Anti-Evolution Haredim On 76th And Broadway

"As I was walking by west 76 st and Broadway on the upper west side of manhattan, I noticed this wacky site. Black hatted guys standing around discussing evolution with non jews telling them how its a fraud. On top of this car were three stuffed animals and their babys. People pulled out their phones to take pictures of the crazy scene. I thought I saw it all. I guess not."

A reader emails:

"As I was walking by west 76 st and Broadway on the upper west side of manhattan, I noticed this wacky site. Black hatted guys standing around discussing evolution with non jews telling them how its a fraud. On top of this car were three stuffed animals and their babys. People pulled out their phones to take pictures of the crazy scene. I thought I saw it all. I guess not."

Related Post: "Haredi" Anti-Evolution "Exhibit" Opens Tomorrow On NYC's Upper West Side.

Comments

[jancsipista]

theese wackos are on a mission to make themselfs into the joke, and the laughting stock of everyone dont they have anything better to do? what fools they are mocking themselfs into oblivion.

[Adam Neira]

"Free the stuffed animals !"

- PETA

[Garnel Ironheart]

Sometimes it's better just to let people make fools of themselves instead of trying to do it for them.

[Korbendallas72]

I smell a psyop.

This is timed to coincide with not only Rosh Hashaha but Ahmadinejad in Manhattan, Turkey provoking both Israel and Syria on Gaza, and it's election season in the US.

Which sect are these Haredim from? Are they NK?

[Maple Bacon]

Stuffed animal matryoshkas!

Hehe--someone ought to put a Hot Wheels car next to a remote control car, which will be placed next to that car.

[Aleksandr Sigalov]

Deut. 32:28 For they are a nation void of counsel, neither is there any understanding in them.

[Litvish]

This is how they think or rather lack critical thinking ability.

Only someone raised on a steady diet of cholent, shmaltz, and glatt kosher gummy bears could come up with such a wonderful way to interact with their fellow bnei odom.

Interesting that they chose to do this on the upper west side of Manhattan instead of Brooklyn where no one would even notice them.

[RightJew]

Attention Jewish evolutionist liberals - if you are true to your beliefs then you should have no problem with this statement:

"Benjamin Wiker said that according to Darwin, the European race, following the inevitable laws of natural selection, will emerge as the distinct species, human being, and all the transitional forms—such as the gorilla, chimpanzee, Negro, Australian aborigine and so on—will be extinct (Wiker 2002:250)."

http://creationwiki.org/Darwin_himself_was_racist_%28Talk.Origins%29

[NeverFrum]

Just because they missed out and didn't evolve like the rest of us is no reason to deny evolution.

[Racytorah]

See shocking video of Haredim rubbing against frum women. See migron sep 9.

[Turd Degree]

I'm just relieved to see these poor animals getting some daylight after spending the entire evening being shtupped by these bearded , foul smelling, two legged beasts.

[Max]

Posted by: RightJew | September 21, 2011 at 06:41 PM

You're a racist. You should be ashamed of yourself.

I once heard a lecture from a professor on evolution. Basically he said that all humans evolved from monkeys. He proved his thesis based on blacks looking like monkeys. He claimed that blacks are still half monkeys, while whites already ecolved into full humans.

I almost vomited from that lecture. I promised myself that I would never believe in evolution again.

Sick people.

[OMG]

Posted by: Racytorah | September 21, 2011 at 07:32 PM

It is about time that the government enforces the rule of law, demolishing the illegal outpost, is the only answer to lunatics

[OMG]

Posted by: Max | September 21, 2011 at 07:49 PM

You just quoted Nazi doctrine, you don’t know what you are talking about, no professor would say anything close to what you claim, maybe you heard that in the Yeshiva, or better you just made up the story.

[Fleishike Kishke]

"He claimed that blacks are still half monkeys."

That was also Y.Y. Schneersohn and his father S.B. Schneerson of Lyubavitch.

