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April 14, 2011

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Dave

If he touched my wife, he would have had his hand cut off and stuffed down his throat right on that plane. Just ANOTHER SICK SON OF A BITCH SEX OFFENDER. How many women and young girls had he already molested before this incident. Sick bastard.

BeenThereDoneThat

The truth is that there are pervs in all walks of life. And they never think of the consequences, as they do what they do. That is one of the symptoms.

msmith

i am just surprised he groped a woman and not a young boy....oh wait hes not catholic

Dovit

Good luck getting the bastard back from Israel. Oldest trick in the book; ask for permission to travel to Israel. B/c people are generally afraid to say no (out of fear of being branded anti-religious/anti-Jewish), the wish is granted and the bastards never return. Israel certainly isn't about to extradite a Rabbi, either. When will judges learn?

tooclose2detroit

I wish she wouldve punched him in the head, or tried to rip his beard off his face.

Rochel

FYI - Her pulling the blanket over her head after the first "grope" makes PERFECT sense psychologically. The first time something happens where it is unexpected, and the other person denies it, a person will often doubt themselves and doubt their own reality at first. It is only after it happening a second time when it's "confirmed" in their reality, and then they realize that it also happened the first time, they get hit by the double-reality of both incidents. Her behavior is perfectly normal. ---Abracadabra

What Abracadabra wrote is correct. I have been groped on a number of occasions. The first time a specific person gropes you, you are startled. (This is especially true if the context is such that you wouldn't expect it - ie sitting on a plane next to a religious man vs. being in a bar.) You wonder if you might have misperceived it or if it might have been an accident. You doubt yourself, not wanting to make a false accusation. When it happens the second time you are then sure and can react with confidence. Also, no one can try to tell you that it was an accident because the groping had happened twice.

moshe

Loshon Hara - Tappanzee bridge! Lol! That's the first good comment I've ever read on this blog.

tooclose2detroit

Goyem, especially their women, exist to serve the frumma
WSC

I've been in more Yeshivas than Talumud Bavli, and I dont remember EVER being taught that goyishe women exist to serve frum men.-I dont remember much, but THAT I wouldve definitely remembered.

WoolSilkCotton

Goyem, especially their women, exist to serve the frumma. That is what the frumma are constantly taught. When a frummer tries to 'apply' this teaching, he ends up in jail, and doesn't understand why.

Y Hutner

That's why the Mehadrin bus keeps the genders seperated.
They don't want a bus ride, with all the women having to sit throuh the whole way, with all the Rabbi's hands at their crotch.

Abracadabra

FYI - Her pulling the blanket over her head after the first "grope" makes PERFECT sense psychologically. The first time something happens where it is unexpected, and the other person denies it, a person will often doubt themselves and doubt their own reality at first. It is only after it happening a second time when it's "confirmed" in their reality, and then they realize that it also happened the first time, they get hit by the double-reality of both incidents. Her behavoir is perfectly normal.

The pervert rabbi's behavior, on the other hand - is completely not normal and sickening. Why can't these sickos control themselves?

IH

she then “pulled her blanket back over her head and body.”

What doesn't make sense? The flight was packed, btw.

nobody

she got groped on her crotch and her response was to put a blanket on her head? The entire thing makes no sense, I really hope the guy didn't do something like this!

who knows

Either Rabbi or the woman is a liar. We may never know which of them is.

IH

I was on the flight. De-plaining was delayed for 30 mins while ~"law enforcement officers boarded the plane"~. They didn't tell us why, but I saw the (alleged) pervert on the jetway when we left. Didn't hear about what happened until I was on the immigration line and someone in the next row over from the incident told me. I was wondering whatever happened...

Another success story for the "shomer negiah" obsessed.

Loshon Hora

Didn't they rename a NY bridge after the story?
Tap-On-zie [tap on her]
Oh they renamed the Rebbe Tap-on-zie Rebbe.

steve

This "rabbi" must be a talmid of this fellow:


http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Feds-Sickening-Sex-Assault-of-Sleeping-Woman-On-Airplane-119708069.html

ah-pee-chorus

maybe he's setting up for the sleepgroper defense.

tooclose2detroit

also-if you say that you are asleep, uhh, doesnt that mean you are.....not asleep??kinda like Yosarrian's plight in Catch 22?

