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September 13, 2011

Hasidic Rabbi Who Raped His Own Daughter Resentenced

Rabbi Israel Weingarten cropped,jpg Rabbi Israel Weingarten was originally convicted on 5 counts related to the systematic rape of his minor daughter and transporting this daughter across international borders to commit incest and rape.

Rabbi Israel Weingarten cropped,jpg
Rabbi Israel Weingarten

Originally published at 11:29 pm, 9-12-2011

Rabbi Israel Weingarten Re-sentenced To 30 Years In Prison
News Analysis: Hasidic rabbi raped his own daughter from when she was very young until she was able to flee her home at adulthood
Shmarya Rosenberg • FailedMessiah.com

Rabbi Israel Weingarten was originally convicted on 5 counts related to the systematic rape of his minor daughter and transporting this daughter across international borders to commit incest and rape.

He was sentenced to 30 years in federal prison.

But one count was later overturned on appeal because both legs of that particular trip were outside United States territory and therefore outside of US jurisdiction, and the case was sent back to the trial judge, Judge Gleeson, for resentencing.

Today that new sentence was handed down.

Originally, Judge Gleeson had sentenced Weingarten to ten years for each of the 5 counts, with the latter two to be served concurrently with the first three, for a total of 30 years.

Today, Judge Gleeson did essentially the same thing, giving Weingarten 10 years for each of the remaining 4 counts, with the last 10 to be served concurrently with one of the first 3 counts, for a total of 30 years in federal prison.

Judge Gleeson called Weingarten – who was known as a talmud chacham (a wise student of Jewish law and the Talmud) and who recently served as a sort of father figure for the ba'al teshuva students at Rabbi Leib Tropper's Kol Yaakov yeshiva in Monsey, New York – a "vicious predator."

Despite years of warnings in the various Satmar communities Weingarten lived in – in Europe, the United States and, briefly, Israel – that Weingarten was raping his daughter, Weingarten was not turned in to police and his daughter was not protected.

Even today after his conviction, leading haredi rabbis in Monsey, Jerusalem, England and Belgium continue to support Weingarten and efforts to have his conviction overturned.

Why?

Because the daughter Israel Weingarten raped over the course of a decade and a half is no longer hasidic or ultra-Orthodox.

In other words, because this raped and abused woman chose to leave haredi Judaism after all the years these haredi rabbis covered up for her father and failed to protect her, her testimoney about her father's rapes is not deemed trustworthy by many of these haredi 'gedolim.'

For others, the mere fact that she is a woman is enough to disqualify her testimoney.

And for both groups of rabbis, Weingarten's status as a noted "talmud chacham" trumps whatever crimes Weingarten committed, just like Rabbi Baruch Lanner's kiruv, outreach, trumped his crimes according to his bosses at the Orthodox Union.

Modern/Centrist Orthodox rabbis have made real steps toward making sure nothing like the Lanner Case happens again.

Those steps are imperfect, and many of Lanner's enablers still play leading roles in Orthodox communal life. But real, concrete steps have been taken nonetheless.

But this is not true of the haredi community, where active coverups of child sex abuse are ongoing and victims are persecuted and intimidated by leading rabbis – an, sometimes, by thugs representing those rabbis.

Even here, with all the evidence against Weingarten, his conviction and the failure of his appeal, haredi rabbis are once again punishing the victim of sex abuse while protecting and supporting her abuser.

Monsey Rabbis Visit Weingarten In Prison 1-11
Leading Monsey rabbis visiting Rabbi Israel Weingarten in federal prison in Virginia, January 2011

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I feel compelled to ask: WHERE IS THE MOTHER????

I'm glad he got a stiff sentence. He'll have lots of time to do Torah study and tshuva.

This guy is a slime, despicable insect.

...leading haredi rabbis in Monsey, Jerusalem, England and Belgium continue to support Weingarten and efforts to have his conviction overturned.

Why?Because the daughter Israel Weingarten raped over the course of a decade and a half is no longer hasidic or ultra-Orthodox.

Oh really? Now that is quite an "impressive" argument.

But wait, ignorance can always best itself..."For others, the mere fact that she is a woman is enough to disqualify her testimoney."

Nice, very nice. So much for the "chosen people" of God. If that is the case, hey! sign me up for hell anytime.

Because the daughter Israel Weingarten raped over the course of a decade and a half is no longer hasidic or ultra-Orthodox.

Gee I wonder why?

Because the daughter Israel Weingarten raped over the course of a decade and a half is no longer hasidic or ultra-Orthodox.

In other words, because this raped and abused woman chose to leave haredi Judaism after all the years these haredi rabbis covered up for her father and failed to protect her, her testimoney about her father's rapes is not deemed trustworthy by many of these haredi 'gedolim.'


