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June 28, 2011

Brooklyn Hasid Charged With Felony Hate Crime Flees To Chabad House, Fights Cops

Alleged_bias_attack_townhome_6-25-11 A boozy Brooklyn hasid was hit with hate crime charges Sunday for pouring beer on a newlywed neighbor, calling her an "Arab terrorist" and pummeling her husband, police sources said. Following the seemingly unprovoked attack Saturday night in Mill Basin, Simchon Schwartz, 46, hid in a local synagogue and tried to fight off cops when they came to arrest him.

 

Brooklyn Hasid charged with felony hate crime after attacking 'f---ing Arabs' living next door
Rocco Parascandola, Kerry Burke and Bill Hutchinson • NEW YORK DAILY NEWS

Alleged_bias_attack_townhome_6-25-11 A boozy Brooklyn man was hit with hate crime charges Sunday for pouring beer on a newlywed neighbor, calling her an "Arab terrorist" and pummeling her husband, police sources said.

Following the seemingly unprovoked attack Saturday night in Mill Basin, Simchon Schwartz, 46, hid in a local synagogue and tried to fight off cops when they came to arrest him, sources said.

The Hasid even kicked out a window of a police cruiser as he sat inside, whining that "the cuffs are too tight," a source said.

"F---ing Arabs! F---ing terrorists!" Schwartz screamed when he grabbed his neighbor, Selda Turan, 27. He shoved the woman against her car and poured beer on her head, a police source said.

Turan's husband of 13 months, Mustafa Turan, rushed out of their house to protect his wife, but Schwartz punched him in the face, the source said.

Neighbors said the Turans moved into the heavily Jewish neighborhood about a month ago. They said the victims were from Turkey; it wasn't clear if they were Muslim.

Schwartz was arraigned in Brooklyn Criminal Court on charges of felony assault and felony criminal mischief, both as hate crimes. He was also charged with resisting arrest, obstructing cops, menacing and harassment. He could get up to 15 years in prison if convicted.

"They arrested the wrong person," Schwartz's attorney, Lance Lazzaro, said Monday night.

He said his client was attacked by Mustafa Turan, 32, after Selda Turan complained about Schwartz's children being noisy. He said Mustafa Turan called Schwartz a "dirty Jew" and hit him.

Cops said they found no physical evidence supporting Schwartz's counterclaim, while Mustafa Turan needed three stitches to close a gash on his nose. The ordeal erupted at 7 p.m. Saturday when Schwartz began harassing Selda Turan on their E. 70th St. block, a criminal complaint charges. Schwartz opened a can of beer and poured it on Selda Turan, grabbed her by the the arm, pushed her into the side of her car and called her an "Arab terrorist," the complaint said.

Selda Turan was left with scratches and bruises. Schwartz was released without bail.

A judge rejected a prosecution request to hold Schwartz on $60,000 bail, but granted the Turans an order of protection barring him from contacting them.

The Turkish couple live in a townhouse that shares a common wall with Schwartz's home.

Cops said that following the fisticuffs, Schwartz scratched the Turans' car with a key.

Once Schwartz, a car dealer, bolted from the scene, the Turans called 911. Schwartz's son led cops to a Chabad House on nearby E. 69th St., where they found the suspect. Cops smelled alcohol on his breath, a source said.

Schwartz struggled with cops as they dragged him out of the synagogue in handcuffs. They drove him to his house, where his neighbors identified him as the culprit. As Schwartz threw a tantrum in the police car, his wife made a veiled threat to the victims, sources said.

"This is a majority Jewish neighborhood. We're going to get you back," Esther Schwartz told the Turans, the sources said.

While Schwartz was in jail over the weekend, his wife circulated a petition demanding the Turans' landlord evict them, neighbors said. About 20 neighbors signed it, but the Turans' landlords, Rusden and Saadet Dolan, refused.

"That's their opinion," Rusden Dolan told the Daily News.

With Amir Khan and Oren Yaniv.

[Hat Tip: Yochanan Lavi.]

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lol

he is guilty no matter what by his actions with th police officer. even if what he says is true he would still be guilty of the charges that happened during and after his arrest.

Do I see a big kovod his way. a rally, who knows maybe even a statue

At least it was beer and not gasoline he poured on the victim...

Jackass..... nothing more to say....he is
a total Jewish jackass.

Unfortunately, the victims live next door to this nut who is out of custody. His wife is crazy and is threatening the victims and at least 20 neighbors are idiots, too.

the guy is screwed once they got an order of protection the next door neighbor can make his live hell

all the have to do is say he said something to them and he will be arrested even if was out of town when they claimed he said something to them

seymour,you're crazy.

