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June 16, 2011

Rabbis Sentence Dog To Death

Black Dog A Jerusalem rabbinical court recently sentenced a wandering dog to death by stoning. The cruel sentence stemmed from the suspicion that the spirit of a famous secular lawyer, who insulted the court's judges 20 years ago, had been transferred into the dog's body.

 

Dog sentenced to death by stoning
Rabbinical court rules spirit of secular lawyer who insulted judges 20 years ago transferred into wandering dog's body
Akiva Novick • Ynet

A Jerusalem rabbinical court recently sentenced a wandering dog to death by stoning. The cruel sentence stemmed from the suspicion that the spirit of a famous secular lawyer, who insulted the court's judges 20 years ago, had been transferred into the dog's body.

Several weeks ago, according to the Behadrei Hadarim website, a large dog entered the Monetary Affairs Court near the ultra-Orthodox neighborhood of Mea Shearim. The dog scared the court's visitors and, to their surprise, refused to leave even after they attempted to drive him away.

One of the judges suddenly recalled that about 20 years ago, a famous secular lawyer who insulted the court was cursed by the panel of judges, who wished that his spirit would move on to the body of a dog (considered an impure animal by Halacha). The lawyer passed away several years ago.
 
Still offended, one of the judges sentenced the poor animal to death by stoning, recruiting the neighborhood's children to carry out the order. Luckily, the dog managed to escape.

The head of the court, Rabbi Avraham Dov Levin, denied that the judges had called for the dog's stoning. But one of the court's managers confirmed the report to Yedioth Ahronoth.
 
"It was ordered by the rabbis because of the grief he had caused the court," he said. "They didn't issue an official ruling, but ordered the children outside to throw stones at him in order to drive him away. They didn't think of it as cruelty to animals, but as an appropriate way to 'get back at' the spirit which entered the poor dog."

Jerusalem City Council Member and social activist Rachel Azaria sent an urgent letter to the attorney general, calling on him to "deal with the criminals". The Let the Animals Live organization filed a complaint with the police against Rabbi Levin.

Related Post: Haredim Stone Dog In Reincarnation Payback?

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Maybe the dog was possessed by the same spirit that possessed the talking dog that gave homicidal orders to the Son of Sam, David Berkowitz. Look how much damage HE did.

Could not the rabbi's have held a dog exorcism instead of a stoning? There must be a formula for that in the Kabbalah.

it is beyond comprehention how stupid and idiotic learned rabbis can be this is the ultimate in stupidity its like they live tottally detached from the real world.

"the suspicion that the spirit of a famous secular lawyer, who insulted the court's judges 20 years ago, had been transferred into the dog's body."

This is serious Twilight Zone Shit.

this is how they knew this was the same guy and dog

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Who is the the attorney who was incarnated as a dog?

And these morons are judges? Rabbinical courts are a joke.

So who are you to make these jokes? Are you a Gadol? I was bitten by a dog once and I am certain it held the neshama of Bogdan Chmelnitzki. Who can say I am wrong?

These Rabbis lack the intellectual and spiritual capacities to keep kids frum, yet they believe have such deep insight as to reach this conclusion.

Urging children to harm animals is a kind of child abuse as it warps their developing capacity for empathy. What sorts of adults will thse children become? Who will they stone as adults? Fairly recently I had an argument with a friend and her husband on the importance of the mitzvah of tza'ar baalei chayim (sensitivity towards the suffering of non-human creatures) and its urgent need to be emphasized in Israel, and expressed in charedi and other religious communities communities. They argued that given the existence of far more urgent child abuse problems, emphasizing this issue was obscene. I argued in return that that might seem the case if you disconnect the two issues, but as in all things, the two are connected. Is empathy for the other innate or learned? Is fear of the other, and violence towards the other innate or learned behavior? tza'ar baalei chayim and v'ahavta l'reiekha kamokha are in the Torah because even if caring is innate, it needs to emphasized and acted upon in this world where there is always a temptation to cause harm or else to harm through callous negligence. This sad story unfortunately shows the connection between the two mitzvot.

Insane, evil, cruel, knuckle-dragging, dirt-bags. Next thing you know, they will be stoning each other and holding witch trials.

Who can say I am wrong?

Posted by: Shmuley Shmiley | June 16, 2011 at 09:28 AM

maybe it was just a dog who bite you because you are a mororn

maybe the judges where reincarnated from a dog and just did not like one dog

This website doesn't present the other side of the story.

The dog is clearly a gilgul of the secular lawyer, assuming that the beis din paskined this way. If you live in Jerusalem, these types of things happen all the time. The female cats there are all gilgulim of zonot.

Shmarya, would you like to be reincarnated as a dog? I don't think so.

Starting fires.
Torturing animals.
All we need is confirmation of widespread bedwetting and the "gedolim" fit the classic trio for psychopaths.

