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May 09, 2011


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There seem to have been two responses to the European (Christian) oppression which has oppressed Jews for about 1500 years or so:
1) become super-frum
2) become uber-Reform and try to assmilate.
In today's societies neither is an option.
I have come to the conclusion (as an observer, also as a fellow Jew, though Sephardic) that many Jews of European origin are still somewhat traumatized by what the European Christians did to my Jewish brothers. For that I cannot forgive the Christians. (As well as trying to hijack our Tanach for their propoganda purposes, but that's another story).


Posted by: A true jew | May 10, 2011 at 02:29 PM

Your problem is that you fail to understand why people like Savage and Beck will claim the orthodoxy is the real Jewish religion, they are using your religious view as a political tool, to argue against liberalism which reform Jews tend to lean. In addition, if you want to depend on Savage and Beck decisions who are a Jew you are doing a disservice to every Jew. We do not need others to tell us who we are, definitely not a Mormon.

Lilian Krawitz

Re Jays post, -

The Haredi ARE fundamental extremists.
- there is no difference between them and any other Religious extremists, be they Wahabi or Taliban

A true jew

For all you jew-haters out there, consider Hugh Hefner your Rabbi. Hes jewish too. Thats where the Reform community leads to.

A true jew

I dont understand the Reform community why they even consider themselves the spokesmen for the Jews. Even non-orthodox like Michael Savage and christians like Glenn Beck and many more say that the real jews are the black-hatted orthodox guys from Brooklyn who follow the Torah and the Shulchan Aruch. Without learning them you dont even know what it means to be a jew. Theres much more to it than going maybe once a year to synagogue (by car). All their ancestors abided by these laws and they think theyre smarter. JEWS Do Teshuvah!!


Amazing all you Hillary haters who never voted once or wrote one good thing about her! vs. the N.Y. orthodox jewish community who always supported her in votes and in their publications including the zeitung, are now trying to re arrange their musical chairs and to show the world that their real 'hate' (or self hate) to the orthodox is even greater than their hate of Hillary!


They seem to hold beliefs as extreme as the taliban. Should we invade?

Andreas Kyriacou

Some commenters already mentioned it in the initial posting, the situation room edit wasn't exactly a first: Laura Bush and even female Israeli ministers had been erased in pretty much the same way by other newspapers and magazines addressing an ultra-orthodox readership.

The internet will probably make this archaic and misogynic practice go away rather sooner than later.

Roving Ricky

Since when was Hillary Clinton immodest?


steven colbert did a funny skit on this

Roving Ricky

Anyone notice how sexist those asserted "laws of modesty" are? They're practically all male centered, focusing on impact upon men of seeing pictures of women. Never mind that women might have their own ideas of "modesty" and "decency" (and, of course, who deserves to be in a picture).


Hey good news!
Maybe this will screw up Rubashkin's chances of getting a pardon [not that he had any kind of a chance]

reb chaim

That does it! I've decided to cancel my subscription. Is it any wonder that charedim are called: "Anoshim m'meah acheret"?


I read that a few years ago a girl's school in Saudi Arabia was on fire and the firemen were slow to deal with it due to some stupid version of tzniyut that the Wahabis believe. The poor girls died. This is insanity. We have stop these Haredim from going over the edge. The only way is to be the best Jews we can be.


Wonder if "Saturday Night Live" will do something with this...

A. Nuran

Freedom of the press does not extend to misuse of copyrighted material for commercial purposes. The dimwits at Der Zeitung absolutely ignored the requirement that the photo be run unaltered.


This will not harm anyone. The free publicity will help the newspaper increase its readership.


I couldn't agree more.


From the number outlets that carried scott's original article one can safely extrapolate the ridicule and opprobrium it must have generated. Now that it has gone viral I wonder how many lost parnossa or were treated shabbily or worse, G-d forbid, as a result of someone having read this article? In other words the harm is incalculable and that too will be on scott's head.

Posted by: alex | May 09, 2011 at 07:29 PM

no the harm is because the moron who air brushed out the woman


From the number outlets that carried scott's original article one can safely extrapolate the ridicule and opprobrium it must have generated. Now that it has gone viral I wonder how many lost parnossa or were treated shabbily or worse, G-d forbid, as a result of someone having read this article? In other words the harm is incalculable and that too will be on scott's head.


Once again, my question is: why is it assur to print a picture of a modestly-dressed woman? Is it also assur to look at a woman, even when she's not dressed provocatively? Can someone here provide a source?



Religious paper apologizes for erasing Clinton from iconic photo
By Jessica Ravitz, CNN

(CNN) – Faith has outweighed fact at Di Tzeitung, a Hasidic newspaper based in Brooklyn, New York.

The ultra-Orthodox Jewish publication ran a doctored copy of the iconic “Situation Room Photo” last Friday – you know, the one taken of President Barack Obama and his national security team during the raid on Osama bin Laden’s compound.

Scrubbed from the picture: the two women in the room.

It’s as if Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, with her hand clasped over her mouth, and Audrey Tomason, director of counterterrorism, weren’t there and weren’t part of history.

