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May 10, 2011

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BenBliShem

Another viewpoint on the photoshopped Hillary controversy:

http://hasidismandlit.blogspot.com/2011/05/photoshopped-hilary-clinton-brouhaha.html

Yechiel

Deremes:
'They would HAVE'; not 'they would OF'.
חכמים הזהרו בדבריכם...

corn popper

Yoel,
agreed.

Barry

++gentiles of the world don't really want to mix with Jews++

Deremese, Have you already forgotten whom Hillary's daughter married?

++many people in the non-Jewish world understands and respects...++

In the 18th century London, people used to go to Bethlam Royal Hospital to stare at the lunatics. For a penny one could peer into their cells, view the freaks of the "show of Bethlehem" and laugh at their antics. Entry was free on the first Tuesday of the month. In 1814 alone, there were 96,000 such visits.

By the mid 19th century this practice stopped when people realised it was wrong to mock the afflicted. That does not mean that the inmates in the lunatic asylum suddenly became respected.

The fact that people do not generally mock the Ultra orthodox does not mean that they are respected. Who can respect anyone who believes that the world in less then 6000 years old, or that Noah's flood actually happened, or that it is right to put people to death for making a fire on the Sabbath or for adultery? It is that most people are polite enough to understand that one should not mock the afflicted.

Yoel Mechanic

Colberts sketch was wonderful and delightful. He was making gentle fun of silly people, and the silly things it leads too. Key point is that these silly people are PEOPLE. He did not dehumanize them. Some good might even come of this if it causes the newspaper clippers to re-think their philosophy. I think good will come of this.

Contrast this to the dehumanizing and rancid mockery often seen on this blog. That sort of banal banter will only alienate the target.

For the frum world, this comedy is good news. First they are laughing at us, but eventually we can laugh together.

Secondly, this photoshopping Hillary is mild stuff, and hardly any harm to her done. Nor does this degrade women, but rather is a symptom of a pre-existing problem (NOT a cause) Newspapers like the NY Times have caused far greater harm in recent years with mislabeled pictures of mob scenes in Israel intended to make it look like Israeli police were beating Arabs when in fact is was an Arab mob beating an innocent and the police chasing the violent one away. Or that photoshopped picture fraudulently exaggerating the bombing attack of Israel on Lebanon. These were either gross incompetence indicating prejudice or more likely malicious intent. Real damage was done. Compared to these, this Yiddish newspaper is mild stuff.

And Colbert is handling it all excellently. And the audience is reacting with good natured humor too. It is not mean spirited. I see no harm here.

OMG

Posted by: JEW | May 10, 2011 at 11:32 PM

The problem is not with us, we know that we all make mistakes, but in your mind, you and your ilk think that your Rabbis are infallible, well this goes to show that even your Rabbis are human.

JEW

YOU ALL STUPID SELF HATING JEWS!!!!!!!!! YOU ARE ALLWAYS CORRECT!!! YOU NEVER MAKE MISTAKES!!! YOU ARE FULL OF MANORS AND ETICS!!! YAAAAAA......... YOUR ARE JUST THE MR PERFECT......

ali

For all you jew-haters out there, consider Hugh Hefner your Rabbi. Hes jewish too. Thats where the Reform community leads to.

Ah, if only Reform Judaism really led to the Playboy Mansion...

I happen to think Hefner's an intelligent man with bright ideas, & I am glad he's around making our world a better place.

He won legal battles over freedom of the press. He champions non censure-ship of cinema. No woman featured in his magazine ever complained of being coerced or pressured into it. Quite a few had highly successful careers after they posed.

A generation of boys & men who bought Playboy for the pictures were exposed to articles written by the finest authors of our day. I have no problem with Playboy or with Hefner.

The nudes in Playboy represent an ideal of beautiful women. Artists have painted nude women for centuries. The vast majority of people of both sexes across all cultures view the beautiful representation of women as an homage to them.

You find the female form distracts you from infusing your life with piousness? You, you, you. It's all about you? Guess what? NO IT ISN'T. Get over yourself.

maven

All I can say is that photoshop is better than when I was in yeshiva, in those days they clipped out every picture of a woman (including elderly ones) and it was impossible to read the articles on the other side of the page. So thank you to technology.
Did their graphics guy learn to do this at Touro, or was he an old Stalinist (they were good at removing people from pics as well)? Just wondering.

