Hasidic Paper Removes Hillary Clinton From Osama Picture
Di Tzitung cuts Hillary Clinton out of the iconic picture of government leaders watching the Bin Laden hit.
Di Tzitung's photoshopped version of the picture:
The unaltered picture:
Der Tzitung's photoshopped picture with my annotations showing where Hillary Clinton was actually sitting:
Update 10:43 pm CST – FGBA notes that the original picture was posted by the White House with the following caption and disclaimer (emphasis added):
President Barack Obama and Vice President Joe Biden, along with members of the national security team, receive an update on the mission against Osama bin Laden in the Situation Room of the White House, May 1, 2011. Seated, from left, are: Brigadier General Marshall B. “Brad” Webb, Assistant Commanding General, Joint Special Operations Command; Deputy National Security Advisor Denis McDonough; Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton; and Secretary of Defense Robert Gates. Standing, from left, are: Admiral Mike Mullen, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff; National Security Advisor Tom Donilon; Chief of Staff Bill Daley; Tony Binken, National Security Advisor to the Vice President; Audrey Tomason Director for Counterterrorism; John Brennan, Assistant to the President for Homeland Security and Counterterrorism; and Director of National Intelligence James Clapper. Please note: a classified document seen in this photograph has been obscured. (Official White House Photo by Pete Souza)
This official White House photograph is being made available only for publication by news organizations and/or for personal use printing by the subject(s) of the photograph. The photograph may not be manipulated in any way and may not be used in commercial or political materials, advertisements, emails, products, promotions that in any way suggests approval or endorsement of the President, the First Family, or the White House.
[Hat Tip: Critical Minyan.]
Wonder if the paper would edit out women from pictures taken at Buchenwald. Or Anne Frank's refuge.
Posted by: Christian | May 09, 2011 at 01:43 PM
Another thought....how did they deal with Golda Meir?
Posted by: Christian | May 09, 2011 at 01:45 PM
Just another freak religion doing what they do best...oppressing.
Posted by: Christ is King | May 09, 2011 at 01:56 PM
Pick up next weeks copy. Hotties with hooters. It's all marketing, Now i see the Rabbis point of view.
Posted by: gambino | May 09, 2011 at 02:39 PM
They could also just paint mustaches on women's faces. A lot easier to do. Especially with Photoshop.
Posted by: tripleX | May 09, 2011 at 02:46 PM
It's easy to spend our time poking fun and laughing at others of whom we do not understand. I recommend Daniel Goleman's book on "Cultural Intelligence". Tolerance is the new "in" thing these days and may prove beneficial. People who spend their time blogging negative things about other people who pose no threat to them except for making them see a different perspective on the world in which they were raised should wonder if their time is valuable at all. Time spend making fun of other people, (which they are only doing because they lack the desire to go out and learn about another culture and understand it) could have been spent either curing cancer or working making actual money that could go to support worthy causes such as cancer research. I am not as sure that the most intelligent people in the world tend to use their time to create ignorant and negative statements as much as those who are less intelligent. If a reader does not understand this complicated response I refer to Dr. Suess books and Hooked on Phonics to better their mastery of the English language.
Posted by: A thinking member of the human race | May 09, 2011 at 02:58 PM
I am an Orthodox Jew, and I have seen publications similar to this newspaper where they have interviews with various people, and they always have a picture of each man, and if they have a picture at all for the women, it's always of their empty office or something. I think it's ridiculous, but I guess they have the right not to print pictures of women if they don't want to. But if that's their policy, they shouldn't have printed this picture at all. It's misleading, and illegal.
Posted by: Jen | May 09, 2011 at 03:28 PM
What a bunch of dicks you are !!, photo shopping women out of pictures, to protect their modesty. Are you so scared of women in power you use this crap excuse to justify your actions. Do you feel so threatened you do this. The world is laughing at you. Your pathetic religion is just as bad as the muslims. Maybe Hitler did actually have it right after all.
