Son Of Former Chief Rabbi Calls For Passover Sacrifice On Temple Mount

The annual attempts to resume the Passover sacrifice received a first significant rabbinical backing recently. Safed's Chief Rabbi Shmuel Eliyahu, a prominent Orthodox Zionist leader, has called on the public to perform the sacrifice mitzvah on the eve of the Jewish holiday, in about two weeks.

     

Rabbi calls for sacrifice on Temple Mount
Jews evading Passover mitzvah are risking supernatural punishment, warns Safed's Chief Rabbi Shmuel Eliyahu
Kobi Nahshoni • Ynet

The annual attempts to resume the Passover sacrifice received a first significant rabbinical backing recently. Safed's Chief Rabbi Shmuel Eliyahu, a prominent religious Zionism leader, has called on the public to perform the sacrifice mitzvah on the eve of the Jewish holiday, in about two weeks.

Speaking during a Halacha lesson in Jerusalem last week, the rabbi warned that Jews evading the mitzvah were risking "Kareth" - a supernatural punishment for transgressing Jewish Law.

According to Rabbi Eliyahu, there is a halachic, legal and public possibility to offer a Passover sacrifice these days. During the lesson, he quoted senior rabbinical authorities, adding that Rabbi Zvi Hirsch Kalisher – one of the founders of modern and religious Zionism – had asked the Turkish sultan to allot an area on the Temple Mount for the erection of an altar for a Passover sacrifice.

The Safed rabbi went on to say that the Passover sacrifice could be slaughtered in front of the Dome of the Rock plaza, although the Temple no longer exists and the people of Israel are defined as "tameh met" (in a status of impurity which comes from contact with a dead body).

In order to overcome the greatest obstacle, beyond the political problem, an altar must be erected, the rabbi said. He also called for the preparation of "priesthood clothes", which are the only ones in which Kohanim (priests) can perform their work at the Temple.
 
Mission possible

Addressing the legal aspect, Rabbi Eliyahu claimed that every person has the right to perform the commandment of his religion according to his own understanding. He added that petitions filed with the High Court of Justice against the sacrifice were accepted only because the police were unprepared to secure the ceremony.

"It's perfectly clear that if the public pressures its representatives in the government or in the Knesset, everything will change. If the judges have ruled that the police must secure simpler protests, why not the Passover sacrifice?"

Eliyahu rejected the claim that it was impossible to resume the mitzvah publicly. Addressing the international diplomatic ramifications, he said, "We are being threatened that any movement on our part on the Temple Mount will launch the third world war… (But) we can free our souls of the horror of the gentiles, just like we freed ourselves before the Exodus."

He rejected the internal opposition too. "Some fear the public echo of the Passover sacrifice – how will the seculars view it? What will the Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals say? The truth is that this should not even be discussed…

"We have already been scorned for the circumcision mitzvah, persecuted and condemned to death for that. Today the UN's health organization recommends that all men undergo circumcision in order to avoid illnesses."

Rabbi Eliyahu said the Torah had predicted that some would mock the sacrifice mitzvah. Such a person, he noted, is called in the Passover Haggadah, the "wicked son", who cleans his hands and says, "This doesn’t belong to me, this blood and primitiveness. I am an enlightened person. I respect animals. I don't slaughter them barbarically."

The rabbi estimated, based on the Bible stories, that those who oppose this mitzvah would eventually change their mind and join the Temple work.

'Break spiritual barrier'

In order to increase the motivation to offer a Passover sacrifice, Eliyahu noted that this is one of two "active mitzvot" (along with the circumcision), and that those evading it risk supernatural punishment and "cause great damage to themselves and to the entire world".

He added that his father, former Chief Rabbi Mordechai Eliyahu, wrote that this custom may still exist these days.

"These things should make us break the spiritual barrier preventing us from thinking about offering the Passover sacrifice," Rabbi Eliyahu concluded.

He said his remarks were not lip service, but laws being learned "as a real demand and real preparation for the Passover sacrifice. Although we are not used to it, and have gotten used to living without a temple, we must change our ways."

Comments

[alan finkelman]

At least some Rabbis have some balls, and are not scared of the the politically correct society. If the Torah says it, who cares what the" world" will say.