I never knew in Chabad they they are sadists & grab women use the F word throw tantrems & get drunk?
Is that standard in Chabad?
Or is this some newcommer?

Possibly the media is lying or telling half truth?
we have heard that before & no bail screams out loud.

i know him- he is not a bad guy at all! trying to make sense of this story...

regardless of the specifics, there needs to be some quick community condemnations. there are plenty of jews and arabs in fairly close proximity in brooklyn who have gotten along just fine till now and it would be tragic if this led to a cycle of violence. may responsible heads prevail..

Nebech, we are in galus!
Hashem, please send us Moshiach now so that this yungerman does not have to go to some goy prison!

Yes, we are in golus... the Arabs and the Turkish people are NOT in golus - WE are in golus. How dare a Jew do something like this in AMERICA!!!

It wasn't all that long ago that people did things like this to Jews (even in America).

Obviously this man is not a "Hasid" although he might hang out with Chabadniks.

he is Israeli. and btw i know people who do business with him- he is a very honest and trustworthy person. cant make sense of this story, there must be more to it- it doesnt 'fit the bill'

That’s my neighborhood, represent!!!!! and its not Mill Basin, its Georgetown. I like the fact that he ran to the meshiachist chabad house and not the normal one, which is literally two streets away.

The guy (Schwartz) is wrong !

Turkish people are not Arabs!

Ahhh...brings back memories of eating hot brisket with my grandparents at the Mill Basin "Kosher" Deli...looking at the tacky Erte paintings...

i know him- he is not a bad guy at all! trying to make sense of this story...

Posted by: David Kirzner | June 28, 2011 at 09:05 AM

he was drunk that might explain it

seymour,you're crazy.

Posted by: effie | June 28, 2011 at 08:38 AM

why

that is the law ask any lawyer or policeman.
all that needs to be done is the person who holds that paper to make a claim and it triggers an automatic arrest arrest.

That is the law

Wow... a Jewish man made "harmful" comments to his neighbour (who allegedly made harmful comments first). That and the occasional welfare cheat.
Please compare that with minority neighborhoods that are inundated with murder, rape, violence, prostitution and drug dealings. People smoking crack and skipping school. Fighting over silly things like "shoes".
Its interesting to note that Jewish neighborhoods, statistically, ALMOST ALWAYS have less crime than others.
The fact that you guys have to latch on to this isolated incident is pathetic

Sure enough, the usual excuses and denials

"He can't have done that."
"I know him. He's a wonderful guy."
"The media are lying to us because they're anti-Semites."
"The victim must have done something to cause the attack."
"He can't be a REAL Chassid. He's probably not even Jewish."
"Nebech, his life is ruined because of those nasty towel-heads."
"No True Scotsman eats his porridge with sugar."

ALWAYS have less crime than others.
The fact that you guys have to latch on to this isolated incident is pathetic

Posted by: david friedlander | June 28, 2011 at 12:54 PM

the frum do not report crimes committed by frum'
so statistics will never revel the truth

In all fairness it should be stated that this "Chabad house" is not recognized as an official Chabad house by Merkos, the umbrella organization responsible for Chabad worlwide. This can be verified by a quick check on Chabad.org.

Is is also not clear to me from this article if this guy is Chabad, or just ran there looking to hide. Can someone who knows him please clarify.

""ALWAYS have less crime than others.
The fact that you guys have to latch on to "this isolated incident is pathetic

Posted by: david friedlander | June 28, 2011 at 12:54 PM

the frum do not report crimes committed by frum'
so statistics will never revel the truth

Posted by: seymour | June 28, 2011 at 01:01 PM""

So in other words because its not reported there is a big possibility that the frum community IS inundated with murder, rape, violence, prostitution and drug dealings. People smoking crack and skipping school. Fighting over silly things like "shoes? YES or NO?

I never said that

i just said one cannot use the stats alone.

when i was young there was a group of frum boys who robed houses every shobboa and when people had simchas the police know it

but nothing was done because nobody wanted to report them or be a witness

Posted by: Deremes | June 28, 2011 at 01:38 PM

Definitely rape.

Seymour is jumping around when pushed against the wall,that's good.
And OMG is positive that its rape.
Is it as i asked that its "inundated" ?

Mkblitz- the guy is not chabad. You are right about the "chabad house"

Jewish -

Thank you.

