Racist Rabbi "Explains" Racist Book

The rabbi addressed the killing of children, which was one of the reasons he was suspected of incitement, as were Rabbis Dov Lior and Yaakov Yosef who endorsed the book. According to the book, "Hurting small children makes sense if it's clear that they'll grow up to harm us, and in such a situation – the injury will be directed at them of all people."

 

King's Torah' writer has no regrets
Rabbi Yitzhak Shapira explains that 'killing of enemy's children is permissible in order to defeat an evil king or tyrant', but says changes may be made in new edition of controversial book
Kobi Nahshoni • Ynet

Rabbi Yitzhak Shapira of Yitzhar, who wrote in 2009 that it is permissible for Jews to kill non-Jews (including children) who threaten Israel, says that changes may be made "in popular sections" in the next edition of his controversial book, "King's Torah."

According to the rabbi, the book should be written in a clearer way, which would make it easier for the public to understand the author's intentions.

"I have no regrets, not about the book and not about what God Almighty creates with its publication," Rabbi Shapira said in an interview to Kol Hai Radio, which will be broadcast soon.

"I do believe that had it occurred to me that the book would be distributed to such a wide and distant audience, I would have added in several sections a slightly bigger clarification."

The rabbi addressed the killing of children, which was one of the reasons he was suspected of incitement, as were Rabbis Dov Lior and Yaakov Yosef who endorsed the book.

According to the book, "Hurting small children makes sense if it's clear that they'll grow up to harm us, and in such a situation – the injury will be directed at them of all people."

Shapira explained in the interview, "Assuming that at a time of war I must kill children in order to win – otherwise my soldiers will die, then killing the enemy's children is the right thing to do rather than have my soldiers killed…

"If I believe there is an evil king, a tyrant, who is involved in many unjustified wars, and I want to win the war, and my way is for his children to be hurt in order to weaken his spirit and have him stop sending his soldiers to war – then it's permissible."
 
When can one kill a goy

The rabbi went on to slam Israel's combat ethics. He expressed his hope that a Torah-based practical combat plan would be distributed to the public in the future, "in order to let the public judge whether what the Torah says is more acceptable then what all kinds of legal advisors and people of ethics say…

"I think that people who read the plan will realize that what the Torah says is much more sincere than 'purity of arms' (IDF's official doctrine of ethics). I think that calling it 'purity of arms' is a disgrace – it's putting human life in risk.
 
"The Jews are wise people; they will come to their senses. The conscious and behavioral revolution will take place easily and pleasantly, and I hope we won't have to experience difficult things for it to happen. We can't go on acting like we're acting today, because then the situation of the Jews here will be worse."

The Yitzhar rabbi strongly criticized Israel's legal system and former Supreme Court President Aharon Barak. According to Shapira, Barak decided to confront the Torah with all his might, as did Deputy State Prosecutor Shai Nitzan.

Answering a question presented by interviewer Assaf Gavor, the rabbi clarified that his book includes a halachic innovation because it thoroughly examines when it is really permissible to kill a non-Jew and when he and when it's forbidden.

He said that there was an erroneous understanding that sometimes "when one reads the Halacha in different places, one might think that you can kill gentiles freely, without any problem whatsoever."

Comments

[seymour]

what he is saying is nothing new it is very old the way wars where fought thousands or years ago.

he wants to turn back the clock to go back to a barbaric time.

also he must understand if he wants to fight a war that way. the enemy has every right to fight the Jews that way and kill Jewish children

[Leah]

"Rabbi Yitzhak Shapira explains that 'killing of enemy's children is permissible in order to defeat an evil king or tyrant', but says changes may be made in new edition of controversial book"

Maybe he should get it published here in the US where they are more tolerant with regards to freedom of speech issues.

B”H we have no shortage of wacko items in print here thanks to freedom of speech.

[masortiman]

"Despite the explicit Torah commandment regarding battle, we are also commanded to have mercy upon our enemy, to refrain from killing even during times of war unless necessitated for reasons of self-defense in order to achieve the objective of conquest and victory, and not to harm a non-combatant population, and it is especially prohibited to harm women and children who are not taking part in the war..."