[jancsipista]

this guy is tottaly out of his puny mind he belongs in an insane asylem the sooner the better all theese so called rabbis are nothing more then attention seekers who are very dangerous since there are many nut cases who follow him and are ready to commit violence on his behalf unbeleivable how crazy a human can get.

[BibleBeltJew]

Jan, exactly where does one contribute to your Punctuation Fund? Secondly, do you have any idea about whom you are speaking or the ikur of the subject/ruling?

[yidandahalf]

These people are truly benighted. When they reach the world to come they will have much difficulty.

[YbM]

jancsipista
great posting, u made my day.

[Betzalel]

If the Torah says we should do it, then we should do it. Who cares what the world thinks.

[Maskil]

The Torah said to kill off all descendents of Amalek. The Persian Jews knew Haman's ancestry and did not try to kill him (even clandestinely) because they did not have enough political clout or sovereignty to get away with it.

That being said, the imperative will fall on all Jews in Jerusalem on the 14th of Nisan. A mechirat hametz style contract should be written up, and even if all else fails someone should show up with a lamb. The contract should stipulate that everyone upon whom the requirement falls is part of the habura (those going "in" on the bringing of that particular lamb), but limited to the number that would show up allowing everyone to partake in at least a kezayit. If skillfully written by a halachic expert, since the Israeli Capos controlling to Temple Mount won't let it happen everyone in Jerusalem will have made the "best effort" to bring it. (If successful, about 30 people will merit to partake.)

[ssalbo]

When the anti semites talk about a world jewish conspiracy, they are partly right...there is one; its of Jews against Jews. These so called "Haredim" want to anoint themselves as a new, hereditary priestly class with the right to redefine Judaism according to their tribal customs and medieval, literalistic, interpretations. They themselves should be declared non Jews and be forced to undergo re-education into their choice of Modern Orthodox, Conservative, Reform, or Re-Constructionist, movements, or be expelled altogether.

[Dave]

If Rav Eliyahu is so keen on the Pesach sacrifice, he should check out how the Samaritans do it- they do it every Pesach on Mt. Gezirim. It's very bloody.
If Rav Eliyahu guarantees to get the shoctim to receive extensive kendo (Japanese sword) training by authentic kendo masters, so as to minimize chance of mis-slaughter, I'll personally show up, ha ha :) ! (Hint, he'd probably never agree).

[Aleksandr Sigalov]

If Rav Eliyahu is so keen on the Pesach sacrifice, he should check out how the Samaritans do it- they do it every Pesach on Mt. Gezirim. It's very bloody.

You are totaly right, Dave!

While I 100% support restoration of the passover ritual, I can tell you right away that this yet another idiot rabbi has nothing but political agenda in mind.

Passover is personal holy day and there is no need to do it on the Temple Mount( or any other mount for that matter).

Original commandment is very clear and explicit in this regard.

Samaritans are indeed doing it more or less right (as far as I can tell from videos on YouTube, of'course)

[WoolSilkCotton]

What a strange God the frumma must have. He still needs animals to be slaughtered in order to please Him. How bizarre.

[RiverdaleApikorus]

I recently heard a dvar Torah here in my community from a Rabbi who defended animal sacrifice and then made the bizarre statement that " the ideal is human sacrifice(he referenced the Akadah) but we don't kill Humans". Maybe it's time to change religions...

[yidandahalf]

Agreed, according to them, one interpretation of Ein Sof is defined by the need to slaughter an animal in a ritualistic fashion. Is this not a limitation? I wonder if they sympathsize with sacrifices of Voo Doo practitioners. I look forward to their reply.

[ah-pee-chorus]

jancsipista -

you are right. and sadly they really believe what they say.

WSC-What a strange God the frumma must have. He still needs animals to be slaughtered in order to please Him. How bizarre.
so true....and only by certain special men wearing special costumes on a specially constructed altar. if only those who believed this could momentarily step out of themselves and see how silly they look from outside their box.

"There was a time when religion ruled the world. It is known as the Dark Ages.
- Ruth Hermence Green "

[Dovid]

Every single legitimate Rabbinic authority has banned this practice.

It's only those who seek to further an extremist Right Wing political agenda under the guise of Torah who advocate this sort of nonsense. Their motive is that they wish to provoke a conflagration.

