Haredim, Orthodox Zionists Riot
Violent confrontations erupted Monday afternoon between hundreds of parents of students at a religious school for girls in Beit Shemesh and a group of ultra-Orthodox protesters, who arrived at the school on Sunday night and who have refused to move. The protesters object to the presence of the girls in the area, although they themselves live in a different part of the city.
Parents clash with ultra-Orthodox who shut down Beit Shemesh girls' school
Haredi residents of city determined to prevent girls' school opening; parents: our mayor is scared to stand up for us.
By Oz Rosenberg • Ha’aretz
Violent confrontations erupted Monday afternoon between hundreds of parents of students at a religious school for girls in Beit Shemesh and a group of ultra-Orthodox protesters, who arrived at the school on Sunday night and who have refused to move. The protesters object to the presence of the girls in the area, although they themselves live in a different part of the city.
The girls at the national religious “Orot” school had been due to start the new school year at the site, but were relocated due to the protest. Last week, Beit Shemesh Mayor Moshe Abutbul sent a letter to the parents’ association, warning that he had received serious threats from ultra-Orthodox residents of the city, who vowed to cause physical harm to both to the mayor and the students should the school open as planned.
Abutbul told the parents that in light of the threats, he could not guarantee the safety of the girls, and had decided not to open the school for the start of the academic year.
“Do you know what this means?” Ze’ev Moskowitz, a member of the parents’ association asked angrily. “A mayor of an Israeli city says ‘I have no control over what is happening here.’ A couple of days ago, the ultra-Orthodox smashed several windows in the school, which led the parents to start a night watch there. Last night, at around 2:30 A.M., 15 ultra-Orthodox broke into the building; the parents at the site called the police, who, according to the parents, said that they could not stop them entering the building. This morning, hundreds of parents arrived to confront the intruders, and they are there right now.”
A police unit turned up at the school Monday to separate the two groups. “Right now there is anarchy,” Esti Moskowitz, the head of the parents’ association, said Monday. “What the mayor is actually saying is ‘the strong are in charge, I am not ready to take the decision, even though the legal decision is to say that the building is yours.’ This building was constructed with the symbol of the ‘Orot’ organization displayed at its pinnacle. The threats that the mayor has received come from a small group inside Beit Shemesh and all the [municipal] agencies are afraid of them – a group of fanatics which is at the moment running this city. They want everyone in the city to be ultra-Orthodox. Great. Tomorrow they will say I need to wear a wig and my son has to wear long trousers. Who will stop them then?”
The parents say that they have the full backing of the Education Ministry. The police said Monday that they have separated the two scuffling groups, and are now waiting before taking further action, in accordance with a decision by the municipality and Education Ministry.
the only solutions is to get more secular and just break heads if the police will not what is right.
who are these people to say where a school can locate. It is their building
why do not the police arrest these idiots and give them long prison terns
these frummas do it knowing they will be coddled by the authorities
Posted by: seymour | August 29, 2011 at 12:09 PM
Animals. They should use tear gas on them.
Posted by: simcha | August 29, 2011 at 12:12 PM
oh the mindless ones are at it again theese anthropod ultras are becoming a danger to civilized society.
Posted by: jancsipista | August 29, 2011 at 12:15 PM
Sounds like the city needs a new mayor asap. As soon as the thugs entered the building they should have been arrested case closed. If the mayor can't control the situation then let him resign.
Posted by: MICHAEL | August 29, 2011 at 12:15 PM
simcha,
I agree. They should also use tear gas on the blacks flash-rioting all over America. But political correctness will stop the Israeli and American authorities from doing what is right.
Posted by: Guest | August 29, 2011 at 12:16 PM
seymour- you took the wrods out of my mouth , the only way to make them behave civilized is too break every bone in their body to teach them a lesson who is in charge if they let this mindless behaviour go on a fester then all is lost.
Posted by: jancsipista | August 29, 2011 at 12:42 PM
Break their fuckin heads and cut there welfare checks. These "charadim" are a chilel hashem. Because of them the 2nd temple was destroid.
Posted by: andre | August 29, 2011 at 12:42 PM
Those that threaten violence and break into schools must be found and prosecuted. It is time to enforce the laws on the book.
Posted by: David | August 29, 2011 at 01:20 PM
Rubber bullets to the crotches of these mindless freaks-solves two problems
1-Makes them turn tail and run
2-May prevent them from multiplying.
Posted by: Alter Kocker | August 29, 2011 at 01:41 PM
Animals. They should use tear gas on them.
Posted by: simcha
No. Shoot them. They'll just come back when the tear gas wears off.
Posted by: HadEnuff | August 29, 2011 at 01:42 PM
HOW CAN THE POLICE PROTECT ISRAELIS FROM ARABS WHEN THEY CAN NOT PROTECT WITHIN ?
Posted by: ISSEY | August 29, 2011 at 01:43 PM
fucking cut their heads off. shit haredim bastards.
Posted by: shia moskowitz | August 29, 2011 at 01:49 PM
> Abutbul told the parents that in light of the threats, he could not guarantee the safety of the girls
He can't? He doesn't have a police force? He doesn't have the edge in non-lethal weapons? What kind of mayor is he?
Posted by: Garnel Ironheart | August 29, 2011 at 01:49 PM
> Abutbul told the parents that in light of the threats, he could not guarantee the safety of the girls
He can't? He doesn't have a police force? He doesn't have the edge in non-lethal weapons? What kind of mayor is he?