Posted by: Robynne Hartshorne | May 09, 2011 at 03:35 PM
Photoshop is my best friend :-) btw, they did a lousy job editing/deleting Hillary and Audrey Tomason from the original photo. lol
Posted by: Kofla Olivieri | May 09, 2011 at 03:50 PM
How dare you people this is the year 2011, you have no respect for women. What do you think? That we have no brains other than to have children and serve as mades? I am sorry to say that being a man does not guarantee anything other than having your brains in another place other then your head if you know what I mean !!!!!
Posted by: Sonia | May 09, 2011 at 03:51 PM
די צייטונג is pronounced "di tzeitung", which is an austrian/bavarian version of the proper german "Der Zeitung" which just means "the newspaper". Learn German well and you'll pick up 90% of yiddish. Tragic but true.
This is as big a chilul hashem as anything I've seen. It's becoming less and less of a wonder these days that the ווילנער גאון put the בעל שם טוב's misguided followers into חרם all those years ago.
For those that have no jewish history (which is many): a leading Rabbi of Lithuania, Elijah of Vilna (commonly known as the Vilna Gaon, which means the Genius of Lithuania, or 'Gra' for short), attempted to excommunicate followers of the chasidic sect -- back in the late 1700s, where it came from in Europe. The Gra's teachings are today the basis of what many would call "modern" orthodox jewry.
Please don't blame us for Chassidus - in return, we won't blame you for Evangelical Pentecostals or Militant Islam. Deal?
Posted by: Expat | May 09, 2011 at 04:09 PM
I'm not familiar with the doctrine of omitting women's pictures out of concern for avoiding sexual arousal. But how can anyone consider a picture of HILLARY CLINTON potential sexually arousing? That's absurd on its face. In fact, anyone wishing to avoid sexual arousal would do well to post a picture of Hillary in their bedroom. Sexual arousal would disappear.
Posted by: timmy | May 09, 2011 at 04:13 PM
To say that Jews and Muslims treat women the same way is just silly. I agree that removing women from a picture is not exactly exemplary of 21st century behavior, but i when was the last time you heard of a Jewish woman being stoned for adultery or splashed with acid for trying to receive an education?
The women being removed from pictures is stupid, and, believe me, as a Jew I am embarrassed that some of us still follow that tradition, but A. that would be very few of us, and B. if you're gonna compare the sexism of religious fringes, the Jews aren't really worse than just about any other religion, and far better than a couple I could think of.
It's amazing, so many posts here are just antisemitic vents. Well, hey, clearly Jews are religious zealots who have no place in our society. Too bad someone forgot to tell Einstein about that, or Spinoza, or Chagall. Or Carl Sagan. Or Christopher Hitchens. Or Woody Allen. Or Steven Speilberg. I could keep going for quite a while, but I'm sure you get the point.
Posted by: Misha | May 09, 2011 at 04:14 PM
I thought Israeli people were smarter than this.
And I know they are. But this newspaper obviously misses it.
The same people that photoshopped this out were BORN OF WOMEN.
Hello......
Are the lights on?
Posted by: Mike Burke | May 09, 2011 at 04:40 PM
First off I have no idea who even gave it a thought that in ANY WAT Hillary Clinton is, has been, ever accused of being "sexually suggestive", there for they should have left her in with the guys... The other woman, Sure, But Hillary, Um.. NO...Not even when she was in the pictures of the Watergate trials was she "sexually Suggestive".. Sorry Bill, But you knew it.remember Monica? :)
Posted by: MJCLEMMER | May 09, 2011 at 05:13 PM
This is way beyond my pay grade. But try the works of N.T. Wright and give Yeshua another chance!
Posted by: Billy Bean | May 09, 2011 at 05:45 PM
Sandra:
Every Orthodox Jew is a fanatic and irrational.
We thank God every day for the food He gives us, while He starves to death 10,000 innocent children worldwide every day. He kills 230,000 Haitians in an instant, creating 30,000 orphans, and we go to shul and praise His goodness. He creates lions and lambs, gives the prey a nervous system so it will experience the full terror of the chase and the pain of being ripped to shreds, yet we call that "good," for everything God does is supposedly good.
In other words, ALL Orthodox Jews are insane fanatics.
