Agudah To Hold Meeting On Molestation – Without Experts

"Molestation Issues and Reporting: Halachic and Legal Overview” to be held without experts. Only two Agudath Israel of America rabbis will speak. There will be no experienced prosecutor, lawyer, therapist, child advocate, or recognized rabbi-posek who will speak. The Jewish Board of Advocates for Children will protest the "cruel farce and hoax" and Agudah's continued "cover-up."

 

Eliot Pasik writes:

Sunday, May 15, 2011, Jewish Board of Advocates for Children will protest at the Brooklyn Marriott, while Aguda Rabbis Chaim Dovid Zwiebel and Shlomo Gottesman are publicly speaking to 500 orthodox professionals on, "Molestation Issues and Reporting: Halachic and Legal Overview.”  The source of the problem will pontificate about the problem. What a cruel farce and hoax! There will be no experienced prosecutor, lawyer, therapist, child advocate, nor recognized rabbi-posek who will speak. The cover-up and obfuscation continue.  And so will the protest. Its an outrage.

Comments

[steve]

Who said Zwiebel is not an "expert"? After all, he makes some of the most brilliant statements to the media. Here's a few of these priceless gems which are by now oldies but goodies:

1)“The district attorney should be careful not to be seen as making a power grab from rabbinic authority.”

2)On a proposed mandatory reporting law in NY:

"This would be an 'unconstitutional' law," said David Zwiebel, the Agudah’s executive vice president for government and public affairs. The group is working behind the scenes in Albany to defeat it.

“It is a sensitive issue now especially with some of the attention that’s been focused on allegations within our own community,” he said. “The last thing we want to be seen as is obstructing whatever legitimate inquiries may be made among our own rabbinate.

3)Prosecutors should recognize “religious sensitivities in the community” by seeking alternatives to prison, to avoid depriving a family of its breadwinner, or by finding appropriate Orthodox homes for children removed from abusive families.

4)“What’s the phrase, Mea Culpa?” Rabbi Zwiebel asked the crowd. “We have to acknowledge for quite a long time the issue was not understood; the extent of the problem was not understood; the severity of the scars that are left by the experience were not understood. Because they were not understood they were not dealt with properly,” he said. “We are a lot of smarter, including the Gedolei Yisroel who stand at the helm of Klal Yisroel. A number of positive steps have been taken and, frankly, I think there are more positive steps that need to be taken.”

[steve]

I'm surprised they're not rolling out their usual resident "expert", David Mandel of Ohel.

[seymour]

and this is news

[mark meyer appel]

steve

the community is beginning to catch up on theese phonies mandel, pelcowitz. greenwald
some who get 2500 dollars per speech.
a new awareness is reaching the masses

[steve]

$2500 per speech to tell parents not to call the police when a child is sexually abused? Another $300K per year from Ohel as chief molester protecter? Nice work if you can get it.

[Sickened by the BS]

Why is everyone shocked on this? The RCA did the same thing, along with several other orthodox organization. They make a mockery of those who have dedicated their lives to protecting children and unsuspecting adults.

[Sickened by the BS]

some of the other clowns include Eliot Pasik. How many cases has he really represented in which he won? Also isn't he a member of the group that professes that PAS is a real syndrome?

[A. Nuran]

Steve, it's only nice work if you're willing to break every mirror you own and have your loved ones bury you in asbestos underwear.

[Sam]

You don't need an expert lawyer lecturing you on what New York state laws are regarding reporting of suspected molestation. Any lawyer has the ability and competence to do the legal research and advise appropriately.

[A. Nuran]

Ditch the regular program. Give Andrew Vachss the mike and lock everyone in the room with him.

[Moshe aron Kestenbaum, Williamsburg ODA]

Another show trial like they used to have in the Moscow Trials were they had show trials conducted in the Soviet Union and the outcome was pre planned . Who does the agudah fool? The agudah only fool themselves, they fool the people, they fool other jews, or they think they fool other jews Mr agudah you guys only fool yourselfs the agudah is going to be (even more) phony . My advice to the agudah is if you cant handle this, if molestation cases are a fiasco for you, THEN GET THE HELL OUT OF THE KITCHEN dont stick you nose in if you cant wipe the shit off

[Yasher Koach/SupportTheSurvivors.org]

Here's the link with all of the relevant rally information:

https://www.facebook.com/?ref=home#!/event.php?eid=141358505934913

[Garnel Ironheart]

What do they need experts for? They have Daas Torah.

[Sickened by the BS]

I'm not impressed with Vachss. Let's see them get one of the top experts in the field. Let them get Bessel van der Kolk.