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May 27, 2011

After Days Of Pressure, Skvere Rebbe Issues Statement On Attempted Murder And Arson

Skverer Rebbe After days of pressure from the media and with a criminal investigation that is closing in on him, the Skvere Rebbe makes a brief statement to his yeshiva students about the attack carried out by his butler that almost killed the entire Rottenberg family – and that left Aron Rottenberg severely burned and fighting for his life in a hospital.

Please click the gray bar to listen. An English translation is posted below.

Skvere Rebbe Rottenberg Attack 5-26-11

This is a rough translation cobbled together from translations done by two readers and myself:

"I want to announce something. We’re going through agmas nefesh [a painful time]. We should really not have to say this. We know from all the years, I spoke many times about this, not to go [out] with power or fight, and even more so, not to hurt any Jew. It against our ways. Everyone knows the way of Skvere is Torah, and all its ways are ways of pleasantness and all its paths are peace. I really should not have to say this. But because this terrible thing happened, maybe it's good to say it again and let everyone know that, God forbid, do not fight with koach [power], it makes agmas nefesh [troubles, irritation]. Its against our way, the way of Skvere. This [incident] brought a lot of tears and pain. Whoever needs healing, God should send them healing, and they should come home healthy. Now is a time of healing. God should help that the shtetl [the village of New Square] should be at peace with one heart, with Torah and mitzvos and good deeds. The Me’or Einyim says that on Shavuos we accept the Torah [all over again].… God should help that my father, zt"l, should make his merit be a shield and we shall receive the Torah physically and spiritually, exclusively with happiness."

Update 5:18 am CST Tuesday, May 31 – This appears to be the Rebbe's statement in print:

Skver Rebbe's written statement Yiddish 5-27-11

[Hat Tip: Burich.]

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The response to a media firestorm is to leak (?) a statement to his talmidim?

"Whoever needs healing, God should send him healing, and he should come home healthy."

Too bad he couldn't bring himself to name the person who needs healing.

Everyone knows the way of Skvere is Torah

Only members of the Skvere cult think that.

Whatever they follow, it is not Torah. Torah teaches us not to lie, cheat or steal, to give our children an education so they can do productive work and NOT to commit or attempt to commit murder. It also teaches us to be a "light unto the nations". Rather than being a light, all they generate is revulsion and darkness.

he does not say "he" should be healed,but rather "they" should be healed

Thanks!

"Everyone knows the way of Skvere is Torah"

I guess when the whole town stands around every week for hours and hours watching him eat and singing songs, they're really just studying Torah.

i hope you keep up coverage of this sad story this is the only blog to have full coverage

what i hear from this sound bite that the rabbi feels sorry for himself that this whole story is in the media

typical criminal sorry that he was caught

he does not say "he" should be healed,but rather "they" should be healed

Posted by: listencarefuly | May 27, 2011 at 04:02 AM

I believe there are two people hospitalized with burns from this incident.

self serving statement the agmas nefesh that he himself created and perpetuated he is trying to extracate himself good acting.

While there is tremendous chesed in Skver, the ways of Skver also include incest, rape and prescription drug addiction. It is not the way of Torah....in many ways Teaneck, Woodmere and Deal are more the way of Torah.

His statement is fine. He said nothing wrong. The issue is what *actions* are being taken.

cookie cutter excuse. maybe a frum lawyer wrote it for him
no mention to say tehiliem for victim or his family
no mention to stop the harassment
he could have said flatly I do not condone any harassment if a person disobeys one of my commensurate
took zero responsibility for the environment he created that lead to these even if he never meant if should come to this

very vague, very unfocused and imprecise speech. A terrible tragedy has occurred, a father of five is in critical condition burned on 50% of his body by the rebbi's butler who intentialy wanted to kill him. The rebbi doesnt even mention his name. The rebbi really thinks the whole world is dumb and stupid? This 18 year old didnt act on his own, he was just a messenger by higer up in this square mafia controlled tat is called the rebbi of squrare. Why dosnt the rebbi go and visit rottenberg for a bikur cholim visit in the hospital? This victim rotenberg is a life long resident of New square, the whole world is up with this travesty and the rebbi doesnt even find it imortant to mention his name? Rotenberg is in a hospital in critical condition in westchester county a 10 minute ride from the rebbis house and the rebbi finds it not imortant to go bikel cholim visit to him? Rebbi from now on your not to be called a rebbi your name from now on is DUVIDEL MURDERER ROTSACH

The victim holds a press conference, in the streets of New Square, whith camera's and reporters, for the world to hear, with a experienced lawyer on the case.