Posted by: Mendy | May 09, 2011 at 05:47 PM
When I learned of this horrific offense yet by another so called legitimate international media group/blogger I just screamed OH WILL YOU MEN IN EVERY COUNTRY LEARN HOW TO KEEP YOUR PENIS IN YOUR PANTS WHEN YOU SEE ANY TYPE OF WOMAN --- INCLUDING THE WOMEN THAT WANT TO GO NUDE! I am so damn tired of men anywhere thinking it's the woman's fault for a man's disturbing mental behavior they have with their untrained, untamed, misbehaving penis! ENOUGH ALREADY --- SO CALLED WANNABE MEN if you can't find a way to keep your penis in your pants on demand when you view a woman either in print or in person then do us all a favor and cut off your problematic penis ON DEMAND instead of removing a woman's image from print. At the very least a man's cut off penis will eliminate woman from worrying about rape, sex slavery, pedophilia, incest, marital sexual abuse and of course woman don't have to worry about men in newsroom trying hard not to jerk off their penis if they print a woman's image! You men are disgusting creatures when it comes to your penis! I know I have been looking for a refund for suffering undo labor pains due to unnecessary penis mgt ---- So did Hillary Clinton! REFUND PLEASE!
Posted by: Pamela Lawrence | May 09, 2011 at 06:11 PM
i think this website is rediculous and anyone involved is definately going to burn in hell...
Posted by: nonove urbizniss | May 09, 2011 at 06:27 PM
When did this chumra start? And if it’s such an issue then why don’t they just stop showing pictures of any humans at all? That would make more sense as it would also be a chumra agaisnt avodah zarah (especially when it comes to people publishing images of the Lubavitcher rebbe).
Posted by: Bubba Metzia | May 09, 2011 at 06:47 PM
These stupid jews are not better then their brethen Muslim brothers.
These 2 Religions cause all the trouble in the world.
Posted by: M Jansen | May 09, 2011 at 06:51 PM
Dear Pamela Lawrence:
I don't think you should be so quick to blame men or their penises. Male sexual urges were evolved by nature over millions of years, and without them, none of us would be here.
The challenge for men is to rein in and control the natural urges in order to live in what is now a more civilized society. Many men have trouble doing this, since it goes against what nature has evolved.
Some societies have placed on women part of the burden of reining in men's natural impulses--e.g., by asking/requiring them to conceal parts of their bodies. Many women rightly chafe at having restrictions placed on their freedom of action merely because of men's evolved natural weaknesses.
Posted by: Mendy | May 09, 2011 at 07:02 PM
If this paper feels obliged to not print images of women, then they MUST NOT PRINT ANY IMAGES WHICH CONTAIN WOMEN. any such rule, no matter how avidly followed by any jewish (or christian, or even islamic) group, must be superceded by other rules, such as, oh, say, this one: You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor. You dont need to be a rabbi to be able to interpret this rule as it applies here. Im ashamed that any jewish group would resort to gestapo/stalinist tactics, regardless of the motive. shame on them all!
Posted by: Michael Elias Rosenbaum | May 09, 2011 at 07:03 PM
Dear M Jansen:
>These stupid jews are not better then their brethen Muslim brothers. These 2 Religions cause all the trouble in the world.<
If I recall correctly, it was Christians who murdered tens of thousands in the Crusades, tortured and murdered people in churches during the Inquisition, burned "witches" at the stake, murdered and raped during pogroms, and helped the Nazis exterminate 6 million Jews.
The Jews, by contrast, are angels.
Your anti-Semitism is showing. See a psychiatrist.
Posted by: Mendy | May 09, 2011 at 07:11 PM
@stormwatch, I see you're ripping the Jews and Muslims for being anti-woman, but what about the Christians? I don't see that any of these religions are all that accepting of the equality of women, they just show their colors differently.
It's being a fundamentalist, not necessarily the religion itself, that breeds this hatred of women. But why?
Posted by: Jen Roberts | May 09, 2011 at 08:18 PM
Every single religion should be banned from the face of the earth.
Posted by: the one | May 09, 2011 at 08:26 PM
Why is conservative extreme religion about sex and gender - how women shouldn't appear in public? This is the same as the radical and conservative Islam weirdness. And it is a photo? This is virtual women - not even flesh and blood - I could barely tell these are women in the photo.
