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September 01, 2011

Obesity 7 Times Worse In Haredi Communities

Scale Israel's Health Ministry says ultra-Orthodox Jews are seven times more likely to be obese than all others."The haredi lifestyle focuses on the dinner table…At the same time, they don't engage in any physical exercise."

 

'Haredi sector suffers from obesity'
Health Ministry, Dairy Board launch joint campaign aimed at fighting overweight phenomenon among ultra-Orthodox. 'The problem is seven times worse in the haredi sector than among seculars'
Ari Galahar • Ynet

The Health Ministry has determined that there are more overweight people in the ultra-Orthodox sector than in the secular one.

Yair Amikam, the ministry's deputy director-general for information and international relations, recently launched a joint campaign with the Dairy Board aimed at fighting obesity among haredim.

Amikam stressed in a letter to the chairman of the ministerial Tender Committee that "the problem is seven times worse in the haredi sector than among seculars."

At first, Amikam stated, the Dairy Board and ministry would work to raise awareness to the issue among children and teenagers. The campaign was to be brought to the sector's members through a haredi radio children's show.

The campaign's cost was estimated at NIS 130,000 (about $36,000), divided between the different activities of the Dairy Board and Health Ministry.
         
"The haredi lifestyle focuses on the dinner table," explains Shifra Krimolovsky, the campaign's initiator. "Haredim eat and celebrate a lot. When a baby boy is born in the general sector there is just a circumcision ceremony, while the haredi sector holds different social events which include a lot of food.

"At the same time, they don't engage in any physical exercise. This is the reason we are launching a campaign which will begin with the children, with the aim of getting the mothers to learn about proper eating habits and physical activity."

Besides poor cooking choices, no practical health education in haredi schools, and lack of exercise, another factor strongly impacts the haredi rate: poverty.

In developed countries, poor populations are more likely to be fat than others.

Why?

Because lower calorie, higher nutrition foods cost too much money to be eaten regularly.

Fresh non-root vegetables, meats, and fish cost much more than potatoes, pasta, and rice. And fast food is almost always significantly cheaper than healthier restaurant fare.

The poor eat a diet that is higher in bad fats, lower in protein and almost devoid of all vegetables except potatoes – and Israeli haredim are disproportionately poor due their rabbis' decision to bar most haredi men from the workforce.

As more haredim enter the workforce, some of the economic issues that drive obesity will be reduced.

But any society in the developed world that has 7 to 8 children per family and has no disproportionate wealth will be disproportionately obese and unhealthy.

Only government policies that lower the prices of healthy food and raise the prices of some unhealthy food will change that.

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Is this any shock? The only physical activity allowed in the Chareidi community is rioting on Shabbos. Otherwise it's eat and sit.

Vicious cycle...

Rabbis say study Torah. Rabbis say dress modesty. Rabbis say must go to religious beach. Rabbis say every mitzvot must be observed perfectly plus all the minor and major holidays. Prayers must be recited in a certain way at a various times of the day. Groupthink of sect reinforced. Jewish person puts on weight. Feels a bit lazy. Rabbi says study Torah, etc. etc. Jewish person puts on weight.

As I have been saying for many years people have to get out in the fresh air a bit more. There are 168 hours in a week. Say you are a family man. Sleep/Rest 63 hours. Shabbat 17 hours. Work 50 hours. Maintenance 15 hours. Play 19 hours. Exercise 4 hours.

So devoting at least four hours to exercise as part of a balanced lifestyle is easily achievable. Women, adolescents and children could easily follow this as well.

Kosher pigs????

Do we want to see yiddishe women running here and there like the hipsters in their shorts? besides since when is caring for 8 kinder not plenty of exercise! Let the goyim run and bisycle all they like, we will sit and learn to bring Moshiach and we will raise the kinder.

I'm Moshiach. You can all stop waiting.

No, I'm Moshiach!

Do we want to see yiddishe women running here and there like the hipsters in their shorts?

I think this is my favorite line from FM from the last six months.

nu will the real moshiach stand up please, its all wait and never any arrivals

Brian is moshiach!

Do we want to see yiddishe women running here and there like the hipsters in their shorts? besides since when is caring for 8 kinder not plenty of exercise! Let the goyim run and bisycle all they like, we will sit and learn to bring Moshiach and we will raise the kinder.

Posted by: Waiting4Moshiach | September 01, 2011 at 08:48 AM

and die doing it

moron maybe they are talking about fat men

i guess shuckling and peyos-twirling arent as calorie intensive as i thought.

Eating as a family and holiday meals do not cause obesity. Eating meals as a family in secular societies is encouraged in or to promote family and social stability.

Charedim, especially men, are obese because they don't exercise, and they choose to eat more filling starches. Men are discouraged from exercising, even those told to do so by their doctors. Most of them seem to gain weight after they get married.

Most schools do not teach nutrition. Those that do, often don't teach it well. Girls are encouraged to look emaciated in order to get a choson.

This article was written about obesity in Eretz Yisroel, not America, Europe or Australia. However, this article also applies to charedim living in other countries.