R' Shlomo Goren

[Friar Yid]

masortiman- Yes, R. Goren had the good fortune to be living in an age when Religious Zionism still operated as an independent ideological movement and not as an unhinged, armed, messianic subset of Haredi-ism. Goren and Elyashiv clashed all the time back in their day and while Elyashiv got pissy about it, no one dared challenged Goren's qualifications to either be a rabbi or a Jew.

Now imagine if Metzger or Amar spoke out against the the Torat Ha Melech crowd today. They'd be run out of town.

[DK]

"I have no regrets, not about the book and not about what God Almighty creates with its publication," Rabbi Shapira said"

Because he speaks for God!

[western jew]

What this guy does is lower our avodas. This guy has no sense about him. The book makes no Godly sense. And the Jewish people are not threatened by any one non jewish child at any length and never will have any time that our peopel are to be destroyed. This is just the most horrible abuse of the Power or Gods Torah that I have seen in my days pretty much. That said, this man needs to atone and destroy all of the copies of his book.

[masortiman]

friar Y

Thanks for the info, that makes sense

For me the Goren quote was a response to this:

"I think that people who read the plan will realize that what the Torah says is much more sincere than 'purity of arms' (IDF's official doctrine of ethics). I think that calling it 'purity of arms' is a disgrace – it's putting human life in risk."

which makes it sound as if purity of arms was something made up by chilonim, when it was actually rooted in Torah, if not in Torah as Shapira et al read it.

[Yoel Mechanic]

>Now imagine if Metzger or Amar spoke out against the the Torat Ha Melech crowd today. They'd be run out of town.

Posted by: Friar Yid | July 05, 2011 at 02:51 PM
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Look at all the hostility and name calling going around, even directed toward those who ask simple question and wish to start honest conversations. We live in a time where intellectual discussion is difficult, and there are many who try to squelch discussion, etc. You should see it staring right at you. So your observation fits right in. For some bizarre reason some think the bad behavior and bigotry is confined to religious Jews. That is just mistake number one. There are many more mistakes.

[Adam Neira]

His reasoning implies that some children are born with a superior Jewish soul whilst others are born with an inferior Goy soul. I have noticed over the last nine years that this sort of belief is insidious in some people. The great problem of human history has been an inability of adults to see the common humanity in each other. Once you start to elevate yourself higher than someone else purely because of some arbitrary ruling you create the conditions whereby enmity festers. According to the prophecies Jacob and Esau will not always be enemies. The conceptual blocks affecting people at the moment are quite astounding to see. The following saying is apt...

"It doesn't matter what you think we will all know the truth and what is correct in the end !"

[Friar Yid]

Yoel- I am a secular(ish) Jew. I am more than aware of the failings of secular-ish Jews. What concerns me is that on their worst day, secular Israelis are not chit-chatting about overthrowing the state, about how politicians have committed treason against halakha, or about the circumstances in which it's cool to kill Arab babies. The fact that seculars' ideologies, birthrates, and gun ownership are significantly below their Orthodox counterparts is also relevant here, too.

Are there wonderful religious Jews? Of course. In Israel as well as in the Diaspora. I know they exist. I'm happy they exist. I have plenty of personal disagreements with Orthodoxy, but I'm pretty solidly in the "live and let live" camp. It's no skin off my nose if someone wants to wear tzitzit or keep kosher. Where things start to get alarming is when you come to the political element of Orthodoxy, particularly these days with its rightward tilt, and especially in Israel.

As I read it, these rabbis do not think they answer to anyone short of God. And their ideas are built around the idea that they have the answers, they have a mission, and those who disagree with them will have to be dealt with, one way or another.

I have little doubt Lior or Melamed or Yosef are going to actually commit violence. But they are teachers; leaders, with significant amounts of followers. And I believe it is only a matter of time until some of those students do something really bad.

They are being irresponsible. To their country as well as to their students.

[OMG]

Posted by: Friar Yid | July 05, 2011 at 07:08 PM

Rabbis or any clergy who calls for violence to foist their views on people, who do not care to follow, need to be incarcerated until they change either their view, or die. There is no middle ground; not dealing with the problem in its infancy, will only exacerbate the problem in the future.

[lamdan]

Everyone knows it, we all learned it in school, God keeps all the commandments of the torah. now why wont he kill them himself?

[Russian PhD]

I do not see any reason why `targeted liquidations` should not be used against Shapiro, Lior, and their disciples like it used against Hamas. These and these are fundamentalist terrorists and these and these live in the territory under military control.