WoolSilkCotton

OMG, I feel the same way.

For the time being, I am trying to reach out to some of the people here on FM who are trying desperately to defend the indefensible. I feel the pain and cognitive dissonance that Deremes must feel. Perhaps reaching some common ground may promote healing.

Alex is just a silly Baal Tshuvah hack, probably at Hadar Hatorah in Crown Heights (been there, done that in the 1970's), and so I don't take his junk too seriously. Having once been like him, I can understand his current mindset, and so I can't bring myself to be too hard on him.

As we've learned from recent events, even a small action can have big consequences. I am hoping that an effort at peace, even among a few anonymous faceless bloggers, will be a good thing.

OMG

Posted by: WoolSilkCotton | May 10, 2011 at 08:09 PM

Positively, I agree with your three points, but I do not think that even for one second that the leadership in the Charedi community will take a second look at their view of Torah. It will not happen. It is no different from the Taliban; I am not talking about their action but their extremism in unwilling to move with the time, no question that both groups need a reformation to change their trajectory.

WoolSilkCotton

Perhaps we can all agree on the following:

1. Your daily actions, even the routine ones, could end up having incredible repercussions. You could end up on every news program in the world, just for some routine task. Be careful and thoughtful about everything you do. The world may be watching!

2. The concept of tznius started off as a good idea, but some folks seem to have taken it too far. Not publishing any pictures of any women seems rather extreme. Maybe the religious world needs to rethink whether this is a bit much. Perhaps recent events can serve as a wakeup call.

3. Altering a photo containing women, especially a photo that is well known, should not be done unless you are honest to your audience about what you did.

Can I get an 'amen' from the congregation? Deremes, when you return in the morning, can we at least agree on these 3 points?

OMG

I know Abe Friedman believe or not he was my chavresa in the Satmar Yeshiva, he was always a decent human being. As for the publication of the doctored photo I am positive that he is ashamed of it, we all make mistakes, and with the fact that as people get older and they are now part of the leadership in the community they tend to get more conservative in their approach to religiosity, so I try to understand him.

jay

Neil Young is well appreciated in my home. However I find concerts are generally too expensive these days.

Alex

Acronym it is but the meaning of GFYS remains unchanged and the sewer from which it flows is undeniably fetid. Back to the cogent issue at hand, patrilineal descent does not a Jew make. Do tell us, oh ill-tempered one, about your mother and in-laws.

WoolSilkCotton

TooClose, even among doctors, very few are golfers. It's just too expensive a habit for me. Thank goodness I never started.

I like Neil Young, but I don"t think I'd bother to go to a show, unless it's really close by. The Meadowlands Arena in NJ is a traffic nightmare.

Alex, you know nothing about my family.
Deremes at least tries to be thought-provoking, but Alex, you are simply a fool.
BTW, GFYS is an acronym, not an anagram.

tooclose2detroit

no golfers, no neil young fans-i gotta find a new sandbox.

Alex

Hey WSC you are very talented. You can even curse anagrammatically. Regarding, "I am the same level of religiousness as my great-grandfather, my grandfather, my father, and my children." Please divulge the incidence of intermarriage and conversions of convenience. Was your great-grandfather also a foul-mouthed bully? Only your shrink knows for sure.

seymour

no

not the reform that I feel is closer to the real intent of the writers of the torah social justice. read tanach you will see many prophets say the same thing

Deremes

quitting for the night.

Deremes

seymour,

Why jumping back and forth.
You don't despise orthodox Jews. You despise the Jewish religion in general.

jay

Deremes, you're deluding yourself. Just because some Orthodox Jews create a new stringency that forbids publication of photos of women does NOT mean other Jews who don't accept that modern innovation have "no standards" Jews who are more "modern" then you are not ashamed of their Judaism. That's typical hassidishe shtuss.

BTW-- I am opposed entirely to intermarriage but I would point out that if the Gentiles wanted as much separation as you suggest, they wouldn't be so quick to marry Jews.

WoolSilkCotton

++gentiles of the world don't really want to mix with Jews++

The opposite is true. You obviously have no real life contact with nonJews.

