Audit Finds Haredi-Controlled School Board Bungled Millions Of Dollars

East Ramapo's haredi-controlled school board played fast and loose with the school district's money, a comptroller's report says – often to the benefit of the haredi school board members themselves or to haredi yeshivas.

Haredi members of East Ramapo's school board continued to get health care coverage long after they stopped paying for it; the school district 'lost track' of $2.4 million in textbooks loaned to private religious schools, almost all of which are haredi yeshivas; and contracts for services, including the district's new attorney brought in by haredim to help direct more funds and services to yeshivas and less to the public schools the board is supposed to manage and serve. In response, the haredi school board members claim the comptroller's report is riddled with inaccuracies. The haredi school board member's children all attended, yeshivas, private religious schools. The board's former president, Nathan Rothchild, was recently convicted of fraud in an unrelated case.

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Comments

[adams]

haha. Another thing that has come to my attension is the outlandish salaries some of these fruma principals are getting. This would make for an interesting story.
For example, at the Yeshiva of North Jersey, hard to say what sort of Yeshiva it is exactly. That is, the parents all work but they dress code and so on. the principal is a Charedishi fellow that is his boys are Kollel people I believe. THis man is getting 300K salary and his wife works there for an additional 100K. Seems like a bit much for a principal. granted he is great and all that. This at a time where the parents have to shell out now additional costs for the school bus, some $1000 per child that they weren't paying in the past. hell yeah.

[seymour]

Haredi-Controlled School Board Bungled Millions Of Dollars

why is this news this is really only business as usual when heridem take over school board

real news would be

Haredi-Controlled School Board spend money wisely and helped save the public school system and did not funnel money to their religious schools.

If that ever happens then the question must be asked

are they really heridiem (I say this in response to "Levi aron cannot be a Jew or frum)

[anuran]

The correct word is "stole", not "bungled"

[R.W.]

OMG, check out the hateful comments on the site.

[ruthie]

good morning!!!!

[ruthie]

it's quite sad.
here they were in a position to help educate. and did exactly the opposite.

[Michael from Lakewood]

Easy to do when you don't regard other parties as people.

[rabbi nuchem rosenberg]

what does yesroel hager hamitzre say now,how much was reb mottella in this

[jancsipista]

well this is thier trademark misdirecting money why is this such a surprise they specialize in this, its like trusting the fox with the hen it sa given the money will end up in their pocket no surprise to me.

[anuran]

RW - I read all the comments. There's outrage. There's anger. But hate? No. Being angry at a bunch of Jews for being thieves is not the same as hating them for being Jews.

[seymour]

OMG, check out the hateful comments on the site.

Posted by: R.W. | September 03, 2011 at 11:32 PM

yes they hate that the tax payers are getting ripped off that the taxes are going to a select people, that the school board is destroying public education the thing they where voted in to protect.

they are pissed that public school are being closed and then amazingly the former school building are sold on the cheap to yeshivas

[seymour]

I wonder if anybody made a study or if it is possible, to see if there is a correlation of rising antisemitism in a given country and the influx of ultra Orthodox. Or the influx of the ultra Orthodox in the public sphere like running community boards.

I think this would be interesting to see, then the idea of the frum Asuf son leyakov is really a self fulfilling prophecy that they create by their own actions and does satisfy many of their needs always being the victim because of other people actions never theirs

it would also end the myth portrait by the frum that it is the secular that causes all the problem for Jews including frum jews (god is punishing them - satmar rebbie and others)

if that is so it is not that simple assuf sono leyakovm it is because yakov adds fuel to the fire by their actions. and yakov is not the secular but the ulra frum and their actions.

PS if one thinks the world was created just for them, that they are much better than others, the others and less humane, that ethics can be forgotten when dealing with gentile ( we all know where it says that) how do you think others will respond to that?

[F-New Square]

Hello Rockland County Prosecutor Zugibe? Hello? Are you there? Hello?

