Skvere Of Borough Park Declares Bankruptcy
This is not connected to the Skvere institutions of New Square. Note the list of secured creditors and then the list of unsecured creditors:
Download Skvere Borough Park Bankruptcy 8-2011
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This is not connected to the Skvere institutions of New Square. Note the list of secured creditors and then the list of unsecured creditors:
Download Skvere Borough Park Bankruptcy 8-2011
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If they are bankrupt, the only question to ask is: Where have they hidden the money?
Posted by: David | August 10, 2011 at 05:29 AM
Hasidic yeshivas charge low tuition. There is not much money, and possibly no money, to be earned from it.... Mostly,they have the yeshivas for status.
Posted by: JL | August 10, 2011 at 05:33 AM
Chapter 11 of which sefer?
Posted by: Yochanan Lavie | August 10, 2011 at 05:42 AM
Who is Wexal investors that they owe over three million to?
Posted by: nursing home watch | August 10, 2011 at 05:58 AM
it makes sense they steal the money for themselfs and declare banrupcy how convinient.
Posted by: jancsipista | August 10, 2011 at 06:02 AM
This is such a hillul HaShem and Yeridat HaDorot. Don't these guys know about laundering money? I am so ashamed.
Posted by: New Skvere for Old Rectangles | August 10, 2011 at 06:17 AM
Mostly food...
Posted by: Sammy Davis Jr Jr | August 10, 2011 at 07:09 AM
Bankrupcy does not absolve you from your debt according to the halacha. Frum jews who use this to get out of paying what they owe others should be ashamed of themselves
Posted by: michael | August 10, 2011 at 07:23 AM
michael- shame is the last thing they care about are you for real, there is no more shame left in our religion just like with catholics and others money uber alas is the motto, in money we trust.
Posted by: jancsipista | August 10, 2011 at 07:39 AM
This may be related:
http://www.courts.state.ny.us/courts/2jd/kings/civil/foreclosures/week3/1411-1415-45th-Street-4500-9th-Avenue-1420-1422-45th-Street.pdf
Posted by: george | August 10, 2011 at 07:57 AM
Scanning the list, it appears they owe money to their own people (food and teachers). Only the IRS appears to be non-haredi.
Posted by: Oy_Vegas | August 10, 2011 at 08:36 AM
Bankrupcy does not absolve you from your debt according to the halacha. Frum jews who use this to get out of paying what they owe others should be ashamed of themselves
Posted by: michael | August 10, 2011 at 07:23 AM
What???? Since when did you think the frumma followed authentic Halacha? To them, Halacha is the loophole, not the law.
I am involved in a frumma organization. Not A DAY goes by when they are not exploring or engaging in some angle of how to find or exploit a loophole in Halacha or defying secular law. E.g. employment policy, compliance with safety laws, contractual obligations, basic civil decency, compliance with parking laws, you name it.
To me, the "frumma" are not holy people, they are agents of Satan! With a VERY FEW exceptions, I would not trust a single one of them!
Posted by: David | August 10, 2011 at 08:45 AM
I do not see a list of secured debtors does anybody
Posted by: seymour | August 10, 2011 at 10:25 AM
Posted by: michael | August 10, 2011 at 07:23 AM
when it suites them they believe and follow secular law..
have you been in outer space and do not know that simple fact
Posted by: seymour | August 10, 2011 at 10:29 AM
DAVID ,YOU SAY'I AM INVOLVED IN A FRUMMA ORGANIZATION' AND THEN YOU SAY'I WOULD NOT TRUST A SINGLE ONE OF THEM' WHICH MEANES WE CAN NOT TRUST YOU!
Posted by: ISSEY | August 10, 2011 at 10:40 AM
Some of the parents are at fault, too.
Last year, the Tomer Devorah’s administration found out that many parents, who were not paying tuition, have nonetheless paid for their bungalow colonies. They did not allow the daughters of these families to enter class until their parents settled the tuition arrears.
When parents’ priorities put hedonistic activities like bungalow vacations over paying for their daughters' tuition then no wonder the school goes bankrupt. This is part of the encroaching moral bankruptcy prevalent throughout our community.
Posted by: Joel Stern | August 10, 2011 at 10:41 AM
Posted by: Joel Stern | August 10, 2011 at 10:41 AM
yep
they say they need to scam and get section 8 and food stamps to survive
but they somehow have income for fancy cars cloths expensive wigs and so on
they are corrupt to the core the ones who do that. yet everybody even their neighbors who would not do that consider them better frum jews than a modern orthodox jew.