And how far removed is this from throwing stones at the sky during eclipses to scare the demon eating the sun awaay?

But it give me an idea for a new reality show, Rabbi Island.

20 Rabbis on an island, and they make judgements on each other until only one is left.

The winner gets a new hat.

Betzalel

The dog is clearly a gilgul of the secular lawyer, assuming that the beis din paskined this way


what about my dogs and cats who where they way back when

Shmarya it is time that you create a new tag for your posts: "taliban". This one certainly qualifies.

Any one else agree?

Actually, Maariv apologized for fabricating the part about the Rabbis ordering the stoning:

http://lifeinisrael.blogspot.com/2011/06/maariv-apologizes-about-misleading.html

Please.

Try reading the following two paragraphs, slowly and several time over if you need to:
The head of the court, Rabbi Avraham Dov Levin, denied that the judges had called for the dog's stoning. But one of the court's managers confirmed the report to Yedioth Ahronoth.

"It was ordered by the rabbis because of the grief he had caused the court," he said. "They didn't issue an official ruling, but ordered the children outside to throw stones at him in order to drive him away. They didn't think of it as cruelty to animals, but as an appropriate way to 'get back at' the spirit which entered the poor dog."

What about causing pain to a living
animal ?

theese hassidim manipulate the torah to their liking they are their own god they only feel powerfull when they can get away with murder or worse.the whole toreh is a big joke to them the only way they can experience god if they actually act like one its self duping they play with the mind mind games is what they are good at.

i dont see what the big surprise is. once youve accepted the "big" myth of the existence of a sky friend who wrote a book which is a guide to morality which calls for stoning , strangling and burning to death HUMAN BEINGS for offenses such as squeezing liquid from an object on a particular day of the week, its just a yawn away from deciding that an insignificant dog should be put to death for some perceived affront to sky-friend.
when i read all the comments rightly condemning the deluded fools who were behind this event, its hard not to notice that the religious posters are equally deluded. even if not to the point of permitting their acceptance of cruelty to humans who disobey the torah to carry over to innocent animals.

I had an extensive discussion on this issue with my own dog, Menachem Mendel, and after consulting the Mishneh Torah and the Zohar he assured me that the rabbis' decision was correct. The he pee'd on the carpet to emphasize his point.

An attorney who gets reincarnated as a dog and then gets tortured ?

seems to me a fitting and just conclusion.

Hypothetical for anybody that sides with the Rabbis...

If the soul was put into the dog by God for disobeying the Torah, wasn't the command by the Rabbi's to kill the dog an affront to God by circumventing God's punishment by releasing the soul from the dog?

Or more simply, if God put the man in jail as a punishment, shouldn't the Rabbis be punished for breaking him out?

Posted by: tonda | June 16, 2011 at 12:27 PM

his soul was in the dog to annoy the rebbies

Too bad they didn't impose this sentence on that now deceased lawyer.

Really, Joseph?

I read somewhere about some guy who said something about casting the first stone...

Not that I necessarily believe everything in that particular book, but good advice is good advise no matter where it comes from.

Or would you be in favor of doing an "Oliver Cromwell" on him an dig up his body just so he can be executed?

Posted by: Lamed Vovnik | June 16, 2011 at 12:25 PM

I told my dog the story and he said no way would a dog accept the soul of a lawyer. A honest rebbie maybe, a scholar, a great general, or maybe even a simple yid who was a very good guy, but not a lawyer or politician.

He said us dogs do have some pride you know

Poor dog

Please.

Try reading the following two paragraphs, slowly and several time over if you need to:


The head of the court, Rabbi Avraham Dov Levin, denied that the judges had called for the dog's stoning. But one of the court's managers confirmed the report to Yedioth Ahronoth.

"It was ordered by the rabbis because of the grief he had caused the court," he said. "They didn't issue an official ruling, but ordered the children outside to throw stones at him in order to drive him away. They didn't think of it as cruelty to animals, but as an appropriate way to 'get back at' the spirit which entered the poor dog."

Right. So in other words, they did NOT sentence the dog to death by stoning. They threw stones at it in order to drive it away. Hence, the story as you reported it is incorrect. It's important never to exaggerate or misrepresent stories - if you do, then you won't be taken seriously when you report the truth.

Posted by: Moshe | June 17, 2011 at 01:57 AM

Try to wrap your mind around this fact: al pi halakha, a stone is a deadly weapon.

If those kids were throwing stones at you, would you cover your head?

A dog can't cover its head.

And clearly the rabbis ordered the kids to throw stones at the dog, with no concern whether or not the dog would be injured or killed.

So the issue boils down to whether we believe rabbis who have already been caught lying, and who have ordered a cruel attack on this dog, or if we use our common sense.

Of course, you don't have much common sense to use, it seems.