While the accused makes a vague, unannounced statement, in a language few (including the Police) understand, to a small group of closed minded followers, when no one else is present, and doesn't even offer a written translation of any kind?

I know who I think the guilty party is.

Is that the use of the "regal" WE or just a poor translation? Does Twerski actually refer to himself as "WE"???

The Sqverer Rebbe and his chassidim are students of Haman Harasha.

Haman could not stand that there eas on person inhis kingdom (mordechai)thatwas not bowing down to him. And he went totally ballistic

No difference over here.

So you are all ready to condemn this Rebbe for doing what you condemned him for not doing the last few days.

Basically no matter what he does you won't be happy.

Whats that expression "Damned if you do damned if you don't"

Its like antisemites (not saying you are antisemitic) -- the ones who accuse jews of being capitalists and communists at the same time

This is a very weak statement. I am extremely disappointed in the Rebbe for putting such and inadequate statement out.

Is that the use of the "regal" WE or just a poor translation? Does Twerski actually refer to himself as "WE"???

Posted by: R. Wisler | May 27, 2011 at 07:39 AM

The Rebbe meant:We, He and the butler.

It really doesn't matter what this filthy schmuck says; he is a lying psycho who has destroyed the lives of his ignorant and delusional followers.

Any info on the "criminal investigation closing in on him"?

The snake has started eating its tail.

"Everyone knows the way of Skvere is Torah"

I guess when the whole town stands around every week for hours and hours watching him eat and singing songs, they're really just studying Torah.

Posted by: netflix | May 27, 2011 at 04:54 AM

How about when he gets money? How about when he shakes? How about when he refuses wives getting a divorce after years of abuse in order to protect longtime friends?


",not to hurt any Jew,"

How about, "not to hurt any Person"?

You see, Bigotry towards all Non-Jews, eventually brings to fighting whithin themselves.

His statement is fine. He said nothing wrong. The issue is what *actions* are being taken.

Posted by: Yoel Mechanic

he may not have said anything wrong, but he sure as hell didnt say enough right. What a bunch of kooks.

So you are all ready to condemn this Rebbe for doing what you condemned him for not doing the last few days.

Basically no matter what he does you won't be happy.

Whats that expression "Damned if you do damned if you don't"

Its like antisemites (not saying you are antisemitic) -- the ones who accuse jews of being capitalists and communists at the same time

Posted by: Simple Jew | May 27, 2011 at 07:53 AM

we where looking for a statement with some substance

This whole stinking Ramapo mess has to go:
The E Ramapo Board of Ed destroying the schools its supposed to run, Christopher St Lawrence and his minions violating zoning and building codes, the welfare abuse, the scamming, the block voting and political corruption, the public assisted housing masquerading as rabbinical schools, ritualistic chicken slaughter, kids growing uneducated withidea there is an outside world...

Ramapo is like a social experiment gone wrong and New Square is like lord of the flies.

i say the borgs that is the square hassidim are in a time warp the movie star treck had theese borg half robots half human taking over and the humans and making them act like the borgs the motto was resistance if futile, this is whar the rebbe is trying to show his followers but i hope this time they got him good resistance will be valid this time

"I spoke many times about this, not to go [out] with power or fight, and even more so, not to hurt any Jew"

Not to hurt any PERSON, you chauvinistic dick.

"and let everyone know that, God forbid, do not fight with koach [power], it makes agmas nefesh"

Not to fight, PERIOD, you inciting ass.

"Whoever needs healing, God should send them healing"

Can't even name the victim in wishing him well, you POS?

TWERSKY GOT A NEW PR GUY HANK SCHEINKOPF
HANK A ORTHODOX PR GUY REPRESENTS THE CATHOLIC CHURCH TO STOP NEW CHILD ABUSE LAWS SHAME ON YOU HANK

I tend to agree with Yoel. It is all about actions. He is not going to play to the press or leave things in print. He spoke generally but we have no idea what really is going on now and what actions he might finally take. If i had messed up this badly I am not going to write it down and release it. I would send out a reminder in general terms to trigger some memory and remind people where they need to go. Off line I would be dealing hard with this. So have some patience. I agree about all the problems and that he has ignored them. This may have woken him up all the way and he is determined to do something. Long hard road given the mess that is there but things may change. To simply make sweeping statement based on a release is foolish. If someone out there lives there bring in a comment if you can.