[RightJew]

Max, Good point about Nazi doctrine which is derived from the grand rebbe of the evolutionist liberals - Charlie Darwin.

Too bad you read my post incorrectly and you then fired the R word at me immediately (like a good liberal). In fact I quoted Darwin's doctrine but nowhere did I state my support for it.

[anuran]

RightJew,

Benjamin Walker was a fucking liar. Lying fucksticks like yourself have been trying to project your own racism on him since about the time he first published.

Charles Darwin was a scion of the Wedgewood family. Like them he was a staunch believer in treating all men well. The Wedgewoods had some of the most progressive policies towards their employees. On the voyage of the Beagle Darwin was notable for paying and treating local workers, yes non-European ones, exactly the same as the White ones.

His belief in the common descent of Mankind was radical in its day. Most smug bastards like yourself believed god made White Men to be the Master Race and had a heirarchy for the lesser races. People like you believed and still believe that this was true, but that any kike with a bobbed dick and a long beard was superhuman.

This Great Chain of Being was useful for class-obsessed conservative types like yourself. It put god's stamp of approval on your Divine Right to shit on everyone who wasn't quite like you.

And before you start dragging the NAZ in consider that under Dolf Schickelgruber the teaching of Darwinian evolution was illegal. It was dangerously Communist or Jewish or something of the sort. Same thing under Stalin who preferred the pseudo-science of Lysenko.

The Gentle Saint Darwin takes it on the chin from fanatical cultists of all sorts. That's why he had friends like Huxley.

[anuran]

Max, I'm not sure if you're a liar or an ignoramus. No modern biologist would spout the bullshit you claim this one did.

Which "professor" was it? When did he say it? Was this in a biology class or the Volksfront meeting you go to to whack off at?

[Waiting4Moshiach]

Nebech, I have seen too many a Yungerman pick up a science book for this or that, then he learns evolution instead of torah, and then he is dancing with a shiksa on a Yom Tov. It all begins with a science book so let the goyim have science, HaShem gave us Torah!

[RightJew]

Goyboy Anuran -

Your moronic rant is almost enough to make me believe you are the missing link between man and ape.

In response to your anti-Semitic epithet: May you go straight to hell with all the rest of the Jew hating vermin.

[ah-pee-chorus]

Goyboy Anuran -

Your moronic rant is almost enough to make me believe you are the missing link between man and ape.

In response to your anti-Semitic epithet: May you go straight to hell with all the rest of the Jew hating vermin.

Posted by: RightJew |

so youre upset at some perceived anti-semitic comment, though i dont see what youre referring to. but in your anger and ignorance you hurl the term "goyboy" at him. so being a 'goy' is a pejorative. i guess you dont realize how hypocritical it is to use such a bigoted term when accusing someone else of saying something anti-semitic.

[Seraphya]

I think people here are confusing evolution with intelligent design.
Evolution does not imply that one species is better than another and that more recent are somehow better than ones that evolved earlier. As evolution happens by a process of natural selection, people sometimes think that the "better" animals survive; this is a mistake. The traits that are selected for are those that benefit the species in their niche at a specific time and place.

A good example of this would be white coloured moths and dark coloured moths. Pre-industrial revolution white moths were the dominant phenotype; post-industrial revolution, in the sooty areas, black coloured moths became the dominant phenotype. As people stopped producing pollution that was high in soot and particulates, the white moth became selected for again. This does NOT imply that white moths or dark moths are somehow "better" than the other. Each one was simply better suited for specific conditions. Evolution as such can not make moral judgements about which traits are superior.

Furthermore, as a scientific discipline evolutionary biologists are always trying to dispel the idea that more recently evolved species or traits are somehow better. This is because it gets in the way of rigorous scientific thinking. Also if something hasn't evolved in a long long time, then it actually shows that the species is very well adapted and that despite massive shifts in ecology and climate the species has not needed to massively adapt.