++many people in the non-Jewish world understands and respects...++

Thousands of comments on every news website express ridicule and disdain for what the frumma did. Plenty of people are comparing the frumma to the Taliban. Nobody is expressing "understanding and respect" for what the frumma did in this incident. It is regarded as fanatical, insane, and a bit frightening in its implications.

Listen to Colbert's audience laughing. They are laughing at you.

seymour

But the gentiles of the world don't really want to mix with Jews. So they do respect more an orthodox Jew then a secular Jew.

Posted by: Deremes | May 10, 2011 at 04:47 PM

we also know their excuse is bullshit

seymour

Unlike self hating Jews who are ashamed of their Jewishness and thinks that by being and behaving like non-Jews they will be respected by the gentiles.
But the gentiles of the world don't really want to mix with Jews. So they do respect more an orthodox Jew then a secular Jew.

Posted by: Deremes | May 10, 2011 at 04:47 PM

ultra Orthodox is not Judaism it is a cult based on Judaism.

therefore we are not self hating Jews we just want the world to know that you and your kind are not Jewish and do not follow Jewish laws

Deremes

"I am the same level of religiousness as my great-grandfather, my grandfather, my father, and my children. I'd say we're doing just fine. If you don't like my family, you are welcome to GFYS.

Posted by: WoolSilkCotton | May 10, 2011 at 04:23 PM"


I doubt that's the case that you are at the same level Jewish as they were.

Also,wsc,please explain to us frumma:
what is it with you guys who despise orthodox Jews that whenever we get back at you and you cant face it,all of you are using foul language? were you raised this way?

Have you seen many frumma use the language you guys use?


tooclose2detroit

any golfers in this group?

Deremes

WSC,
The publisher of the newspaper explained it already.

Some might laugh at it but many people in the non-Jewish world understands and respects people who have standards.And in this case its an orthodox newspaper who set a standard not to put pictures of women.

Unlike self hating Jews who are ashamed of their Jewishness and thinks that by being and behaving like non-Jews they will be respected by the gentiles.
But the gentiles of the world don't really want to mix with Jews. So they do respect more an orthodox Jew then a secular Jew.

WoolSilkCotton

The frumma only want Constitutional freedoms that benefit them. If those same freedoms work against them, they declare the Constitution invalid, and they claim that it is because it's against the Torah.
The Torah is the official excuse for all crimes and stupidity.

jay

Funny how many of the Ortho hear are condemning bloggers who exercise their free speech, while defending the right of this newspaper to do so. The difference being: the newspaper is altering an historical document. But of course, that doesn't matter. After all, the picture of a 60ish woman who happens to be the secretary of state can only lead to depravity.

WoolSilkCotton

++At least their grandchildren will be Jewish. Alex | May 10, 2011 at 03:42 PM++

That is the argument of every frummer dimwit.

Your children and grandchildren will find everything about you and your perverted frumma lifestyle to be abhorrent, and they will convert to any other religion but yours. Your children are probably being 'examined' right now by their holy rosh yeshiva.

I am the same level of religiousness as my great-grandfather, my grandfather, my father, and my children. I'd say we're doing just fine. If you don't like my family, you are welcome to GFYS.

WoolSilkCotton

Deremes, no need to explain it to me. I under the frumma perfectly.

You need to send an e-mail containing what you said to the news media that I listed earlier.

tooclose2detroit

not one person here went to Neil Young?-darn!

critical minyan

i just spoke to a chasid in williamsburg about the whole issue.
He issued a complete denial. I quote, "in no way whatsoever, have I been attracted to hillary clinton, since Bill Clinton's first term. the world should know this."

jancsipista

deremes- i can see clearly no doubdt about it you are mentally disturbed for sure,i can say this i have met the enemy and the enemy is in us the frummies like deremes what a shame.

Deremes

"if they would have blocked her out there would be no issue
Posted by: seymour | May 10, 2011 at 03:43 PM"

Bull shit.
It would of been the same brouhaha. But its only an IF so its really irrelevant.

seymour

If a newspaper sets a standard not to put in pictures of women altogether that's their decision and don't buy that newspaper if you don't like it.

So he made a foolish mistake and altered the photo and he wasn't thinking that in this day and age you cant do anything without being scrutinized.

