Jew Who Allegedly Attacked Turkish Neighbors Was Attacked First, Daughter Says
The daughter of a Brooklyn man charged with attacking his Turkish neighbors and calling them "Arab terrorists" insisted Tuesday that her father wasn't a bigot. "I'm very upset because I'm dating a Muslim and my family is being called racist," said Mazo Schwartz, whose father, Simchon Schwartz, 46, was charged with felony hate crimes. After his arrest at a Chabad House in Mill Basin, Simchon Schwartz, who smelled of alcohol at the time, kicked out the window of a police car.
Jewish suspect accused of assaulting Turkish neighbors was attacked first, his daughter says
Amir Khan and Bill Hutchinson • New York Daily News
The daughter of a Brooklyn man charged with attacking his Turkish neighbors and calling them "Arab terrorists" insisted Tuesday that her father wasn't a bigot.
"I'm very upset because I'm dating a Muslim and my family is being called racist," said Mazo Schwartz, whose father, Simchon Schwartz, 46, was charged with felony hate crimes.
Cops arrested Simchon Schwartz, who is Jewish, at a Mill Basin synagogue after the alleged attack Saturday night on his next-door neighbors Selda and Mustafa Turan.
Although Simchon Schwartz's family and his rabbi claim he was the victim in the ugly incident, Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly said Simchon Schwartz was the culprit in the encounter in front of his E. 70th St. home. "The information I have is that Mr. Schwartz poured a beer can over Mustafa Turan's wife's head and when Mustafa tried to prevent this, [Schwartz] punched him," Kelly said. "He made anti-Arab statements,"
Mustafa Turan, 32, suffered a gash to his nose that required three stitches. The Turans have not publicly commented on the attack. They remained in seclusion.
Mazo Schwartz claimed Mustafa Turan attacked her dad and shouted an anti-Semitic slur. "My father was walking down the street. They exchanged words, and he [Mustafa Turan] hit him," she said. "We couldn't call the cops because it was the Shabbas."
Her boyfriend of two years, Amer Nicocevic, an Albanian, said Simchon Schwartz never hassled him about being Muslim. "He opened the door and welcomed me in," Nicocevic said.
Simchon Schwartz, a car dealer, was charged with felony assault and felony criminal mischief, both as hate crimes. He could get up to 15 years in prison if convicted.
After his arrest at a Chabad House in Mill Basin, Simchon Schwartz, who smelled of alcohol at the time, kicked out the window of a police car, a law enforcement source said. He was released without bail but ordered to stay away from the Turans, whose townhouse shares a common wall with his home.
Residents of the block where the Turan and Schwartz families live said a feud has simmered between the couples since the Turans moved in a month ago.
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{Hat Tip: Morris the Katz.]
It seems to me that odd that a girl who is dating a goy is so worried about "shabbas" that she's not calling the police. I would suggest that this calls her credibility into question.
Posted by: Gevezener Chusid | June 29, 2011 at 09:19 AM
Speaking of abusive members of the Chabad community...
How is it conceivable that an openly and unapologetically misogynistic man like Rabbi Groner in the modern & enlightened city of Melbourne, Australia, got away with running several schools for 50 years without his competency ever being queried by government or law officials?
It had nothing to do with the government’s disinclination to step on the toes of a community who count a disproportionately high number of millionaires amongst its members, now would it?
Groner would never have gotten away with housing and then concealing the identity of a pedophile from the rest of the world for 15 odd years, unless he knew he could rely on the 100% silence of not only the Chabad community, but the entire Melbourne Jewish community when it comes to child abuse.
He knew that the denial of child molestation in that community is so ingrained, there was no chance that anyone would ever speak up.
And he was right.
To name a few amongst the wealthiest:
Joseph Gutnick- mining magnate.
Solomon Lew- Billionaire businessman.
John Gandel & Marc Besen- Founder/ Owners of Chadstone Shopping Centre and Sussan fashion chain.