And this Rabbi of Safed is among the worst of them all, with his constant stream of racist and extremist announcements.

[WoolSilkCotton]

APC, those same frumma will mock and ridicule the practices of all other religions.

I remember overhearing a group of Lubavitchers who once encountered some Amish. Later, they were talking about the Amish with ridicule, mocking their attire, customs and belief system. I couldn't believe what I was hearing them say.

If these frumma lunatics want to provoke an incident on the Temple Mount, they should be required to enroll their children in the Israel Army, and those children should be assigned to handle the Arab rioters when chaos inevitably happens.

[ah-pee-chorus]

WSC-

so true, and at least the amish force their kids to live in the real world and then make an educated choice as to whether they wish to remain amish, albeit with much psychological pressure.

[Aleksandr Sigalov]

APC, I hate to admit it but in this case you are correct.

Besides, it would be idiotic to compare Amishes with these POS "frumma".

Just by looking at how Amish people handled shooting at their school http://bit.ly/4ZmrSw gives them tons more credit over our pious friends.

Not to mention that Amish do not tend to cry "anti-amishism" every chance they get.

[Jeff]

I remember overhearing a group of Lubavitchers who once encountered some Amish. Later, they were talking about the Amish with ridicule, mocking their attire, customs and belief system. I couldn't believe what I was hearing them say.

Of course. This is who they are. My nephew ridicules Christianity, and has no clue as to how ludicrous he sounds. When I tell him, "Yes, but you believe... " he doesn't want to hear it. The irony is that his mother used to have him involved in Messianic "Judaism" (which he now claims he never "really" believed, but he rationalized it as vociferously as he now rationalizes Chabad). He's merely exchanged one messiah for another, yet he refuses to see it.

This is human nature. Religion is what you believe; mythology or superstition is what the other guy believes. You know this, WSC; I'm surprised you were surprised.

Just passing through.

[tooclose2detroit]

if this Rabbi is so convinced that he is correct, then let him go up there without the IDF to protect him-he should have a rope around his ankle, however, like the Cohanim that died on YK, so that, in the small chance that he is wrong, no one will have to risk their lives to retrieve what is left of his body when our "cousins" decide to bring him as a korbun.

[WoolSilkCotton]

Jeff, good to see you here!

You're right, I should not have been surprised. I remember thinking to myself "Are you f--king guys kidding me? Have you taken a good look in the mirror?"

[WoolSilkCotton]

TooClose, as usual, I agree with you.

[ah-pee-chorus]

to retrieve what is left of his body when our "cousins" decide to bring him as a korbun.

tooclose- how dare you insult muslims. they are a religion of peace. (of course if you disagree with them on this point they will kill you, but still...peace.)

[tooclose2detroit]

no, not them!-I meant my cousins Lloyd and Melvin-they are enforcers for Peta, and would absolutely destroy this Rabbi if he tried this-Please, I would never insult muslims!-I mean, who could EVER accuse them of violence??-But dont mess with Lloyd and Melvin.....

[steve]

It's very easy to say "Let's just do it!" Go ahead, build an altar on the Temple Mount and see how much bloodshed you will cause. Ariel Sharon merely visited the Mount and it led to two years of non-stop intifada with a death toll of over 1,000.

[ah-pee-chorus]

i heard about them. tell the boys i apologize.

i remember an interview with mike tyson after one of his knockouts when he said something like this about his opponent...."i wanted to punch his nose into his brain, i wanted to kill his unborn children....praise be to allah."

[tooclose2detroit]

well, the world is safe now-Mikey is busy raising pigeons-although, I would imagine that Vegas is giving odds until he forgets to take his meds and punches his wife through the wall-all in the name of Allah, of course.

[Jeff]

"Are you f--king guys kidding me? Have you taken a good look in the mirror?"

Yep. That's about the size of it.

[steve]

APC,

I believe the term Tyson used was "I want to eat his (Lewis') children".

[tooclose2detroit]

well, that would probably kill them also-he just didnt want to waste the meat.

[ah-pee-chorus]

steve -
that does ring a bell....pun intended.
i stand corrected.