To get by fax the Skver weekly newsletter BeChatzar Hakoidesh 845-704-1357.
The front page has the comments of the Rebbe regarding the Agmas Nefesh

I can rationalize the Rebbe's carefully selected phrasing.
However, he should have made clear that this is an order and like everything else he utters to his sheeple, if defied will consequentially bring results identical to 'those that need healing'...

Addendum--I am well aware of what goes on there. I am also aware that most Rebbes either are essential off the derech or out of touch completely and in denial. My comment was simply let's see what happens. There is not allot of wiggle room here period. This will be sad and ugly and people are going to jail but it will be unique if something radically begins to change.

I agree with David A. This is a very weak, vague statement.

Where have we lost our way?
There's a Torah, people.
Let's read it and do what it says.
Never mind what the rabbis or any other authority figures say. We read the Torah, we know what's right. That's it, end of story.

Notice how he said not to fight with "Koach" (physical power). This implies that phycological terror is the way to go. Harassment, excomminactions, protests, arson are all legitimate means to enforce his will. Then he embelishes the speech with silly tid-bits, like a "vertel" from the Meor Eyniem, giving the whole speech a flair of triviality.

Its just like when people come to him with their serious life-and-death problems and he answers them with silly dribble about what it says in Noam Megudim blah blah blah.... and they think that he just magically wished their problems away.

Yudel:
Ditto

OMG how it is sad… Skvere, these followers of German Gestapo and Spanish Inquisition, claim to be followers of Baal Shem Tov.

Conservative Jew with peyos

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Channel 12 News reported that the police are trying to speak with the Rabbi about the incident. (It's almost a week now.) Does that mean they have not contacted him yet?

Does Sqverer Rebbe want us to say tehilim for him because he's having "agmas nefesh"?

Off topic. Just wondering, if Sussman gets the FBI to raid the sqverer rebbe's house and they find the same stuff that was found in bin laden's compound. Will his chassidim drop him or will they run out to buy their own.... ?! lol!

Standard boilerplate "rebbish", like the non-committal communal blessings given out publicly, wish the original would be posted, since VIN includes the term "victims", but I suspect its more nonspecific, for all one knows he's asking for rapid release (yeshios) for the arsonist...

he should have

A. Asked for refuah shlemah for Rottenberg by name

B. Promised to cooperate with all police investigations, and directed all his followers to do so

At some later point he should admit that the climate of hatred was bad, and must be changed, but I can see where he might not have wanted to mention it now, for legal reasons

If the FBI raids the skverer rebbe's house they will not kind heroin like they found in Osama Bin Laden's house, but they will find huge quantities of home made wine as the skverer rebbe and the people at his tisch do not drink any wine except for the skverer rebbe's home made wine for reasons of kashruth. They make a huge quantity of wine once a year for the whole year in the fall, at least enough to last a whole year.
The skverer rebbe better have all of his wine moved to somebody elses house before the FBI raids his house and makes all of his wine yayin nesach.

Twersky: "God should help that my father, zt"l, should make his merit be a shield and we shall receive the Torah physically and spiritually, exclusively with happiness."

What delusional narishkeit the way this creep worships his dead father.

Hasidic rebbes are protected by their gabaim from knowing what is going on. For all I know the skverer rebbe didn't even know that his housebachur tried to burn down Aron Rottenberg's house until yesterday. For all I know, when the Skverer rebbe first asked where his housebachur is, he was told by his gabaim that the housebachur went to Brooklyn or that the housebachur has a bad cold and is resting at home or something like that.

BREAKING NEWS ON TWITTER
The spitzer family are saying that he was being choked by the victim and spitzer did it in self defence.

As someone who listens and knows the language of the Rebbe let me clarify:
The Skvere Rebbe NEVER talks about any type of current events and especially not explicit language. For example when is son R' Yakov Yosef was sick with cancer r"l and was on his death bed, he never spoke about it publicly or asked to say tehilim in public. It was just notes hanging in shul in his name.
Another factor is then whatever he speaks are with soft words in not directly.
For his style of words these words are the first time in history that he ever addressed something in such strong terms!
For his Chasidim who hear this language it's the strongest form of condemnation possible. When he said not to use "Koiach" the hasidim won't dear doing the slightest type of even verbal abuse.
And remember he even added the words he should come "home", although some might claim he violated the Kehillas rules. He still welcomed him back.
Now, you can say that he needs to speak stronger and he should change his general way of speaking. As any reader has the right to like his own style of speech.
But as someone who understands his language I wanted to relate simple facts:
HE GAVE THE STRONGEST CONDEMNATION ON THIS!