Intelligent design(ID) is a moral and religious belief that assumes that evolution is guided in some way to produce "superior" species, such as humans. This belief set is much more inclined towards racism.

Evolution's take on racism would be similar to the mishna, that everyone is descended from Adam HaRishon, and therefore racism is ridiculous.

ID is more suited to the tanya's ideology, that although we are all human, some are more evolved and better than others.

Most people who feel threatened by evolution because of religion are viewing evolution from a vantage point that only allow them to misunderstand evolution as something that is similar to ID. I think that that is why they assume evolution lends itself to racism, when it is exactly the opposite.

[Adam Neira]

To Seraphya,

I read the Tanya in 2003 in depth. It has major flaws. Zalman of Liadi was not a patch on Moses, Joseph, Mar Samuel, the Vilna Gaon or Bertha Pappenheim.

G-d is an intelligent designer. He does intervene and is not aphasic. Time and space are subsets of the divine superset.

[ruthie]

ebech, I have seen too many a Yungerman pick up a science book for this or that, then he learns evolution instead of torah, and then he is dancing with a shiksa on a Yom Tov. It all begins with a science book so let the goyim have science, HaShem gave us Torah!

Posted by: Waiting4Moshiach | September 21, 2011 at 08:59 PM

if he's dancing with a non jewish woman on a yom tov...BELIEVE ME it's NOT because of a science book. many frum yidden are super educated and feel fine and whole with science books. so wake up! please wake up. that's all. and btw...g-d also gave us science books, dr.s, research scientists....believe what you want to believe....AGAIN YOU ARE NOT G-D....maybe the man dancing with that woman was selected by g-d to be some kind of messenger....YOU DON'T KNOW. and you blame it on science books. i blame it on the young man...not getting enough honest and loving support. he didn't have a strong enough foundation. it
could have been something a teacher said or did, something his community is doing, the way he is being forced away from computers, video games, tv. i'm not saying that's not all good and dandy...but ha! it will make him seek it out in private.
DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY YOUNG MEN IN MONSEY GO TO ISRAEL TO TRAVEL? do you know how many of them are gay and that's the only place they can escape too. yeah, i know a few from very good families in monsey. beautiful smart kind young men...whose families are lying to potential shidduchs...
i think i'm going to need shrimp tempura and a sake today.
live in maid....? i need a live in bartender after your stupid post.

[Jeff]

Posted by: RightJew | September 21, 2011 at 08:41 PM

I know this will fall on deaf ears, but you're a very sick man. Get help.

[Jeff]

Nebech, I have seen too many a Yungerman pick up a science book for this or that, then he learns evolution instead of torah, and then he is dancing with a shiksa on a Yom Tov. It all begins with a science book so let the goyim have science, HaShem gave us Torah!

Posted by: Waiting4Moshiach | September 21, 2011 at 08:59 PM

Yes, let's leave science to the goyim. I assume we won't be hearing from you any more, as you'll surely be giving up your computer? Not to mention your car and your cell phone. Oh, and the next time you or one of your kids becomes ill, I assume you won't be going to the doctor or purchasing any medications.

When will you be selling your home to a gentile, moving to a cave and rubbing two sticks together? I know you can't do everything at once, but shall we say, within the next six months?

[Barry]

You do rarely find gay animals, as was 'prooved' by the two gay unicorns Noah took on to his Ark

[ah-pee-chorus]

barry-
its a shame the fire-breathing dragons of the torah were also gay, hence their absence today.
lol

[A. Nuran]

RightJew, typical god-botherer. You can't answer the substantive points. Hell, you can't even understand them. So you immediately start using "goy" as an insult and call people morons.

[rebbeca]

Sometimes I wonder if animals evolved from people,especialy their behavior. Its intresting that chareidi and yeshivash people all oppose evolution and yet you find some modern orthodox or open orthodox like they are known in Riverdale, support evolution. Yet you dont find a single gadol be it chassidic or yeshivash supporting the idea of evolution. Using that as a yardstick makes evolution anti Torah. I dont know what Avi Weiss,Saul Berman or the rest of the modern orthodox leadership views are but maybe someone who knows them can ask them. Just curious.