[seymour]

RW - I read all the comments. There's outrage. There's anger. But hate? No. Being angry at a bunch of Jews for being thieves is not the same as hating them for being Jews.

Posted by: anuran | September 04, 2011 at 08:37 AM

but to people like rw that might be antisemitic since they will say they are not stealing since what they did is permitted by halacha so then what they did is kosher and any criticism is anyti semitic

['Yechiel']

Seymour:
The mirror will help you discover who the real anti semites are...

[jancsipista]

yechiel- maybee you should look into the mirror yourself also, it takes one to know one.

[Simple Jew]

B"H

The mostly frum jew run school board in the 5 towns in LongIsland is doing an amazing job at lowering costs and educating public school children (scores have been improving on state tests).

[Simple Jew]

B"H

I forgot to mention -- just to give you an idea of how well the FRUM school board in Cedarhurst/Lawrence is doing: one of the "public school parent" candidates that lost to them in an election a few years ago wrote a letter to a local paper saying how impressed he is with the board and the work they have done.

We have an obligation to educate all of the children in the district.

Support vouchers.

[F-New Square]

Maybe instead of paying taxes, I should just drive around New Square throwing money out the window. As a local tax payer, I am just so f-ING sick of this. No action from Zugibe. No action from Vanderturd. No action from the state. Its like having a thousand weak eyed sickly looking New Square foster kids.

[ruthie]

the children in the public schools in the east ramapo school district are losing AP classes, art classes, gym, after school activities ALL BECAUSE THE HAREDIM HERE ARE A BUNCH OF IDIOTS.
bravo to the long island frum people....sounds like a smart bunch.
here in monsey...we have a bunch of retarded frum people. and skilled thieves.
retarded skilled thieves....very serious...very sad
they laugh at the nonfrum community because of BLOC VOTING.

[anuran]

Yechiel, you can only scream "Antisemitism!" for so long to cover up the crimes of your fellow cultists. These people are thieves. They would be thieves if they were Baptists. They bring shame on all Jews.

The difference is that the rest of us are capable of shame. People like you are convinced the world was created for your benefit alone. The most you can muster is anger that you are being inconvenienced.

[Aron Weider Sucks Dicks]

Weider you lying sack of shit crook. Shove your bullshit excuses up the next chussoid's ass you fuck.

[F-New Square]

Where's an outbreak of mumps when you need one?

[seymour]

Seymour:
The mirror will help you discover who the real anti semites are...

Posted by: 'Yechiel' | September 04, 2011 at 09:40 AM

the problem with you and many other very frum people is that, you cannot conceive that some frum people are corrupt and then when people point it out that person is a self hating Jew or antisemitic. and even if somehow one realizes that did commit a crime they will say it is only a crime as per secular law not halachcha so no big deal (like the halachca excuses people make for the boys who smuggles the stuff into japan they knew they where smuggling something yet in the frum sites they are just innocent yeshiva boys who did not even remotely do anything wrong)

I will always remember my heridie yeshiva days when one day I got a tongue lashing because I was wearing bell bottoms by the rosh yeshiva. The very next day that same rebbie asked me to sign papers that I working for the yeshiva a LIE so that the yeshiva can get money from the government.

amazingly the only boy in the yeshiva who did not sign was the only boy who wore bell bottoms.

these things have been going on for a long time in the ultra Orthodox community even meir yeshiva in Brooklyn honored a person one day after being realized from prison. I was in beis medriesh that day and was shocked since until then i thought that only happened by chassideish yeshivas not litvish

It seems that many the leaders, the community, people like you condone such actions for what you perceive the greater good. You condone because one never condems

another example, my parents house was robbed by frum boys on shoabbos before there was an erav. when i told people the story every single one responded, "they carried on shabbos how could that be a frum boy carrying"

not one person said a frum boy stealing. not one single soul

should i list for you the frum yeshivas that have been involved in financial fraud, from small nobody yeshivas to satmar and bobov.