Posted by: Deremes | May 10, 2011 at 03:39 PM

again you are missing the point they brushed out the woman from avery important historical photo


if they would have blocked her out there would be no issue

Alex

WSC writes, "Corn Popper, Deremes, who gives a shit about how religious you are, or what you think about a group of anonymous bloggers." A foul-mouthed bully. At least their grandchildren will be Jewish. The only vestige your progeny will retain is your antisemitism.

Deremes

WSC,
Nobody is trying to convince anyone.
This whole meshegas is called:making an issue of a tissue.

If a newspaper sets a standard not reporting certain kind of news or gossip,that's their decision and don't buy that newspaper if you don't like it.
If a newspaper sets a standard not to put in pictures of women with hardly any clothing on, that's their decision and don't buy that newspaper if you don't like it.
If a newspaper sets a standard not to put in pictures of women altogether that's their decision and don't buy that newspaper if you don't like it.

So he made a foolish mistake and altered the photo and he wasn't thinking that in this day and age you cant do anything without being scrutinized.

seymour

++Tikvah | May 10, 2011 at 02:16 PM++

It looks like a wedding between a man and a pile of laundry.

Posted by: WoolSilkCotton | May 10, 2011 at 03:28 PM

please are you guys so naive or stupid.

this is a cheredie gay wedding

Dan O.

"Women are pure. When a man thinks about his own wife - it's pure; when he thinks of other woman it's impure for HIM."

Exactly, it's all about him - what's good for his thoughts, what good for his ends (i.e. injecting his wife with holiness - does she care?) That's what misogyny is. It doesn't have to be active hate. It's also cold indifference.

WoolSilkCotton

++Tikvah | May 10, 2011 at 02:16 PM++

It looks like a wedding between a man and a pile of laundry.

Sheldon Clare

As a Jewish-American, I am saddened and angry at what the Hassidic newspapers did in elminating Clinton's photo.
Ultra-Orthodox are living in the 15th century and causing women to be a lower class of humans.
Shemen zolt ir!!

WoolSilkCotton

Corn Popper, Deremes, who gives a shit about how religious you are, or what you think about a group of anonymous bloggers.

In the eyes of the entire USA, you proved yourselves to be complete a-holes. Millions of people right now are seeing the 'real you'.

Please contact CNN, NBC, ABC, CBS, Fox News, and Comedy Central, and explain yourselves to them. Maybe they will believe how holy and wonderful you are, and how you are the only true Jews.

You don't have to convince anyone here on FM. Now you have to convince the rest of the USA. Good luck!

seymour

corn popper

we are wasting each other time.

you belive that the Torah was written by god- furthermore you belive in halache moshe mesinia and that other rebbies where holy men that somehow knew what god wants.

However. most Jews do not belive that the torah was written by god and all the rest are build on that false foundation

seymour

For all you jew-haters out there, consider Hugh Hefner your Rabbi. Hes jewish too. Thats where the Reform community leads to.

Posted by: A true jew | May 10, 2011 at 03:05 PM

frumkeit leads to Allentown how many frum yiddin are there?

Deremes

jay,

Correct.
Forget for now the altered photo.
But is there anything wrong with a newspaper setting their standard what picture should or shouldn't be there?

corn popper

PS we do not care that we do not follow the schulcan orech since it is one person misinterpretation of the torah.

Posted by: seymour | May 10, 2011 at 03:01 PM

We're waiting to hear YOUR TRUTHFUL interpretation of the Torah.

corn popper

"The frummies follow the schulcan orech"

No. ALL observant Jews do. Apostates like you and your ilk don't.

Posted by: corn popper | May 10, 2011 at 02:50 PM

no the do not protecting a molester is not following the schulcan orech.

PS we do not care that we do not follow the schulcan orech since it is one person misinterpretation of the torah.

Get over it the majority of Jews do not think that rabbinical Judaism is real Judaism only a very very small percentage belive that

Posted by: seymour | May 10, 2011 at 03:01 PM

Correct. Those who protect molesters are going against the shulchan aruch. But to be observant you MUST follow the Shulchan Aruch.

Correct. The majority of Jews are ignoramuses. Most of them don't know better. They were misled by their know-nothing clergy. YOU SHOULD!