[Jeff]

then he learns evolution instead of torah, and then he is dancing with a shiksa on a Yom Tov

Since the Christian Right began taking over about thirty years ago, I've heard many fanatics argue against evolution - but this is the first time I've heard someone argue that it leads to mixed dancing.

[flat earth]

Nice new Honda Cross Tour. Who paid for that?

[Barry]

According to Honda, the Cross Tour is an 'evolved crossover'. Apparently it evolved from the Accord Sedan.

Apparently European drivers have evolved to an extent which American drivers have not. Honda would not dare to release such junk in Europe.

You just can't avoid evolution.

[ah-pee-chorus]

Yet you dont find a single gadol be it chassidic or yeshivash supporting the idea of evolution. Using that as a yardstick makes evolution anti Torah.Posted by: rebbeca

thats because theyre right. they know theres no way to reconcile evol. with the words of the torah story, and the mesorah explicitly precludes it. so they prefer to bury their heads deep in the sand and demand that others do the same. as long as you dont care about truth its a fine tactic.

[NeverFrum]

"Since the Christian Right began taking over about thirty years ago, I've heard many fanatics argue against evolution - but this is the first time I've heard someone argue that it leads to mixed dancing."

No, its true. I studied science throughout my school career and I did dance with non-jewish girls here and there. It was only today however that I realized what the root cause was. Wow, who would have thought. I don't recall it being on Yom Tov though.

[rebbeca]

To ah-pee-chorus if the Torah is wrong and not Divine according to you,why do you bother to identify as a Jew. Why not just assimilate into American culture and forget going to once a year Yom kippur Temple and save your money. Eat bread Passover and forget about any identity of Judaism. And forget about defending Israel and who cares if Iran nukes them,after all if the Torah is man made then dont waste your energy and time around anything Jewish.

[ah-pee-chorus]

rebbeca -

read the comments section from this earlier post. if its still unclear LMK .

http://failedmessiah.typepad.com/failed_messiahcom/2011/03/calling-a-spade-a-spade-why-orthodoxy-is-wrong-234.html

[mimi]

Maybe he was angry that scientists have discovered that all people of European, Asian, and Amerindian descent are part Neandertal!

[anuran]

Rebecca, the problem with Science is that it has the same relation to superstition as sunlight has to vampires. If it's allowed to penetrate it destroys them on contact leaving nothing but old sterile dust.

Science changes its conclusions to account for new evidence. Revealed religion must deny all evidence at any cost so belief can be preserved. The Talmud is wrong when it comes to physical reality. The Torah is worse. Their fables cannot be taken seriously on matters of Science or Natural History.

It really is that simple.

And all you can do is ram your fingers into your ears to the fourth joint and screech about how we should all be put in cherem for acknowledging these facts. It shows the utter intellectual bankruptcy and dishonesty of your Great Old Ones.

[Ronaldo]

Two questions:

A) How come there are no pictures of people at the scene?

B) Why is the date for Rosh Hashanah listed in the poster for only one day?

[Shmarya]

Two questions:

A) How come there are no pictures of people at the scene?

B) Why is the date for Rosh Hashanah listed in the poster for only one day?

Posted by: Ronaldo | September 25, 2011 at 05:37 AM

I don't see how "A" is a valid question. I have, somewhere, pics of people there, but they blocked part of the sign. Do you think I lied? Do you think the eyewitness is lying? Do you think the guy who sent out the JPAC press release is lying?

Or do you simply mean that you just don't know what you're talking about?

As for "B", you'll have to ask the person who made it.

I would assume the point was to note its starting date.

In halakha, it's all one long day, which may be what this person meant to convey.

[Ronaldo]

When JPACNY has any internet presence besides this one story, you'll be sure to let us know.