Haredi Rabbi Bans Women From Teaching 10-Year-Old Boys

A woman teaching 10-year-old boys is compromising their chastity, according to Holon's Chief Rabbi Avraham Yosef, son of senior Sephardi adjudicator Rabbi Ovadia Yosef. “A woman can teach boys so long it takes place in a large area with no risk of her being alone with the pupils' fathers, up to the third grade and by no means beyond. This means the age of nine, perhaps a bit more... but fourth grade and higher would be considered a woman standing before boys who understand, and that is promiscuity and totally prohibited."

Rabbi forbids women from teaching 10-year-olds
Rabbi Avram Yosef, son of Ovadia Yosef, responds to question as to whether a woman can prepare a boy for his bar mitzvah.
By JONAH MANDEL • Jerusalem Post

A woman teaching 10-year-old boys is compromising their chastity, according to Holon's Chief Rabbi Avraham Yosef, son of senior Sephardi adjudicator Rabbi Ovadia Yosef.

In an answer to a listener's question during his program on haredi radio station Kol Hai if a woman could prepare a youth for his bar-mitzvah Torah reading, Yosef took the opportunity to set the boundaries for pedagogical interactions in general between boys and women.

“A woman can teach boys so long it takes place in a large area with no risk of her being alone with the pupils' fathers, up to the third grade and by no means beyond. This means the age of nine, perhaps a bit more... but fourth grade and higher would be considered a woman standing before boys who understand, and that is promiscuity and totally prohibited.”

Regarding the question at hand of a woman teaching a boy the Torah reading, Yosef added on the initial age-related prohibition the “distortion” of “women trying to be like men in the name of equality,” which is a “female craziness” that is becoming more and more prevalent.

“This is a wrong approach, God created us different and separately,” he said.

The modern Orthodox feminist group Kolech on Thursday said in response to the promiscuity claim that “it is wrong to attribute such thoughts to such young boys. This is an expression of the lack of faith in the possibility to conduct a normal dialogue between a woman and a boy, that we believe could carry educational and moral value.”

“We would also like to wonder why we didn't hear Rabbi Yosef speak out against men heading institutions in which pubescent girls study, or the many men who teach at such places,” Kolech said. To point a finger only at the problematic element of women teaching boys and not vice versa is hypocritical and immodest.”

This is not the first time controversial halachic interpretation Yosef issues. Last month he said that it would be better for women to not drive cars, especially in haredi areas, for reasons of modesty. In August, ahead of the High Holidays, he ruled that judges and people with senior positions in secular authorities should be disqualified from leading prayers, and not even be counted in forming a 10-man group for prayer.

 

Comments

[jay]

It would probably solve a lot more problems with chastity if they forbid rabbis from teaching boys, entirely.

[notsofrumjew]

how about this great question. can a woman sell clothes or toys or work in a candy store or pizza store that sells stuff to boys over the age of 9 ? seems to me that this rabbi would say "NO". would she not be "compromising their chastity"?

[YbM]

funny, i thought his father shlita permitted nechama leibovitz z'l to teach from behind a curtain. no?!

[Phillip]

Will Rabbis no longer teach boys over 10?
G-d help us from these lunatics.....

Israel need not fear Iran..... The Rabbis
will destroy the nation without firing a shot.

[Althelion]

This thinking is so warped that it becomes difficult to discuss it objectively.

In Rabbi Yosef's opinion, all female teachers are potential Mary Kay LeTourneaus. But 10 year old boys?!? Really!?! Those kids must be significantly repressed and/or abused if the great Rav Yosef is worried that they're going to run home after 4th grade and masturbate while fantisizing about their teachers.

[annon]

he is making too many demands he needs a good shrink this rabbi is loosing his marbels

[yidandahalf]

An obvious ploy to keep the little boys to themselves.

[Menachem Mendel lll]

The "Rabbi" needs to suck on some hard cock.