Deremes

ah-pee-chorus,

I also wrote:
" i believe that he didn't read the fine print on the photo.He shouldn't of put in the paper the entire picture."

awwwwwww they denied the readership the REAL truth.
And the REAL truth is that Hillary Clinton was present in that room. And taking her picture out, means that the readers wouldn't know the real truth how it transpired. This is DISHONESTY at its worst.

A true jew

For all you jew-haters out there, consider Hugh Hefner your Rabbi. Hes jewish too. Thats where the Reform community leads to.

seymour

"The frummies follow the schulcan orech"

No. ALL observant Jews do. Apostates like you and your ilk don't.

Posted by: corn popper | May 10, 2011 at 02:50 PM

no the do not protecting a molester is not following the schulcan orech.

PS we do not care that we do not follow the schulcan orech since it is one person misinterpretation of the torah.

Get over it the majority of Jews do not think that rabbinical Judaism is real Judaism only a very very small percentage belive that

jay

I have photos from the late 19th century of relatives in Eastern Europe. Some are photos from their yeshivas. Men and women are in pictures TOGETHER!!! Rabbis and Rebetzins are in pictures TOGETHER!!!

This absolute nonsense that ANY picture of a woman is inappropriate is a recent addition to the ever deepening spiral into extremism.

corn popper

"The frummies follow the schulcan orech"

No. ALL observant Jews do. Apostates like you and your ilk don't.

corn popper

The average Chasidic fellow is looking to inject his life with purity and holiness and as such he doesn't want to clutter his mind with any pictures of women. It's his prerogative. You don't like it too bad.


Posted by: corn popper

So you are implying that women are impure?!?!?! Seriously, they (including you) all need to join the sex addicts anonymous groups!

Posted by: Mindy | May 10, 2011 at 01:00 PM

Women are pure. When a man thinks about his own wife - it's pure; when he thinks of other woman it's impure for HIM.

ah-pee-chorus

Years ago the New York Times and the Wall .....So why is it so hard to understand that a newspaper that caters only to frum people that they shouldn't have any pictures of women all together?

Posted by: Deremes |

are you for real? the times and journal are serious papers which report THE NEWS with few pictures of any kind. so they would have never printed pictures of bikini girls for example, just to sell papers. the post and other tabloids cater to a different crowd, and have no problem including pictures of same for their entertainment or exploitative value.
however, the frum papers have a choice whether or not to print pictures altogether. and they may certainly make a decision not to print pix of women. but what they did here is DISHONEST. the reason they included the picture is that this was an important event and the picture represents a moment in time which shaped history on some level. the significance of a picture is that each viewer can see it on his own and mustnt rely on anothers description of how it looked. so to print it and then remove someone who played a big part in the events just because they are a female is to deny the reader the truth of what transpired. hopefully next time these backward ,misogynistic editors will at least decide not to run a picture that would require photoshopping.

A true jew

I dont understand the Reform community why they even consider themselves the spokesmen for the Jews. Even non-orthodox like Michael Savage and christians like Glenn Beck and many more say that the real jews are the black-hatted orthodox guys from Brooklyn who follow the Torah and the Shulchan Aruch. Without learning them you dont even know what it means to be a jew. Theres much more to it than going maybe once a year to synagogue (by car). All their ancestors abided by these laws and they think theyre smarter.

JEWS repent!!!!

Deremes

"The frummies follow the schulcan orech

and I do not see the point of this so you follow a book written by a person what does that prove?

Posted by: seymour May 10, 2011 at 02:12 PM"

That's my point.
You are NOT against the frummies/orthodox Jews. But you are against the Jewish religion in general.

Its nice to see your comments here.But you are on the wrong blog.
FM is not based against the Jewish religion but it is against those who are religious and orthodox.
Your comments would be most welcome on any of the kkk racist blogs

Tikvah

do the readers of Di Tzeitung or the editors ever look at wedding pictures and photograph a wedding but photoshop out the woman ?

how do they explain a wedding without woman?

Posted by: seymour | May 10, 2011 at 11:15 AM

Have you ever seen photos of a charedi wedding? http://www.collive.com/show_news.rtx?id=7772&alias=wedding-uzan-dahan

What women?

seymour

Your view of being Jewish is eating matzo balls on passover,driving to temple on Yom Kipur etc.
The frummies follow the schulcan orech and you follow your urges.
Yea,the frummie steal,lie,cheat we heard all about it.

