Haredi Rabbis Ban Vos Iz Neias

Haredi news website banned by dozens of leading haredi rabbis. UPDATE – Do we now know the name of the man behind the ban?

 

Haredi rabbis just banned VIN.

Will VIN shut down? Will it subject itself to rabbinic editorial control and censorship? Or will it challenege the ban?

I'm hearing talks are underway for a hechsher, rabbinic seal of approval for all content, for VIN and other haredi websites.

Update 2:10 pm CST – Shimon Weiser from Williamsburg is allegedly the man behind the ban. He allegedly works for the Zalman Leib faction of Satmar.

According to a source, Weiser is supposedly “obsessed with tznius [modesty issues], and is a known fanatic. He's always busy with such things as bans etc.”

Weiser’s brother is Moshe Weiser, an NYPD Liason, and former Williamsburg Shomrim member. He was kicked out of Shomrim for various unstated reasons.

Weiser also has another brother, Benjamin Weiser, the owner of Fidelity, the credit card processing company. Fidelity has advertised on VIN for years.

[Hat Tips: MMA, Yid, Dr. R-F, Burich, etc.]

Comments

[AM YISROEAL; CHAI]

THIS BAN ON VOS IS NEIS WILL GO DOWN IN HISTORY AS A BETRAYEL OF THE NEEDS OF KLAL YISROEL THE TRUTH WILL PREVAIL SHAME ON THEM

[DBSesq]

VosIzNeias couldn't buy better advertising.

[Yochanan Lavie]

Maybe their readers will defect to Failed Messiah (as if!)...

[C S FISHER GABA of satmar rebbe]

this web side VIN belongs to ISAAC ABRAHAM he calld our satmar rebbe reb AHRON Teitelbaum shlita he told him to ignore cs fisher

[Anon]

This is really pathetic- it is a good site that allows individuals who would otherwise maybe not keep themselves up to date on what is going on in the world a chance to read relatively clean stories. It will further cultural ignorance if it is shut down.

Oddly enough, there is not a hint of a mention of this on the actual news site as of this moment though!

[effie]

I read the comments they had to the People's Court fiasco and it seemed as if the rabbis were losing control over the sheep.

[Menachem Mendel lll]

Vos Iz Neias censor their site by reviewing each and every comment not allowing freedom of expression if a post contains disparaging comments about a frum fuck criminal element that has been convicted in a court of law.

Moshiach Uber Alles!

[rebeljew]

http://rebeljew.blogspot.com/2008/12/bans-from-rav.html

[ah-pee-chorus]

poetic justice.....VIN doesnt hesitate to censor the comments it permits, and are now facing their own censors.
do you see now, VIN clowns, why all limitations of free speech are to be despised?

[Loshon Hora]

VosIzNeias couldn't buy better advertising.

Posted by: DBSesq | December 22, 2010 at 09:34 AM

I wonder how much he paid for that sign.
Now the masses who didn't know it exsists or what it is will curiously look there, as if it is a mega porn site.
I wonder how much his adspace just went up.
More than all I really wonder how many of the Rabbis on the sign know about it, & where they heard about it from?

[ruthie]

i don't know why but this struck me as really funny. i just want to laugh so hard. THANK YOU....i can't put my mind around this one.

[mpidiot]

VIN has "lippaed" with 2 extra rabbis to boot

lippaed - the past tense of " to Lippa" defined as to "ban with 33 signatures".

[rebeljew]

Breaking news!!!!

The asifas harabonim has agreed unanimously that all forms of thinking are forbidden henceforth. The dangers of the Internet have been publicized thoroughly. However the dangers of thinking are far more grave. No chasidishe mentsch should ever allow himself or his family to think.

There, put it out on VIN right away! Oh ... never mind.

[D]

Note that one of the "problems" with VIN is that they embarrass
"leaders and politicians that are under our protection."

[jancsipista]

the truth really hurts theese rabbis but they are their own worst enemy even more people will go to vin

[david gross]

Rabbonim do not like the truth. The web sites are good because they keep rabbonim in check. They cannot do what they want without any consequences.