He was 'bo bamachteres' Rottenberg had every right to kill spitzer. What is the difference between a 'ganev' or someone who tries to burn your house down. He has no right to 'self defense to try to kill the victim'.

Only when things heated up to the point that Aron Rottenberg's lawyer made a press conference on the street in New Square and there were women news reporters not dressed tzniut and there was talk about the police wanting to speak to the rebbe and the FBI wanting to raid the rebbe's house and arrest the rebbe and put the rebbe in prison did the gabaim realize that they had to take the rebbe out of the darkness of not knowing what was going on and tell the rebbe everything that happened so that the rebbe would be able to decide how to react.
The rebbe reacted by going into the yeshiva to give very emotional musar to the bachurim in the yeshiva that they must not be violent under any circumstances even for the purpose of kicking somebody out of New Square. The rebbe probably didn't even know before this that there ever had been any violence in the history of New Square, as hasidic rebbes are protected by their gabaim from knowing what is going on.

Hey Facts. You give off a creepy cult vibe in your post. It's like I'm reading something from the Hare Krishnas or Rajneshees. What the fuck do you mean "language of the Rebbe"? Do you think his tongue is holy?!?

You are clinging desperately to a "reality" that is simply not there. You are unable to see the Rebbe as the Mafia Don that he is.

"Now, you can say that he needs to speak stronger and he should change his general way of speaking. As any reader has the right to like his own style of speech."

if he had used soft and indirect speech against the initial harassment, and it had stopped, that might be an appealing argument. However he missed that chance - now its really too late, I believe.

BREAKING NEWS ON TWITTER
The spitzer family are saying that he was being choked by the victim and spitzer did it in self defence.

Posted by: aron | May 27, 2011 at 11:47 AM

Let me see if I get this straight.

It's 4 am. It's dark out. A masked man is carrying a Molotov cocktail and goes onto private property he does not own or have use of and approaches a house where a family is sleeping. The masked man gets on the porch and begins to light the Molotov cocktail. The homeowner confronts the masked man rips off his mask and, in your words, chokes him. The masked man then intentionally sets the homeowner on fire.

And you call this legitimate self defense?

You think it's okay because otherwise, the masked man 'only' would have set the house on fire?

If Rottenberg had not choked Spitzer, Spitzer could have killed everyone in that house.

Spitzer's 'defense' is not a defense.

Hasidic rebbes are protected by their gabaim from knowing what is going on. For all I know the skverer rebbe didn't even know that his housebachur tried to burn down Aron Rottenberg's house until yesterday. For all I know, when the Skverer rebbe first asked where his housebachur is, he was told by his gabaim that the housebachur went to Brooklyn or that the housebachur has a bad cold and is resting at home or something like that.

Posted by: Hakham Yosef Haim | May 27, 2011 at 11:40 AM

Please.

The incident happened next to the Rebbe's synagogue. There were police cars with lights and sirens. The police were there for hours. Thousands of New Square residents know about the attack and talk about the attack. Media have tried to interview the Rebbe about it and the police want to question him.

But delusional 'Hakham' Yosef Haim thinks the Rebbe doesn't know what happened?

You're either a troll or a person who is off his meds.

Perhaps in your case, both are true.

Go see your psychiatrist.

Never read above comments, just posting my selfish comment:
It sounds as if the Rebbe supports haraasment& emotional pain to those who undermine the power of his autocratic regime, yet physical violence which casts a bad name for his Brand name of his corporation Square isn't allowed.
He hopes for a refuah Sheleima so that the charges of attempted murder don't get upgraded to murder.
Rest assured you will be getting a pidyon shevuyim letter in the mail. Although this has nothing to do with pidyon shevuyim, helping a fellow Jew getting the best legal team is at most tzedokah & calling it Pidon Shevuyim is theft IMHO.
The Rebbe may be responsible, because Hasholeiach es havbeearah beyad cheresh shoitah vekoton chayav.One who sends a flame in the hands of a deaf mute, mentaly ill,or minor is responsible for all damage they cause.

The Rebbe most probably had no clue that something like this is going to happen.
He knew about Rottenberg davaning somewhere else and he is against that.
They should of offer him money to move out.