Seymour is jumping around when pushed against the wall,that's good.
And OMG is positive that its rape.
Is it as i asked that its "inundated" ?

Posted by: Deremes | June 28, 2011 at 01:57 PM

I am not jumping you put words in my mouth and I just saids that is not what I said

but a frum person always has a problem within then truth

Posted by: anuran | June 28, 2011 at 12:57 PM

Sure enough, the usual excuses and denials

"He can't have done that."
"I know him. He's a wonderful guy.
"He can't be a REAL Chassid. He's probably not even Jewish."
@anuran...You're reading things out of context and putting words in people's mouths here. I didn't see anybody say "he couldn't have done that" and "I know him, he's a wonderful guy". Someone wrote that he knows him (David Kirzner wrote: "i know him- he is not a bad guy at all! trying to make sense of this story...") To me that doesn't look as if Mr Kirzner is saying he's "wonderful" and declaring Schwart'z innocence, but just expressing a common reaction of surprise that he's capable of doing something like that. It's normal after a crime is committed to hear neighbors, friends and coworkers express surprise. It doesn't mean they are defending the alleged perpetrators. Also, I have to be melamed zchus of "Gevezener Chusid"--as his name indicated, he's someone who's left Chassidism and is willing to criticize bad acts within chassidic circles, but I take his comment "Obviously this man is not a "Hasid" ", not as a defense of the man's alleged crime, but as a condemnation of such acts--and saying that such people literally don't deserve to be called hasidim, i.e., people who do acts of hesed--loving kindness.

@Seymour- perhaps you're missing something Deremes is trying to do... he's trying to imply that you consider hassidic communities to be rife with the maladies he considers typical in communities of color. In other words: he's a racist P.O.S.

Whenever somebody is charged with a crime let the facts come out in the legal process. Often there is a "he said/she said" situation. Sometimes the cops arrest the guy who did not have an injury presuming the injured party is not the aggressor. Let's have a little humility here and refrain from judgment based upon of all things the holy writ of a newspaper article

Mikey, look at what Deremes, the aptly-named Loshonhora, Kirzner, mkblitz, David and to some extent GC are saying. It's exactly that song.

that is the law ask any lawyer or policeman.

Okay, I did. They said, you're crazy. lolQ

The police, attys, and courts aren't naive. If they think a complaining witness is not telling the truth, they will not arrest/charge the party. There are other things they can do, but it's boring.

The police, attys, and courts aren't naive. If they think a complaining witness is not telling the truth, they will not arrest/charge the party. There are other things they can do, but it's boring.

Posted by: effie | June 28, 2011 at 07:35 PM

not if they have or where issued an order of protection
it is an automatic arrest

This chasid mixed vodka with his Mountain Dew.

Posted by: anuran | June 28, 2011 at 06:40 PM @anuran--


Mikey, look at what Deremes, the aptly-named Loshonhora, Kirzner, mkblitz, David and to some extent GC are saying. It's exactly that song.


I see that Kirzner is expressing a normal human reaction of astonishment and shock that someone he knows personally is accused of doing a terrible crime--and musing that there must be more to it--(he may be right about that or he may be wrong) but it's a normal human reaction--just like when you turn on the 11 o'clock news and the neighbors are interviewed about the guy who strangled his wife--they always say "He always seemed like such a nice guy," and express their disbelief. Schwartz may very well be a million percent guilty of what he's accused of, but most people who have personal dealings with someone who in their experience not to be violent or to have a big temper are skeptical when their friend/acquaintance is accused of violence and often express surprise and doubt. MKBlitz, from what I can see, is trying to distinguish between the various nutty factions of Chabad and say that the guy belonged to a nuttier faction. Still--not denying or excusing anything per se from what I can see--just trying to say--"Well, it was those other nuts." There is a lot of denialism in the frum community, and denialism about denialism (I'm sure you'll accuse me of the latter), but with the exception of "deremes"'s comment, I didn't get from most of the people here that they were minimizing, excusing, or denying that the event happened more or less as the article described, but I perceived Kirzner doing the equivalent of scratching his head and saying--"Wow, how could it be? That guy?" and another guy outright denouncing the purported crime and saying he isn't worthy of being called a chosid if he acts like a beheima. That's my take, but the commenters can speak for themselves about what they meant.

