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February 18, 2011

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FORGOTTEN

YOU CAN BET HE PAID SOMEONE FOR THIS, HE DESERVED ALL 20 YEARS HE KNEW WHAT HE WAS DOING DONT BELIEVE FOR ONE SEC HE DID IT FOR CHARITY HE DID IT SO HE COULD PAY FOR HIS CUSTOM WHITE SHIRTS ARMANI SUITS AND PRADA SHOES. THE GOVT FORGOT FAST HOW HE MADE A JOKE OF THEM ON RADIO SAYING THEY APOLOGIZED. NO ONE APOLOGIZED AND HE HAD TO PAY EVERY PENNY BACK. HE MAKES ME SICK

yidandahalf

Dirt bags like Balkany are why we get called kikes.

ruvi

HE is a great man and got a great sentence!!!

Justice in America was served!!!

ruthie

forgotten,
you're right....and in 18 months he'll be out!!!
his kids live like millionaires...all fine and good but you can't be a rabbi AND a criminal...choose one.
block voting saved him too...big time...
and he paid people off....


ruthie

4 years...
wow! that's one great deal he made.again.

David

ruthie - actually a few of his kids ARE millionaires. They have good business and jobs.

itchiemayer

I don't know, but why should a man get leniency because he has 13 kids and one is handicapped. First of all, with 13 kids the chances are at least one will have some significant issue, and secondly, why should a man with 13 kids be treated differently than a man with no kids?

effie

There is no parole in the federal system. He can be released into a half way house about 6 months before they kick him out and that's it.

Ariela

I am so glad that at least he didn't get away with being a thief. Sneaky bastard! Makes me dislike my own people, such chutzpah. So glad when justice is served. I have had some unfortunate experiences with rabbis, turning out to be swindlers, adulterers, liars, and thieves.
Good riddance, even though temporarily, to bad rubbish! And family of rubbish as well.(lol)

ruthie

effie..thanks, i didn't know that.
itchiemayer...good point
david....no argue...still :)

sam

if balkany got 4 years, rubashkin should have gotten 4 months community service, because his crimes pale by comparison. at any rate, any news that gets you bastards on this blog pissed off is good news indeed :)

ruthie

well..i hope it's easy for him. i hope he doesn't get hurt. it might
be g-d's plan for something good.

formerbasmelech

@ruthie: Certainly wouldn't want to see him hurt. However, we can hope that it'll be harsh in the way that he'll learn a lesson of the sort his 2 prior run-ins with the law haven't.

formerbasmelech

...haven't taught him, that is.

Jon

So is he going to Otisville to keep SMR company?

Maskil

I don't think he was found guilty of "blackmail" per se. The charge of blackmail is the threat to expose some person or entity and the use of that threat to obtain something in exchange. The information was not possessed by him but by an inmate and he offered to receive financial benefits for "assuring that the information would not be exposed." The other crimes I understand, but there's no way he could be guilty of blackmail or extortion.

formerbasmelech

@Maskil: You might want to read the trial transcript...

Maskil

Yes, I would. If he was convicted (i.e. found guilty and sentenced) for blackmail or extortion then there is a perversion of justice and heavy grounds for an appeal on those counts. According to all media reports he did not threaten to expose any unwanted information but rather offered to use his influence to keep a third party quiet in exchange for financial benefits. This is not blackmail or extortion and it is not illegal. Either the journalists covering the case did not understand the charges or they did not understand the crimes for which Balkany was found guilty. I do not dispute the other charges and his conviction is perfectly understandable with the other charges alone. But if you believe that he was found guilty for blackmail and extortion please direct me to the trial transcript.

formerbasmelech

I believe there's a link here on Failed Messiah. Also, would you be willing to share if you're a criminal attorney, or a layman?

ruthie

this man should no longer be a rabbi.
but he's a damn good criminal.

formerbasmelech

The one lesson I've learned from years of dealing with Rabbi Balkany is that the road to hell is paved/paid with good intentions.

The other thing I've learned is that while he started out by genuinely seeking to help others and would go the extra mile for anyone in need, his thirst for power and position has become intertwined and perverted by his need for kovod and overinflated ego.

I sincerely hope that the outcome of his trial will put the fear of god back into him and bring him back down to earth.

ruthie

formerbasmelech... well said. brava

A E ANDERSON | Christchurch, New Zealand

I find it fascinating how Balkany had to defend himself against extraneous, unproven allegations to such length at his sentencing. Was he fearful that prosecutors or the judge would try to enhance or magnify his sentence, as they apparently did with S Rubashkin, based on matters not charged at trial?

effie

Of course he's guilty of blackmail and extortion. People weren't born yesterday. The jury knew exactly what he was trying to pull off and he was caught on tape.

formerbasmelech

@A E Anderson: He enjoys listening to the sound of his own voice. Need proof of that? Listen to the Zev Brenner interview.

Shmarya

I find it fascinating how Balkany had to defend himself against extraneous, unproven allegations to such length at his sentencing. Was he fearful that prosecutors or the judge would try to enhance or magnify his sentence, as they apparently did with S Rubashkin, based on matters not charged at trial?

Posted by: A E ANDERSON | Christchurch, New Zealand | February 19, 2011 at 03:54 PM

I find it fascinating that you have this disgusting habit of misstating the facts.

The "allegations" were not "unproven" – Balkany ADMITTED they were true. Th efeds agreed to treat his crimes are civil, not criminal, violations – as long as he made that admission and repaid the money he stole.

And the "allegations" were certainly not "extraneous," because they showed his prior bad acts and his very bad attitude – both of witch are germane at sentencing.

Hadasah

Read the VIN article and comments.