I predict the Rebbe will be untouchable and spitzer will MAYBE get a small amount of prison time.
Time will tell.

to shmarya
its not me i was repeating what the spitzer family said on twitter.
see my second post i wrote that according to jewish law he has every right to kill him. if he can kill him then in self defense is a moot point

I don't understand why the Rottenbergs would want to stay in New Square after what was done to them. If I was the victim of such horrible crimes I would want to move.
Nevertheless maybe the skverer rebbe's historic statement will get his hasidim to forgive the Rottenbergs and make the Rottenbergs feel at home in New Square and realize that if they want somebody to move out of New Square because he is not a skverer hasid and they need housing for skverer hasidim who want to move into New Square because of the housing shortage in New Square, they should offer the person who they want to move to Monsey the cost of buying a house in Monsey plus moving expenses as payment for his house in New Square.
The housing shortage in New Square is so severe that they have a rule that unless both the hatan and the calah are both from New Square families, they must live outside of New Square for at least the first year of their marriage and only after the first year of their marriage can they go to the rebbe to ask for permission to move to New Square.

Not exactly if he had not choked him they would have had time to run away from the burning house since they already knew he was there. But i state again even so the torah gives him every right to kill him that is bo bamachteres

Shmarya:
How close to the rebbe's house is Aron Rottenberg's house that Shaul Spitzer tried to burn down?

Not far. Within a block, I think.

Not exactly if he had not choked him they would have had time to run away from the burning house since they already knew he was there. But i state again even so the torah gives him every right to kill him that is bo bamachteres

Posted by: aron | May 27, 2011 at 12:23 PM
am echod

Please.

If he didn't choke Spitzer, do you think Spitzer might have killed Rottenberg by throwing the petrol bomb directly on him?

And if Spitzer did set the house on fire, what makes you think Rottenberg would have been able to get back in and get his family out in time?

There is no self defense claim for an attacker, a rodef. None at all.

in secular law, it might create a response to a claim of premeditation though. I dunno. IANAL.

Hakham Yosef Haim
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Nevertheless maybe the skverer rebbe's historic statement will get his

historic, I gave a better and more heart-full apology when my dog bite another dog and offered to pay for damages

the way he spoke that speech could have been give any day of any week

BREAKING NEWS ON TWITTER
The spitzer family are saying that he was being choked by the victim and spitzer did it in self defence.

Posted by: aron | May 27, 2011 at 11:47 AM

how could anybody verity this was from the family and not some creep

I was beaten up for being a breslever 35 years ago outside the building of the skverer yeshiva when the rebbe was much younger and the rebbe didn't know what was going on. It is unbelievable how rebbes are overprotected by their gabaim.

ויצא רוצח מגזע טווערסקי
וואָס האָט פּאַסירט אין סקווער איז אַ מכּה וואָס נעמט איין חרדישע יידן בכלל און חסידים בפרט בכל מקומות מושבותיהם. סקווער איז סך הכּל אַן עקסטרעמער מוסטער. צי אין באָבאָוו צי אין בעלז צי אין וויזניץ צי אין גער זענען מכּות די מנהג המקום און געוואַלד פון די מצוות אנשים מלומדה. ווער רעדט נאָך פון סאַטמאַר וווּ זיי האָבן דערויף אַ חלק שולחן ערוך. און איידער די ליטווישע פּאַטשן זיך די בייכלעך לאָמיר זען וואָס גייט פאָר אין פּאָנאָוויטש.

מיר האָבן צוויי מכּות אשר לא כּתובים וואָס זענען שטאַרק פאַרבינדן: איינס אַז יעדער משוגעת ווערט באַלד אַ יהרג ואל יעבור און אַ דריטער חורבן בית המקדש. איבער אַפּאָר נאַרקאָטיק שמוגלער געט מען אויס מיליאָנען כּאילו כּלל ישראל וועט אונטערגיין אָן זיי בשעת ווען קינדער לערנען אין האַלב צאַמגעוואָפענע געביידעס און עלטערן ווייסן נישט וווּ זיך אַהינצוטון מיט אַזויפיל קינדער. און צווייטנס האָבן מיר זיך ערגעץ איינגעבאַקן אַז לית דין ולית דיין און אונז מיינט מען נישט. פון צופיל געוויכט אויף אַ פליגער ביז גנבנען פון ציבורישע קאַסעס ביז פאַרברענען מענטשן, אין אַלעס זענען מיר אַן אויסנאַם. אַ הלכה בפני עצמם, אַ לאָ אָנטו אָוירסעלווס. מיר וועלן דן זיין עד כּלות הנפש צי אויפמאַכן אַ פּעקל צוקער אויף שבת הייסט מאַכן אַ כּלי און צי אַ כּזית איז דער גרייס פון אַ מילגראָם אָדער אַ מעלאָן אָבער אַז מען דאַרף זיך צוגאַרטלען ווען מען זעצט זיך אַריין אין אַ קאַר איז צו שווער אַריינצוגיין אין אונזערע קאַרפּן קעפּ.

