Rabbi Baruch Lebovits Released On Bail

Lebovits released after a perjury and extortion scheme was revealed earlier today that could have impacted his conviction of child sexual abuse charges.

VIN reports Lebovits was released on $250,000 bail this afternoon.

I posted the details of the extortion plot this morning here.

 

Comments

[JJJ]

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/brooklyn/brooklyn_da_charges_man_with_perjury_A3ts9X2vxcBHiUbnMYa42L

[leibish teitelbaum]

shemarya and nuchem rosenberg its time you hang yourself

[Shmarya]

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/brooklyn/brooklyn_da_charges_man_with_perjury_A3ts9X2vxcBHiUbnMYa42L

Posted by: JJJ | April 13, 2011 at 04:41 PM

I know. I posted that earlier as an update to my morning post.

[steve]

Parents, please watch your children extra carefully. Do not let them go to the mikvah unsupervised under ANY circumstances. Do not let them accept rides from strangers or even from their rebbes, no matter how long their beards are. We are living in a corrupt and dangerous society which is similar to Biblical Sodom and Gomorrah where the criminals are protected and the victims are vilified.

[Deremes]

On another i posted the following:

"I heard an unconfirmed rumor that BML is getting out on bail.

Posted by: Deremes | April 13, 2011 at 03:54 PM"

"Dersheker,

I'm sorry to disappoint you, but BML will be staying put for now:Posted by: steve | April 13, 2011 at 04:11 PM"

[frumbutsentient]

So let's see - we have three possibilities:

1 - The extortionist-informant was lying, put up to the crime by a chashuva rabbi (Samuel Kellner) to blackmail another chashuva rabbi (Lebovitz); and Lebotitz' female children played along also - in order to jail and ruin their father, and the accused rabbi was completely innocent - but the rabbi's daughter and the other rabbi/extortionist and his witness are rashioim; not likely, Or. . . . . .

2 - The extortionist really was not an extortionist - he was telling the truth; the daughter really was molested; and Lebowitz really was guilty - the baseline concern prior to today, Or. . . . .

3 - Or we could hit the JACKPOT with: Samuel Kellner being an extortionist and hiring liars to tell lies about Lebowitz in order to hurt him; but it turns out, Lebowitz REALLY WAS molesting his own daughter; the prosecution DIDN'T NEED other reports of foul play to help the case, so BOTH rabbis are guilty - one of extortion, perjury, and blackmail, and the other of raping his daughter repeatedly. Any of the above ways, Klal Yisroel "Wins" (Not!) Am Yisroel Chai!

[joeyd]

This is nothing new. the extortion case was a year long in the making. If BML gets a new trail there will be even more victims coming fwd and we'll have 2 scumbags rot in prison for a long time. Enjoy your gefilte fish for now BML

[mechl]

huh? how can anyone comment when they dont know the people involved? i happen to know all of the characters in this miserable sitcom. BML maybe yes maybe not. but definitely not with the witness who had him jailed. kellner is a lowlife par excellence - a goniff - a sex fiend - his kids are miserable failures - a menuval - it is a joyous day to see this piece of dreck arrested - kain yoovdu kol oyvey haShem - his alleged witness was the one that was also accusing rabbi Ashkenazi - one of the premier tzadikim of this generation - one of the most selfless people i am privileged to know. lupin of frumfollies is so mysteriously quiet. is he sick? or what? halevai - he deserves all the curses of the techecha. ym"sh vezichro together with kellner and nuchem rosenberg. hope that now NR true colors will come out.

[Boruch from flatbush]

SAMUAL KELLNER IS A BROTHER IN LAW OF SHIMON WIESER . Shimon wieser was the person who is responsible for the VIN ban. What a bunch of menuvalim

[Shmarya]

I reported that earlier today.