You know the list well, now can you list the reform and conservative yeshivas or day school that have been convicted off fraud? How many where there? even thought the combined number of yeshivas or day schools from the MO (yes I am including frum yeshivas, i know you might not consider them frum)reform and conservative is much greater in number the number of scandals is much smaller, why can you answer that?

There can be only two answers.

1. simply they do not do fraud that much I am sure that some do
2. they do as much fraud but they are just much smarter then the frum and do not get caught. that would shatter the claim gemorah kup

my guess it is 1.

the reason could be, that from a young age and in MO reform and consecutive yeshivas and from the leaders they put much more effort and time in teaching ethics and how to behave to others including gentiles. As a matter of fact most frum yeshivas do not touch that issue or teach it or speak about it, why?

The first time i went to a conservative shul and then when i went to a reform shul, i was taken aback ( i was still frum) how much time the rebbie spent of ethics morals and stuff like that, that one can see from that weeks parsha

if a reform conservative of MO gets caught or a yeshiva they are not protected by the others, and the leaders and the community say they have sinned and they need to be punished and need to regain respect from the community before they can again be honored members of the community and regain their prior postilion or standing in the community

no so in the frum world.

first they are excuses nebech he needed to feed his family and screams of antisemitism and frame up not matter how clear the evidence is.

Secondly the perpetrators suffer no shame, no reprimand, no scorn from the community and even while in prison are still tzadikium honored members of the community and when released they are treated as heroes who sat in jail for the crime of being a yid and not because they committed crimes

all the rebbies that where jailed or ran to Israel because of the lunch program scandals, nursing home scandal, pell grant scandal, youth core scandal, stores listed as yeshiva scandal in Kj, programs for the handicap when there where no such program just to name a few. those people involved from the spinka rebbie to pinter suffered no reprimand from the gedolem or from the community they where treated as victims of antisemitism.

explain why that is so

on a side note when i talk to my old yeshiva friends and many frum friends they confide to me in private never public that the above is a problem in their community and that the conservative and reform do a better job in battled those issues

Just a point, when they help rallies for SMR and rebbies spoke about SMR and why he is in jail

they said SMR is being punished because so many yiddin are going to secular courts instead of beis din or other crap like that

amazingly no godel or rebbie stated the obvious maybe this is a lesson not to do fraud, or not the play loose with ones books.

They cannot be that stupid so the only answer is they approve and condone such actions and it is not a sin in their minds.

I am sure a MO reform. conservative would have stated the obvious.

this is a harsh lesson for us, please do not cook your books, do not commit fraud since this will get you in trouble and bring shame to the Jewish people

amazingly the frum rebbies could no and did not say that, Instead they blamed everybody and everything except fraud

[devorah]

They threatened to take away sports because they said sports aren't important. They threatened to take away foreign languages, because they felt goyim didn't need to learn a foreign language. (But Yiddish is permissible!)They threatened to take away art and music because they said parents can pay for this on their own. The students have been learning from ripped text books, many of which are over ten years old. Some are written BEFORE the internet!! All along, taxes have increased annually. Most of the comments from the Journal News are from secular JEWS (like myself) who are up in arms, but nothing will happen to the crooks. Anti semitism? You bet!!! I now hate every Chasid for the theft from our kids. The board President was convicted of mail fraud. The board VP was arrested and is now running on the Democratic ticket (and will most likely win.) The other two members are slumlords who don't even provide running water or heat.

Enjoy our over 2 million dollars of "lost" textbooks, little chasid runts, all dressed alike in your dirty drapery clothing, with your runny noses, pregnant moms and grandmoms and fifteen siblings.

[jancsipista]

seymour- you forgot to mention all the frum molesters why are there so many of them compared to nonfrummies, look the more religious you are the more separated you are from the real world and dont want to be part of it, the frummies thing they are the only ones who know the truth so why care about others oppinions.

[ruthie]

devorah....i hope people who don't live in monsey understand you.
PEOPLE...the haredim destroyed an excellent school system in east ramapo. voted themselves on to the school board, took all the money and cut ALL the public school programs.
beyond sad. every public school child deserves an excellent education.