Posted by: Deremes | May 10, 2011 at 01:57 PM

The frummies follow the schulcan orech

and I do not see the point of this so you follow a book written by a person what does that prove?

The frummies follow the schulcan orech and you follow your urges.
Yea,the frummie steal,lie,cheat we heard all about it.

yes you did because it is in the news and true

reb chaim

Die Zeitung is such a prosaic name for a newspaper - after all, the word Zeitung means newspaper in Yiddish. Here's an idea for a much more descriptive name: "Der Chnyok".

Deremes

"You and demetres do not get it, we are not against religious or frummes per say, just a sub group who at frankly lunatics and do things that have no basis in halachcha."Posted by: seymour | May 10, 2011 at 01:30 PM"

Not true.
You ARE against the Jewish religion.
Your views toward the Jewish religion is very obvious.Maybe because you were at one time religious,you still feel a bit guilty.
Your view of being Jewish is eating matzo balls on passover,driving to temple on Yom Kipur etc.
The frummies follow the schulcan orech and you follow your urges.
Yea,the frummie steal,lie,cheat we heard all about it.

seymour

Seymour,
You have so much hate in you, any semblance of objectivity towards frumma is certainly very well hidden.
The average Chasidic fellow is looking to inject his life with purity and holiness and as such he doesn't want to clutter his mind with any pictures of women. It's his prerogative. You don't like it too bad.

Posted by: corn popper | May 10, 2011 at 11:47 AM

why I am just asking how do they look at wedding picture and they take pictures of a weeding since they are the one on cannot look at pictures of woman.

You and demetres do not get it, we are not against religious or frummes per say, just a sub group who at frankly lunatics and do things that have no basis in halachcha.

The other big problem was not that they took out Hillary Clinton but that did not mention that she was there. If they would of just stated we removed two woman for tznuis reason this would not be an issue.

PS what these people did has nothing to do with being frum.

Yes I laugh when some of the same people who defend this action have no problem with a yeshiva stealing money

that is what we scream about and laugh about.

tooclose2detroit

So you are implying that women are impure?!?!?! Seriously, they (including you) all need to join the sex addicts anonymous groups!

Posted by: Mindy

hahaha.sex addicts anonymous.hahahaha.-uhh, Mindy-welcome to the world of men.

who knows

I for one look forward to the time when the haters of FM receive their just deserts.

Posted by: alex | May 10, 2011 at 09:28 AM

And who are you Alex? You certainly do sound like a hater.
As for poking fun on others the Frum community is the worst offender. They denigrade anyone who is not like them.

Mindy

The average Chasidic fellow is looking to inject his life with purity and holiness and as such he doesn't want to clutter his mind with any pictures of women. It's his prerogative. You don't like it too bad.


Posted by: corn popper

So you are implying that women are impure?!?!?! Seriously, they (including you) all need to join the sex addicts anonymous groups!

tooclose2detroit

corn poppa-all gays are junkies?-not sure what the connection to needles is.

Deremes

"Deremes, what's your take on the doctored picture?
Posted by: WoolSilkCotton | May 10, 2011 at 12:18 PM"

The owner/editor of the newspaper is a very honest person. He loves politics and in his paper he shows his pride of being an American.
I believe that he didn't read the fine print on the photo.He shouldn't of put in the paper the entire picture.

In this day and age you got to be very careful at every move because of the technology and everything goes viral in an instant.
Someone snaps a picture of someone picking his nose and puts it on YouTube and everyone has a comment about it.


Years ago the New York Times and the Wall Street Journal was way of a different paper then lets say the NY Post or the Daily News.
The NY Post and the Daily News had much more ads showing women with hardly any clothing and news that's pure gossip.
Where as The New York Times and the Wall Street Journal was more of a cleaner paper.Because they cater to a different clientele.

So why is it so hard to understand that a newspaper that caters only to frum people that they shouldn't have any pictures of women all together?

corn popper

Even if I was gay, how is that a problem for you?

Posted by: WoolSilkCotton
maybe he is afraid of the competition.

Posted by: tooclose2detroit | May 10, 2011 at 12:33 PM

You guys can share the needle AIDS infested crowd

corn popper

The Satmar lunatics are not obligated to explain anything to anyone, other than welfare fraud investigators.