Geez, maybe they could follow God's word and learn to forgive whoever this lawyer was and feel peace in their hearts about past transgressions instead of holding onto a decades old grudge. And practice compassion toward animals! If they can't manage something so simple,they should stone each other if they remain so ignorant and violent. I love the post that suggested someone start a TV show called Rabbi Island where they all stone each other and the winner gets a hat. Or maybe the animals on the island stone them until they learn compassion--ha, but animals wouldn't do that. If violence and intolerance is all these men have in their hearts, have at it with each other you heartless religious hypocrites. Let the innocent animals alone.

Is there an animal rescue group who could rescue this dog and get him to a loving home?

why don't they find and stone the rampant child molester PEOPLE in this community with their ridiculous hocus-pocus instead of narishkeit like this?

This story just brokie yesterday in the UK international press - BBC headline. I read one funny blog piece here
http://bit.ly/9m6prt

This story is a hoax. The religious court released an official statement, denying the story in its entirety and condemning the press for failing to check the facts before publishing the claims:

‘The only thing that happened… was that the judges called 106- the Jerusalem Municipal dispatch in charge of stray dogs – requesting that the dog be picked up from Beth Din. Until that happened, the dog sat down in the corner- peaceful, calm and unharmed. That story can be verified with the municipal dispatch.

‘It’s bitter humor by the person who invented the story, a horrible, pointless joke that’s not even funny. The person who made that up, perhaps because they wanted to confuse the people hearing the story, or to embarrass their listeners in their ignorance, no doubt thought that their words will be not taken seriously.

‘There is no basis for such a thing, not Halachic [according to Jewish law] nor within reason. Never was nor will there ever be a stoning of dogs or any animal in the Jewish religion. Never- not in ancient times, going as far back as the temple or Abraham’s days. It is so absurd and fabricated, and never happened.’

Well, Rebecca, I've seen haredi children with my own eyes throwing rocks at dogs, cats, even trying to drive a mother cat away from her small kittens using a stick. when I intervened, they looked defiant and very proud of themselves. They clearly had no concept that there was a Torah law about treating animals kindly.

Aharon Varady, great post. Everything you said was right on.

Stories like this make me sick. I went to Israel assuming I would lead a haredi life and after a few months, I wondered if I even wanted to be Jewish at all. I have spoken to more "reasonable" haredim about my concerns and they either give me a blank look or they get very defensive of their fellow haredim. When you have that kind of bad attitude, there is no hope for change.

Batya, if you wondered if you ever wanted to be jewish at all, it just means that you never really had a jewish soul.

Rebecca this story was made up just to make the haredim look bad.

Shmarya, I heard from a friend that Maariv was the source of this story and published a retraction. Apparently, the story began as a joke. I also heard about the official statement of the Beis Din regarding this. Any help confirming whether this was indeed a fake story that went viral would be appreciated.

What happened is that Ma'ariv essentially took a Behadrei Haredi report and used it.

The, when the story went viral, pro-Israel activists – mostly Orthodox and right wing – attacked the story as fake.

Ma'ariv then spoke with the Av Beit Din, who said the story was false.

Meanwhile, Ynet spoke with an administrator of that beit din who CONFIRMED THE STORY WAS TRUE.

He said the rabbis thought the dog could be a reincarnation of the hated secular lawyer and told the kids to stone it to drive it away.

Honest Reporting did a story about the 'fake' dog stoning that failed to mention Behadrei Haredim is an haredi website or identify it by name. It falsely attributes the story to the secular Ma'ariv, notes Ma'ariv's retraction as if it were a total retraction, and briefly mentions Ynet's report without mentioning that report clearly stated that Yediot had confirmed the event happened.

Meanwhile, many in the international media, noting Ma'ariv's apology for not checking with the beit din before publishing the story, apologized and pulled the story from their websites, assuming it was tainted.

At the same time, hundreds of hasbarah activists were bombarding the BBC, Ynet, etc. for publishing the 'fake' story, and the Government of Israel appears to have jumped in to press the case that this was the worst PR disaster for the country in a very long time, and pleading with media to remove it.

Ynet, alone and embattled, pulled the story but did not print a retraction or note any error – apparently because there had been none.

Honest Reporting, et al, used this incident to 'show' the antisemitic anti-Israel behavior of the international media, lambasting them for printing an unconfirmed story – when, of course, they printed a story based on Ma'ariv's story, and in most cases, cited Ma'ariv as the source.

Honest Reporting's piece was clearly intentionally deceptive – egregiously so.

But that did not stop the right wing and Orthodox chorus from using it to 'defend' Israel.

omg!!the poor dog!! T___T how stupid can human beings get!!!!!despicable!!!!

religion! Both in Jews, Muslims AND some Christians are really a joke. But its sad that so many people give them credence!

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