[Boruch from flatbush]

Thnaks Shmarya
די מערכה וואס שימעלע ווייזער האט געפירט מיט וואסאיזנייעס הייבט אן ווערן מער פארשטענדליך, דער מסור און מנוול קעלנער איז שימעלע'ס שוואגער, און שימעלע האט מורא געהאט אויף דעם טאג וואס זיין שוואגער וועט אויפגעדעקט ווערן!!!!

[ca]

Disgraceful situation no matter how you cut it.

[seymour]

Posted by: frumbutsentient | April 13, 2011 at 04:56 PM

what is this about his daughter I thought it was only a few boys who accused him

most likely kelner just took an opportunity to extort money and does not mean lebowitz is innocent

[Loshon Hora]

Is the Lubavitche Rebe going to rise & bring Kellner Matzos in Jail this year like he did for BML last year?

[Dutch]

Scott its time for you to leave gracefully.
I left a gun on your night table.

[Forty Eighter]

Now that things are starting to come into perspective it is time to analyze this matter further.

For all of you holier than thou people who expressed such concern for the poor victims of BML, it is time to quit the hypocricy.

I personaly know Rubin___, the "victim" who got BML locked up. He is one messed up kid if I ever saw one. He was doing hard drugs at age 12, before he even knew of BML. I am also aware that his father is a low life scumbag devoid of a soul the likes of which I have never seen. Anyone who interacts with him even for a short time immediatley senses that he is a filthy piece of crap.

For the record let it be known that Mr. Rubin______ victimized his wife and family much worse than the allegations they made against BML. He regularly pummled his poor wife and kid for years. I remember when some people tried to intervene to aleviate his wife's plight by helping Mr. Ruin___ set up a food business, with the hope that if he made a living he would lay off his wife. Predictably, that venture failed miserably.

As for Kellner, he comes fom a family of outcasts and low lifes. For a short time he was successful in business and bought respect in a few shuls. But each one of them ended up kicking him out anyway. He was just such a big piece of crap. Now he produced a whole new litter of lowlifes, ensuring that another generation will suffer from their decrepidness. The best service the Kellners can perform for the community is if they depopulate themselves. Either through attrition or by a mass suicide pact.

The third "victim", T is a poor lost soul. Coming from a poor disfunctional family. At one point I happen to have admired him for being a pretty decent kid under the circumstances, but by any subjective measure he has major issues. Whoever got him mized up in this mess victimized him far worse than what BML was accused of doing to him.

I am wondering if all you holier than thou types are now going to demand justice for these same victims.

[steve]

Forty Eighter,

No matter how much you try to smear the victims, it does not change anything in regards to BML. You admit that he's a pig and that he has had numerous sexual encounters with young boys, yet you are still arguing for his release. Nobody that I have spoken to that knows BML will claim that he is innocent or that the charges against him are false. Your attacks on the credibility of the victims are a desperate attempt to garner sympathy for a man whom you describe as a "pig". Whom do you think sexual predators like BML target regularly? The straight A students from the "best" families? Or the weak and vulnerable? Who is easier to groom? Besides I hear that the victim whose testimony led to BML's conviction is finally getting his life together and that his testifying was the best catharsis for him. Let that be a lesson for all sexual abuse victims, that speaking out is the best therapy!

[introspection-time]

someone should make sure to save all the incendiary post and comments on this blog and others of BML during this past few months---- will surely be something to hold up as we begin to reflect on our conviction-mentality these past several years.

It is time to let the real professionals take over the job of protecting our youths... not the ragtag lipner/rosenberg gang.

As someone who does not particularly respect orthodox rabbis - I have to say I am impressed with the restraint and conviction with which they held up these past few years. They may not be the best educated on dealing with convictions but they know how to smell a culture of bloodlibels and pogroms.

[Anon.]

Regarding Askenazi, I spoke to him about getting one of the boys help for drug treatment as the bais din stipulated. I saw him perjure himself on the stand. Nice mechel. With tzadikim like that we are in trouble.