Even if I was gay, how is that a problem for you?

Posted by: WoolSilkCotton | May 10, 2011 at 12:17 PM

WSC,
Great answer when you have none.

tooclose2detroit

Even if I was gay, how is that a problem for you?

Posted by: WoolSilkCotton
maybe he is afraid of the competition.

alex

WSC: Idiomatically challenged? Wouldn't want to wax too literate. Nope, it just wouldn't do. Must keep it low-brow and scatological for raging haters such as yourself.

ah-pee-chorus

WSC-

APC, you have just participated in what can be described as a metaphysical event.

One of the frumma trolls (alex) makes a typical frummer idiot spelling mistake, and it turns out to be correct, because it's a colloquialism based upon the 3rd meaning in the dictionary, from the Old French word.

This is truly an auspicious day!

SO TRUE!!

tooclose2detroit

I would but I do not know how to delete the woman from the video

seymour

that is really funny Seymour-but, although Neil sings in falsetto, he wants to BE with the cinnamon girl, and he NOT the cinnamon girl, so, it should get past my filters.-cmon-no one went??-he was in Detroit, but it was during sefira, damnit.

WoolSilkCotton

Deremes, what's your take on the doctored picture?

WoolSilkCotton

The Satmar lunatics are not obligated to explain anything to anyone, other than welfare fraud investigators.

Even if I was gay, how is that a problem for you?

corn popper

"...The average Chasidic fellow is looking to inject his life with purity and holiness and as such he doesn't want to clutter his mind with any pictures of women..."

By all means, tell that to the media. Especially the part about how frumma men are looking to inject women.

Posted by: WoolSilkCotton | May 10, 2011 at 11:59 AM

Why would the Satmar community feel obligated to explain anything to the media anymore than you are obligated to explain your fetishes to the media.

You must be gay - as you evidently have no desire to inject women

.

"i stand corrected."

what? just like that you admit you're wrong? I say nishtaneh haspelling!

Deremes

Here is another tidbit for a headline.On top of the page above the picture and article its written in bold:
"Ba-ebid Rashoim Rinah" translate: "With the loss of an evil person,there is happiness". I bet they meant Hillary Clinton.


I don't know whats the big deal here. Knowing the frumma you shouldn't be surprised at whatever they do.
The frumma have no class or manners.
The frumma are at the same evolutionary step as the monkeys.
The frumma smell like monkeys.
The frumma are part of the Taliban's.
The frumma degrade women.
The frumma men are lurking around all day for children to molest.
The frumma women are selling their bodies so their POS husband should sit in kollel.
The frumma live in expensive apartments by stealing from the government
The frumma drive to the supermarkets in the most expensive vehicles and pay with food stamps.
The frumma didn't make themselves look now as asses, they are a piece of ass.
The frumma think that they are above the law.
The frumma mentality goes that when they commit a crime its always someone else fault.
The frumma hate the government.
The frumma,we need to rid ourselves from them in due time.
The frumma,should be sent on an island.I cant recall the place where Hitler yms wanted to send all the Jews to a badly climate place.There the frumma should be shipped to.


Sorry folks i didn't have time to read the entire Protocols of the Elders of Zion.

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"How is it possible for a Jew to derive delight from the shame and discomfiture of another Jew ... I for one look forward to the time when the haters of FM receive their just deserts."

Regarding your hypocrisy, I can only say you're an asshole.

Regarding the substance of you criticism, it is more than fair for a member of a religion to critique another and even publicize his critique. Undoubtedly, you criticize Muslims for not publicly critiquing elements within their own community. At the same time, you try to mute Jewish anti-sexism critique. Double asshole.

WoolSilkCotton

"...The average Chasidic fellow is looking to inject his life with purity and holiness and as such he doesn't want to clutter his mind with any pictures of women..."

By all means, tell that to the media. Especially the part about how frumma men are looking to inject women.

WoolSilkCotton

++ah-pee-chorus | May 10, 2011 at 11:27 AM++

APC, you have just participated in what can be described as a metaphysical event.

One of the frumma trolls (alex) makes a typical frummer idiot spelling mistake, and it turns out to be correct, because it's a colloquialism based upon the 3rd meaning in the dictionary, from the Old French word.