דאָס איז נאָר ביי פּשוטי עם. ווען עס קומט צו רביס איז אַ גאַנץ באַזונדערע מסכת. לפני מלכים יתיצב. מאן מלכי רבנן. מלך פורץ גדר. וויבאַלד זיי וואַרטן נישט אין אַ רייע ביי די פּאַספּאָרטן, גייען נישט אין מקוה מיטן עולם און קענען זיך אָנרוקן צי אַ דינער מיט אַ מנין הינטער זייערע בענקל שכן דרך בני מלכים לעמוד איז אַריין אַ דמיון אין קאָפּ אַז זיי זענען אָנטאָטשעבעלס. אפילו פון די חוקים פון גראַוויטי זענען זיי פטור ווייל די בייכלעך זייערע האָבן זיי אויך געירשנט. די שיסטערס און שניידערס פאַר זיי איז געמאַכט אַ דין תורה אָבער די צדיקים זייערע כּוח איז ביד חזקה ובזרוע נטויה.

מיר זענען רעלאַטיוו ווייניק און על פי רוב איז דער וועלט נישט צופיל אינטערסירט ממילא רעדן מיר זיך איין אַז אונזער גמרא קאָפּ איז דער והיא שעמדה. ווי דער גולם וואָס איז אַרומגעלאָפן אין שטאָט מיט אַ במדבר חומש און געזאָגט עס איז בראשית און זיך געפרייט אַז ער האָט אויסגענאַרט דער גאַנצער שטאָט. קומט אָבער פאָר עפּעס אַ מעשה צי מען פּראָטעסטירט פאַר געוואַלדיקערס, צי מען מאַכט זיך משוגע איבער אַ בילד פון אַ פרוי, צי מען וויל פאַרברענען אַ גאַנצע משפּחה און עס שטעלט זיך אויס ואת ערום ועריה. נישט נאָר מיר האָבן נישט וואָס צו פאַרקויפן נאָר מיר קענען זיך קוים אויפעפענען דאָס מויל אָן צו זיין ללעג ולקלס. און אַלץ ווייל דער וועלט וויל אונז נישט פאַרשטיין. נאָר וואָס דען, זאָל דער וועלט מוחל זיין אַראָפּקומען קיין ברוקלין אָדער ניו סקווער און צוקוקן ביים מלמד דרדקי ווי ער לערנט שנים אוחזין בטלית וועלן זיי שוין אַלע איינזען אַז מי כּעמך ישראל.

נאָך איין נקודה און איבער דעם זאָלן זיי מיר באַשטיינערן: עס איז נישט אַ גרויסע חילוק צווישן דער טיפוש וואָס האָט זיך געשטעלט פאַר די פאָטאָגראַפירער און אויסגערופן אַז ער וווינט נישט אין אַמעריקע נאָר אין דזולאַנד און צווישן דער אַנדערע תנא קמא וואָס האָט זיך אויפגעשטעלט פאַר דער וועלט אַז אונזערע היסטאָריע פון פיר טויזענט יאָר געבט אונז רעכטן איבער אַנדערע און ווייל אברהם האָט שרהן באַהאַלטן אין אַ קאַסטן קענען מיר ווייזן אַ פייג פאַרן וועלט. היינו טעמא דשופר והיינו טעמא דמגלה. די נפקא מינה איז גאַנץ קליין צווישן דער מבין אויפן אַראַבער אַז מיט זיי העלפט נאָר כּוח און מיין מלמד וואָס האָט געזאָגט אויף די שוואַכערע קינדער אַז נאָר צו אַ שטעקן פאַרשטיין זיי. און דער וואָס וויל מיר באַשולדיקן מיט זעלבסט האַס זאָל מיר מוחל זיין ווייזן אין די צייטונגן וואָס פליסן איבער מיט אהבת ישראל אויף וועלכן זייט נומער ווערט באַריכטעט דער פּריוו אומצוברענגן אַ גאַנצע משפּחה פון היימישע יידן.

