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March 23, 2011

Tonight: Sholom Rubashkin On CNBC's American Greed

Rubashkin Court Angry CNBC's American Greed profiles Rabbi Sholom Rubashkin, the former VP of Agriprocessors.

 

Rubashkin Court Angry

10 pm Eastern / 9 pm Central on CNBC.

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i don't know why...but i'm going to try and watch it. i hope it's not boring. i mean...i do live in monsey and this is everyday stuff.

Ruthie, let us know how it was.

I watched the episode about Shalom Weiss today (via the link posted in the previous article) and she show seems well made. It held my attention.

oh my g-d, the show is great...mesmerizing.
very very very well done.
it's only 10:37 so i have another 20 minutes to go.
very very well done.
hey s...you are handsome

One fact from this show is that Guy Cook is more full of shit than anyone. What a shill. Guy you asswipe, the bank was happy to do the loan because your scumbag client and his shitass father were lying about their a/r. They were floating cash like it was monopoly money. And you think that the bank got their money for free. Bottom line your kike clients tried thir boro park shtick out in hickville and got caught. Those arrogant pricks could have taken the plea and not rely on asswipe attorney bullshit Linda Reade is a saibt she will get more oilem habah than every rubashkin combined including that pederast faggot up in albany.

Rubashkin isn't a rabbi. Don't write misleading headlines just to make frum people look worse

SHMARYA- GREAT JOB!! YOU SOUNDED GREAT AND FAIR.

good show.

scott-- rumor has it that you begged to get onto the show. any truth ?

shmarya u r a self hateing jew

Rubashkin isn't a rabbi.

Yes he is. He even worked as a Chabad rabbi for a bit before he went to Agriprocessors.

Before I get to my take on the show, let me give kudos for Shmarya, you were great, loved every minute of your appearance.

As to the show itself, I think it was informative, as much you could during a one-hour show. What peeked my interest, the fact is that Rubashkins lawyer never mentioned in the exposé, that the whole prosecution was an Anti-Semitic act, and furthermore, not a peep about Judge Reade Anti-Semitic behavior. Is it that he knows that all the accusations made against the Judge and the prosecution’s team is nothing more than BS? They will use the Anti-Semitic card only in the orthodox communities, for fund-raising purposes. I say yes, and any rational person will agree with my POV.

Shmaryah,

Just a suggestion...

Could you make a YouTube version?

Or at least YouTube with the part where you speak...

Thanx ;)

This was an excellent general summary, but, IMHO, two hours would have been necessary to provide more in-depth detail, especially more details of why PETA had to do the undercover video, complicity of the OU, KAJ, R. Weissmandel and others in aiding and abetting the criminal behavior of the RCF, how the RCF methodically ruined Postville, treated the gentile population with contempt and why this saga is the worst instance of Hillul HaShem in Jewish American History.

It was very nice that the FM Webmaster was included and he did a first-rate job.

shmaryah....you were good. when i saw you, i felt i was seeing a friend!
it was very good.
it was NOT anti-semitic...that's the defenses my friends here use.
oh please!
rubashkins were greedy and did not take care of their workers and even koshered the meat the wrong way.
if i were rubashkin, i would be so grateful TO my workers, i would, with no doubt, treat them as human beings.
just...just only how he treated them...says enough.
and the shoddy paperwork! he's human; we all made mistakes but when someone is making that much money....they better be military precise.

++OMG | March 23, 2011 at 10:25 PM++

Good points!

My take is that in the minds of the producers, and probably the general public, all the antisemitic baloney, as well as the animal cruelty issues, weren't what the public saw as most loathsome. The fact is, he is a filthy sleazy crook, and that's why he will remain in prison for a very long time, where he belongs.

Shmarya, you could have mentioned all your virtual friends here on FM to the nationwide audience...a shoutout would have been nice (just kidding!)

The Rubashkins have brought shame on all of us. Their enablers in our community are dense, just dense.

and i'm shocked...i'm not using this word lightly...really shocked how my friends here....are really DENSE. they honestly believe that he did no wrong. not kidding.
these are prominent women..chabad...and not chabad...who think this way. nothing you could say will change their minds.
brainwashed!

sage is absolutley correct. the OU ad ka$h-R-u$ is the scaffolding upon which this entire corruption was founded and ran. Without some explantation from that perspective the coverages was incomplete. There was no mention of the PETA work in Gordon or the "buy my car and you can work" racket. Of course we have to consider time constraints and the cost of such a production which would be prohibitive.
All in all it was good, it got the job done, albeit not to the extent most of us would have liked.
Shmarya was probably the most well spoken and presentable of all those taking part; his presentations were extremely well done.
Did anyone see the black Nazi era cartoon of a Jew on the American Greed green home screen in the very, very beginning? It lasted only a second?

What amazed me is there were no yamulke-wearing Jews on the show that provided ANY defense for Rubashkin's actions. That was a very wise presentation from the producers of this documentary. Shmarya was obviously Jewish and was quite gentle in his reporting on Rubashkin's history and the very obviously Orthodox Jews were totally critical of Rubashkin. What would have made the show VERY controversial is if they would have shown a few Yiddish speaking hareidim who would pull the "anti-semitic" card.

