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June 06, 2011

The Transgendered Haredi

Der Baltt 6-3-11 ma [sic] cellphone Amtrak low res Female protagonists in news stories are converted by ultra-Orthodox media to males in a gynophobic, misogynist attempt to remove women from public life.

 

C.O., a FaliedMessiah reader writes:

Charedim and Women
The Di Tzeitung saga brought some attention in the outside world to the Charedi way of life. We saw with bemusement how reporters try to grapple the whole dynamic of the complex Charedi behavior towards women, without avail. Because of the lack of understanding, some, like the Jerusalem Post, claimed that Hillary Clinton was photoshopped of the situation room photo because Charedim have “strong feelings that women should not be in positions of power,” a claim that is not really true (at least in the case of non-Jewish politicians).

But the media did not understand the real issue going on in Charedi communities; namely the ongoing proliferation of sex-related bans, and an escalation of gynophobia, culminating in extremely perverted behavior. To be clear, the policy of not publishing photos of women is not new; it has been going on for many decades now. But the sickening attitude towards women is evident in the new policies that gain more and more support.

In the past few years, Charedi newspapers adopted a new policy not to publish first names of living women; in most cases they are mentioned as “the wife of Mr. So-and-so,” or only by their initials. Dead women are exempted from this policy, perhaps necrophiliac askonim have yet to gain a stronghold.

Lately, we have seen a new phenomenon, and that is the attempt to transgenderize women whenever possible, turning them into males. This is done on a daily basis in the printed and broadcasting media.

When actress Natasha Richardson passed away following a head injury sustained when she fell during a skiing lesson, it made worldwide headlines. The Yiddish newspaper Der Blatt reported the story not indicating that Ms. Richardson was an actress and... turning her into a male! As crazy as it seems, the whole story referred to her as “he” and “him”. The Chasidic news phone line Kol Mevaser (212-444-1100) turns females into males on a daily basis. For instance, the recent story about a woman that woke up from a dental surgery with a foreign accent (http://news.google.com/news/search?aq=f&pz=1&cf=all&ned=us&hl=en&q=dental+surgery+foreign+accent) was reported this week on Kol Mevaser that it happened to a man!

Last week, a story was widely reported in the media about Lakeysha Beard, a woman who was charged with disorderly conduct for talking on her cellphone for 16 hours in the designated quiet car of an Amtrak train. (http://news.google.com/news/search?aq=f&pz=1&cf=all&ned=us&hl=en&q=Lakeysha+Beard&btnmeta_news_search=Search+News)
This story was reported in the largest and most mainstream Chasidic Yiddish newspaper as well. But as you can see in the attachment [posted below], Der Blatt neatly transgendered Ms. Beard, and turned her into a male!

Here is a translation of the report in Der Blatt. (Please note that the definite article, nouns and adjectives are used in Yiddish differently, depending on the gender. I indicated on the words that take a masculine format in the report, otherwise not discernible in a translation.)

Salem, North Carolina. – A train passenger (masculine) was removed from an Amtrak train by the police for agitating the passengers by talking on the cellphone for 16 hours without stop.

The (masculine)removed (masculine) passenger later said that he felt embarrassed and that he was not respected, and he does not understand what was wanted from him.

The story occurred on an Amtrak train ride from California to Washington D.C., when the (masculine) passenger (masculine) who (masculine) sat in one of the designated “quite cars” – where it is not permitted to talk on the cellphone –spoke on his cellphone continuously, despite the pleads of the other passengers to be quite.

The train was stopped in Salem, North Carolina, where police was called, who removed the (masculine) agitating (masculine) passenger (masculine) from the train.

Der Baltt 6-3-11 ma [sic] cellphone Amtrak low res

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Send these sniveling filthy pedophile chassidim back to the carpathian mountains or whatever shithole they crawled out of.

The way I saw it:

Simply put they created a new religion (or cult more accurately) without any remaining turrets of Judaism.

What next? change Sarah in the Torah to Sergio???

former masmid,
Not that its anything wrong,but are you gay?

Women have become so othered that other than serving them dinner and having post-mikveh relations, charedi men are completely isolated. Is it any wonder then, that they continue their isolation? Any hint of a woman and they are distracted. When women were allowed to participate in Charedi society (and they were!) you didn't need to be afraid of bumping into a bubbe on the street for fear of being sexually enticed.