מיר זענען נעבעך די גרעסטע קרבנות פון אונזערע אייגענע היסטאָריע. דער גוי איז אַ פערד און מיר זענען די חכמים מחוכמים. בשעת ווען זייערע זיידעס האָבן זיך געוואַרעמט אַרום אַ פייער אין אַ הייל זענען שוין אונזערע עלטע באַבעס געגאַנגן רבינו תם תפילין. נאָר מיר ווייסן פון יושר און בלויז אונזערע געזעצן זענען ומשפטים בל ידעום מה שאין כּן טעות עכּו''ם מותר. דער וועלט האָט אונז פיינט און אַז שוין דען שוין. אונז טאָר מען נישט אָנרירן כּמלא נימה אָבער פאַר אַנדערע איז לנכרי תשיך. מיר האָבן אַ מדינה ומי יאמר לו מה יעשה. ובכן מיר האָבן אויך אַ שטעטל און אַז דו ווילסט מאַכן אַ מנין ביסטו חייב מיתה ווייל אַז עס געפעלט דיר נישט פּאַק דיר די געפּעק און ווער נעלם.

אַ דאַנק אַזאַ סאָרט גערעדעריי וווינען מיר מער נישט אין דער שאָטן פון די קאַרפּאַטישע בערג נאָר אין מערב לענדער וווּ מען לאָזט אונז זיין נאָך מער יידיש ווי עס האָט זיך אפילו געחלומט אויף באַרג סיני. דער אָ עודף איז אָבער אונזער גרעסטער דעפיציט. נחזיק טובה להפעדס אַז עס איז נאָך דאָ עמעצער פון וועם די כוליגאַנעס האָבן מורא. אין דער זעלבסטשטענדיקער ישראל איז דאָס נעבעך אויך נישט דאָ און טאַקע פאַרדעם איז זייערע עקסיסטענציעלע פּראָבלעם נישט די אַראַבער און פּאַליסטינענדער נאָר דבר ה' ותורתו.

לאָמיר מסיים זיין מיט אַ חז''ל. על מה אבדה הארץ? על שלא ברכו בתורה תחלה וסוף. ווייל אַז מען ווייסט נישט וווּ די תורה הייבט זיך אָן און ווען זי ענדיקט זיך קען דער לאַנד נישט האָבן אַ קיום.
Please if someone could translate this, its so true











in the Torah a whole city was slaughtered because they did not speak up when dinah was rapes and it was ok

why can't we use the same logic to skver

I don't go to hasidic rebbes for advice anymore because I don't like having to deal with the gabaim. Once I went to a rebbe and the rebbe gave a bracha that me and this woman should get married and afterwards the gabaim told me not to marry her. Gabaim overprotect their rebbes.
This is my basis for believing that maybe the skverer rebbe didn't know what happened until just before he went to the yeshiva to give musar to the bachurim. Let's wait and see if the skverer rebbe's musar works of not and see if the skverer rebbe's musar gets the bachurim and the rest of the community to stop harrassing the Rottenbergs.

Posted by: ויצא רוצח מגזע טווערסקי | May 27, 2011 at 01:27 PM

I trie to best of my ability to read this letter, it is heartrendering

The problem with skver is that the food in the yeshiva are overloaded with huge quantities of sugar and salt which causes the bachurim to be very hyper and do crazy things against breslevers and anybody else that they would like to get rid of.
They have a much bigger problem that their overprotected rebbe thinks that they are all zadikim and do not need a tikun for their averoth because they supposedly have no averoth.
The tikun that they need for their averoth is the tikun klali of Reb Nachman Brelaver who promises to shlep out of gehinom by his peot anybody who says tikun haklali by the gravesite of Reb Nachman Breslaver in Uman on erev rosh hashana.
But the skverer rebbe nebuch doesn't realize this and still nebuch does not allow his hasidim to have anything to do with anything breslev.
na nach nachma nachman mUman

How is it possible for chasidim to believe their Rebbe has Ruach Hakodesh & knows what is going on in any of their chasidim's bedroom or trousers all over the world. He also could predict earthquakes etc. Yet the same belivers have a lame argument that the Rebbe, hasn't got a clue what is happening next door, when he could smell the stench of fire in his own kitchen & hear the police , fire & ambulance sirens, and sees the bum hoise bocher didn't turn up for his slave duties of honor?
I don't buy this naivette, & I believe this is bad for Yiddishkeit & Klal Yisroel.
It is time for them to change regime like Egypt Tunisia & Lybia, & make the Rebbe give back all riches & real estate he profited from his corrupt leadership. That is my feeling I could be totally wrong.
BTW could someone post the Spitzer family twitter link here.
How are they allowed to tweet from Sqare?

