Exclusive: Another Haredi Ban
An unsigned wall poster in Brooklyn bans visiting the haredi founded and run Living Torah Museum in Borough Park because men and women wait in line together.
Rabbi Shaul Shimon Deutsch, also known as the Liozna Rebbe, founded a well-regarded museum years ago in Borough Park, Brooklyn, New York.
Called the Living Torah Museum, it focuses on artifacts from the biblical and mishnaic eras in Israel.
This week, unknown haredim banned going to the museum, because men and women wait in line together:
such a pretty border.
Posted by: azi | April 17, 2011 at 11:18 AM
Advertising ploy.
Posted by: Yoily Weiss | April 17, 2011 at 12:18 PM
If it is unsigned why would anybody follow it? If it turns out to be an issue with legs then all they have to do is split the line. Problem is that over yom tov it will be mostly children and if they are very young you can't practically separate the boys from the girls especially if only one parent happens to be with them.
Posted by: Leah | April 17, 2011 at 12:39 PM
Can't blame them.
What happens if Rabbi will stick his hand underneath the covering onto some lady's crotch. He will then say, that he thought he was padding an animal to determine whether it is kosher for Korbonos or perhaps it has a Mumm.
Posted by: Y Hutner | April 17, 2011 at 01:08 PM
No one should go to the bank or take out food store, unless they have a separate line for each gender.
Posted by: Doresh el HaMeisim | April 17, 2011 at 01:27 PM
All of Borough Park is a museum of a people that have long ago lost their minds and still live as if this is 18th century Europe.
Soon, the frumma will shut down the Living Torah Museum, or burn it down.
Posted by: WoolSilkCotton | April 17, 2011 at 01:35 PM
if this site is focusing on unsigned leaflets dropped in bp, there won't be room for anything else.
Posted by: martin nerl | April 17, 2011 at 01:47 PM
I wish I could afford to obtain Rabbi Deutsch's writings on the 7th Grand Rabbi of Lubavitch.
Posted by: itchiemayer | April 17, 2011 at 02:24 PM
This supposed ban must surely be the work of the museum itself. Nothing turns people on as defying a ban. Imagine, visiting the museum, doing something productive, educating your children, and at the same time violate a taboo. This is what we live for.
Posted by: American Justice | April 17, 2011 at 03:08 PM
The folks in Brooklyn are horny little bastards. All of them. Exhausted and still dripping wet from the mikveh, Yankel (or so he says) headed straight to the museum to stand on line on a chilly April afternoon. I took pictures on my kosher iPhone of this and the lewd behavior that followed and headed straight to the nearest bais din for permission to talk about it. They took my iPhone and told me to go fuck myself so here I am.
Posted by: What kind of goyishe name is Harold z"l? | April 17, 2011 at 03:27 PM
Doresh el HaMeisim
The bank doesn't pretend to teach Torah. The "Torah" museum shouldn't be compared to a grocery.
Posted by: MW | April 17, 2011 at 03:45 PM
MW...
WE KNOW....
but doresh el hameisim was making a damn good point.
so shut up
Posted by: ruthie | April 17, 2011 at 04:00 PM
This museum is 'teaching Torah', so it needs separate lines?
You gotta be kidding.
From looking at their website, it has some ancient artifacts which are interesting, some old hand-cranked gadgets which supposedly show the 39 labors of Shabbos (none of the gadgets are anything sacred in and of themselves), and some pictures of rabbis from the past.
For this you need to separate men from women? How bizarre.
Posted by: WoolSilkCotton | April 17, 2011 at 04:07 PM
the guy who runs the museum is nuts not saying I am pro banning he openly praises Saddam Hussein for lending him some artifices I heard that being blasted over the loudspeakers at his museum years ago
Posted by: The Real Joe | April 17, 2011 at 04:15 PM
WSC, you must always separate men and women. Women must be covered except for their faces and hands. If men and women are anywhere near each other they will rut in the streets. Women should not drive. If they have sex outside marriage they dishonor their families and commit a crime worthy of death.
And we're supposed to believe Judaism is superior to Islam. How, exactly? Because we can drink booze?
Posted by: A. Nuran | April 17, 2011 at 04:30 PM
Nuran, LOL!
Posted by: WoolSilkCotton | April 17, 2011 at 04:50 PM
WSC,
Even if the museum instituted seperate lines for men and women, It would still be impermissible to enter so long as they don't segregate the animals on display according to gender.
Posted by: Letz | April 17, 2011 at 08:18 PM
Men in Brooklyn have no interest in women sexually. I have been warned of a huge earthquake there within the next few weeks (before Shavuot so as not to disrupt Matan Torah). I assume this is because the rabbinical pygmies (R' Kahane referred to them as such) can't (read won't) get their house in order. This is when Hashem brings earthquakes (Sanhedrin 18a). I hope I am not wrong about this.
With a heavy heart, I must also say (at great risk) that I think that as good as they are, Shmarya and Failed Messiah can and should do much more. He has become way too soft lately sitting on stories because of some paranoic fear. Perhaps he has doubts (again) or is being paid to look the other way (I know I have been and rejected it). I hope I am wrong about this.
Posted by: What kind of goyishe name is Harold z"l? | April 18, 2011 at 02:47 PM
WoolSilkCotton, to say "All of Borough Park is a museum of a people that have long ago lost their minds and still live as if this is 18th century Europe" is to unjustly malign 18th century Europe.
Seriously--the European communities just weren't this nuts.
I once opined to my rov that if reproduction weren't a mitzvah medaraita, there are those who would stop. He replied with a smile, "I could say something...." (That's one statement I plan never to ask him to explain.)
Posted by: 58th-Century Jew | May 16, 2011 at 12:34 PM