I refuse to believe that the gedoylim of haredi Judaism condone giluy araiyot, specifically incest with one's daughter (Leviticus 18:10). It is among the sins so severe that one must give up one's life before transgressing, even under duress.

Maybe the "leading rabbis" continue to support him because he was their main supplier of supple, juicy young girls.

Why are some of our comments appearing in italics?

Because radical feminist used the tag....

Posted by: A E ANDERSON | Auckland, New Zealand | September 13, 2011 at 12:27 AM

You wrote “I refuse to believe that the gedoylim of haredi Judaism condone giluy araiyot, specifically incest with one's daughter (Leviticus 18:10).”

It is not a question if you believe what your eyes could read, or your ears hear. The fact is that there are a contingent of Rabbis who support his defense fund. I believe my lying eyes, so should you.

Posted by: A E ANDERSON | Auckland, New Zealand | September 13, 2011 at 12:27 AM

You wrote “I refuse to believe that the gedoylim of haredi Judaism condone giluy araiyot, specifically incest with one's daughter (Leviticus 18:10).”

It is not a question if you believe what your eyes could read, or your ears hear. The fact is that there are a contingent of Rabbis who support his defense fund. I believe my lying eyes, so should you.

Sorry I don't know how a got it posted twice.

The Tanach is clear that certain crimes put a person into a state of karet. The word means divine punishment. The exile of the Jewish people is a spiritual one that is connected to their level of awareness and merit. In fact the more meritorious you are the more mindful you are. What is going on now is a vast spiritual battle between different mindsets or group ideologies. Some sects are scattering victims and perpetrators everywhere. No one is born to be either a victim or a perpetrator.

What a balogna story on an innocent man ,

Here's a tag to close the italics. And good for Judge Gleeson.

What a balogna story on an innocent man ,
Posted by: jickyl | September 13, 2011 at 01:18 AM

Are you a molester too?

I refuse to believe that the gedoylim of haredi Judaism condone giluy araiyot, specifically incest with one's daughter (Leviticus 18:10). It is among the sins so severe that one must give up one's life before transgressing, even under duress.

Posted by: A E ANDERSON | Auckland, New Zealand | September 13, 2011 at 12:27 AM

The Charedim stopped following authentic Halacha long ago.

Please post the names of the rabbis so we can call them and let them know they are shitheads.

Is there any mechanism by which his smicha can be annulled so he doesn't have the Rabbi honorific?

This case is well known to me. The mother enticed the daughter to testify falsely and was given lots of money by her second husband to do so.
The Defendant Mr Weingartens children are all on his side they do not speak to the mother and sister.
Its a great shame that this happened.
(on a side note the mother is separated from her second husband and is trying to blackmail him for 1mm to take a get)
More info in another post later
gotta go now

I'm with you on this one Shmarya. This is chilling to the bone. Please keep the heat on these "rabbis".
I know for certain that if this were to happen to my sisters child, my faith
In anything these moronic rabbis preach- including the existence of a kind, benevolent G-D, would be destroyed.
For now, my faith is merely shaken to the core.
Hanging by the skin of it's teeth.

This guy better be real nice to the prison guards...
Or else one day the trusty will be given the job of cleaning the guards offices and this creep's file folder will be laying out in the open . [Oops forgot to put it away]

And the creep will be given to the prison's gay community as a 'present' and none will hear his screams

and moshe butler the convicted son of raphy butler from ncsy
runs a program for drug and sex offenders even though he is not allowed to run it

Justice has been served, yet again. There is a God!

Isaac, um what about the people she confided in when she was still a little girl and wearing her braids? There are many wittnesses from back home who were aware that this was happening, including a very big askan. so if you don't have anythin smart toSsay, don't say anything at all.

Just castrate him . Finished !

Judge Gleason, you should be blessed with all good things.

Weingarten's guilt must be extremely obvious. Even in state courts, sex crimes traditionally are hard to prosecute and the offender if found guilty often gets a weak sentence.

Why do the ultra-orthodox think that goyim and non-religious Jews are stupid and so gullible?

Why don't chareidim ask why the members of the menuval's family who claimed to have been abused are no longer frum according to charedi standards?

brooklyn mother - you don't know the facts . but at this point it doesn't make any difference what you believe or not he is in jail.
Since you care so much about the case. Please reachout to Shmarya and ask him how you can help out the Kids that are still at home without their father or mother. They dont have any money.

And you i do send them money every month.

Isaac and Jicky - I hope your victims, or the victims of the people you're protecting, have the strength to come forward one day. You are sick in the head.

Leo - you must be very relieved.