NOBODY IN THIS WORLD WOULD THINK OF HIDING IN A SYNAGOGUE FOR SAFETY EXCEPT A JEWISH PERSON. 2 NEIGHBORS WITH COMMON WALKWAY DO NOT JUST GET UP AND AND INSULT ATTACK EACH OTHER, IT GET BUILT UP. A SMALL QUARREL ENDED IN THE NEWSPAPERS. PEOPLE HAVE NO OTHER NEWS TO REPORT. THEIR IS NO CASE OR GUILT ON SIMCHON SCHWARTZ AND SHOULD BE DROPPED

Check out today's New York Daily News. Schwartz's daughter, Maza, sure looks Haredi in her halter dress with her boobs hanging out. Nebech! Not only that, but she's dating an Albanian Muslim, according to the story.

Schwartz obviously isn't Haredi, but he sure is a drunken thug. And I believe his daughter as much as I believe her boobs are real.

The average observant jew, forget about charedi is not walking around at 7pm with a beer in his hands. its still shabbos. but feel free to attack chasidim. this is just like last week's child pornographer who was married to a goyah but became blog-worthy because he had the name moshe. shmarya, come on; i'm sure there is better "i hate chareidi " material out there.

Please.

Gerstein was the ba'al koreh at his shul in MA and went to a day school.

His wife is apparently Jewish (either converted or born), and Gerstein davened at Lincoln Square.

And this guy, moron, is clearly a BT Chabadnik.

first, the title "Hasid Charged" is misleading info, what exactly makes him a Hasid. same as every bearded man arrested the headline reads "Rabbi Charged", What a shame to the reporters.

second,
The daughter is dating a Muslim for two years. the boyfriend Amer Nicocevic, an Albanian, said Simchon Schwartz never hassled him about being Muslim. "He opened the door and welcomed me in," Nicocevic said.

[QUOTE=Bassy the Haredi Slaye]
The guy (Schwartz) is wrong !
Turkish people are not Arabs![/QUOTE]

does that mean if they would be Muslim it would be ok? i hope you did not mean that

How do you know he's a BT Chabadnik, Shmarya? Was his picture shown? All we really know about the guy is his name is Schwartz, he claims to be Jewish, he hid out in a Chabad synagogue, and his daughter has a nice pair, although obviously fake.

The NY Daily News has a picture of a masked "mystery man" seated on a motorcycle (can't tell what make). It appears he's in his 40's, best as I can tell.

I could be wrong, but most BT Chabadniks aren't bikers, even though most Harley guys have beards. "Ride to Live, Live to Ride" ain't part of the Talmud.

I could be wrong, but most BT Chabadniks aren't bikers, even though most Harley guys have beards. "Ride to Live, Live to Ride" ain't part of the Talmud.

Posted by: Morris the Katz | June 29, 2011 at 11:00 AM

Who cares if most are not?

You're obviously not very familiar with BTs.

first, the title "Hasid Charged" is misleading info, what exactly makes him a Hasid. same as every bearded man arrested the headline reads "Rabbi Charged", What a shame to the reporters.

Perhaps it is his affiliation with Chabad and the Chabad rabbi who defends him?

THEIR IS NO CASE OR GUILT ON SIMCHON SCHWARTZ AND SHOULD BE DROPPED

Posted by: NATAS MESS | June 29, 2011 at 05:34 AM

you did not read the story

if he hit the guy there is a case just because you do want to believe a frum person should be arrested that is you own disillusion

Sometimes the cops arrest the guy who did not have an injury presuming the injured party is not the aggressor. Let's have a little humility here and refrain from judgment based upon of all things the holy writ of a newspaper article

Posted by: mordecai | June 28, 2011 at 05:41 PM
anuran

yep

sadly i know this from experience

He kicked out the window of a police car.

1. Drunk and Disorderly
2. Interference with Governmental Administration.
3. Destruction of Police Property.
4. Resisting Arrest (the story said it took several cops to subdue him, wonder what he looks like right now).
5. Simple Assault (against his neighbors). Not a "hate" crime.

He'll probably catch a break on the assault charges, and maybe resisting arrest. Resisting Governmental Administration is a BS charge. But destruction of police property is a fairly serious offence, so this guy will most likely find himself in Rikers for a spell.

Let's see if his hand skills are as strong handling Big Bad Bubba they were with his next-door neighbors.

[QUOTE] Perhaps it is his affiliation with Chabad and the Chabad rabbi who defends him?
Posted by: Shmarya | June 29, 2011 at 11:07 AM [/QUOTE]

well, can be. but not a good enough reason to be a chasid.
All kinds can associate with chabad, everyone is accepted (which is great). but still, it doesn't make you a chasid.

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