The newspaper later apologized for violating White House instructions against altering photos.

"We should not have published the altered picture, and we have conveyed our regrets and apologies to the White House and to the State Department," the newspaper said in a statement Monday.

The original photo, taken by White House photographer Pete Souza, shows Clinton and Tomason.
The news of this broke Friday when Shmarya Rosenberg, 52, posted a quick piece on his blog Failed Messiah.

Rosenberg, of St. Paul, Minnesota, said he wasn't surprised by the photo doctoring and only posted something about it because "it was a slow news day."

A former ultra-Orthodox Jew, Rosenberg has been writing about the ultra-Orthodox community - mostly about crime and what he dubbed "strange media" - for seven years. He said the newspapers in that community have become "increasingly strange with their censorship of women's faces and women's bodies" over the past few years.

He said readers of the Yiddish-language paper used to see photos of rabbis with their wives and that there was then a time when the women were blurred. Now, they're just not there.

But in a written statement issued Monday afternoon by Di Tzeitung, the newspaper said that its decision to leave women out of photos is religiously mandated and that the right to do so is protected by the U.S. Constitution.

"The First Amendment to the Constitution guarantees freedom of religion. That has precedence even to our cherished freedom of the press," the statement said. "Publishing a newspaper is a big responsibility, and our policies are guided by a Rabbinical Board."

"Because of laws of modesty, we are not allowed to publish pictures of women, and we regret if this gives an impression of disparaging women, which is certainly never our intention," it continued. "We apologize if this was seen as offensive."

Within Judaism, there are a number of denominations - Reform, Conservative, Reconstructionist and modern Orthodox, to name some - and ultra-Orthodox Judaism accounts for just one branch of the faith.

It's worth noting that the White House attached this disclaimer to the photo when it was released:

This official White House photograph is being made available only for publication by news organizations and/or for personal use printing by the subject(s) of the photograph. The photograph may not be manipulated in any way and may not be used in commercial or political materials, advertisements, emails, products, promotions that in any way suggests approval or endorsement of the President, the First Family, or the White House.

"We're not going to comment" on this matter, a White House senior official told CNN.

The leadership at Di Tzietung, though, apologized for violating the disclaimer.

"Our photo editor realized the significance of this historic moment, and published the picture, but in his haste he did not read the 'fine print' that accompanied the picture, forbidding any changes," the newspaper said in its Monday statement.

Furthermore, Di Tzeitung noted the Orthodox community's respect for Clinton, who served as a senator in New York for eight years.

"She won overwhelming majorities in the Orthodox Jewish communities...because the religious community appreciated her unique capabilities and compassion to all communities," the statement said. "The allegations that religious Jews denigrate women or do not respect women in public office is a malicious slander and libel."


This is the kind of editorial action I'd expect from Wahabi extremists or Taliban.


CNN just had the story on TV, showing both photos with a brief description of what the frumma did.


This story has gone viral. Little do they know this is SOP for all chareidi newspapers.


David, my conclusion is that the answer is not to give up Judaism, but to be the best ambassadors for Judaism we can all be ie. study the Torah and also have a regular job and strive to be on all-round decent friendly kind person, kind and friendly to all, not just fellow Jews.
We must not let the Haredim define Judaism for us, or be the face of Judaism to the rest of the world. The only way, IMHO, is to do BOTH Torah study and BE a regular person ie. a "mensch", and be friendly to non-Jews not out of fear of repercussions, but because all humans are "tzelem Elokim" not just Jews.


TooClose, they do indeed have the right to publish whatever silly drek they want, and although they did violate the warning about not altering the photo, I doubt if charges will be pursued against them.

Likewise, the rest of the world has the right to mock them for carrying their silly fanatical beliefs to such an extreme.

You and I are accustomed to frumma lunacy. This time, let the rest of the planet see it.


may guess is
that the daily show and colbert will have a field day with this


Funny story,

a friend was in store in Williamsburg when a few chasideshe girl walk in complaining about the costume poster that blocked out the girl faces.

They6 where mad, why anybody would do that to them.

sadly a first lesson how they will be treated as adults ,


Be thankful that you not part of the frumma monkeys.

Those frumma are nothing but stinking up the planet.

The frumma are not even human they are from the jungle.

All the fruma can do,is having 12 kids and neglect them.

The frumma POS husbands with stinking long beards are sitting on stoops waiting for handouts.

I hope i helped you out a bit with your obsession.
And you call yourself and intelligent person?


ahh-everybody's gettin their skirt in a knot about nothin-this frikkin counrty is 14 trillion in debt, and this is the only horesehit thats important?-get a life-they didnt hurt anyone, they didnt steal from anyone, and its their frikkin paper for their readership.


David, too late. Now Yahoo News is carrying the story about the "kosher cell phones", complete with an unflattering photo:


The story brings up the matter of preventing frumma from texting members of the opposite sex, and looking at porn.

There are already about 100 comments, all mocking the frumma, and some mentioning jokingly that the phone deletes photos of women.

The frumma are finally getting the exposure they deserve.

who knows

The problem is not Der Tzeitung, but the stupid constitution allowing freedom of the press, instead of much better system where every article and photo must be approved for publication by the rabbis.