Sam

++According to all media reports he did not threaten to expose any unwanted information but rather offered to use his influence to keep a third party quiet in exchange for financial benefits. This is not blackmail or extortion and it is not illegal.++

Wrong. He threatened that if the financial benefits would not be forthcoming that the third party would not keep quiet. That is extortion and blackmail.

You simply don't know the law.

seymour

according to VIn readers a big tzaddik will be jailed.

Boy am i happy I left that mental asylum where a crook is still called a tzaddik.

Another commenter laminated that 4 years is a long time for a yid he will miss holidays and simchas.

Wow does the guy really think only yids have holidays and simchas?

Hadasah

according to VIn readers a big tzaddik will be jailed.

Boy am i happy I left that mental asylum where a crook is still called a tzaddik.

Another commenter laminated that 4 years is a long time for a yid he will miss holidays and simchas.

Wow does the guy really think only yids have holidays and simchas?

Posted by: seymour | February 19, 2011 at 09:43 PM

When I responded tot the person who called him a tzadik by saying,"He is not a tzadik in any shape or form. Calling him such is an outrage". When I pressed the button to post it, it said my comment would have to await approval. My comment was never posted. They are protecting him look what Zev Brenner said about this incident. He felt bad even after Balkany brutalized his own radio show.

ruthie

balkany never thought he would end up in jail. he's been doing this for years and years....
and years.
i bet he makes more money in jail. the guy is really good at what he does. not kidding.

seymour

When I responded tot the person who called him a tzadik by saying,"He is not a tzadik in any shape or form. Calling him such is an outrage". When I pressed the button to post it, it said my comment would have to await approval. My comment was never posted. They are protecting him look what Zev Brenner said about this incident. He felt bad even after Balkany brutalized his own radio show.

Posted by: Hadasah | February 19, 2011 at 10:18 PM


vin cannot have an honest discussion since they do what they did to your comment.

Hadasah

vin cannot have an honest discussion since they do what they did to your comment.

Posted by: seymour | February 20, 2011 at 10:49 AM

The previous stories about him had some people who said worse things than what I did. I made sure not to be offensive. Here are the rules on VIN. http://www.vosizneias.com/35800/

Hadasah

This comment is even more offensive and this poster cannot even spell:

Today at 08:44 AM
Netah Says:
I went to Rabbi Balkanys yeshivah over 20 yrs ago , he is a a pleasnt man always a big smile on is face. the only crime he commited is being a tzaddik and helping yiddisha children go to Yeshivah. this is a time for teshuvah bad things r happening around the world. we all must respect one another or mor ebad will happen. I pray there will be a miracle and Rabbi Balkany at his old age of 64 will not have to dread going to prison such an awful place to be, pray maybe they will lessen the charge to house arrest. Everybody Pray

Bfeirush in Fartscroll

There is no reason to post on vin anymore. They have become an impotent blog of retarts.

Hadasah

Yes I realized. I just thought that maybe I could be one of the few normal people on that incompetent blog. I did not write anything offensive. I did not say that he was a crook and deserves to be in jail for a lifetime I just said that he was not a tzadik. So screw me. The comments are funny to read because they are all morons.

formerbasmelech

Looks like VIN has become a puppet news blog since the proposed ban. It wouldn't be surprising to find out that all negative comments have been rejected.

Nick

I know Balkany personally. He is broken by what happened.
Sooner or later, we all get a mighty lesson in life.
To judge him in his sorrow and in his moment of "reality check' is not a Jewish trait.
Yes, we all want the bad guys to suffer and get put down. But YOU too one day will have to kiss the floor (this is true for the best people) and when that day comes, you will look around for those who don't carry bad judgement on you.
Instead of judging the guy, pray for him.
Give the wise a moment to think........

Hadasah

I know Balkany personally. He is broken by what happened.
Sooner or later, we all get a mighty lesson in life.
To judge him in his sorrow and in his moment of "reality check' is not a Jewish trait.
Yes, we all want the bad guys to suffer and get put down. But YOU too one day will have to kiss the floor (this is true for the best people) and when that day comes, you will look around for those who don't carry bad judgement on you.
Instead of judging the guy, pray for him.
Give the wise a moment to think........

Posted by: Nick | February 20, 2011 at 08:39 PM

He committed a crime and caused a huge Chillul Hashem. If you don't believe me read the comments on the Daily News article. I am not judging him I just said that he is not a tzadik.

formerbasmelech

I know him as well. Very well. He did a lot of good - that's undeniable. However, there's another side to the man that few are willing to acknowledge: his outsized ego. Judging him? This isn't a matter of judging him, this is a matter of a very prominent member of the orthodox jewish community - the frum community - committing a crime and basically saying, "I'm above the laws of man."

My personal judgment has no place here; in the eyes of the laws of man, he's guilty.

formerbasmelech

I would also like to point out that for someone who is so generous with other people's money, and didn't draw a salary from his school for 10 years still somehow managed to live like a king. Where did all that money come from, hmm? If that money flowed from his lobbying activities, shouldn't his first obligation have been to fund his school, pay his teachers and perhaps set a slightly less lavish table or the like?

fruma sarah

it appears that rabbi b is in miami, wether on holiday or not am unable to give a definitive answer.wishing all a peaceful and meaningful Pessach

S c

I know I'm late to write on this- but rabbi balkany is a good man. He helped numerous people, myself included,. Perhaps he made a mistake ( or was wrongly accused) but either way it was or the benefit of helping others. He had hundreds of homeless people of for the sabbath meals. If he did indeed " blackmail" somebody.. That isn't the right thing to do but hos many of us do the wrong thing, regret it and are unable to take it back. No harm was done.. No one was hurt. I hope he gets released soon.

Shmarya

Please.

The only reason no harm was done is that the feds arrested Balkany immediately.

He's a criminal with decades of shady behavior – including threatening behavior.

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