In the history of this planet, has there ever been a more misogynistic and sexually immature group? How Chareidim survive without their womenfolk systematically emasculating them is beyond belief. The behaviour here reminds me of little children organizing into clubs where girls were excluded from play. Honestly, and then these foul-minded jerks have the nerve to state that they are honouring females by treating them in this manner?


Chareidi females would do a favour to themselves and to the population in general when they begin to refuse their husbands any sexual contact. However, then the little boys would be prey to all of these creepy pedophiles.

I can only heartily agree with the succinct thoughtful opinion put forth by "former masmid". Thank you for saying what's been in my mind for many years!

No, I'm not gay (not that there is anything wrong with it..).

>In the history of this planet, has there ever been a more misogynistic and sexually immature group?

most definitely yes. you ain't see nothing. but does that matter?

btw: there are some languages that only have one gender (they are not gender neutral, but rather refer to everyone as "he", and a female is determined by hinting or context. Amusingly when such people, who probably has long since lost the linguistic misogyny, learn english, they will often use he and she interchangeabley, and at first appear to not even comprehend the idea that referring to a man as She sounds strange.

shmarya - Are the facts still on Weiner's side? Maven - Breitbart's fault? Really?

The sad thing is Weiner still isn't being honest, he sent the picture as a joke? Yeah, right. Now, he won't resign. I have nothing against anyone who thinks he is proper in not resigning. However, remember this the next time a conservative does something like this. It would be intellectually dishonest to not forget this. Double standards are intellectually dishonest, period.

katzav, wiener, spitzer, strauss kahn, who's next...

this explains my strange conversation I had with a chassidha boy.

He wanted to play with my dogs so I said to him in yiddish you to ask you mamha first?

he looked at me and said mama what is a mama? I said mother mommy he still had a perplexed look on him.

I said the woman or person who makes you breakfast and send you to yeshiva.

Oh he said the thing who feeds me Ok I will ask it if I can play with your dogs

In the history of this planet, has there ever been a more misogynistic and sexually immature group?

Yes. The Saudis, the Afghans, Ancient Sparta (and certain parts of Greece to this day), China at various times in its history, "Fundamentalist" Mormons and a few others. But the Charedim are moving in that direction and forcing other Jews to go along with them.

Posted by: anuran | June 06, 2011 at 03:48 PM

yes I think the Charedim thought that they where to most strict regarding znius but now they see that there is others who are stricter and have to play catch up

Posted by: anuran | June 06, 2011 at 03:48 PM

yes I think the Charedim thought that they where to most strict regarding znius but now they see that there is others who are stricter and have to play catch up

itchie-
if all the women he interacted with were of age, then he has broken no laws. and while he should have come clean immediately, he didnt lie under oath as clinton did.
there is also a fair distinction to be made between this case, and the case of right wing "family values" types who campaign and vote for laws to limit the rights of gays, while engaging in it themselves, and who continuously denounce and attempt to control what is available on public airwaves via the FCC , while having affairs with the same or opposite sex. those people are hypocrites. weiner appears to just be guilty of really poor judgement.

Now that Weiner has admitted he is a liar, Shmaryahoooo went quiet. He is amazed, astonished, flabergasted, how could Weiner be a liar, & a pervert & who knows what else will come out? How is it possible he isn't a Chareidi & has never been, he actually is Sharyahoos hero he married out of the faith & to a moslem?
I guess when he was Israel he read that sign, or during his celibut years he read FM,he was worried about being a trans, & had to reassure himself, so he did what he did. After all he wasn't Chareidi so Shmaryahoooo will forgive him.
Or maybe he went to New Square for votes [are they in his box?] & that is where he picked up the bad habits?
Shmaryahoooo waht happens if someone exposes you one day, will that also be because you had a so called Chareidi stint at a messianic cult?

Can anyone explain me why is the Weiner story so important on FM. Is he Orthodox?

apc - It is dems that want the unfairness doctrine. Weiner can't be trusted. How do these guys think they can get away with this stuff. Surely he knew he was fried when the story first broke.

LH - You lose credibility when you bandy about the mean-spirited comments.

I do believe Shamarya had to know he was wrong when he wrote that the facts appear to be on Weiner's side.

Many of you may hate Breitbart, but he is a better journalist than the "mainstream" ones.

He took an undeserved rap on the Sherrod thing. Breitbart is responsible, and is only looking for the truth, however uncomfortable that may be to some.

Deremes - you shouldn't concern yourself with facts or relevance here. It spoils some of the fun.

