Haredi Yeshiva Student Busted For Possession Of Looted Goods

A married haredi yeshiva student was arrested for possession of property looted during the London riots.

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Behadrei Haredim is reporting that a haredi yeshiva student was arrested for possession of property looted during the London riots.

It says the arrest sent shock waves through the haredi community in London, and people are getting rid of looted items as fast as they can.

Police say that more arrests are forthcoming.

[Hat Tip: Burich.]

 

Comments

[seymour]

NOW HERE IS A CASE FOR PIDYAM SHVUM

[Bob]

It doesn't say 'yeshiva student', it says 'avrech' which in this context simply means youngish married man (in yeshivish English it denotes a kollel student, but in charedi Hebrew it simply means someon who is married)

[moshe]

The true result of a yeshiva education

[seymour]

how could he have looted did he go when looting was for men only?

[1800 =GOD]

Just in from god himself. The upcoming huricane irene is scheduled to arrive Sunday late morning to the east coast because the roshey yeshiva who teach my torah are telling the boysto never go to work and stay in kollel and mooch off the tax payers. Also to blame are the seminaries who are brain washing the girls to only date a boy who is learning. Dating a working boy is a teriible aveira.

[Kol Tzfardayah]

Is levin going to make a you tube video explaining this? Is this the 'outside forces'? What do the concert ban rabbis say about this? Is this the new norm for haredim and yeshivah booogers?

[David]

What's he going to tell the judge? That he thought it was OK to steal from non-Jews?

[Barry]

Deremes; if you are tempted to help your British buddies by letting them off load on to you any electrical items they may have obtained, please remember that the power supply in the UK is 240v @ 50hz while the power supply in the US is 110-120v @ 60hz and that the TV standard in the UK is PAL while the TV standard in the US is NTSC. In addition, the antenna input (different frequency, plug, impedance and tuner standard!) will be incompatible with US equipment.

[Dovit]

Those anti-semites, denying a poor Yeshiva student of his right to loot and steal from the goyim!

[ah-pee-chorus]

its the gays fault. if he had been out protesting against gay rights in the UK hashem would never have caused him to steal.

[Isa]

The Brits have these security cameras all over and they are methodically matching up the looters faces with real people. It really doesn't matter if the looters still have the goods or not-- they were still part of the mayhem

[Guest]

To be more exact:

Behadrei Hareidim is reporting:

Police have arrested a Hasidic married man for possesion of looted items which he bought off the black looters.

Other arrests are imminent of others in the Hassidic community for buying looted goods from the black looters.

The article is very clear that he was Hassidic.

The article is also very clear that the looters were of the black race. The black looters then went and sold their looted goods to Hasidics, and now the Hasidics are being arrested for possession of looted goods.

I don't think these very important details very clear in Shmarya's post.

So much for journalistic integrity.

[uk resident]

Everyone knows who these chasidim are. Their photos were displayed in all the papers. Let me say they are rich having gone to holiday in Spain, and bought off the looters, mainly electronic goods. Although in London everyone wears the 'dress' however far he is from orthodoxy, to call them chasidim is a misnomer. The going rate at the moment is 5 months prison for this minimum and everyone who is orthodox will be quite happy to see these 'offenders' inside a bit.

[Office of the Chief Rabbi]

Shee-yit, folks. Everybody knows God created goyim because somebody had to pay retail.

[HadEnuff]

No "Guest" all that means is that a racist writer is writing in a racist paper for a racist audience.

"Guest" on August 25, 2011 at 11:48 AM Posted:

"Behadrei Hareidim is reporting:

Police have arrested a Hasidic married man for possesion of looted items which he bought off the black looters.

Other arrests are imminent of others in the Hassidic community for buying looted goods from the black looters.

The article is very clear that he was Hassidic.

The article is also very clear that the looters were of the black race. The black looters then went and sold their looted goods to Hasidics, and now the Hasidics are being arrested for possession of looted goods.

I don't think these very important details very clear in Shmarya's post.

So much for journalistic integrity."

[Dovit]

Oh, please. Hasidics were seen rioting; no getting around that. Plus, there is no excuse to say "hey, those black guys looted - all I did was buy the stuff later". Sickening and just as guilty.

[Guest]

When the Hareidis buy the loot off the blacks who looted, it's sickening and just as guilty.

When the black guys loot, it's the fault of the greedy banksters (ie the Jews)

Jews are so terrible. :(

[Isa]

""""The article is also very clear that the looters were of the black race. The black looters then went and sold their looted goods to Hasidics, and now the Hasidics are being arrested for possession of looted goods.""""

BULL xxxx! EXCUSES!

Video cameras are everywhere in England and if you face appears in a mob looting a store, you are dead meat. How can the blacks say whether this or that Hasidim bought their stuff.[(sarcastically)The Hasidim all look alike anyway] Business like this is done in dark alleys and the like away from the cameras.

[Guest]

I'm just reporting to you what the article actually says. I have no idea what actually went on at the riots, nor do you, nor does Shmarya.