[seymour]

B"H

The mostly frum jew run school board in the 5 towns in LongIsland is doing an amazing job at lowering costs and educating public school children (scores have been improving on state tests).

Posted by: Simple Jew | September 04, 2011 at 11:29 AM

please prove your point with a link to the study

If i remember correctly there where use and lawsuit in your frum school too

[seymour]

Posted by: Simple Jew | September 04, 2011 at 11:29 AM

it seems your board is being sued for doing the same thing the ramapo school board did close schools and then sell it to yeshivas

I do not see a pattern do you?

[seymour]

Posted by: jancsipista | September 04, 2011 at 06:41 PM

not sure if there are more but if they are the same they can do hundreds of times more damage because of the none reporting and protection racket beis dein provides

[Pearl of Wisdom]

The ONLY comparison between Lawrence and East Ramapo is the F***ing Lawyer. ER 90% kids of color, 33%poor. They sold a building for 30 Million dollars and lived off that money with no tax increases in Lawrence for 6 years. Now, that money is gone, let's see what happens next.

None of this is a mistake. We kept asking aobut the books and never got an answer. People have been saying for years that the books from ER are being told to Yeshivas in Brooklyn. A Former Board member told me himself.

The administrators need to be fired and the Board needs to resign. That is what a decent person would do.

The members who didn't pay 15K in insurance were the same people who laid off teacher aids who made 18K for an entire year! How disgusting!

The kids in Spring Valley HATE the Jews. That is the lesson that the Hasidic's are teaching our kids. There will be blood if this does not stop. The Supt. tells the public school parents just last month that the public school kids don't NEED NEW BOOKS! I guess we don't need schools or teachers either.

Remember the old adage:
Bears make money,
Bulls make money,
PIGS GET SLAUGHTERED!!!!!

[Pearl of Wisdom]

Sorry, stats are East Ramapo 90% children of color 67% poor.

Lawrence 66% children of color, 33% poor.

Lawrence is much better off and I don't know what you refer to 'frum', but the pics I have seen of the Board are what I would describe as Orthodox, not Hasidic. I think when we had Orthodox members, they were much more concerned for our kids. Not perfect mind you, but much better than what we have now...that's for sure.

[Flatbusher]

1. The Ultra Orthodox Have many children

2. They say going to college is ain.

3. Hence no professions.

4. Stealing from Medicaid/Section 8 / Food Stamps is a mitzvah to take from the anti semites.

5 There is no excuse for not haveing money. However whatever.

6. The bad news: The 'goyim' are waking up and are not scared by the black hats, black coats etc.

7. Expect Rikers island to becomer blacker.

[chussid]

Baruch Hashem that these people are using the democratic process to get representation. If they want lower taxes and don't like public schools, they can vote them down to a level they like. They can also get services for the majority who voted them in, like good politicians. This is truly a medinah shel chessed.

[seymour]

Posted by: chussid | September 04, 2011 at 09:33 PM

just because a majority votes them in does not give then the right and does not meant what they do is right

it seems they are breaking many laws and diverting money to religious school which of course is illegal and amoral

i guess if a majority want to persecute the chassdeim and kick them out of the country you would just say

they are the majority

thank god if that happens majority wins

[seymour]

Posted by: Flatbusher | September 04, 2011 at 09:26 PM

they where never afraid of the chassideim they where afraid of being labeled antisemitic.

however with the ever increasing scandals that the black hats are involved in the public is not afraid of their Bs argument every time you accuse them that you are antisemitic.

if we are ever the see an increase of antisemitisn in the USA us other Jews should not be afraid to point a finger at them and say you caused it, you are at fault, you give us all a bad name.

i wonder how many times in history antisemitism grew because of such actions?

['Yechiel']

Seymour:
You are burnt out. Es vet dir gurnisht helfen. You can scream till you turn blue but Monsey and vicinity have become increasingly 'black' and continue to do the same. The government should have provided our needs so we do not have to resort to bullying our way around. It is mere survival we are fighting for. Separation of church and state was intended to benefit religion, not hurt it. So in fact the government should support religious institutions rather than put the squeeze on them.