Apologies to the Kinks:

I met her in a shul down in old Crown Heights
Where you drink Mountain Dew and it tastes just like cherry-cola
C-O-L-A cola
She walked up to me and she asked me to dance
I asked her her name and in a black hat voice she said Shlomo
Shin lamed mem hey Shlomo oy oy oy oy Shlomo

Well I'm not the world's metaphysical guy
But when she squeezed me tight she nearly invoked the Divine
Oh my Shlomo oy oy oy oy Shlomo
Well I'm not as frum but I can't understand
Why she walked like a woman and turned into a man
Oh my Shlomo oy oy oy oy Shlomo oy oy oy oy Shlomo

Well we drank kiddush wine and danced all night
Under Shabbos candlelight
She picked me up and sat me on her knee
And said yingeleh won't you come home with me
Well I'm not the world's most chassidic guy
But when I looked in her eyes well I almost fell for my Shlomo
oy oy oy oy Shlomo oy oy oy oy Shlomo
Shlomo oy oy oy oy Shlomo oy oy oy oy Shlomo

I pushed her away
Mezuzah on the door
I fell to the floor
I put socks on my knees
Well I looked at her and she at me

Well that's the way chareidi newspapers say
And I'll always want it to be that way for my Shlomo
Oy oy oy oy Shlomo
Girls will be boys and boys will be Goys
It's a mixed up muddled up black hat world except for Shlomo
Oy oy oy oy Shlomo

Well I'd left yeshiva just a week before
And I'd never ever kissed a woman before
But Shlomo smiled and took me to the mikveh
And said little boy I'm gonna make you my shiksa

Well I'm not the world's most masculine man
But God knows what I am and Baruch Hashem I'm a man
And so is Shlomo
Oy oy oy oy Shlomo oy oy oy oy Shlomo
Shlomo oy oy oy oy Shlomo oy oy oy oy Shlomo

"....necrophiliac askonim have yet to gain a stronghold."

LMAO!!

Itchiemayer: Did Vitter resign? Sanford? Gingrich? Thurmond?
Need I go on? The list gets much longer.

I always wondered how do the black clad fascist jews determine if something is sexually enticing, maybe the black clad leader who bans it, is a pervert and he gets turned on from anything, but ordinary people would not be turned on, by women walking the streets or reading a womens name
And since when do jews wear black, as far i know black was never a jewish color, but the color of the church

the black clad fascist jews should do a survey before issuing a ban, to see if the sheeple get turned on by such clothing, etc.

jay - I'm not calling for his resignation. I believe in elections, which is why I am against term limits. If we get stuck with the same lousy people, it is our own fault. If Weiner's district want him (as they probably still do), then he has every right to be in congress.

Nevertheless, do you deny there is a double standard in the media which strongly favors the left?

Yochanan, beautiful! And I've always said that less frum women should leer at black hats and make lewd comments, telling them that the men are inviting their comments for dressing so enticingly like whores. That would confuse them so much their heads might explode.

Thanks, Dovit.

Yochanan- you are delightful. You should gather up all of your songs and release them in book form! Just make sure to add a disclaimer 'WARNING! The contents of this book may lead to mixed dancing. Handle with care!'


LH - forgotten your medication?

Yochanan - that was epic!

itchiemayer-- yes, I don't believe the media favors the left. I believe they favor their corporate owners and corporate sponsors to the exclusion of left or right

Itchymeyer attacks my mean comment & no light, who will never see the light goes on about meds.
The bottomm line is Shmaryahoo defended Weiner's lies, had he been anything orthodox he would have been 100% guilty to Shmaryahoo, without trial, if he would of won in court. Shmaryahoo would go on what lyer his lawyer was, but the liberal who married a Muslim, is Shmaryahoooooo's hero, so even hours after his admission & appology, Shmaryahoooo is quiet.
I demand Shmaryahooooo make a public apology, and admit that he judges chareidim, differently than liberal Jews. He is Don Chareidim lekaf Chov, & liberal lekaf zechus.
To Defy the chazal, im roiso tzadik oiver aveirah bayoim, al teharer achaoi balayloh shevadai asah tshuvah.
I don't believe you will apologize, because Yerovam Ben Nevot you will not be given a chance to do tshuva.After being Choiteh Umachtie es harabim. The only chance is no one is here for anything but entertainment.

Thanks to No Light, Anuran.