Aren't there more challenging ideas??? I respect and love the variety of religions but this is folly.
Anyway - those before me said the same thing better than I did. Yes I am a woman.
Posted by: WL | May 09, 2011 at 08:40 PM
Mr. Rosenberg you are an ass for printing these things about religious Jews. You will be payed back din v'cheshbon. When they say that you should not celebrate the fall of your enemy they are referring to people like you. Jews who hate Jews, but believe me when I tell you. I will find it very hard not to celebrate your fall
Posted by: Dave | May 09, 2011 at 09:23 PM
Wow. Talk about strict interpretations of Religion being the most absolutely out-dated human enterprise. Seriously. I respect everyone on earth and treat them the same, so I am not going to judge you. but seriously... Jews, the really orthodox ones, you need to chill the ** out and think outside the box.
Posted by: g e orge | May 10, 2011 at 12:58 AM
http://i466.photobucket.com/albums/rr29/okarola/SITUATIONROOM.jpg
Posted by: dealwithit | May 10, 2011 at 03:05 AM
>Mr. Rosenberg you are an ass for printing these things about religious Jews. You will be payed back din v'cheshbon....Jews who hate Jews<
The scoundrels here are not folks like Mr. Rosenberg, but the fools who, in the name of "modesty," excise the images of the properly-dressed Secretary of State and a female counterterrorism analyst simply because they are women.
Kudos to Mr. Rosenberg for exposing the chareidi asses. CNN already has picked up the story, with Anderson Cooper ridiculing the incident on national TV.
And don't look to God to pay back Mr. Rosenberg by "din v'cheshbon." God is much too busy starving innocent babies to death by the thousands every day. He has a curious and twisted sense of justice.
Posted by: Mendy | May 10, 2011 at 03:38 AM
@Jose: The catholic Opus Dei crackpots are of the same ilk.
Posted by: Andreas Kyriacou | May 10, 2011 at 04:01 AM
La photo originale affiche Mme Clinton et une autre femme en arrière plan. Sur la photo retouchée du journal, LES DEUX FEMMES SONT ABSENTES ! POURQUOI ?
Posted by: Gaetan Rosa50 | May 10, 2011 at 07:13 AM
Natalie, very nice, composed response.
Sandra--this may not be representative of Orthodox Jews--but evidently a lot of them are buying that paper and its views...
Posted by: observer | May 10, 2011 at 08:00 AM
Not the Onion???
Posted by: Rick | May 10, 2011 at 10:05 AM
actually the USA also deleted a few important players who were in that room too. The original undoctored photo can be found here: http://brainphreak.blogspot.com/2011/05/proof-osama-is-dead-constipation-room.html
Posted by: Bacteria Farmer | May 10, 2011 at 10:09 AM
There are number of major problems with has happened. 1) They violated the usage agreement. Whether they are taken to task on it or not is irrelevant. It shows disrespect for the rules. 2) Their apology attempts to speak for Orthodox Judaism. I don't think so. Speak for your sect or the gate/path that you follow only. There may be a truth, but there are many paths to it. 3) This is more of a criticism so those in that camp are free to object. There is no normative halaha on the necessity to remove women from pictures such as this one where the women in question are clearly wearing modest clothing. The mere fact that they have a leadership position or work as a professional politician, bureaucrat, doctor, lawyer, academic, etc. is how the world works, because women do have brains and are capable of working in such a capacity. And, the faster Orthodox Judaism copes with it and figures out how to work with it within the bounds of halaha, the better. If we shy away from it and move toward the path of intolerance like our co-religionists in the middle eastern world, we fail.
Posted by: JustFollowing | May 10, 2011 at 11:11 AM
Amazing all you Hillary haters who never voted once or wrote one good thing about her! vs. the N.Y. orthodox jewish community who always supported her in votes and in their publications including the zeitung, are now trying to re arrange their musical chairs and to show the world that their real 'hate' (or self hate) to the orthodox is even greater than their hate of Hillary!