[who knows]

One thing puzzling me in Rav Elyahu statement - why feels he should agitate others to do passover sacrifices on temple mount? Why not lead by example and go to Temple mount with a sheep for slaughter himself? How old is he? Why in all these years he rushed to get the mitzva and do it himself?

He reminds me mullahs who agitate children to explode themselves to get to paradise, but never try to do it themselves.

[Dave]

Aleksandr, I agree with your earlier posting about reviving the Temple sacrifices. However, I think the best idea would be to get the would-be shochtim training in Japanese sword skills, and also start building the Temple in a part of Jerusalem we already own, on some kind of moveable block system, and then start negotiating with the Palestinians and bring up the Temple in every negotiation, and publicize it, and make our re-building of the Temple alongside Al Aqsa mosque as a pre-condition of further negotiations. We have to "up the ante" with them.

[Maskil]

steve,

It's very easy to say "Let's just do it!" Go ahead, build an altar on the Temple Mount and see how much bloodshed you will cause. Ariel Sharon merely visited the Mount and it led to two years of non-stop intifada with a death toll of over 1,000.

Isreal has enough military power to keep this from happening, it's just too pussy-whipped to do anything about it. With the decline of the US dollar and the immenent demise of the US as a super-power, and maybe a little gumption no violence would have to occur.

who knows,

One thing puzzling me in Rav Elyahu statement - why feels he should agitate others to do passover sacrifices on temple mount? Why not lead by example and go to Temple mount with a sheep for slaughter himself? How old is he? Why in all these years he rushed to get the mitzva and do it himself?

He reminds me mullahs who agitate children to explode themselves to get to paradise, but never try to do it themselves.

Rav Eliyahu lives in Safed. When the obligation presents itself he will not be neglecting a positive precept with the punnishment of spiritual excision. His concern is for those who will be residing in Jerusalem on the eve of Passover. Other decisors have tried to deal with the issue by encouraging followers to be abscent from the area enough for the imperative not to fall on them, assuming they are too weak to do anything about it (and taking into consideration the political reality), so they would not risk having neglected this precept entailing severe spiritual consequences for doing so.

[Tom]

Sol Rosenbaum of Rat Mouth, FL. ( Boca Raton) has volunteered to do the ceremony provided he can have it on youtube so that his grandchildren can have it for posterity.

He already has picked out an outfit which will match the priestly garments. After the ceremony he will be offering a kiddush on the lower level.

[Dovid]

Maskil, nice excuse.

There are no "decisors" who agree with this putz Eliyahu. He's a racist, a coward and a hypocrite. One of the "little Rabbis" that R' Shach referred to, specifically, who have the nerve to pronounce on matters of life and death, but who don't even have the authority to posken on matters of kashrus (I believe that was the quote).

His pronouncements, whilst under the guise of Torah, have NOTHING to do with Torah. They are purely political decisions, based on his extreme Right Wing political views and his desire to stir trouble.

[Maskil]

BTW he's not a racist. His ruling against selling or renting to Arabs is purely in relation to the current political situation in the region. He has nothing against Arabs per se - he himself is an Arab.

There is nothing apologetic about the fact that the obligation to bring to korban does not apply to him, but only to those residing in Jerusalem on the eve of Passover.

Rabbi Kanievsky and other great decisors have already joined his call and have signed up for the order of lambs for the korban and the effort to make it a reality. You speak from pure ignorance, intolerance and hatred.

[And what's the deal with BTs unable to recognize the 'a' vowel in Hebrew and Yiddish anyway? There is no vowel 'o' as in 'dog' in those languages. It's either 'o' as in 'money' or 'wonder' or it's 'a' as in 'far'. Why do BTs of so many years still transliterate the 'patah' sound with the letter 'o' by writing "posken" (in lieu of "pasken") and "misnoged" (in lieu of "misnaged") etc.? What is the stem of the cognitive disconnect?]

[steve]

Isreal has enough military power to keep this from happening,

Are you ready and willing to put on a uniform and fight the Arabs? Are you ready to guarantee the safety of its citizens when the suicide bombers start attacking again? Very easy to sound tough when you are typing on a blog.

[seymour]

What a strange God the frumma must have. He still needs animals to be slaughtered in order to please Him. How bizarre.

Posted by: WoolSilkCotton | April 05, 2011 at 10:46 AM

Of course he needs it the proof is all around us. earthquakes, tsunamis, bad weather all over.