[frumbutsentient]

seymour -

my bad. got my weingartens mixed up with my Lebowitz's. . . they all sound the same, ya' know. . . :-)

[Kmarna Rabbi]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhAxtebHbag

Baruch Lebovits Out of Jail & Samuel Kellner Arrested Bribed False Witness

[Loshon Hora]

Arthur Rubin, 64
I guess they neede space at the seder for this guy, so they let this one out on bail & house arrest.
As biyalik said we will have our own country with our own murderers rapists, robbers & common criminals. I once heard Byalik borrowed it from the Baal Shem Tov when he made chasidus.
Let us understand we are a nation & we have all kninds, we are humans & full of sin ourselves, no one is perfect.

[Yechiel]

Let's put emotions aside and think rationally...
Chassidim have a mentality that one of their own should not be prosecuted by the legal system. This is what all the fuss is about. The fact of the matter is however, that the majority of rabbis lack the knowledge and don't have the proper means at their disposal to deal with criminals or perverts. Some rabbis, perhaps, are even afraid of themselves... So the only way to rid ourselves of filth is thru legal channels. Detatch yourselves from your emotions and do the right thing והי' מחניך קדוש.
Many amongst us have their wires crossed and their priorities mixed up. It's high time that we face reality and call a spade a spade and treat him as such and stop glorifying 'talented' perverts.

Whilst it may be true that Shmarya and others have an agenda, nevertheless, people are becoming more aware that something is not quite right and change needs to take place rather soon.

Last but not least, let us not forget what our great rabbis have taught us; כל המרחם על הרשעים סופו שמתאכזר לצדיקים.
See: אורחות צדיקים, שער האכזריות and שער הרחמים.

[MW]

Steve. "He has had numerous sexual encounters with young boys"

Young ?? 17 years is young ?? Its time to cut the crap, whatever lebovitz did or didn't do it was conscientious.

[steve]

MW,

Why don't your cut the crap. One of his victims tesified that he was 16 when he abused him. He groomed and then sexually abused innocent young boys and for that he was convicted. Stop making excuses for this sexual predator. He's destroyed enough lives already.

[Lamdon]

Rashi, Avoda Zarah, Daf 15b line #40, believes that when a chold is raped by a man is not damaging to the child. But the man (Yid or Goy) that does it, will suffer a sin.

Please look it up.

[No Light]

48er - a child is still a child, whether he's from a poor family, suffered prior abuse, uses drugs etc. You seem to be saying "Meh who cares if poor, disadvantaged kids were abused? They're damaged anyway."

Lamdon - yeah, and it's fine to have sex with a two year old girl as well, nu? Luckily the real law does not make judgements on the basis of the thoughts of bronze age goatherds.

Gehenom awaits you both.

[MW]

Steve. O sorry he was 16, o my I give up, i hope you can find his pacifier he lost during the rape. :-(

[leibish teitelbaum]

remember shamarya is lying

[steve]

Lamdon,

Nonsense. Rashi is explaining the gemorah that states that it is forbidden to give your child over to a gentile to be tutored. Rashi gives two reasons: 1) Because the gentile may teach the child heresy. 2) Because they are suspected of pedophilia. Rashi notes that the gentiles were also commanded against homosexuality and he quotes the passuk from Bereishis that states specifically that man must cling to his wife (female), thereby deducing a woman and not a man. Any idiot can come on here and miquote a Rashi and give thousands of readers the wrong impression about child sexual abuse. Read the gemara maseches Gittin 57b about 400 boys and girls being led to Rome as captives on a boat that threw themselves overboard
in order to avoid being sexually abused by their captors.

I think it's time for a takkana that extends this issur to Jewish tutors as well.

MW, if you see nothing wrong with a man in his mid fifties having oral sex with a 16 year old, then you must be a pedophile yourself. Leaving religion aside and the toeiva factor (which must "frum" Jews scream about when the gays are discussed in the news), even if the 16 year old has homosexual tendencies, why would he be attracted to and consensually have sex with an overweight, repulsive 55 year old man? Adults having sex with minors is illegal for a good reason. There is no way that the minor can make a reasonable judgment when he or she are being groomed by these predators. What BML did to a countless number of boys is unconscionable and morally reprehensible both religiously and civilly. The same goes for other molesters of teens such as Moshe Eiseman and Ben Zion Sobel.