Shmarya quoted an article from Behadrei Hareidim, and I added some quotes from the article to ensure that the article was accurately quoted with all its gory details.

See, from Shmarya's headlines, I got the impression that the Hareidim were the ones that actually looted. Yet the article that Shmarya quoted clearly states that blacks looted, and then sold the looted stuff to Hasidics.

Again, what REALLY happened there, we'll find out in due course.

[william e emba]

Actually, the security cameras have been almost completely useless in regards to the looters, as reported in the NYT earlier this week. Private pictures by spectators, on the other hand, have been quite helpful.

[Dovit]

When the Hareidis buy the loot off the blacks who looted, it's sickening and just as guilty.

When the black guys loot, it's the fault of the greedy banksters (ie the Jews)

Jews are so terrible. :(

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Stop the excuses. They broke the law. They knew they were buying looted stuff; you buy something form some shady black guy (or any guy) off the street right after a riot and you are going to pretend you are better than they are? No, you aren't.

[Jew Boy]

Obvioiusly these were facts that were salient enough for Shmarya to feel the need to omit them.
Although Im not sure why this is news. We all know already, all chareidim are bad, all are guilty until proven innocent, and even then theyre still guilty, if found innocent it only means they manipulated the system. After all, as many posters here have indicated, they are taught to do this from an early age.

[seymour]

stories like this and teh arrest of the Torah guy do not make the frum web sites.

this is great for them since they can say see by us these type of things do not happen

[Baloinsen]

"Getting rid of looted items?" How about they just return them.

[Guest]

stories like this and teh arrest of the Torah guy do not make the frum web sites.

this is great for them since they can say see by us these type of things do not happen

Posted by: seymour | August 25, 2011 at 06:16 PM

Seymour,

This was reported on a haredi website. Shmarya's only source for this story is a hareidi website.

(If I was "shish", I'd end off my comment with "ignorant moron" or something like that. But I don't feel the need to call people names, just to state the facts)

[mordecai]

To possess stolen property does not mean that you actually did the stealing. While it is a crime, it is a legal fiction in that it makes it a crime to merely possess. One may possess stolen property for any number of innocent reasons. These innocent reasons will constitute defenses. For example your brother may have stolen a computer and given it to you as a gift. Theoretically you ave committed te crime of being in possession of stolen property however the State would have to prove you ad knowledge it was stolen.

So let's not jump to conclusions as to guilt.

[Jew Boy]

Mordechai, no one is jumping to conclusions. Haridim are guilty. Its a fact. We all know it. Jumping to conclusion implies there is some kind of premature judgement being made. However, lets look at the facts: Hareidim are being accused, and were arrested. And they are hariedim. What other proof of guilt would you need?

[Waiting4Moshiach]

Nebech, the Yungerman needed to provide for his family and it is not cheap to be a Jew. When Moshiach comes everyone will be in yeshiva and will study Torah all day long and the goyim will be happy to provide for us, no looting nececcery.

[seymour]

But I don't feel the need to call people names, just to state the facts)

Posted by: Guest | August 25, 2011 at 07:01 PM

did vin
yeshiva world
mazov

[Adam]

Avreich is someone 'learning' in Kollel.
There are low level elements in every Charedi community anywhere in the world. I didn't quite realize this.

It stems from a deep poverty, which they bring on themselves do to expecting the world to fill their hands with Euros.

We can only hope that they will make severe modifications in their entire school system but breath I am not holding.

[Adam]

@Mordechai - check this site, there was a kol Koeir issued by Rabbi Padwa, Shlita, against looting and helping the looters.

[Jew Boy]

Adam, that makes no sense. Looting and helping the looters should be under the general rule of rabbincly sanctioned theft from non jews.

[HadEnuff]

"Looting and helping the looters should be under the general rule of rabbincly sanctioned theft from non jews."

Jew Boy:

My rabbi said it's ok... and he'd like a 52 inch Hi-Def.

[Ld]

There were clear pictures of Hassidic running away from the riots in Tottehham so they were on the streets and adding to the mayhem. Again they need to stand up and take the blame for what they do wrong and stop hiding behind their Rabbi, their buggys and their Kippas. Also what do they need hight tech goods for they are not supposed to use them... more crap.

[george]

Some blogger on a news site about the riots in general posted the following links:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-13333763

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liverpool-news/local-news/2011/03/30/merseyside-police-officers-suspended-over-claims-missing-items-from-raids-were-sold-on-ebay-100252-28426867/

[george]

The way the following is written, it makes it sound like "James Haung" (near the end of the first link) was not caught actually stealing nor in possession of stolen property, nor was he caught committing violence, nor was he caught inciting, and it mentions nothing about being caught while on private property. He was arrested for what he was wearing, and he could easily be sentenced to jail (as implied when reading the tone of the whole article) for nothing more than what will be assumed to be his intentions based on nothing more than what he was wearing.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/mobile/uk-14495104

which seems to be the same as the following ("donning a balaclava and gardening gloves"):

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/8719526/London-riots-15-year-old-sweet-looter-left-Hansel-and-Gretel-trail-of-goodies-for-police-to-follow.html