Posted by: isaac | September 13, 2011 at 07:05 AM

Without a doubt, you don’t know what you are talking about or you are a blatant liar. One, Israel’s wife did not get married only after the trial, so how did the poor woman pay of the daughter. Two, the first time the victim told for her school principle that she is being molested was in 1996 when she was only fourteen years old, Three, the mother didn’t seek a divorce until 2003.

Posted by: isaac | September 13, 2011 at 09:24 AM

Again, you fail in your endeavor; all but one kid are married.

Isaac, I too am familiar with the case. Why are you lying? You surely know that as soon as this slime went to jail ALL his children got married! Weingarten prevented them from doing shidduchim while he controlled them - for fear they would share with others what was happening in the house. Why, too are you bringing the mother into the picture? Surely if you are "familiar with the case" you must know what an abused, tormented, downtrodden woman she is! Shame on you for bringing up her second marriage, which Israel Weingarten's long hand from jail actually ruined by putting one of his henchmen into the Rebbe's (her second husband) house.
Israel Weingarten is NOT a Rabbi - he has no Smicha, he is NOT a talmid Chochom, he has NO Yiras Shomayim, he is a Shiyan Daled! (In English - the Devil incarnate)
Let it be know to the general public: Israel Weingarten was convicted and is serving a sentence for incest he committed with his oldest daughter. What is not well known is that he committed the same crime with his second daughter for which he is not (yet) facing any charges. For this second daugher Israel Weingarten changed his modus operandi. Instead of being abusive and terrorizing, like with the oldest daughter, he turned the second daughter into his LOVER and showered her with compliments and constantly compared her to her hapless mother, whom they both abused. If this is making you too sick to read, I believe you. It should make all of us sick. In closing, I would like to say that the poor mother, who lives in Monsey, is so blackmailed by the Chareidi community that no one will give this "willing to work hard" woman a job and she is in fact penniless and is being supported by the Rabbonim of Monsey who fought for the truth and who gave her explicit permission to testify against her husband in court.

Posted by: No Light | September 13, 2011 at 10:08 AM

Believe it or not, if you know the case in detail as I know it, you would understand that in the trial he was exposed as sick predator, and no amount of support by the Rabbis would move the needle one iota. Judge John Gleeson is one the best judges in southern district, he was the prosecutor who did put away John Gotti for life in prison need I say more?

"Please reachout to Shmarya and ask him how you can help out the Kids that are still at home without their father or mother. They dont have any money."

LIAR! LIAR! Not one of them are at home! They are married and some of them are living as Jewish Arabs in Montreal with that other sicko, Helbrans. Yes, the one of Shiya Fima fame. The woman wear the Hijab and the men are prevented from working.

DO NOT SEND ANY MONEY FOR ANY WEINGARTEN APPEALS - NOT FOR THE MARRIED CHILDREN NOR FOR LEGAL APPEALS!


Why?Because the daughter Israel Weingarten raped over the course of a decade and a half is no longer hasidic or ultra-Orthodox.

And on such has been said, " Haratzachta vegam yarashta? ", yadeichem mleim dam, kulam menoafim, rodfei shalmonim. How true, but sad. You can see it all just by watching the watchers. What a chilul Hashem.


Them same creepy so called rabbonim that support St. Lawrence to be reelected....

BS You have not presented the opinions of rabbis that condemn him. Why? Bc you cannot stand that there are people out there in the chassidic world that are great?

What made me really mad that this pig enjoys protective custody within the federal prison, reactive guest like king on the prison yard, and even not required to wear prison uniform. His custody over his daughter was opposite of to be protective, so why the government should offer him protective custody? The guy should be placed with the general prison population serving long sentences for violent crimes! And if he does not want to be raped and killed (what he actually deserved), well, let place him in protective custody, but with all consequences, like other inmates enjoying protective custody he should follow all rules of prison discipline and volunteer to the hardest and dirtiest works. The guy should wear orange robe and clean prison restrooms. He does not want it either-well, he can serve his 30 years in solitary confinement 23/1.

BS You have not presented the opinions of rabbis that condemn him. Why? Bc you cannot stand that there are people out there in the chassidic world that are great?

Posted by: Another Disgruntled Reader | September 13, 2011 at 01:07 PM

Because the opinions of those rabbis are self evident and are actually included in my response to them.

The Torah forbids male homosexuality. Aggadic texts cite homosexuality as the source of certain natural disasters – often the the same texts which said the earth is flat. These aggadic texts see endorsing gay marriage as a heinous crime.

Of course, we do not as a rule paskin from aggadatah, and the aggadatah in question does not take into account the workings of a democratic society.

And perhaps most importantly, even in its non-aggadic sections, the science of these texts is often spectacularly wrong.

But knowing any of this, let alone understanding any of this, requires looking at the data with an open mind and doing some fact checking.

