Tzniut Ruler

A "tzniut ruler" from Lakewood, New Jersey.

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[Q]

What a disgrace.

If I was a woman, I would probably be more anti semetic than Shmarya is :).

[C-G]

The grand culmination of two thousand years of Jewish intellectual pursuit. All I can say is- Wow.

[Disgusted]

Oh, but it has a rose, so it's sooooo feminine.

[seymour]

I think I will sell this on amazon

might outsell anything else i got for sale

[ruthie]

i think this is one of the funniest things i've seen....pardon

[seymour]

The grand culmination of two thousand years of Jewish intellectual pursuit. All I can say is- Wow.

Posted by: C-G | June 30, 2011 at 07:20 PM

they said Jews where smart

no quick

maybe they should have a kosher fact check machine

to see if they really are eligible for
food stamps
welfare
section 8
and all the other stuff.

the machine will be programed that after 20 No's
it will just say

go ahead cheat all you want they are just goyim
isn't that what you wanted to hear in the first place

[Bugsy]

Ruthie,

I know what you mean but this sick sexist misogynistic propoganda is hardly funny!

[deremes is sheker]

soon coming to a local store in your area. A SHEYTEL RULER. LOOKS LIKE A SHEYTEL HEAD EXCEPT THAT ITS GOT ALL SORTS OF MEASURMENTS AND GUIDES WRITTEN ALL OVER IT.

[seymour]

Posted by: deremes is sheker | June 30, 2011 at 07:57 PM

or mashgeiach of znuiz

A trained man will come to your house
and look you over check you wearing all type of cloth, stocking, wigs, underwear, nightgown, bathrobes etc. to make sure it meets all the requirements of your local rebbie.

Yes even in you own room and in the bathroom (there was a story on FM concerning that very issue) one must obey tnuiz rules ,

[Adam Neira]

Dressing modestly is a good idea in many settings but a woman can really wear what she wants within reason.

Does such a ruler exist for men ?

[Illana B.]

Shmarya, where is this from? Give us sources, man. You can't just stick a picture up and expect me to believe it's real (though I'd love to know it;s real - oh the jokes, the JOKES!)

So: SOURCES!! SOURCES !! SOURCES!!

[skepticalyid]

Adam, it does but not for quite the same purpose ;-)

[neighbor girl]

I'm having flashbacks to public high school in the 60's. The dress code said that when kneeling, a girl's skirt should be no more than 2 inches above the floor. We left home following this rule. Then we rolled our skirts up or down at the waistband depending on whether the principal was checking skirts that day. Looking back at my high school photos I must say my father was right. I didn't have the legs for short skirts!

[Office of the Chief Rabbi]

Four inches below the knee? That could leave 4, 6, even 8 (or more, chas vshalom)inches of exposed naked female leg flesh for the bochurim to perv on.

Hardly tzniusdik IMHO.

[Leah]

Why is this restricted only to Lakewood?

[Bracha]

Sounds like stories my friends have told me about 13 years of catholic school - nuns measuring skirt hems.

[EileenK]

Why would any one bother with this ruler unless they wanted to play fast and loose with a conservative dress code?

Mid-calf skirts are extremely common. They are absolutely not a specialty item. You don't have to look hard to find one, and you don't need a ruler to buy one.

[Critical minyan]

A pink Rose and a ruler. Georgia o'keefe meets b&d. Reminds me of an old booty call.

[anuran]

For fuck's sake.

[Neo-conservaguy]

The local Modern Orthodox school went through a period of elevating skirt checks to the level of fetish. Teachers - secular and Judaic, men and women - would stand guard at the classroom doors and inspect the girls. Sure, there were a few girls that always obviously pushed the limits, but most were "in the ballpark". It's amazing any of the students cared about being religious after such treatment. You can't make this stuff up.

[soso]

I didn't understand how it works...

[David]

The rose is naked. Not tznius. And a red one too. Isn't this colour prohibited by the Charedim as it inflames the passions?

[Eli]

soso
The ruler is an 8 inch carboard strip, as pictured above, and folds in the middle. On the back there's a magnet at each end, so that when you fold the ruler the magnets hit each other. You fold the ruler over the skirt and the magnets hold it up.

[Eli]

Illana B.
It's 100% legit - it's been selling for the last few months, $1 a piece. If you want more info (which store) email me: exaltedinsolitude at gmail

[logic]

All three Roshei Yeshiva of BMG have to be able to insert there hand into the skirt of all Yddishe Mamas, to make sure that its not to tight.

[WoolSilkCotton]

Frumma yidden have the leadership they deserve.

If they don't want to use this idiotic ruler, let some people with courage say no.

But the ruler is selling, right? Let the sheep have the rulers they deserve.

[Jewish Prince]

Does such a ruler exist for men ?

Anthony Weiner would want one.

[ysh]

You need to h/t @dovbear for this one too. He posted it back in March. http://dovbear.blogspot.com/2011/03/tznius-ruler.html. Actually, someone else showed it to @dovbear on twitter. Who is left as an exercise.

[Yochanan Lavie]

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[Gevezener Chusid]

frankly I think that modestly dressed Hassidic and "ultra" orthodox women are a zillion times more attractive than the women and girls dressed like sluts roaming the streets who look like they forgot to put their clothes on.

