supervision -- something it is in no position, by education, training, staffing, funding or inclination, to undertake.

Still, something must be done to stop this continuing villification of Lubavitch as a collection of unscrupulous schnorrers hell bent on putting their hands in the public's pocket, Judaism and morality be damned.

I had a run-in with a Cunin.

Not a pleasant experience.

If you were rich, they fell all over themselves to help you in any way.

If you were poor, even if you volunteered time and did what you could, they treated you like the lowest form of life.

Money is EVERYTHING to them.

They turned away committed Jews, religious Jews, because they didn't have money and told them, "I'm sorry, we need PROOF you are Jewish."

These were people whose parents had been in the Holocaust, people with their relatives buried in Jewish cemeteries--who were told they had to have some sort of paperwork, or they couldn't participate.

They alienated so many Jews, ruined so many lives--but they were the only Orthodox shul in town.

Horrible.

Still, something must be done to stop this continuing villification of Lubavitch as a collection of unscrupulous schnorrers hell bent on putting their hands in the public's pocket, Judaism and morality be damned.
Posted by: A E ANDERSON | Clown Heights, NY 11213 | October 30, 2011 at 11:41 AM

To say that every Lubavitcher is an embezzler is ridiculous. The problem lies at the very core of the moment itself, in the framework, under the wood paneling. The system doesn't work. It does more harm than good now. That's the issue.

"At a minimum, Chabad shluchim, rabbis, administrators, teachers and volunteer outreach workers should be enjoined by central directive to act in an honourable manner that brings credit to the organisation and to the Rebbe..."
AE Anderson ... I could be wrong, but I get the sense you are a BT. You are still in the cult so I understand that you have enormous esteem for the entity that was knows as “the Rebbe” and maybe even the head honchos of the Chabad movement. You are asking the proverbial fox to guard the henhouse. Schneerson himself was complicit in or gave his consent to massive fraud. The very highest in Chabad participate in the fleecing of the biggest donors. There are photos of Krinsky attending a MIXED function of a billionaire whose own family is saying that the donor is mentally unstable and doesn’t have control of his behavior.
I don’t have the exact facts, so I concede I may have a distorted picture of what happened so I will not use names of the living in case I have the story wrong, but there was a famous story of a certain esteemed rabbi fundraiser who approached Shmaryohu Gurarye, a.k.a. the RASHAG who was in charge of the central Lubavitch Yeshiva and said to the effect of, “If I can raise two-million dollars for the Yeshiva will you give me 50%?” The RASHAG amused by this proposal, said, “Sure. If you raise two million dollars, you can keep half.” This Rabbi proceeded to file for PEL grants (or some other government funding) and obtained the money. When RASHAG realized where the money actually came from, that the school (or the students if it was PEL) was entitled to the money, he reneged on his agreement to allow the rabbi to keep half. The Rabbi complained directly to the Rebbe. And how do you think the Rebbe decided? He said “a deal’s a deal” pay the man his 50%. Do you think Lubavitch today can be less corrupt than the Congressional Gold Medal Winner himself? The answer is no. Chabad, from its Rebbe to its chairman to nearly every fraud pushing their failed messiah for personal profit is corrupt. Nothing short of 8,000 investigations, one for each Shliach and the wife behind him will cure this criminal syndicate. There needs to be many thousand more for Crown Heights itself, the other Brooklyn Jewish neighborhoods, Lakewood, Los Angeles, and wherever else the Frumma live.

Here are some facts from the public record. See for yourself at:
http://tinyurl.com/3vnuyu9

Maxine Coe and her husband Edward purchased their beachfront home at 22150 Pacific Coast Highway in Malibu in 1968 for $52,500.00

On January 20,2009 Maxine Coe, following the death of her husband Edward Coe on January 13, 2009, transfers title to her Malibu home to Chabad of California.