I watched it and learned a few things, and was reminded of things I knew, but did not consider before. I never knew that prior to the raid Rubashkin recieved numerous notices from both state and federal agencies in the form of "no match letters." In fact, I wasn't aware that the government tracks such things. I never considered that in order to pull off the bank fraud, Rubashkin had to defraud his customers and double bill them, thus exposing them to serious liability in the event of a default on the loan. Those customers, kosher food purveyors, most definitely included many Jews. As such he conned his own community; which from his perspective (not mine, mind you) is far worse than conning non-Jews. That renders him a hypocrite in addition to being a criminal. It further reinforces my belief that the outpouring of assistance to him from the Orthodox community is a tragic waste of resources.

On a related note, Shmarya came off as rather low key and generally balanced, especially when he acknowledged that Rubashkin, while living nicely did not live extravagantly and that he did give a great deal of charity. That's a far cry from the scandal mongering and innuendo peddling he often resorts to on this blog. It would behoove him to be at his best here as he was on television.

Given that there was only one hour, the producers had to make very tough decisions about what to show. And I believe their decisions were correct. In particular, I find their decision to emphasize the rapes of female employees to be particularly praiseworthy, because this aspect of Agriprocessor's conduct has not received the attention accorded to its financial conduct and its employment of illegal aliens.

As to those Rubashkin supporters who allege he was ignorant of what was going on in his plant and who make much of his acquittal on charges of employing child labor, ignorance is exactly what many "historians" have attributed to Hitler. As they would have it, Hitler had no idea what his subordinates were doing in concentration camps all over Europe. How unspeakable that Jews should mimic historical revisionism in such a manner! The plain fact is, that Rubashkin was saved from conviction on those child labor charges by the strictness and fairness of the legal processes that he denigrates in his appeal.

I watched it and learned a few things, and was reminded of things I knew, but did not consider before. I never knew that prior to the raid Rubashkin recieved numerous notices from both state and federal agencies in the form of "no match letters." In fact, I wasn't aware that the government tracks such things.…

On a related note, Shmarya came off as rather low key and generally balanced, especially when he acknowledged that Rubashkin, while living nicely did not live extravagantly and that he did give a great deal of charity. That's a far cry from the scandal mongering and innuendo peddling he often resorts to on this blog. It would behoove him to be at his best here as he was on television.

Posted by: DBSesq | March 24, 2011 at 08:42 AM

I reported on those no match letters many times.

Similarly, I have always said the stories about the Rubashkin's generosity are mostly true.

The problem is that you and many others come here with a preconceived notion of what I am and what I do, and you therefore miss the nuances.

Shmarya since I generally agree with your take on the Rubashkin matter (although for reasons of how I understand and believe public policy should be, we may part company on the length of his jail sentence), I never payed close attention to your writings on the subject. For me, it seemed, they would be "preaching to the choir." So I won't respond to your assertion that you reported on the no match letters etc. I have no reason to believe you didn't do so.

As to pre-concieved notions, we all them I suppose. But my views of this blog are influenced by what I read here. I stand by what I said. Your performance on America Greed demonstrated that you are aptly capable of presenting a high class product which makes a powerful point. I'd like you to do that all the time.

I never payed close attention to your writings on the subject.…But my views of this blog are influenced by what I read here.

I think if you had paid closer attention to what I write, you would have different views of me.

""""Rubashkin, while living nicely did not live extravagantly and that he did give a great deal of charity. """"

The reason for this is the Tanya. Non-Jews are sub-human, only Jews are human.

One can see this behavior in past societies
One the slave owners of the South the other... [do I have to mention it]

It wasn't his money to give to charity.

I never payed close attention to your writings on the subject.…But my views of this blog are influenced by what I read here.

I think if you had paid closer attention to what I write, you would have different views of me.
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This is precisely what I mean by my criticisms of your style. Indeed I did write both sentences. But what I wrote and what you selectively quote are vastly different.

Anyone knows when it will be available on CNBC again or anywhere else to view?

About the no-match letters: They were a Catch 22. The Feds did send Rubashkin any number of letters stating a no-match situation, the Rubashkins then asked the Feds to whom they were referring and the Feds said they couldn't tell them because that would violate the 'violator's' privacy.


SHOW TIMES
Episode 45: The Slaughterhouse

Saturday, March 26th 8p | 11p | 3a ET
Sunday, March 27th Midnight | 3a ET
Wednesday, March 30th 9[ | Midnight ET

About the no-match letters: They were a Catch 22. The Feds did send Rubashkin any number of letters stating a no-match situation, the Rubashkins then asked the Feds to whom they were referring and the Feds said they couldn't tell them because that would violate the 'violator's' privacy.

Posted by: JFin NE | March 24, 2011 at 02:03 PM

Please.

Agriprocessors' own attorney sent Rubashkin a letter telling him the company was vulnerable for a raid and that he was vulnerable for prosecution if he didn't take care of the "no match" problem. Rubashkin had done nothing for many months at that point, which upset the attorneys.

The raid happened 6 weeks later.

The fact is most of the pro rubaskin jock straps are ignorant about the law, what crimes he was convicted of and why he is in the can. Thw bitch and moan about the livestock law bubba maisehs and the labor laws he was "not guilty" of. These potsers, even lawyers themselves, don't understand the difference between the state violations - misdemeanors all - which he was found not guilty of, and the federal charges that were withdrawn without prejudice. And truth be told it is a complex case. Bottom line he was convicted of bank fraud. Good old fashioned embezzling, which covers all the phony invoices he borrowed against, all the money laundering and check kiting, basically all the shtick your average shyster finds so easy to do.

We are looking forward to viewing the profile piece alongside dear friends, tomorrow evening.

:)

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