Frank Lowy- Founder of the Westfield Group.
Fried family- Owners of Spotlight fabric chain stores.
etc, etc, etc.
They, all of them, have been literally sitting around in their mansions while
Jewish children, either within walking distance or at most a 15 minute drive across town, have been daily raped and otherwise tormented.
And it has been happening for many, many years.
They say that money talks.
Apparently, it talked so loudly, it drowned out all the screaming.
You have permission to despise them, there is no issue of racial vilification here.
Anti-Semitism does not apply to pedophiles, nor to those who know and keep silent, nor to those who sleep peacefully at the thought that their swimming pools and tennis courts are safely blocking the view.
Evil is evil the world over, whether found in a raincoat in a dark alleyway, a beard and sidelocks in a synagogue or designer heels in a three storey mansion in South Caulfield.
And let no one in the Melbourne Jewish community think for a moment that the rest of the world will keep silent, once they find out the full extent of the crime that has taken place.
Posted by: Sarah | June 29, 2011 at 09:19 AM
I am thoroughly disgusted with the categorization of certain crimes as 'hate crimes'. Mugging an 85 year old woman, raping her, robbing and stabbing her is not a hate crime. Kiddly diddling a 3 year old girl and mentally scaring her for life is also not a 'hate crime'.
Posted by: yidandahalf | June 29, 2011 at 09:20 AM
She is, by her own admission, dating a Muslim and in the photo wearing a tank top and she won't call the police because the incident occurred on shabbos? Any credibility she may have garnered just flew out the window.
Posted by: yidandahalf | June 29, 2011 at 09:22 AM
Wow. Shmarya did some serious editing of that photo. Let's just say Ms. Schwartz likes to let it all hang out...
Posted by: effie | June 29, 2011 at 09:24 AM
Reading her statement, I suspect the daughter is only repeating what she heard and was not a witness to the allege assault on her father.
Posted by: effie | June 29, 2011 at 09:29 AM
Sarah's post being OT (who cares?) was exceptionately well written. Great post.
Posted by: yidandahalf | June 29, 2011 at 10:01 AM
I need to point out that the above poster should not be confused in any way with lower case sarah who is a challenged individual and has been littering the slaughter threads without rest.
Posted by: yidandahalf | June 29, 2011 at 10:03 AM
Wow. Shmarya did some serious editing of that photo. Let's just say Ms. Schwartz likes to let it all hang out...
Posted by: effie | June 29, 2011 at 09:24 AM
he just cropped it
Posted by: seymour | June 29, 2011 at 10:05 AM
frum cannot call on shobbos and the father does not mind she is dating a Muslim a non Jew.
is something fishy with this story
Posted by: seymour | June 29, 2011 at 10:06 AM
to me it look like she is doped up using some mind altering drug what in the world is she talking about dating a muslim and being shomer shabbas this is too much the whole family is difunctional a bunch of lowlifes.
Posted by: jancsipista | June 29, 2011 at 10:19 AM
Why in heaven'as name would you call this girl's father a Chareidi or a Chassid?
Posted by: art | June 29, 2011 at 10:29 AM
Why in heaven'as name would you call this girl's father a Chareidi or a Chassid?
Posted by: art | June 29, 2011 at 10:29 AM
Why in heaven's name not?
Because the girl is not Orthodox?
Because you expect a true haredi to cut off all contact with kid who are 'of the derech'?
Because you don't recognize BTs as hasidim wor hardim when they do something bad?
Posted by: Shmarya | June 29, 2011 at 10:32 AM
http://youtu.be/yUalB0KGLck
Posted by: 613ENFORCER | June 29, 2011 at 10:38 AM
Because you don't recognize BTs as hasidim wor hardim when they do something bad?
Posted by: Shmarya | June 29, 2011 at 10:32 AM
maybe this is the case
Posted by: seymour | June 29, 2011 at 10:38 AM
That picture here reminds me of the one in Die Zeitung showing the Situation Room.