Loshonhora considering that the Orthodox sites refuse to report haredi crime or heinous acts by right wing politicians, and considering how frequently they attack leftists or non-Orthodox jews, you really come off as a hypocrite and fool

why would FM post about weiner this is not a news site about everything.

it says covering orthodox Judaism

Jay I am not a journalist nor do I own any of those sites so I am not a hypocrite. You are the fool though.

YL -

Your best yet!!!

Can anyone explain me why is the Weiner story so important on FM. Is he Orthodox?

It's because he has the perfect name for the scandal!!!

My favorite headline thus far was Thursday's NY Post:

WEINER EXPOSED

Loshonhora, that was about the weakest response you could have offered. You're not the editor. You're not the editor of this site either, are you?
Show us how many posts you have on VIN, Cross-Currents, YeshivaWorld, Hamodia, Matzav where you criticize the site for "racist" comments about Non-Orthodox Jews.

You don't even know how to use the word racism Haredim are not a race.

VIN however does post pictures of women

Thanks, Dr. Dave.

Show us how many posts you have on VIN, Cross-Currents, YeshivaWorld, Hamodia, Matzav where you criticize the site for "racist" comments about Non-Orthodox Jews.

You don't even know how to use the word racism Haredim are not a race.

Posted by: jay | June 06, 2011 at 07:59 PM

if you read the story about skver

the readers do not even know who tried to torch the house. They do not know that is was a jew do not know it was a skver chussid and do not know it was the rebbies house bocher.

They make it sound like it was just a crime like any other

They make it sound like it was just a crime like any other

Posted by: seymour | June 06, 2011 at 08:44 PM

i meant read it on matav

yochanan-
youre on a roll!

Simply put they created a new religion (or cult more accurately) without any remaining turrets of Judaism.

Ahh yeah, the cell phone lady on the Superliner story.

I remember that story about Lakeyesha and the Amtrak train (in English). I was impressed by the train stopping at an intersection and letting her off IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET (according to the video), not all that far from the tail end of the line, in a situation where Amtrak probably had the opportunity to kick her off much earlier. I find it pretty funny that the Hareidi Yiddish press decided to get into the matter and change her gender... what's the point? Does someone have to be male to be rude in the Yiddish press? LOL!

Also, I suppose Der Blatt is a bit pro-Amtrak (which I don't mind), given that it appears (from your translation) to report a transcontinental trip overnight (16 hours)... this would've been perhaps a three-day or four-day trip in real life... the real destination was Portland, Oregon, and the takeoff was done in Salem, Oregon, not Salem, North Carolina.

So I suppose the Daily Blatt doesn't know American geography... :)

I'm surprised Amtrak handled it at all. Last year, I complained about two women on the quiet car who wouldn't stop talking, and the young conductor wouldn't do anything. I later called Amtrak and complained, and all I got was a weak, obviously insincere apology. Once, when I complained to Greyhound about a similar incident, they had the brains to credit me for the price of the ticket.

The bottom line is that people have no idea of how to behave any longer, and no one is trained in how to deal with it. People are morons.

Oh he said the thing who feeds me Ok I will ask it if I can play with your dogs

Seymour, I'm confused. Yiddish has the word, "mameh". They don't use it?

So LH, Shmarya is 'racist' for not printing the Weiner story, and now he's a 'racist' for printing it?

Yeah, you're definitely off your medication. For the last time CHAREDI IS NOT A RACE. Shoteh.

Religionism and racism are two different things.

Posted by: Jeff | June 07, 2011 at 04:58 AM

I was referring/joking to the issue that they do not use female anymore when they write stories.

They are trying to vanquish woman it seems

Sort of on topic:

Taken from COLLIVE: Tznius, Shidduchim and Sheitels

http://www.collive.com/show_news.rtx?id=14878&alias=tznius-shidduchim-and-sheitels

"Vacation Crown Heights, Machon Chana's summer learning program for Lubavitch women in the Brooklyn neighborhood, is returning for another season of interesting classes and useful workshops."


About fuckings wigs, getting knocked up, and wearing unflattering stretched dresses? Women are dogs in these chareidi societies. This is why I'll never understand how the chassidishe kiruv organizations are able to recruit young secular woman.

http://www.collive.com/show_news.rtx?id=14878&alias=tznius-shidduchim-and-sheitels

Posted by: Yissy-Ca | June 07, 2011 at 08:43 AM

that shiksa on the right... i can see up his sleeve

This is why I'll never understand how the chassidishe kiruv organizations are able to recruit young secular woman.

Low self-esteem and a need to invest in authority figures.

Thanks, APC.

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