There are now thousands of comments all over on every news website. Just look at a few, and you'll see how the world thinks of the 'orthodox'.

This is an enormous chillul Hashem, even by the low standards of the frumma. How can we correct this and make the world understand that this is not normative Judaism?


It seems from every article now appearing about this, and the comments, that the issue is not no much the aspect of this being revisionist news, but the insanity of not allowing pictures of women, in the name of 'modesty'.

Plenty of comments compare this to the Taliban and radical Islamic insanity.

Those of us here are accustomed to frumma psychosis, and so we aren't as shocked as we are amused by it.


++OMG | May 09, 2011 at 03:15 PM++

OMG, scroll down on your link and you will see a long list of major news sources all around the USA and the world with this story! It is also one of the lead stories on Yahoo News and the NY newspapers.

The frumma have made complete asses out of themselves, this time in front of the entire USA and the world.

There are now thousands of comments all over on every news website. Just look at a few, and you'll see how the world thinks of the 'orthodox'.

One of the news sites mentions that a CNN reporter showed the story and doctored photo to a senior White House staff member, who did not want to comment on it.


They may very well have gotten a letter from the White House....

Good point, Wool.


It's still a lot more than I expected. Ordinarily, the frumma don't give a crap about others who criticize them, unless it involves frumma money or power.

They may very well have gotten a letter from the White House or other high-ranking government official about the picture having been altered, and so they had to respond. The fact that the letter is reasonably correct grammatically leads me to believe that they did feel the heat and had a lawyer write it.


To tooclose2detroit,

There are even journals and web sites that discuss how news is slanted by different news organizations and journaliasts.

As for calling Di Zeitung out re: lying to its readers by photoshopping the picture instead of just covering part of the picture with black electrical tape, its called freedom of the press. And saying something if you see an injustice being done.

state of disgust

"Here is the Huffington Post mentioning Shmarya


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Actually, the original picture was also doctored. Here's the REAL picture that "they" are trying to keep from us!



A further falsehood is that they misrepresent themselves to the general community as "religious Jews" rather than the cult that they are. If they were truly religious they wouldn't look and behave as they do. These people are a disgrace and an embarrassment to Jews and all human beings, everywhere.


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By whom? By their Rabbinical Board.


Because of laws of modesty, we are not allowed to publish pictures of women

Not allowed? By whom? Source please?

Posted by: C-G | May 09, 2011 at 03:24 PM

that is a good question what I want to know is how do they walk in the street

Posted by: seymour | May 09, 2011 at 03:50 PM

but woman can look at picture of men


Actually, they shouldn't be printing any photos depicting human beings of any gender, if they really are orthodox. That's what I learned in orthodox school. Betcha they sneak treif, too.


Because of laws of modesty, we are not allowed to publish pictures of women

Not allowed? By whom? Source please?

Posted by: C-G | May 09, 2011 at 03:24 PM

that is a good question what I want to know is how do they walk in the street


please their statement is full of nonsense.

1. Did they have a disclaimer on the photo or in the article and say that Hilliary Clinton was part of the photo but because of Halacha (dubious) reason they edited her out. If they did that then maybe if not their excuse is BS.
2. I wonder how many of the readers and editors of that newspaper say a prayer for the US government and their officials
3. "The allegations that religious Jews denigrate women or do not respect women in public office, is a malicious slander and libel." Lets see a frum lady run for office and see what happens.
4. did not mention that they voted for her at 98% rate and then her husband pardoned some yiddin.
5 We do have a bracha about not being a woman.

Why don't they just say the truth and stick up for their believes and say it is based on the torah and stop lying


not sure what the hullabaloo is about-tis their paper, sold to a limited audience-why cant they do what they want?-if they woulda put in someone that wasnt there, that to me is lying-but if they want to take her face out, why should anyone give a crap, or have the right to criticize-no one seems to give a crap about how the media slants story after story to back up whichever political candidate gives them an orgasm, so why is this such a major problem?


Because of laws of modesty, we are not allowed to publish pictures of women

Not allowed? By whom? Source please?


Here is the Huffington Post mentioning Shmarya



The Hassid gets completely aroused by seeing a picture of Hillary, and Bill looks for someone else?

Hassids should never sit next to women on planes.


they constantly steal phtoes from online news agencies and they always crop them. so u meaan to tell that thier editor always forgets to read the small copywrite print? all they did by. this so called apology is open up a huge can of worms

Gene Webster

Your "freedom of religion trumps telling the truth"? And you are the people of the 10 commandments?
No wonder you missed the Messiah! You can't even remember the ninth commandment!


Does anyone know if this "apology" was offered in Yiddish and this is a translation or is this just the best English that Der Tzeitung could come up with?

Gevezener Chusid

When was the last time anyone who reads that newspaper said the "special prayer for the government"? It's not even in the siddurim they use.


Separate from the issue of whether the editing of the photo is anti-women, the fact that a newspaper would manipulate a photo shows that they are indifferent to the truth. No respectable newspaper would do something like this. The fact that the frum community is largely indifferent to this is sad.

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