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July 19, 2011

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netflix

Beautiful, this is very nice.

ah-pee-chorus

he is a real mentsch.

moshe

this story is bs its not true

Tzvi

Totally not true. I was watching this break on Twitter. The first person to Tweet this was here http://twitter.com/#!/HersheyKJ/status/93332957212848129 and a few Retweets later the Israeli website mentioned here reported it. VIN said it is an outright lie right here. http://twitter.com/#!/VINNews/status/93384831383240705

Shame on you for reporting it without any further research! I expected better.

PrettyBoyFloyd

Bullshit

Shmarya

Shame on you for reporting it without any further research! I expected better.

Posted by: Tzvi | July 19, 2011 at 07:05 PM

Please.

Kikar Shabbat reported it and I linked to their report.

What did you want me to do? Call the White House after hours for confirmation? Bother the family?

If Kikar Shabbat is wrong that will become clear – and I'll report that, too.

Process that.

Also process that haredi "journalism" is full of errors and outright lies, and one of the real problems with covering the haredi world – and haredi journalism – is dealing with those exaggeration, misrepresentations, lies and errors.

When I fail to report a so-called good story about haredim from one of these sources, I get attacked.

When I do report them, very often they turn out to be false, and I'm attacked for that.

You can't have it both ways.

Direct your anger where it belongs – to haredi news sites that play fast and loose with the truth.

Jew

It's OK it's anyway lie even if he called he is full of BS

pepe

shmarya
You bash hardei journalism all day and night then you say this "Also process that haredi "journalism" is full of errors and outright lies" pretty pathtic you actually use them as a excuse

Evan

I just googled the story. It seems like a hoax. I mean, the Prez. phoning the victim of a horrendous murder and no one covering it?

tooclose2detroit

man o man-i cant stand shmarya's politics, etc, but give the frikkin dude a break-he made a mistake-he didnt kill anyone!

BacktoPharisism please

Shmarya is a class-act and if it wasn't for him the Frum World would be even WORSE than it is now...

I am waiting for CNN or FOX to offer him a job. He is a grew investigative reporter.

I threw in the towel with heredism when I saw it wasn't the Judaism remotely close to that of the ancient Pharisees and decided that I could make my own version closer to the real thing that insane, inept Rabbis leading the people off a cliff.

Hashem loves you Smarya whether you believe in him or not for the Mitzvah of honesty that you bring!

tooclose2detroit

Fox???-yeah, that would be a helluva shidduch.-More likely end up working for Al-Jazeera.

tooclose2detroit

anyhow, if obama called the family of every murdered child in America, he would be on the phone, unfortunately, much too often.

A nudnik

Whether one agrees with the policies of President Obama or not, it is pretty obvious that Mr. and Mrs. Obama care deeply about their children. Therefore, it is not a surprise that, as a parent, Mr. Obama reached out to the Kletzky family. I am also not surprised that they did not make a big public deal about the call.

People who do not interact with the world outside the frum community might be surprised at the depth of reaction from our non-Jewish neighbors. Several colleagues at work stopped by my desk to ask, assuming (correctly) that I had been following the story.

Tzvi

Doesn't it seem strange the only source for this story is a website in Israel? If he would have called every hareidi news site would have reported it. Not being selective or double checking sources puts the integrity of the rest of the articles on this site in doubt. How much fact checking did they grow through? You can't just see a story and automatically accept as fact on face value!

Shmarya

Doesn't it seem strange the only source for this story is a website in Israel? If he would have called every hareidi news site would have reported it. Not being selective or double checking sources puts the integrity of the rest of the articles on this site in doubt. How much fact checking did they grow through? You can't just see a story and automatically accept as fact on face value!

Posted by: Tzvi | July 20, 2011 at 12:08 AM

Again, try to process:

My post says that haredi news sites in Israel are reporting this.

That's all it says. No more, no less.

Is it true that haredi news sites in Israel reported this?

Of course it is.

Is it out of character for the president to have made such a call?

No it is not.

Past that, why you expect me to call the White House after hours to check this out or to call the family during shiva to check this out is beyond me.

The family isn't taking media calls and the White House press office is closed.

And people smarter than you understand that it is the responsibility of Kikar Shabbat and Behadrei Haredim to fact check what they write. It is not the responsibility of others to do that for them.

Process that.

unreal

very well said shmarya

WoolSilkCotton

++tooclose2detroit | July 19, 2011 at 10:44 PM++

He would have to have the Detroit area on speed-dial.

MeGe

He Still won't get my vote. But it was a nice gesture and probably heartfelt. Jews, Gentiles, Secular, Insular etc... We all have are differences. But this tragedy crossed all boundaries and I hope coalesced us all. At least for a short time....

tooclose2detroit

did he make the call, did he not make the call???-did he speak in yiddish?-

HeshMan

is the picture of Obama photo-shopped? his chin looks kinda strange

AlwaysActions

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