[OMG]

Forty Eighter,
To say that I am appalled would not be an overstatement, when we had our back and forth about my brother, you were much more analytical. Regardless that your hypothetical’s were farfetched, but, at least to the average person who doesn’t know my brother, my nice the victim, or me, some of your points might seem plausible. What really puzzled me is that your story was stitched together with many items, which were true. Nevertheless, in my view, it was all side stories, it does not take away from the real facts. Which stand on its merits.

By now, you must wonder why I am appalled. Well when we exchanged our views, I concluded that because you know more about my family than the average person does, therefore, you are in some way connected to my family. Now I see that you were able to layout some facts about BML case that again seems that you know more than the average person does. Therefore, it looks to me that you are active in defending molesters in the Chasidic community. That is appalling for the following reasons;

1. I have never ever seen you take the side of a victim, if you are an attorney and you always defend molesters in a court of law, I would say that is your job and each defendant have the right to the best representation. Nevertheless, you are not you decided to take their side on the blogs, why explain to us. Do you believe that child molestation is no big deal therefore; you would do whatever it takes to defend the aggressor, even if you cause more pain to the victim?
2. You are using the exact same method you tried to use with me. You use something, which is very irrelevant to my brother’s case, but you judge the merits of the prosecution with my copper civil case, and my alleged hate for my brother.
3. Again you try to make the BML case into a novel, I do not know what happened but I understand that it could be that either both of defendants are guilty, or just the convict BML is the only aggressor. The fact is that it is known everywhere, that BML is a molester, yes everywhere.
4. Lastly your post in the previous thread was kind obnoxious. Have a glass of wine and reread it, you will see what I am saying.

[MW]

Steve you dono wtf you're talking. Of course its everything wrong with a man in his mid fifties having oral sex with a 16 year old, its also everything wrong when a 50 year old does it with a 50 y/o. But to call him a pedophile only shows your ignorance.

"As a medical diagnosis, pedophilia (or paedophilia) is typically defined as a psychiatric disorder in adults or late adolescents (persons age 16 or older)
characterized by a primary or exclusive sexual interest in prepubescent children (generally age 13 years or younger)".

Do you get it now ??

Its a good question why they would do it with an overweight, repulsive 55 year old man, but that only proves it more that the money he gave them was worth for them to go along. So you cant call it "rape" either!!

[steve]

Call him a rapist or call him a pedophile, what he did to these boys is a crime and for that he was convicted. An adult having sex with a 16 year old boy or girl is statuatory rape. If he paid the boys for the sex only adds to the despicable acts, it does not detract from it. For you to come on here with your apologetics for this sexual predator is beyond disgusting. Now get lost you filthy pervert.

[MW]

I wont get lost, ill not let hasidic jew haters like you ride free here. Ill call him neither rapist nor pedophile, as i explain in my last post. He and the BOYS (until what age are they boys ?) are just 2 PIGS.

[Deremes]

MW,
"Of course its everything wrong with a man in his mid fifties having oral sex with a 16 year old, its also everything wrong when a 50 year old does it with a 50 y/o. But to call him a pedophile only shows your ignorance".

Forget about BML,but to say its equally wrong 2 fifty year old and a fifty year old with a 16 year old,you plain nuts.

[MW]

Deremes

Its not the same of course. Are you saying that 50 y/o with 50 y/o is something right ?

[Deremes]

MW,
Two fifty year old is wrong.

If you need to be explained that the "word" COMPARISON doesn't even fit here,something is seriously wrong with you.

Don't take me wrong,if you read my posts you will see that i have nothing good for those so called advocates.
You making almost sense as NR.

[MW]

Deremes
You're right i didnt mean to compare.