In each case, the best part of the photo was cropped out.
Posted by: Morris the Katz | June 29, 2011 at 10:51 AM
chillul shabbos is a lot bigger sin then dating a goy. so with your logic if someone steals he should have no problem doing chillul shabbos. now that puts a whole lotta frum jews in that catagory
Posted by: deremes is sheker | June 29, 2011 at 10:57 AM
http://youtu.be/yUalB0KGLck
Posted by: 613ENFORCER | June 29, 2011 at 10:38 AM
the rebbie said we are not teaching to hate no such thing
maybe he did not read the Tanya.
Or maybe since the rebbie said it it is not hate just a fact
Posted by: seymour | June 29, 2011 at 11:08 AM
"I" am dating an Arab, therefore "My Father" cannot be a bigot.
Posted by: Great Logic | June 29, 2011 at 12:18 PM
I'm dating a Muslim but couldn't call on Shabbos?
Posted by: 613ENFORCER | June 29, 2011 at 12:25 PM
deremes is sheker
I suppose it all depends on how much understanding Schwartz has of the real laws. For one thing, drawing blood as described here (assuming it happened) on Shabbat is already a full-blown death-penalty violation (if deliberate).
And it is a very small minority that considers a phone call to be Torah based prohibition, and even then, there is no problem in reducing its severity with a little connivance (use an elbow, hold it upside down, whatever). If indeed violence was involved against Schwartz, then there is little problem in finding a way to call the police.
Of course, it is also possible Schwartz has no concept of how the rules actually work.
Posted by: george | June 29, 2011 at 12:29 PM
Great Logic
The alleged Muslim allegedly told reporters he was welcomed by the "father" into the house and never had problem.
Posted by: george | June 29, 2011 at 12:42 PM
it's starting to make sense now. he's probably normally able to suppress it, but he's drinking because he's upset with his daughter, then takes it out on the neighbors.
Posted by: Proton Soup | June 29, 2011 at 02:24 PM
kicked out a window of a police car?-theyre not makin jews like jesus anymore.
Posted by: tooclose2detroit | June 29, 2011 at 03:49 PM
Why no story about the jewish kid that got the shit beat out him in clown heights by 2 black thugs?
how come Shmear-Yah doesnt try to collect funds to pay for that kids hospital bills?
why dont the readers of this blog demand that Shmear-Yah cover jews getting injured by blacks, instead of only by jews.
how many of you think that if 2 jews would have beaten the shit out of a black in clown heights then it wouldnt have been all over this fucking blog every day and in every way??-Tell the truth, you jackasses.
Shmear-Yah-You suck!
Posted by: tooclose2detroit | June 29, 2011 at 05:24 PM
Re: the skeptical comments about the daughter not using the phone on Shabbat, although she is dating a non-Jew--it's not impossible that she keeps Shabbat when she is visiting her Orthodox Jewish parents. Many people are not shomer shabbat, but keep it when they stay with observant family--it's not impossible that her father told her it wasn't necessary to call the police about the altercation with Turan at first. Also, there are interfaith couples where the Jewish partner does indeed choose to keep Jewish law as best as they can. I lived with a non-Jewish girlfriend for several years and we kept a kosher kitchen (kashered by a Chabad rabbi),milchik sink and fleshik sink, two sets of dishes and cutlery; the whole nine yards (and paper and plastic for treif take out); I was never fully shomer shabbos in that period, but I also belonged to an Orthodox shul and was a semi-regular minyan-goer , rarely missed shabbos davening and usually came to weekday shaharit several times a month--all the while while I was living with a non-Jewish woman. These things happen. There are a lot of confused people out there.
Posted by: Mikey | June 29, 2011 at 07:16 PM
Posted by: tooclose2detroit | June 29, 2011 at 05:24 PM
why dont the readers of this blog demand that Shmear-Yah cover jews getting injured by blacks, instead of only by jews.