Don't forget, charedim are also taught that beauty is only skin deep. Many thin husbands say that their heavy wife is an eyshes chayil.

Let's not forget how much charedi men smoke.

Shmarya, you forgot to mention the bug phobia as it relates to broccoli, cabbage, lettuce, spinach, kale, parsley -- well, anything "green." This fear of greens is one reason the haredim/hasidim are so unhealthy and slobby fat.

In our home, it is traditional for me to prepare one cooked entree, one cooked side dish, and everything else is a raw salad. I make gorgeous, healthy, colorful and tasty salads if I do say so myself. I get many positive comments from guests as well as requests for recipes. But the haredim/hasidim we have had as guests? They usually don't want to come back!!! Not enough schmaltz, sugar, salt or chemicals for their taste. I had one black-hatter tell me point blank to my face that he didn't want to eat at my house anymore because I didn't serve enough meat dishes . . . A hasidic female friend of mine told me that when I put broccoli on the table, it freaks them out because then they assume I don't understand about checking for bugs. Bwahahahaaaaa!!! What can you do.

To batyahgirl@yahoo.com,

I know it is a mitzvah to accept guests into your home but the people you mention above sound very ungrateful. Like the two guys in the movie "Ushpizin". Unless of course they were great tzaddiks just having a bad day.

batyahgirl-

You have to ask these bugphobia people what they did before bodek brand vegetables. You have to remind them that we always ate vegetables and learned how to clean them. Also, tell them you checked everything with your Rav.

Even bugphobia people do not like veggies. They don't eat them, because they just don't. Frum people generally use too much salt and sugar in their foods.

To Bas Melech,

Your well named "bugaphobia" people remind me of a conversation I had in India in 1991. My girlfriend and I visited a Jain temple. One of their customs is to have a worker sweep in front of the path of the priest as he is walking in the Temple Grounds. They do this because they do not want to kill any living beings. Part of their pacifistic belief. (The pacifist thing is fine. i.e. There will be no violence when the mature Messianic Era is up and running.)

We sat down to have chai at the little stall there. A younger Jain priest, obviously a disciple type sat down next to us. We struck up a conversation in basic Hindi. He also spoke a little English. After about five minutes of discussing the finer points of his religion, and he was quite proud in an enthusiastic sort of way, I asked him if he knew that there were microscopic bugs everywhere. That when we scratched our eyelids we were actually killing bugs and organisms. He was a bit flummoxed by this argument and couldn't really respond. I wasn’t trying to point score, just gently trying to point out the inconsistencies in the faith. We didn’t labour the point and we wished him good luck and made our way.

So people worrying too much about the bugs in broccoli may have a slight OCD problem. I'm sure you aren’t talking about finding five centimetre long caterpillars in the steamer or some sort of tropical tarantula mixed in with the vegetables in the Wok. A little worm in an apple never killed anyone either. The West is a little too sterile at times in regards to food.

This is terrible, after all we don't want the haredim to die prematurely due to health problems related to obesity after all many of them have large families who depend on them.

There is an Orthodox rabbi (I'm not sure if he's Haredi or not) called Rabbi Ariel Bar Tzadok. If you Google him you'll read that he's very much in favour of physical fitness. In fact he himself is an advanced student of Chinese martial arts, especially wushu/ kung-fu. He quotes Rambam at length about the importance of physical fitness.
I disagree strenuously with Rabbi Bar Tzadok about mysticism (he's very pro-, I'm very anti-) but as far as physical fitness goes, he's right on! Or "spot on" as the English say.

Overweight is part of their hashkafa. Chassidim live to eat. Litvish eat to live.

Brian is moshiach!
Posted by: Skepticalyid


Welease Bwian! Welease Bwian!

recently there is a study in the U.S which shows people who attend church regularly are more obese than those who don't go

hareidim= hazerim.

Posted by: Adam Neira | September 01, 2011 at 11:39 AM

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
can you be more boring?

This is terrible, after all we don't want the haredim to die prematurely due to health problems related to obesity after all many of them have large families who depend on them.
Posted by: p | September 01, 2011 at 11:55 AM

P - sadly, you are incorrect. yes they do have large families, but no one depends on the parents for support b/c so few earn an honest living.

why so obese? aside from the aforemntioned horrible diet habits & ridiculous salad phobias, they cannot exercise b/c that will require a run in the park or using a gym which may mean seeing a woman in immodest clothing and...........

when one get older things like cycling are put down and they would say it is goyish

they can prevent obesity just by riding to and from shul

I remember in yeshiva exercise was and playing ball was looked down upon

interestedly one rebbie when i asked him what is this craziness he said he does not know all he knows is that when he went to yeshiva and went to play ball yakov kemnisky before he was rebbie was already there ready to play almost all the time

Its always sad to see young charedi kids with eyeglasses. I suspect it is because they spend all their time staring at their books - at fixed focus - "learning" and never getting out to play and using their eyes through varied focus distances.

excessive masturbation causes blindness.

P - sadly, you are incorrect. yes they do have large families, but no one depends on the parents for support b/c so few earn an honest living.