Sick and it seems incurable
Posted by: seymour | August 10, 2011 at 10:53 AM
why in the world would the parents of tomer devora want to pay tuition if the head or the principals and the whole twertzky family steals the tuition for themselfs everyone steals from everyone else jew from jew jew from goy and so on and on and on.
Posted by: jancsipista | August 10, 2011 at 11:07 AM
One thig for sure, Abe Roth will figure out a way to get his $$$
Posted by: No Nebach | August 10, 2011 at 11:16 AM
Skver in BP is not a real Chassidic grouping. They have few (very few)followers. The real founder of this group was rabbi David Twersky a righteous eccentric who assisted many in getting in touch with the appropriate medical care. He actually cared about people. Mnay sought his assistance daily.
Ina addition he ran a yeshiva system which catered to kids from large Chassidic groups who could not get into their own yeshivas. Many of these students were from Bobov.The overflow kept his schools going.
The Rebbe was assited in hiw work by his wife ebbetzin Twersky , a very able person bothw ere American born.
Rabbi Twersky hated PR and until his final illness hated pictures of himself. He lived very poorly and certainly did not hide money.His trips to the Upper west Side and Chicago were not heavily publicized thus thwarting their fund raising appeal. I can attest to that. His schools were always in trouble but a few rich men helped him. His major problem was his epersonality. he liked going his own way, davening at 11:30 AM Shabbes. tishen at 1AM Friday night and telling everyone off if he felt they did the wrong thing. that includes myself and his oldest son.. So you can see he did not have many financial backers although many loved him and respected him. Rav Dovidl'l was a unique person , His rabbistve was to kep the family tradition going. In private he spoke the whole truth and nothing but the truth.
But he never made it in BP. e was American not Hungarian and could not play the Hungarian games. He was never able to glad hand people , to smile as a fake or work the PR amchine.
After he died his successor son (not the one the Rebbe REALLY wanted to take over in earlier years) changed the game. he started massive PR campaigns, his picture was featured in all FRUM newspapers. He postured as if he were on par with the Skverer rebbe of New Skver who ahs about 10,000 followers worldwide , comapred to 100 for the BP rebbe.All of this cost a fortune.
I have no real data on whats been going on in BP Skver , but Chassidim also are part oft he market economy and its just possibile this school system had lost its appeal and source of revenue. Its a shame that the legacy of reb Dovid'l is thus..
Posted by: Mike Powers | August 10, 2011 at 11:42 AM
why in the world would the parents of tomer devora want to pay tuition if the head or the principals and the whole twertzky family steals the tuition for themselfs everyone steals from everyone else jew from jew jew from goy and so on and on and on.
Posted by: jancsipista | August 10, 2011 at 11:07 AM
You are so right. But jew from goy never. NEVER. Goys don't steal. Only Jews steal. (Even the secular. Check out Goldman)
Hitler would be proud of you.
Posted by: Guest | August 10, 2011 at 11:45 AM
guest- you reatrd youre one farrikter mf
Posted by: jancsipista | August 10, 2011 at 12:15 PM
The current BP Skver Rebbe is basically a nice guy (vs the "firebrand" in New Square), not violent or inciting to, but the man is very unrealisitc. Mike Powers really hit the nail on the head, with his father, an 'eccentric' but very frum and never stole or bankrupted himself or anyone else. The new one, is infected by the 'centerfold' pornographic pictures in the Hamodia/Yated/ Yiddish papers etc. which is part of the landscape
Reading the 'list' (of people getting screwed by this bankruptcy) we see so many small Chasidishe busineses, who can't afford this. The icing on the short-cake: The teachers....
Shame
Posted by: Flatbusher | August 10, 2011 at 01:23 PM
In all fairness to him, his father left with the place bankrupt, I don't think it is any worse than the way he got it, if you take into consideration Cost of Living and interest
Posted by: To Shame and all others | August 10, 2011 at 01:35 PM
skver boro park maybe has 10 people followers, most of the week he spends standing outside looking for minyen! what a rachmunes, how can someone even dream he has 100 ppl? he aded a extra 0.... its 10 ppl not 100 go in and check it out
here is a very very funny video of the skver boro park rebbe
Baby finds Skver Rabbi funny
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABxf-SdVbNE
Posted by: Skver Boro Park hassid | August 16, 2011 at 03:17 AM
he whole twertzky family steals the tuition for themselves...a major hole in the ship..the W-2 form the teachers got at the end of 2010, included funds the teachers never actually got, but is due to them...what a scam..
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