Posted by: moshe | May 10, 2011 at 12:03 PM
"when was the last time you heard of a Jewish woman being stoned for adultery or splashed with acid for trying to receive an education?" Misha
Well, there was several women in Israel in the past couple of years who were jailed for praying with a Torah and prayer shawl in public, or for "disturbing the peace." Or whatever other excuses they made up. And those are the only ones that managed to make the news. I'm sure it happens a lot more than they let on about. Wouldn't want their "fellow democrats" in the US to find out they arrest women for praying in public, would they?
Posted by: pfft | May 10, 2011 at 03:42 PM
hat a bunch of dicks you are !!, photo shopping women out of pictures, to protect their modesty. Are you so scared of women in power you use this crap excuse to justify your actions. Do you feel so threatened you do this. The world is laughing at you. Your pathetic religion is just as bad as the muslims. Maybe Hitler did actually have it right after all.
Posted by: Robynne Hartshorne | May 09, 2011 at 03:35 PM
These stupid jews are not better then their brethen Muslim brothers.
These 2 Religions cause all the trouble in the world.
Posted by: M Jansen | May 09, 2011 at 06:51 PM
Shmarya I'd consider locking the comments for this post. People are abusing your comments section and using them to Jew hate and proselytize. At least consider removing the more hateful.
Posted by: Yissy-Ca | May 10, 2011 at 03:42 PM
Mike Burke:
This is not an israeli newspaper, it's in New York.
Posted by: Misha | May 10, 2011 at 05:57 PM
"...there was several women in Israel in the past couple of years who were jailed for praying with a Torah and prayer shawl in public, or for "disturbing the peace." Pfft:
I refer you to the comment you responded to. I am not saying that Jewish religious extremism is well behaved, and the fact that they removed Hillary from the picture already illustrates that. My problem is with those who say that Jewish and Muslim treatment of women is the same (and, needless to say, I am talking about religious fringes on the Muslim side as well). I hope that you will agree that arresting someone and taking them in for questioning (there was no long term imprisonment in the praying with a Torah incident) is not quite the same as brutally murdering someone.
Posted by: Misha | May 10, 2011 at 06:10 PM
The newspaper's editors explained that they even say prayers in shul for the welfare of the U.S. government. Is this true for chareidi shuls?
Posted by: Mendy | May 10, 2011 at 08:24 PM
U.S. Copyright law specifically and explicitly allows anyone to manipulate and publish any U.S. Government works, including photographs.
Posted by: Joseph | May 10, 2011 at 10:20 PM
No it does not.
Documents not restricted by national security or law enforcement needs can usually be published and there are other restrictions on usage recognized by the courts.
Posted by: Shmarya | May 10, 2011 at 11:29 PM
The Western Wall
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/805/westernwall.jpg/
Posted by: Western Wall | May 11, 2011 at 02:17 AM
She IS the Kwisatz Haderach!
Posted by: Alia | May 11, 2011 at 10:59 AM
Another viewpoint on the photoshopped Hillary controversy:
http://hasidismandlit.blogspot.com/2011/05/photoshopped-hilary-clinton-brouhaha.html
Posted by: BenBliShem | May 11, 2011 at 02:32 PM
i personally like this version the most:
http://www.break.com/pictures/superhero-situation-room-2056780
Posted by: Peter | May 12, 2011 at 01:53 AM
A Comedian makes Fun of Hasidim that Hillary Clinton is to Sexy for their Newspaper...
watch the Video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jb2OLxERpes
Posted by: Sexist Hillary Clinton Photoshop | May 15, 2011 at 03:14 AM
why were they removed? Because they are female? What a load of horse shit you back ward third world toilet paper!
Posted by: gemma davus | May 15, 2011 at 03:22 PM
I hope the editors will recognize the mistake they made and will pray to be forgiven on this one. At the end we all make mistakes.
Posted by: EVE ISK | September 06, 2011 at 02:34 AM
With people and photo shop these days lots of trouble can be caused by changing pictures. Some people are so good at this that you wonder some times if these fake photos are real. Bit of a concern if you ask me.
Posted by: Mike | October 18, 2012 at 02:11 PM
It's amazing how one person with photo shop software can cause so much conflict and problems in the world.
Posted by: Mike | October 25, 2012 at 03:24 PM