Its not just about the money. If someone has a large family and becomes disabled and cannot work, is it not a tragedy to the family if he meets an untimely death as someone who does the 9-5 gig? Dependency can be an emotional as well a financial thing.

Fat.

How fat?

Fat enough to slurp down an entire box of matzo meal with MSG laden chicken soup. Fat enough to bathe in cholent. Fat enough to have a heart attack and then recover while eating more garbage.

It's amazing what you can buy with food stamps, WIC, and other stuff stolen from the US taxpayer.

Look at some of those Satmar dudes.

Big, ugly, fat and disgusting.

Posted by: Bas Melech | September 01, 2011 at 10:48 AM

Or how about the fact that those idiots have made many fruits and vegetables assur? Just to make a fucking salad they have to check for bugs that no one used to care about. So in practice whos going to make a salad? Answer: no one unless it is for a special occasion. Remember when they tried banning tap water in new york? So what would those crpyto-jews drink? More dr. pepper? Think about this: There are hereidim out there who pride themselves on not eating salmon, broccoli, strawberries, lettuce and all other nutritious foods in between. Not only that but they don't work/exercise.

Succulent shishka
Schmaltz shmeared thickly on challah
Pastrami stacked 3 inches high on rye
Sugar-laden charoset

YUM!

Their non presence in the military explains the high figures more than anything else in my opinion.

To Stan,

Which stream of Judaism do you most identify with ?

Do you believe in the Twelfth Article of Faith ?

"The haredi lifestyle focuses on the dinner table…At the same time, they don't engage in any physical exercise."

They are a fat ass factory!

To Stan,
Do you believe in the Twelfth Article of Faith ?
Posted by: Adam Neira | September 01, 2011 at 08:19 PM

That is a Mormon concept you boring creep. You are undoubtedly the most boring poster on this site + you are a troll. I am shocked Shmarya hasnt banned you yet.

Its not just about the money. If someone has a large family and becomes disabled and cannot work, is it not a tragedy to the family if he meets an untimely death as someone who does the 9-5 gig? Dependency can be an emotional as well a financial thing.
Posted by: p | September 01, 2011 at 06:19 PM

When have you ever noticed a charedi dude being warm & fuzzy w/ his kids? They are mostly cold & distant, worrying abt the lettuce bugs or sof zman kriat shma instead of the welfare of their kids. If these parents cared abt their kids, they wd find gainful employment & get a life.

i have been to many charedi weddings & bar mitzvahs. you will NEVER EVER see a salad served. Typical menu: smorg is deli, deli & more deli. appetizer - pastry puff filled w/ ground beef & creamy sauce; then soup; then greasy chicken w/ mashed potatos & tzimis. dessert is always cake.

A possible reason for allowing 'kosher' sex toys.

When have you ever noticed a charedi dude being warm & fuzzy w/ his kids? They are mostly cold & distant

I don't believe that. Most people don't show affection in public. I think your bias or prejudice is showing.

it is very inexpensive to eat healthily in Israel. fresh vegetables and fruits as well as fava beans, garbanzo beans and other pulses can be obtained for 3-4 shekels a kilo at an open air shuk. Healthy vegetable and olive oils are reasonably priced. edible herbs like nettle, lavender, rosemary and others grow wild and can be obtained for free. (did you hear me, jews? free!)

I don't know about anyone else, but I don't like the idea of bugs in my food. If I'm lost in the woods for some odd reason, I will gladly eat as many bugs as possible to survive. As for every day life, I'll stick to proteins from fish, meats, and beans. Plus, when you buy foods from a supermarket, there is no way of knowing who touched your fruits and vegetables before you got to it. Think of all the people taking a dump, not washing their hands, and then rubbing their disgusting fingers all over your produce. Wash your fruits and vegetables!!!

They walk, ALOT. On shabbos in places like Williamsburg they climb a lot of stairs. Id be willing to bet its the diet - especially the large amounts of meat, of starches, of fat, of sugar (in nosh, and in the chassidish communities, in the entrees as well) and the paucity of vegetables and whole grains.

To Stan,

The Thirteen Articles of Faith are fundamental concepts of Judaism as explained by Maimonides in the Mishne Torah.

I'd rather be steady, "boring" and strong than chaotic, dramatic and brittle. My life has been so far from dull it is incredible but I do love a bit of peace and quiet now.

Shabbat Shalom !

I always enjoy reading Adam Neira's incisive insights.

7 TIMES, Goodness, the average obesity rate is min. 15 percent. there is no such thing as 7 times that. That would be 105 percent

I just came back from Lego City in Florida and was appalled by the obesity / unhealthy glow almost all of the Orthodox Jews there exhibited. It must have been a religious outing because I saw hundreds of overweight/ obese extremely sickly looking Orthodox Jewish families there. What do these people eat to become so misshapen and unhealthy looking? Almost everyone there had this unhealthy/sickening look to them. Keep in mind that middle America has a huge problem but this was universal to these visiters. What kind of diet and/or lack of exercise do they practice?

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