In 2009 the assessed value of the Coe Malibu property for tax purposes was $667,940.(The market value of the house according to Zillow was approximately $5,500,000 that year). The property tax bill on the home in 2009 is $8,154.00

In 2010, the assessed value of the Malibu Coe property for property tax purposes,now controlled and titled to Chabad of California, skyrockets from $667,940 in 2009 to $15,962,080 an increase of 2,130%. The property tax bill owed on the Malibu home jumps from $8,154 in 2009 to $180,819 in 2010.

Why the HUGE jump in the assessed value of the Malibu house? Who paid the $180,819.00 tax bill in 2010?

Another fact:

Edward Coe, husband of Maxine Coe, is buried at the Chabad mountain property in Running Springs, CA. If Mrs. Coe ever wishes to visit Edwards final resting place, it is a 98.7 mile drive from the home in Malibu up high in the mountains where it snows in the winter. Not very convenient for the widow (This according to Google maps)

After having read the comments here, one wonders if there are any serious participants. A bandeh meshugoyim who simply love bashing Chabad-Lubavitch!
There is so much good being done around the world by them and all you do here is concentrate on the few silly people?

Rabbi Cunin helps out with widows - paying their rent etc.
You dont know what he does in secret

"You shall not wrong a stranger or oppress him, for you were strangers in the land of Egypt. You shall not afflict any widow or orphan. If you do afflict the, and they cry out to me, I will surely hear their cry; and my wrath will burn, and I will kill you with the sword, and your wives shall become widows and your children fatherless." (Exodus)

There are hundreds, if not thousands if Chabad families who bring a great deal of light to the world. I am priveleged to have been touched my many.
However, the corrupt in the community darken the whole picture. Instead of bringing Moshiach closer, as the Rebbe truly wanted, their greed and tactics of putting people down for their own evil enjoyment has actually pushed Moshiach farther away.
Cunin in Los Angeles
= Tennenhaus in South Florida (a Cunin wannabe)
= Gutnick in Melbourne, Australia
= Shadchan Esther Blau in Crown Heights, NY.
Over the past 2 decades, I have personally been scammed by most of these above mentioned corrupt no-goodnicks who prey on innocent victims. It eats you up alive. I also know many people who's lives they have literally destroyed, whether it be financially, or spiritually, or emotionally. They are wolves in lambs' clothing.
They need to learn how to do Teshuva properly, however no authority figure tells them off. So they keep on doing what they do. May they realize their wrongdoings and soon change their ways, so the Rebbe's hopes can truly come to fruition.

from Isaiah 1 "plead for the widow"-- not prey on the widow... "wash yourselves; make yourselves clean; remove the evil of your doings before my eyes; cease to do evil, learn to do good; seek justice, correct oppression; defend the fatherless, plead for the widow"

They can't be reasoned with, they'll never come to their senses. They don't think goyim are human, that the law of the land doesn't apply to them, and that their ideology gives them special privileges. They will not listen to reason, they will not stop worshipping their rebbe, and they have excuses for all of this behavior. They're not even Jews, they bow to an idol. It's an abomination and a perversion of Torah.

You cannot fool Hashem.

Think this through with me...... Chabad = RICO?

Right Said Fred:

The difference between the original assessed value and the assessed value after the property sale is due to the pre-Tea Party Proposition 11, which limited annual increases in assessments (and therefore property taxes) on residential property.

A property gets re-assessed upon a change in ownership, hence the skyrocketing valuation when Cunin et al acquired the home.

Proposition 13. My bad.

Korbendallas72, please calm down. Go for a half hour walk and you will feel much better.

Chabad stands for Had --- Bad den of lying thieves.

Mendy Hecht october 28

Are you the Mendy Hecht of Park Slope, Brooklyn? Just curious

Many here seem to think their powers of mind- reading are greater than those vouchsafed to ordinary mortals.

Imputing motives is always a bad idea.

Loshon Hora and Rechilus is still forbidden.

Every American is presumed innocent until proven guilty by law.

I have personally heard wild charges against Rabbi Cunin by those ignorant of the full facts. When those were presented, rational interlocutors changed their tune. But "A man convinced, against his will; Is of the same opinion, still." This site is living proof.

As to those eager to think ill of another on one- sided claims, look to the mote in your own eye.

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