"Whoever needs healing, God should send them healing, and they should come home healthy."

interesting. it implies that healing is for those who come home to Rebbe. whoever doesn't come home, perhaps they do not need healing.

"God should help that the shtetl [the village of New Square] should be at peace with one heart, with Torah and mitzvos and good deeds."

one heart, one place of prayer?

i think he's not wishing well directly to the victims because he does not unless they bend to his will.

"This horrific act, evocative of the Ku Klux Klan and Nazi Germany, culminated months of bigotry, harassment, and violence toward the Rottenberg family directed by the village's religious leadership headed by Grand Rebbe David Twersky."
א בושה פאר כלל ישראל
אז אזוי געריפערנער רבי ביי אידן

זאל האלטן א דרשה ברבים און ער זאל אפילו נישט דערמאנען די תורה הקדושה!!

ער זאגט אזוי!
1, 2 מאל איבערגעחזרט "איז קעגן אינזער דרך"
2, 2 מאל איבערגעחזרט "איז קעגן דער סקווערער דרך"
3, "עס האט נישט געדארפט פאסירן....... וד"ל"
4, "אז עס האט יא פאסירט"
5, "איך האב געהאט עגמות נפש"
6, "זאכן וואס קענען ברענגען צו עלימות"
7, "[נאכאמאל] לכאורה וואלט דאס נישט געדארפט פאסירן...."
8, "גערעדט פון זיין טאטן ז"ל"

און נאך זיינע געבלעבלערייען

אבער געוואלד! פין די הייליגע תורה האט ער נישט געוואלט דערמאנען אפילו איין ווארט!

צו זאגן אז אזעליכע מעשים איז נגד התורה, מאן דכר שמיה!

דער לא תרצח, לא תגנוב,
חילול שם שמים לעיני כל העולם,
און די אלע אנדערע עבירות.....
עקזעסטירט אינגאנצן נישט ביי אים?

It looks like the housebachur will plead guilty to reduced charges of attempted arson and will probably get off with probation and no jail time because the other members of the skverer cult have to know that anybody who burns down anybodys house goes to jail for many years for arson.
MAYBE WHILE IN JAIL HE WILL REALIZE THAT THE SKVERER REBBE IS WRONG AND THAT REB NACHMAN BRESLEVER IS RIGHT AND THAT HE COMMITED A HORRIBLE SIN TRYING TO BURN DOWN ROTTENBERG'S HOUSE AND THAT HE WILL GO TO GEHINOM FOR THIS SIN AND THAT HE WILL NEED REB NACHMAN BRESLEVER TO SHLEP HIM OUT OF GEHINOM BY HIS PEOT.
NA NACH NACNMA NACHMAN MUMAN

I forgot to mention that only bachurim in the yeshiva have beaten me up for being breslever. The adult hasidim have only harassed me in non-violent ways for being breslever such as chasing my car out of New Square and then having another car block me at the exit from New Square and tell me that they are the New Square police and that they are stopping me for speeding and going through stop signs. By the time this high speed car chase on the streets of New Square was finished by my escape from New Square through the gas station, my transmission was damaged by this high speed car chase and my transmission broke down a few days later.
na nach nachma nachman mUman

I was not present, nor have i ever been to new square, but it seems to me - listening to the recording (above), that the Skverer is silently weeping while he is addressing the issue. this how it appears to my ears...

Shabbat Shalom.

Coming from a person who thinks Sholom Rubashkin is a saint and who never, ever admits any wrongdoing by Chabad, and who never, ever has anything like an independent thought, I think most of us will have to take a pass on your 'understanding.'

The rebbe is weeping and crying. It sounds like he just found out about what was going on.
Down with gabaim who protect their rebbes from knowing the truthand knowing what is going on.
There are 3 rebbes that you can go to without having to deal with gabaim, the lubavitcher rebbe, the rivnitzer rebbe and the brevlever rebbe.
na nach nachma nachman mUman

The rebbe is weeping and crying. It sounds like he just found out about what was going on

He was NOT weeping and crying.

You are projecting your fantasies on him in order to protect your fragile yet cult-like faith in haredi Judaism.

i didnt hear any weeping or crying.

i didnt hear any weeping or crying.

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