@tooclose2detroit
He can write about what he wants to write about. It's his blog. You can make your own blog and write what you want to write about.
Posted by: Mikey | June 29, 2011 at 07:18 PM
Posted by: george | June 29, 2011 at 12:29 PM
george
its Brooklyn, you can walk to a police station
sit on a bust block and a car will pass.
or they could have told the shobbos goy to call
Posted by: seymour | June 29, 2011 at 07:28 PM
Orthodox Jew with yarmulke just caught Jorge Posada's home run during Yankee game! He, his son, and other family all got solid TV time. Lots of yarmulkes in the lower right field deck.
Another orthodox Jew caught a homerun a couple of days ago on TV at The Stadium.
The Jews are taking over.
Posted by: WoolSilkCotton | June 29, 2011 at 08:29 PM
He can write about what he wants to write about. It's his blog. You can make your own blog and write what you want to write about.
Posted by: Mikey
sure Mikey-and i can point out what a hypocritical piece of shit he is-if this poor kid would have been beaten by white christians, then it would been all over this pukes blog-but since it was done by black thugfux, he ignores it-touch a black, all over his blog-blacks beating people up, and it never happened-i want to point that out, so that anyone with any semblance of intelligence or objectivity would then realize what this puke is up to-you, and from what i can tell most of the other libboshits that read this thing, are obviously beyond hope-how this obvious hypocrisy and intentional protection of evil doesnt bother people like you is still a mystery to me, but i guess it just boils down to "liberalism is a fucking mental disorder".
Posted by: tooclose2detroit | June 29, 2011 at 10:39 PM
he is a good man and a baal chesed. guess alcohol can mess things up pretty bad.
Posted by: David Kirzner | June 29, 2011 at 10:41 PM
Liberalism is not a mental disorder.
You, however, are clearly mentally disturbed. Go get he mental health counseling you need.
Posted by: Shmarya | June 29, 2011 at 10:42 PM
There are some issues in that neighbourhood.
Posted by: Adam Neira | June 29, 2011 at 11:01 PM
Sounds like 2closetodetroit thinks beating up black people or muslims is fine. He certainly isn't putting the Jews that beat up blacks and Muslims in the same category as the black guys that did the beating. Now why would that be? If he is excusing crime, then by his own philosophy, he must be liberal! What was that he said? Liberalism is a mental disorder?! a ha!
Posted by: Dovit | June 29, 2011 at 11:07 PM
Posted by: tooclose2detroit | June 29, 2011 at 10:39 PM
you, and from what i can tell most of the other libboshits that read this thing, are obviously beyond hope-
A couple of clarifications. If by "Libboshit," you mean, "liberal," I'm not one. (Unless it's liberal to be all over the political map and and consider and weigh various approaches.)
Second, from what I can tell, you read this thing a whole lot more than I do. I discovered the blog shortly after it first debuted, but months (and sometimes years) go by without me looking at it. I think SR does a valuable service in some respects, and he's off-base and thin-skinned when it comes to criticizing him about other stuff.
sure Mikey-and i can point out what a hypocritical piece of shit he is-
And yes, you can point out what what you think is SR's hypocrisy but in point of fact you urged people to "DEMAND" (your word) that SR cover what you think he should cover. Who are you to "demand" what he should write about? You want to point out what you think is his hypocrisy, nu, fine, point it out. But you don't have any right to "demand" anything of the blogowner. He has a tip jar, maybe if you donate a few hundred thousand dollars, he might consider your editorial input.
Posted by: Mikey | June 30, 2011 at 01:24 AM
You, however, are clearly mentally disturbed. Go get he mental health counseling you need.