Public schools are shutting down due to a decrease in secular population; little to do with finances.

On another note: I do not like nor do I support crooks. I am very vocal about it. However, politics is politics and it is rarely played nicely. So, in fact, in American culture Wieder and company should be no less heroic than any other 'successful' politicians.

[devorah]

"The government should have provided our needs so we do not have to resort to bullying our way around."

Yechiel

Go get a freakin job

[seymour]

'Yechiel'

Separation of church and state was intended to benefit religion, not hurt it
------------------------------------------------

you really need to go back to school

it was to protect the people from the tyranny when religion intermingles with the government. as we can see in this case and in many cases when religion plays a role in politics.

what the ramabo board is doing is illegal immoral unethical, but of course this thing mean nothing to many frum yiddin as long as you wear the malbech, daven, eat only cholov yisreal.

please explain why we do not see reform MO conservative organization involved in a scandal a day like the untra frum ones

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Wieder and company should be no less heroic than any other 'successful' politicians.

you should say as successful as any crook,

since they are siphoning funds and that is crooked

it is very sad that to many frum people crum, stealing scam is just simple not an issue as long as someone did it cleverly.

['Yechiel']

Devorah
I have a job; not a freaking one, but a pretty decent one. I also believe that everyone should earn an honest living. That said, I also believe that the government should invest equally in religious and secular educational facilities. Both keep children off the streets (that's more or less the purpose of the school system nowadays) and occupied.

['Yechiel']

Seymour
"please explain why we do not see reform MO conservative organization involved in a scandal a day like the untra frum ones"

Because they weren't caught yet...

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" you should say as successful as any crook, since they are siphoning funds and that is crooked"

Precisely; politicians at work.

BTW. Do you have a job? Does your employer know that you so much of his time on FM?
Just sayin'

['Yechiel']

Oops. I meant - BTW. Do you have a job? Does your employer know that you spend so much of his time on FM?

[seymour]

yecheil

yes he does since I am the employer and it is labor day and yesterday was Sunday

"please explain why we do not see reform MO conservative organization involved in a scandal a day like the untra frum ones"

Because they weren't caught yet...

so then you must concede that Talmudic study does not make one smarter at all it makes one dumber

so in these 20 years of so that we had scandal after scandal after scandal by heredie yeshivas all you can say is duh the secular Hebrew school where not caught yet

are you serious is that all you can muster as a response.

even vin readers had a hard time answering that question and they came up with a conservative yeshiva where the students stole the regents. Good comparisons. students stealing the regents to rebbies who committed massive fraud in the millions sure seems like the same thing who can argue with that

get over it, they simply have morals and do not think it is ok to cheat, scam goyim, the government like the frum do. It simply would not be tolerated by their community as it is by the frum community the shame would be to great.

By the frum when one gets caught there is no shame no reprimand from the rebbies and or community as a whole

[Simple Jew]

B"H

Seymour

Time is limited but this secular jewish owned newspaper wrote their endorsement of the FRUM 5 towns orthodox majority school board. NOTE: the same editor of the Herald a few years earlier was always opposed to the "frum board"

http://www.liherald.com/stories/Approve-District-15-budget-keep-incumbents-on-the-board,32782

I can get you more examples but honestly its kind of a waste of time.

[curiosity]

Yes, the word "bungled" is certainly a euphemism. People ought to think very carefully about the consequences of blurring the boundaries between "church and state." This reckless hurry to privatize public education, is a problem that is occurring all over the United states. This is paving the road towards rampant corruption, and exploitation of public school communities everywhere. This type of practice does not bode well for the future of our citizens.

[Aron Weider Sucks Dicks]

Zugibe you dumb goy, get off your ass and start indicting these hassidick crooks or you will not be re-elected. Fuck you too for tolerating these hassids jacking off on the law under your nose.