Nigritude Ultramarine

“What are you doing, stop touching me,” she told Bidany. He replied, “It’s a mistake, I’m asleep,” according to Ambrisco.
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adam mu'ad le-olam -- whether [he acts] inadvertently or willfully, whether awake or asleep.

Bava Kama, 26A

tooclose2detroit

I guess after all it wasn't such a chilul Hashem. I was on the plane with a Belzer Dayan, they seated him next to a female, he refused to sit down & delayed take-off until they found him another seat
LH

I woulda thrown him off the plane if i were the flight crew.-if you want to make sure there are no women next to you, then buy 2 seats together. I dont, in my humble pinyan, believe he had the right to do that.

effie

About 16 years ago Rabbi G the P rebbe of BP along with his gabbe was accused of doing the same on a flight for Melbourne to LA.

That made me sick. It was a young girl, maybe 15 years old, traveling alone. An older woman across the aisle saw her in distress and called the flight attendant.

tooclose2detroit

Alternatively, he could go to work for the TSA. They are good at groping.

Posted by: Catcher50

That woulda been my second defense-He thought that she was hiding a weapon-youre pretty good!-we can be partners!

Laisdinlaisdayan

What was this guy up to for the first 47 yrs of his life? Any hint of misbehaving?

Catcher50

Alternatively, he could go to work for the TSA. They are good at groping.

tooclose2detroit

defense shoulda been, he lost his contact lens-and without the contact lens, he couldnt see what he was touching-damn, i shoulda been a lawyer.

Lamdon

In the Torah it says that the transgession is -- GILU AROYOS --, or L'Galois Erva.
That means that you should not uncover her private area. The Rabbi only stuck his hand underneath the covering.

Maskil

accusations do not a criminal make.
Innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.

A false accusation of sexual assault is also a criminal offense. In as much, conversely, the alleged victim is also innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Or is it "Skank until proven innocent" in your version of US justice?

ah-pee-chorus

This is all allegations taken from a non-journalistic website. It's not worth the cybertoilet paper it's written on

are you insane? there was an arrest and a copy of the criminal complaint is posted.

tooclose2detroit

there is an FBI report at the top of this article-are you proposing that it is a forgery????

Garnel Ironheart

This is all allegations taken from a non-journalistic website. It's not worth the cybertoilet paper it's written on until there's any actual proof.
But then there will be hell to pay.

tooclose2detroit

true, but in yeshiva they told us that all the stories about the chofetz chaim arent true, but they dont tell them bout me and you-these things keep happening....

Gevezener Chusid

accusations do not a criminal make.
Innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.

Zalman Alpert

About 16 years ago Rabbi G the P rebbe of BP along with his gabbe was accused of doing the same on a flight for Melbourne to LA.
I think the airlines should have separate seating for Charedim on planes.

Yoily Weiss

Not to accuse the woman of lying, but I'm skeptical. Women have been known to make up these stories when they were insulted. Perhaps the "Rabbi" made her stand up too many times so that he can use the restroom.

I'm also fed up with the automatic rabbinic ordination of any Jew accused of a crime. I've been studying for a 3 years to become a rabbi, and I have yet to be ordained. Must I commit a crime?

Or is it enough to just sit next to a woman on a plane...

mmm

250k for a touching..

tooclose2detroit

what makes me wonder is why she didnt go to the flight crew when it happened the first time-she waited until he touched her again-tough for me to imagine her "letting it slide" the first time.

Loshon Hora

I guess after all it wasn't such a chilul Hashem. I was on the plane with a Belzer Dayan, they seated him next to a female, he refused to sit down & delayed take-off until they found him another seat. They tried telling him that in the air he would be allowed to change, but to no avail.
I guess he didn't want a story like this made up about him, which is a greater Chilull Hashem, & blogger bait, although I think that was B4 bloggs.

jay

I think you just created a great opening for YL to do a takeoff: "Dude Looks Like a Rabbi"

tooclose2detroit

just kuz the dude is called Rabbi, doesnt mean he really is one-everyone is a "Rabbi" in Israel.

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