Posted by: Shmarya
exposing you as a hypocrite is all the counseling I will ever need-O-btw-in case i hadnt asked-where IS that story about the jewish kid in clown heights that got the shit kicked out of him by 2 black thugs?-if he were beaten by white christian thugs, you woulda made it a grossa maysa-but, you protect black thugs-why dont you seek mental counseling to find out how you became so twisted that you are incapable of seeing any faults with blacks, and automatically and consistently hold them up as faultless deities-i believe its because you have a not so secret crush on young muscular black men-which is fine, because that lowers the chances that you will reproduce-which is really good news for the world!-But I will take pleasure in exposing you-until you do me a favor and ban me already.
Posted by: tooclose2detroit | June 30, 2011 at 08:13 AM
There are some issues in that neighbourhood.
Posted by: Adam Neira
yes, I am sure that you would say it was the kids fault-it's NEVER the blacks fault-"They are so perfect, and we, we are so flawed" is no doubt your mantra.
Posted by: tooclose2detroit | June 30, 2011 at 08:16 AM
I would still like to know why the boobs were edited out.
If the picture needed to be cropped, the boobs should have remained in the center.
2c2d, I searched through the past few weeks of CrownHeights.Info, and did not see the incident you claim happened. There are some stories of frumma beating up other frumma, including today's headline story there.
In a neighborhood like that, there is bound to be some black-on-white, black-on-black, and now frum-on-frum crime. Crown Heights and neighboring Bed-Sty (aka Pig-Sty) are still the shittiest parts of Crooklyn.
If you choose to live in a dangerous shitty neighborhood, you cannot expect people to get excited when they hear you got robbed.
Posted by: WoolSilkCotton | June 30, 2011 at 09:21 AM
Mikey- I think tooclose2beingbanned is using 'liberal' to mean "anyone savvy enough to realise I'm desperately suppressing my desire to be banged senseless by the ghetto boys. I cover and try to hide with filthy racist outbursts and by lashing out at anyone who might see straight through me and uncover my interracial homosexual fantasies"
We'll daven for the poster who doth protest too much, and hope he comes to terms with his inner turmoil soon. B'hatzlacha to you 2c2d, that you will overcome your 'problem' with Hashem's help.
Shelo asani 2c2d, for his struggle to accept himself for who he is will be a tough one.
Posted by: No Light | June 30, 2011 at 09:30 AM
thats what he gets for opening the door for a goy to sleep w his daughter. he deserves life imprisonment for such a crime.
Posted by: HaRav HaGaon | June 30, 2011 at 09:34 AM
Shelo asani 2c2d
Posted by: No Light
that moniker is actually pretty funny-amazing that someone that could be clever enough to think of that could be such a dumb putz-someone mustve helped you.
Posted by: tooclose2detroit | June 30, 2011 at 09:47 AM
If you choose to live in a dangerous shitty neighborhood, you cannot expect people to get excited when they hear you got robbed.
Posted by: WoolSilkCotton
uhh-wherever they live turns into a shitty dangerous neighborhood-happening to my neighborhood-beautiful, full of wonderful frum families, with lots of great kids-but go one block over at the wrong time of day, and you better have a knife or mace to protect yourself from the worthless scum-and guess what race the criminals are?-if you said Asian-you are as fucked in the head as the worthless toad that runs this site-anyhow, i believe you are an OB?-please keep up the holy work of aborting liberals!
Posted by: tooclose2detroit | June 30, 2011 at 09:51 AM
Harav HaGaon: There was a time, not all that long ago, where intermarriage between a Jew and an "Aryan" was punishable by several years in prison.
While an Albanian was probably not considered an "Aryan" under the Nuremberg Laws, are you sure you want to return to those days?
The punishment for being Jewish, intermarried and otherwise, was extralegal, even under prevailing German law, and was far more serious than that "legal" one for intermarriage.
Posted by: Morris the Katz | June 30, 2011 at 10:39 AM
If he's going to use ethnic slurs, he needs to get it right. Turks are not Arabs. Dumb drunk.
Posted by: get the slurs right | July 02, 2011 at 07:47 PM