Her is very grumpy since he has not eaten in who knows how long

[Aleksandr Sigalov]

You know what, guys. This is really pisses me off!

So this rabbi in the article call to bring korban pesach. Good idea.

But like I said, why in God's name it had to be on the Temple Mount! I mean NOWHERE in the original text it says it has to be a Temple Mount.

The original text says, that is has to be a CONGREGATION. Meaning, a number of people enough to eat one passover lamb is what is needed.

But, whatever, let's say they do it on the Temple Mount and they do it this year.

Who is going to be chosen? I mean, the original text requires EVERYONE to do the korban. Not just selected few!

Or these rabbis, as usual, going to come up with some crafty gedolim "explanation" that one lamb is enough for the entire nation?

I'm freaking disgusted. I think it is better not to do korban at all, then do it the way these rabbis want to do it.

[Maskil]

Are you ready and willing to put on a uniform and fight the Arabs? Are you ready to guarantee the safety of its citizens when the suicide bombers start attacking again? Very easy to sound tough when you are typing on a blog.

Yes, I am ready and willing. It sounds like an honest day's work for an honest day's pay. And honorable too. I was a few blocks away when the bomb went off last week. No one flinched from the sound of the explosion. I couldn't believe three people called me to ask if I was okay. At first I didn't answer because I was embarrased. Then I did answer and said that I was critically injured and probably dead. (I mean seriously, I was either injured or not, calling me won't do anything. I derided one caller who "cared about me" for calling to make sure no one he "cared about" was injured. What a hearless asshole!) When I travel by bus I always sit in the middle and I'm the first to take a seat next to the uneasy Arab that no one's sitting next to. In the even that suicide bombings start again someone more worthy than me won't have that seat - generally chosen in the center of the bus for maximum casualties - but it's usually just a poor chap trying to get to work like anyone else but looking very uncomfortable because everyone's looking at him like he's Osama bin Ladin. I'm not just "typing on a blog" - I'm right here in the epicenter and I'm ready to take the place of the korban pesach if it comes to that - perfectly worthwhile trade. It took 40,000 korbanot to establish this country's independence (none of whom sought certain death, but all of whom understood the statistical risks).

Aleksandr Sigalov,

Already in biblical times, once the Temple was built on the Temple Mount, it was decreed that korbanot of any kind could no longer be brought at makeshift altars and could be brought only in the azarah area of the Temple (whether it is standing or not).

[Bklyn11230]

I thought it was an April Fool joke.

[Aleksandr Sigalov]

Already in biblical times, once the Temple was built on the Temple Mount, it was decreed that korbanot of any kind could no longer be brought at makeshift altars and could be brought only in the azarah area of the Temple (whether it is standing or not).

Yes, but since there is no temple of any kind anymore, the only way to fulfill this commandment is to do it somewhere else.

A local synagogue would be the perfect place for each congregation to do it, imho. Pefectly fits Exodus directions as well.

[Maskil]

No, it is still possible to do it there. The location still exists and the decree had no stipulation (and was in effect between the first two Temples as well. A local synagogue would be great, but it was set in ancient times and since then only idoletors and the Ethiopians (who were exiled from Israel, not Judea, and had been defying that decree) have made sacrifices in any place outside the location of the azarah, and the only way to fulfill the commandment is there (because any sacrifice outside the azarah is prohibited on the highest level).

You're logic is like a middle-aged man whose wife is hitting menapause and figures that since she's not childbearing it's only possible to fufill the commandment of progenating is with someone else, a local syangogue kiddush would be the perfect place to shack up, in his humble opinion.

[Maskil]

Upon closer analysis, you're logic is akin to a man whose wife is still capable of childbearing but she "has a headache," so he figures that since she's not available it's only possible to fulfill the commandment of progenating with someone else.

[Dovid]

Maskil, you just continue to show your ignorance on every front.