This is truly an auspicious day!

corn popper

has anyone gone to any of the latest Neil Young shows, and if so, can you email me some recordings from cell phone camera?-thanks-go Tigers.

Posted by: tooclose2detroit | May 10, 2011 at 10:50 AM

Hey Bro, share the blow

corn popper

do the readers of Di Tzeitung or the editors ever look at wedding pictures and photograph a wedding but photoshop out the woman ?

how do they explain a wedding without woman?

Posted by: seymour | May 10, 2011 at 11:15 AM

Seymour,
You have so much hate in you, any semblance of objectivity towards frumma is certainly very well hidden.
The average Chasidic fellow is looking to inject his life with purity and holiness and as such he doesn't want to clutter his mind with any pictures of women. It's his prerogative. You don't like it too bad.

ah-pee-chorus

Jailbird -
i stand corrected. i always assumed it referred to dessert. instead it derives from 'deserve'.
in any case as a lover of FM i have no part in this 'just desert'.

Jailbird

I for one look forward to the time when the haters of FM receive their just deserts.(sic)

Posted by: alex |

me too, alex. fortunately i love FM so i wont be receiving the sahara. YOU on the other hand seem to be a hater of FM, so you might want to have a canteen filled and ready.

Posted by: ah-pee-chorus | May 10, 2011 at 10:54 AM

Smart ass, that's the way "just deserts" is spelled, you can look it up.

WoolSilkCotton

Alex, I'm loving every minute of this!

If you'd like to light your house on fire, then stand by and see how long it takes me to arrive, you may proceed.

The frumma stand by their doctoring of the photo. They only apologize 'if it offended anyone'. They never said that what they did was wrong. So why the negativity towards the rest of us? The frumma didn't do anything wrong; isn't that correct?

seymour

do the readers of Di Tzeitung or the editors ever look at wedding pictures and photograph a wedding but photoshop out the woman ?

how do they explain a wedding without woman?

Jailbird

http://www.zingmit.com/2011/05/rebbe-burich-mordchei-lebowitz-with.html

seymour

has anyone gone to any of the latest Neil Young shows, and if so, can you email me some recordings from cell phone camera?-thanks-go Tigers.

Posted by: tooclose2detroit | May 10, 2011 at 10:50 AM

I would but I do not know how to delete the woman from the video

sorry

seymour

taking a bike ride to williamsburg. if by any chance a run over a chassdeish woman I will just say, sorry I saw you but immediately block your image from my mind and you where not there anymore.

sorry

yidandahalf

The 'teenage Hasidic boy' is a real mess; he looks like an absolutely haunted insomniac. It must be from his nocturnal wanking.

ah-pee-chorus

I for one look forward to the time when the haters of FM receive their just deserts.(sic)

Posted by: alex |


me too, alex. fortunately i love FM so i wont be receiving the sahara. YOU on the other hand seem to be a hater of FM, so you might want to have a canteen filled and ready.

tooclose2detroit

has anyone gone to any of the latest Neil Young shows, and if so, can you email me some recordings from cell phone camera?-thanks-go Tigers.

alex

To WSC: You call this a mess? I see it as a flare-up over nothing which was then fanned into a conflagration. And by the way, thanks for not making us wait too long. Your comments as well as those of others on this site are exactly the same as every garden variety anti-semite and a racist. Although you probably don't see it that way, you are betrayed by the delight and vehemence of your comments. If your hareidi neighbor's house was on fire would you just stand there and applaud? Would laugh at some vandal who slashed the fire hoses? Judging from your comments I would have to say, Yes.

Rochel

The Young Turks show:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jb2OLxERpes

OMG

Posted by: WoolSilkCotton | May 10, 2011 at 08:54 AM
Good article, thank you for the link.

soso

Yeah for Colbert on this one.

I love the bit about "suggestive empty spaces"

Izzy

Brilliant. Colbert's piece is the best coverage of the controversy that I have seen yet.

WoolSilkCotton

++Gevezenr Chusid | May 10, 2011 at 09:34 AM++

The entire USA, and much of the world, is now ridiculing them.

The world can now see how insane and repugnant the frumma are.

It's no longer our little secret here on FM.

Wait until the media finds out about Der Voch, and the Brooklyn Modesty Committee.

I do hope Shmarya sends those articles to the NY Daily News.

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