If they have a tool (ok assholes, snicker at that one) that helps them measure their hemlines why the FUCK is it so GODDAMN important for you morons? (I'm using your vocabulary)

[Frozen Chosen]

Why do you need to finger point Lakewood about this? I picked mine up in Flatbush!

[Jeff]

If they have a tool (ok assholes, snicker at that one) that helps them measure their hemlines why the FUCK is it so GODDAMN important for you morons? (I'm using your vocabulary)

Posted by: Gevezener Chusid | July 01, 2011 at 11:28 AM

1. Because they're an embarrassment. In fact, I'll use your vocabulary - they're a collective shander fer de goyim;

2. Because these Neanderthals, along with their evangelical and radical Muslim counterparts, are holding back the progress of civilization and making life far more difficult for the rest of us than it has to be at this point;

3. Because it's so goddamn easy!

[Yochanan Lavie]

What's wrong with a good pair of eyeballs and some common sense to determine what's tzinyusdik or not? Why the demeaning ruler?

[EileenK]

These people feel a need to make something quite ordinary, and worn by many people women who aren't from or Jewish for reasons of comfort and decorum special.

When I went to a chabad shcul, I often found that my "big skirt," which was closer to ankle length than mid-calf (I'm short and I don't sew) was longer and looser than the rebbitzen's. Of course, I often wore a red or flaming orange t-shirt or pullover (depending on the time of year). Talk about mixed signals.

Quite simply a longer, fuller skirt is easier to move in, to sit in, to squat in, to climb stools in. I also wore the skirts to work. One should never confuse piety with practicality or measure it by the length of a skirt.

[WoolSilkCotton]

++One should never confuse piety with practicality++

Then why not wear a pair of properly fitted and fashionable slacks or a pants suit to work? Why is that so troubling for the holy rabbis?

[WoolSilkCotton]

Sometimes I wonder if it's worth the bother of typing in the 'captcha' phrase...

[WoolSilkCotton]

Eileen, when you dress in a sloppy, ill-fitting, un-fashionable schmatta skirt and gaudy T-shirt, you are achieving the opposite of tznius. I'll bet you wear sneakers with that ensemble, too.

Tznius is about not being a glaring train wreck of fashion failure. It's about looking graceful and appropriate for the occasion, without having to spend a lot, but showing like you care about the way you look, even if you're just going to the food market.

That is why, IMHO, a pair of properly fitted and fashionable slacks or a pants suit is more in keeping with the true meaning of tznius than the outfit you describe, notwithstanding what the holy rabbis say.
There are religious women where I work who dress as you describe, and they look ghastly. And there are religious women where I work who know how to dress, and they are admired and held in esteem by everyone who sees them.

[WoolSilkCotton]

What would Mr. Blackwell have said?

He was Jewish, you know, and from Brooklyn.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Blackwell

[anuran]

The rose is naked. Not tznius. And a red one too. Isn't this colour prohibited by the Charedim as it inflames the passions?

Even worse, it's a flower!!!!
Don't you realize what that means? Flowers are the turgid, swollen sex organs of plants thrusting out in all their lurid glory, sprinkling their male seed everywhere and drenching us in the crude mating scent of their vegetable lust.

And when you see bees going from flower to flower do you know what's going on? The plants are using dumb beasts to copulate with!!!

Flowers are complete pritzus. The rabbis have to ban them to protect morality.

[Bklyn11230]

I want one!!!

[Jeff]

Then why not wear a pair of properly fitted and fashionable slacks or a pants suit to work? Why is that so troubling for the holy rabbis?

Posted by: WoolSilkCotton | July 01, 2011 at 04:00 PM

WSC, I remember something I heard about 35 years ago, on a talk show on which the subject was whether or not it was acceptable for Christian women to wear pants (seriously). One woman - she might have been a nun - when told by evangelical seminary students (who, like our own yeshiva bocherim, think they have it all figured out) that the Bible forbids a woman to dress like a man, told them, "When the Bible was written, men wore dresses!"

[Jeff]

Even worse, it's a flower!!!!
Don't you realize what that means? Flowers are the turgid, swollen sex organs of plants thrusting out in all their lurid glory, sprinkling their male seed everywhere and drenching us in the crude mating scent of their vegetable lust.

Posted by: anuran | July 02, 2011 at 06:34 AM

If they understood that, there'd be a furious push to place male and female plants in separate fields and to erect mechitzas between them. Plants with both male and female reproductive organs are, of course, toevah.

[Bartley Kulp]

Shmarya is shitting us. This is a joke right?

[Maskil]

Rabbi promotes 'modesty wounds'

Girls should hurt their legs if parents won't let them wear long skirts, rabbi says

[R]

does it work with trousers?
Also when are they bringing out the special shomer anayim eye wear for men? aka blindfold.
It;s a two in one as well, especially useful in summer months when the even at night it's light outside so u can also have tzniut relations with one's spouse. Can also be used for tzniut orgies.

[Maskil]

Rabbi promotes 'modesty wounds'

What, no hat tip? I posted this over two hours before you made a post of it, and I'm pretty sure all comments go direcly to your e-mail...

[David Z]

I don't know why this bothers people. It's hard for girls to see how a skirt looks in back when they bend down. My wife has that problem all the time. This looks pretty cool.