[WoolSilkCotton]

Van Halen - Hot For Teacher

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0XLKcMoXRE

[Devorah]

This reminds me of my Kabbalah teacher who gave me a few private lessons when the other students had cancelled for health reasons. He said he needed to keep the door wide open and I had to sit very far from him so that he would not get aroused. He was fat, smelly, dirty, had black crooked teeth and wore the same suit for months. Yuck. To think that anyone would want to have sex with this brilliant, but misguided Kabbalist.

[YbM]

Devorah
never mind fat and smelly. he shouldn't have held a mixed sexes lesson in the first place, no?

[tzvi]

I guess there is a shortage of men teachers. It is unfortunate that haredi men so much don't work and leave it to the women (besides the government) to support the family that even when it comes to teaching limudei kodesh they are nowhere to be found.

Now that is what you call lazy! Tens of thousands of men learning in yeshivas and one has to get a woman to teach a young boy how to lein his bar-mitzvah parshe. SICK!

[Alter Kocker]

MMIII-The rabbi is already sucking hard dick. This is the pronouncement of a latent homosexual desperately trying to keep the closet door closed so that his daddy wont excommunicate him.

These sleazy-minded creeps twist reality to suit them, then make pronouncements upon the sexually immature sheep that follow them.

I pray for the day that the supreme deity does meet with one of these guys. I sincerely believe that after reviewing their rules, regulations and pronouncements, the deity will breathe a heavy sigh, and state that the behaviours of these black hatted and hearted beings is absolutely not what the deity intended for humanity.

[Garnel Ironheart]

> “it is wrong to attribute such thoughts to such young boys.

Now who's out of touch with reality?

Of course, it really depends on the teacher...

[David]

What's with the hat?

[harvey]

OK, OK. just picture the scene. ultra chareidi woman getting it on with 10 year old chassidish and chreidi boys. Makes me wonder what exactly this rabbi is smoking...

[A. Nuran]

OK, OK. just picture the scene. ultra chareidi woman getting it on with 10 year old chassidish and chreidi boys. Makes me wonder what exactly this rabbi is smoking...

Pole, most likely.

[stickafinger init]

devorah,

that shlepper could care less if you wanted to have sex with him. In his mind, and in the haredi world, it is what the man wants and thinks that counts.

i would love to run a tape recorder at a mikveh so I could hear these women complain about the ordeal they are about to undergo when they get home. Chani will be nice and fresh as a daisy, while moishe will be smelling like gefilte fish and old books.

[A E ANDERSON]

Why do I always sound skeptical on these matters? Well, somehow, I made it through nearly 20 years of formal education without having been blown, seduced, raped, fondled or even kissed by a teacher of any gender at any age. All this inactivity when I was for many of those years one of the more physically attractive in my class. It is hard for me to believe such behaviour is rampant when I cannot draw on my own experience for even an iota of confirmation.

[What kind of goyishe name is Harold z"l?]

All this inactivity when I was for many of those years one of the more physically attractive in my class.
Posted by: A E ANDERSON | Christchurch, New Zealand | February 10, 2011 at 04:04 PM

A meshumed is always ugly inside and out. You will get your virgin marys when thine kingdom cums.

[who knows]

It is quite clear that this Rabbi is right about 9-10 year old boys fanticising... but his conclusion about the female teachers is wrong.

Women should be permitted to teach boys as long as they are old and ugly. Not harm will be done in this case.

[Riverdaleapikorus]

So a woman can't teach 10 year olds, But Rav Moti Elon can? The world is truly going to hell...

[Gefilte Fish]

If the good rabbi is truly concerned about preventing women from behaving like men, he should immediately demand that his married students go out and get a job instead of having their wives support them.

[flailed]

compromising whose chastity?
fourth grade boys understand. what?

[Arthur]

This Rabbi should be sent back in time and dropped off in a cave. The cavemen would show him how to handle his problem.

[A. Nuran]

Arthur, that would be a terrible thing to do to hunter-gatherers. He wouldn't know how to hunt, fish, select edible plants or anything else useful. And their morality would shock him. From what we know of pre-agricultural societies they tend and tended to be pretty relaxed about many aspects of dress and sexuality. He'd either cause trouble for them, which would be a shame. Or he'd lighten up and be human which would be a Good Thing(tm).