1. Kamatz is pronounced in Ashkenazi hebrew the way the letter "o" is pronounced by the English when they say "dog." Are you unable to distinguish between kamatz and patach?
2. In any case, "posken" is spelled with a vov holom, not a patah (or a kamatz).
3. Do you think Shmuel Eliyahu considers himself to be an Arab?
4. Show me where R' Kanievsky has joined his call. If this meeting is your evidence, it's a total distortion:
http://faceshuk.jewpi.com/members/JewPI/activity/571622/
The truth without the added lie to embellish it, is here:
http://www.thejerusalemlife.com/news/operation-korban-pesach

[Carpenter]

Rabbi Shmuel Eliyahu endorsed the navi sheker Nir ben Artzi

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:TwZjQyDfaYYJ:www.facebook.com/killtheintifada%3Fsk%3Dwall%26filter%3D2+shmuel+eliyahu+nir+ben+artzi&cd=7&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=au&source=www.google.com.au

[YbM]

Rav Eliyahu lives in Safed. When the obligation presents itself he will not be neglecting a positive precept with the punnishment of spiritual excision. His concern is for those who will be residing in Jerusalem on the eve of Passover.

really? he gets away with it merely by living in galilee? amazing. how did they 'launder'the following mitzvos de-oraisso?
יז שָׁלֹשׁ פְּעָמִים, בַּשָּׁנָה--יֵרָאֶה, כָּל-זְכוּרְךָ, אֶל-פְּנֵי, הָאָדֹן יְהוָה.
כג שָׁלֹשׁ פְּעָמִים, בַּשָּׁנָה--יֵרָאֶה, כָּל-זְכוּרְךָ, אֶת-פְּנֵי הָאָדֹן יְהוָה, אֱלֹהֵי יִשְׂרָאֵל.
טז שָׁלוֹשׁ פְּעָמִים בַּשָּׁנָה יֵרָאֶה כָל-זְכוּרְךָ אֶת-פְּנֵי יְהוָה אֱלֹהֶיךָ בַּמָּקוֹם אֲשֶׁר יִבְחָר בְּחַג הַמַּצּוֹת וּבְחַג הַשָּׁבֻעוֹת וּבְחַג הַסֻּכּוֹת וְלֹא יֵרָאֶה אֶת-פְּנֵי יְהוָה רֵיקָם. יז אִישׁ כְּמַתְּנַת יָדוֹ כְּבִרְכַּת יְהוָה אֱלֹהֶיךָ אֲשֶׁר נָתַן-לָךְ.

[YbM]

....why in God's name it had to be on the Temple Mount! I mean NOWHERE in the original text it says it has to be a Temple Mount.....

Aleksander, u are refering to a specific paragraph addressed to the israelites while they were in egypt. in deuteronomy 16:16-17 it says:
16 Three times in a year shall all thy males appear before the LORD thy God in the place which He shall choose; on the feast of unleavened bread, and on the feast of weeks, and on the feast of tabernacles; and they shall not appear before the LORD empty; 17 every man shall give as he is able, according to the blessing of the LORD thy God which He hath given thee.

The place which he shall chose, is the temple mount in Jerusalem.

[Aleksandr Sigalov]

Yes, but like I said, there is no temple there now - there is a mosque.

If that is your idea of a "chosen place", than... i dont know...

[Dovid]

The whole thing has nothing to do with Torah, it's just political.

These guys already "ruled" lying is OK, that "every last inch" of Eretz Yisroel is something you should die to hold onto (although for *some* reason, they only apply this to the West Bank, and not parts of Southern Lebanon that Israel once held), etc etc etc.

The notion that these are religious rulings by a legitimate religious authority is laughable.

[Daniel]

GOD said to sacrifice, we should sacrifice. I support it 100%, as long as they do it by GOD'S word.I know most will say you need a temple,but others did it in the Torah without a temple. I believe GOD is waiting for us to resume the sacrifices to show we are ready to finally pay attention to his word.

[Adam Neira]

I have it on good authority that the Third Temple will be built by the year 2050. The moves that need to be made on the political Rubik's Cube for this scenario to unfold are complex but achievable. However forcing the issue before its time will prove counterproductive. If the world witnesses righteous government emanating from the Holy City and peace and prosperity unfolds over time, then the nations will agree to the construction of the Third Temple. If the Jewish people collectively prove to be a "Light unto the Nations" and a nation of priests then they will earn respect and admiration for their service to humankind.

P.S. Scientists recently discovered that a Rubik's Cube can always be solved in 26 moves.