You didn't do that and you probably will not do that, and neither did or will the rabbis in question.

In particular, Rav Moshe's position on not joining with the pro-life movement (because it wants to ban all abortions, and banning all abortions is an an anti-Jewish, anti-halakhic position) is a position these rabbis and people like you should think long and hard about.

Isaac, talk to the ones in charge of Rubashkin's defense fund and have them divert some of the millions to the children, if indeed, there are children still at home. (Which I highly doubt.) CPS would have intervened.

Posted by: Russian PhD | September 13, 2011 at 01:17 PM

No, he is not in protective custody and he is wearing the same uniform as everybody else.

There was a Satmar guy on Tropper's beis din the one with Pinchus Rabinovitz. Is Weingarten the guy ?

This is what you get from listening to rabbis. It starts with concert bans, indian wig bans, etc. May their names be erased permanently from both worlds!

After Weingarten was arrested we were asked to do some investigation. We declined because we were involved in other matters but what troubles me about the comments to this posting are the incorrect assumptions re weingarten's terms of prison confinement and that men of good character do not believe that Weingarten committed these crimes. A conviction is just that, but people can believe what they choose but you people who comment about those people expressing their opinions or supporting Weingarten are doing so with good intentions. You, who are attacking them, are doing so with bad intent and are usually doing so a cloak cloak of internet invisibility. At least those rabbis who are supporting Weingarten are doing so openly and have nothing to fear, you hidden ones are doing a disservice to justice and truth. He has been found guilty, now the healing must continue for both the victim and the perpetrator.

Posted by: Moshe | September 13, 2011 at 10:20 PM

Get real, you were asked to do an investigation, who the hell are you, what is your expertise, The FBI had a slew of investigators who went to Belgium, England and Israel to ascertain the facts, and based on their investigation, he was tried and convicted in a court of law. That is not good enough for you, but a few Rabbis who would not shy away from lying and putting children in harm’s way, that is good intention. Talking about the internet anonymity, and calling the kettle black, what is your full name?

This guy Isaac probably takes it up the ass from his gayboys in the mikva, frustrated he can't last ten seconds with his wife without busting a nut, poor impotent shmuck. Probably fantasizes that weingarten does him too.

To anyone suppporting weingarten, either drop dead, or in the words of our great Chazal, go fuck yourselves.

this story actually makes me so sad.. irrelevant that he was a charedi rabbi etc....the fact that a father can callously abuse his own flesh and blood repeatedly sickens me. being a father myself I can not cope with the idea how sick and low a human being can become to steep to such a level.....this guy deserves to rot in jail until he dies and then buried in some remote corner of the cemetery . I have only pity for his daughter and hope somehow she can or has recovered from this ordeal

There are a lof rumors about Tropper himself abusing his own twin daughters and the COS one time got involved. Maybe Ruthi and the others can elaborate.

It's only a pity the judge can't resentence him to being hanged by the gazengas over a slow fire or thrown into General Population with "Babyraper" tattooed on his forehead.

regarding one of mendy's first comments.

guess what they've got someone down in Melbourne Australia with the same 'disease'. loving his own daughters and ruining their lives. and nobody's liftin' a finger their.

At least this satmar guy got put away.

interesting that the aussie guy that likes screamin and shoutin so much on this issue is silent in this conversation.
anyone who's ever visited Melbourne knows about this.
common aussie, speak up.
only have a problem with folks molestin' lil boys eh?
see the link?

yid in tulsa......who is being molested in Melbourne?.....come on don't make unfounded accusations....lets hear a name please otherwise your claim has no credibility!!!!!!

Posted by: Yid in Tulsa | September 15, 2011 at 01:56 AM

You wrote, “At least this satmar (sic) guy got put away. He was put away not by the community; it took the victim five years to get his ass. For over ten years, the community largely set on their duffs.

@thelion - you're 100% right (M Butler). it's a fucking charade to avoid jail. guy's fucked over a few people over small money he "borrows" yet rarely pays back. he's the same scumbag he always was in my book. i was in FL at the same facility

Is Weingarten "the chassidic guy" Tropper was trying to pimp the woman he was converting and cajoling to cavort with his friends... Sounds like Weingarten couldnt get a job at any respectable institution ("S'iz genig az men redt") but Tropper didnt mind his reputation because Tropper had his own skeletons.

Who knows, maybe Tropper had no problem with pimping out his own kids... @bassy haredi slayer its not public why child services got involved with the Tropper girls, but is it really the public's business? The real question is -- where was the other parent when the abuse took place? Both in Weingarten's case and the Tropper case.

The real question is, should someone be investigating if Troppers's daughters are safe from him?

yes these are probably the same rabbis that support st lawrence

Guys I am a family member with weingarten. I know sure that he didn't do noting

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