Posted by: Garnel Ironheart | August 29, 2011 at 01:49 PM
He sold out to the haredim years ago.
Past that, the haredim physically attack opponents, beat bat mitzvah age girls, and do other truly frightening things.
And like with Mea Shearim/Geulah, the haredi part of Beit Shemesh where the Sicariim live is off limits for the most part to cops.
Posted by: Shmarya | August 29, 2011 at 02:20 PM
The national religious have been kissing the behinds of the chardeim and their leaders for years.
This is their "reward".
Posted by: MalachHamovies | August 29, 2011 at 02:36 PM
shmarya- now i understand the hareidi part of beit shemesh is an outlaw section describing it in brief, and the outlaws are terrorizing the law abiding citizens now where are the authorities the mayer should be thrown out and get someone who can make order there before its too late.
Posted by: jancsipista | August 29, 2011 at 02:38 PM
The dati leumi need to think about what happens when they value orthodox solidarity over keeping Israel a modern, democratic state.
Posted by: masortiman | August 29, 2011 at 03:02 PM
Actually, the mayor doesn't have a police force - the police in Israel is subject to the national government. The mayors have no authority over the police.
Posted by: dlz | August 29, 2011 at 03:11 PM
Where in bet Shemesh is this? My knowledge of Bet Shemesh is the regular bet shemesh is mostly secular, some religious israelis and small orthodox american ex-pat community tied to Yeshivat Reishit. Then there is Ramat Bet shemesh Aleph that is all yeshivish orthodox with a very large, yeshivish American expat community and then Ramat Bet Shemesh Bet with Charedim.
Posted by: si | August 29, 2011 at 03:33 PM
Um, that's a misleading headline. Simply inaccurate. The "orthodox zionists" are not "rioting!" They are there to try to remove the haredim who have squatted and destroyed some school property. With your headline you make it sound like people are gathering together (haredim with "orthodox zionists") to thrash property burn garbage cans and march in the street. That's not even close to what's happening.
Posted by: nobody | August 29, 2011 at 03:40 PM
Orot Parents: Mayor Turned Off Electricity to School
Parents of students at the Orot school in Beit Shemesh, the center of controversy between Hareidi and national-religious parents who both claim that the city promised their institutions use of the building, said Monday evening that Mayor Moshe Aboutbul ordered that electricity be turned off in the building for 24 hours. Police are stationed outside the building to keep everyone out, and a large rally is being held by the national-religious community at the site.
A spokesperson for the mayor said that the claims by Orot parents that they had been promised the building for use of the Orot girls' school were incorrect, and that the building was authorized for use by the boys' school only.
Posted by: seymour | August 29, 2011 at 05:05 PM
The solution is very simple.
Get rid of the mayor.
Get a new one.
Throw the Tallitban terrorists in jail.
Bulldoze their homes.
Every time they pull shit like this throw more of them in jail and bulldoze their homes.
Posted by: A. Nuran | August 29, 2011 at 05:17 PM
A spokesperson for the mayor said that the claims by Orot parents that they had been promised the building for use of the Orot girls' school were incorrect, and that the building was authorized for use by the boys' school only.
Posted by: seymour | August 29, 2011 at 05:05 PM
and so what is the problem for the frum fools
they do not even live in the area
Posted by: seymour | August 29, 2011 at 05:17 PM
Jackbooted thugs.
Who is happier when Jews are terrorized, Hashem or the enemy?
Posted by: Korbendallas72 | August 29, 2011 at 05:19 PM
When "Jews" act like Nazis, they should be treated exactly the same way the Nazis treated Jews.
Posted by: Uzi Ben Asher | August 29, 2011 at 05:59 PM
where do these so called charameisim get their funding from?
Posted by: Adams | August 29, 2011 at 09:27 PM
adams- they get it from the hopeless dupes in the government as the saying goes i have met the enemy and the enemy is us.
Posted by: jancsipista | August 29, 2011 at 09:33 PM
By reading the article I am not sure why Shmarya out the heading that the Orthodox Zionists are rioting, it is the Ultra Orthodox who are rioting and preventing the Orthodox Zionists from opening their school
Posted by: Bassy the Haredi Slayer | August 29, 2011 at 10:00 PM
It is time to unleash dahan and aron on these animals. Why don't the f*(*) 'rabbis' admit that this is the real reason there are Hurricanes and catastrophes. Where are the loud mouthed 33 concert ban rabbis on this issue? Are these the outside forces zwiebel talks of?
Posted by: Kol Tzfardayah | August 29, 2011 at 10:21 PM
Rosh chodesh ELUL. Time for ALL Jews to begin the process. Let's first try to do right by one another and stop hating each other. Find the oneness we have in our hearts. Shana tova to ALL.
Posted by: Mike | August 30, 2011 at 07:46 AM
When "Jews" act like Nazis, they should be treated exactly the same way the Nazis treated Jews.
Posted by: Uzi Ben Asher | August 29, 2011 at 05:59 PM
Again your spewing your Nazi views on this site. Why are you here if you aren't even Jewish?!! Go to your Aryan websites and spew your anti-semitism there.
Skinheads like you are ruining the world.
Posted by: nazi hater | August 30, 2011 at 12:30 PM