Keep these sites open and open up more sites.

[Rafi]

ever imagine yourself fighting on behalf of VIN???
how will it work? every article they post will have to be sent to a mashgiach for a hechsher?

[J.]

Come on people - this is a blatant hoax. If you had actually read it, you would realize this straight away. 'We have not yet been able to pursue him to utter destruction..' - this is SATIRE. Shmarya - do your homework.

[Shabeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeessssssssss]

I think that this letter is a hoax perpetuated by shmarya to steer readers to it's own site ;)

Was it real I'm sure we would read about it on vin!!

I do concede however that the stupidest thing to ever come out of the Internet is the comments section.
Why do millions of people waste their time typing in comments to any story or tidbit? Did anyone EVER changed their mind after reading a comment?
Nobody gives a shit about other people comments! ( this few lines are the only exception...)

[Yerachmiel Lopin]

Conspicuous for not signing the ban are Rabbi Dovid Feinstein, Rabbi Reuven Feinstein, Rabbi Aharon Feldman or anyone else from Baltimore-Ner Israel, and anyone from Torah V'Daath.

They stuffed the list with loads of lesser figures.

See my posting: http://frumfollies.wordpress.com/2010/12/22/ban-kol-koreh-vosizneias-vin/

[krum]

The format looks almost identical to the Lipa ban:

http://failedmessiah.typepad.com/failed_messiahcom/2008/02/the-new-music-1.html

Someone certainly could have easily created this using photoshop. On the other hand, maybe the charedim simply used the "Pashkevil" template in Microsoft Word in both cases.

[SJ]

The rabbis banning Vos Is Neias want $$$.

[Yerachmiel Lopin]

This will do wonders for boosting readership of VIN.

Shmarya, maybe you should get a ban written against you.

[FM Fan]

Na na na na.

Na na na na.

Hey hey.

Good bye.

We're gonna miss your censorship VIN.

But now that you're Assur, I can't read you anymore.

Bye.

Hope you don't get too much crap on your tongue trying to tuchas lick these black hats.

Come on Vin, get it all the way in there.

[ah-pee-chorus]

i call for a ban on all pashkevilim.

[Menachem Mendel lll]

Dos Iz Emes Neias.

Moshiach Uber Alles!

[FirstGenerationBavarianAmerican]

The only Tzeitung I know of is this one published in Brooklyn:
http://ditzeitung.com/

They seem to put a PDF of the entire issue on the web site. The paper has a publicatioin date of Fridays, but I don't know when it hits the streets.

There is a possibility this is a hoax.

[jancsipista]

mehanchem- its dus iz emes nayes not dos be a true satmere goilem :)

[Moshe Aron Kesetnbaum, Williamsburg ODA]

The leidigeiers who live on Sec 8 and foodstamps stipnds all funded by the way by us taxpayees have nothing better to do with their time are behind this, These rabbis never ever signed these kol koras , These bans are printed on Shimon wiesers printing press located at the UJO officess on Penn St . These people are mafiosos,hoodlums. They are the organized crime of nowdays just plain and simple criminal organizations.

[sam]

Moshe Aron Kesetnbaum, Williamsburg ODA,

I will call you soon to discuss it.

[Yochanan Lavie]

Apologies to Quiet Riot:

Chorus:
Come on Vos iz Neias
Blogs are for Goys
We'll get vild, vild, vild!
vild, vild, vild!

So you think I got an evil mind,
I'll tell you rabbi

I don't know why
I don't know why

So you think my blogging is a crime,
it makes me money

I don't know why
I don't know why, anymore
Oy vey

Nu,

(chorus)2x

[Yoel Mechanic]

Sure, you can all laugh and snicker now; but whatcha gonna do when they come to ban you? Like if they ban failedmoshiach.com then what will you be thinking?

[Dr. Dave]

i call for a ban on all pashkevilim

I call for a ban on bans!!!

[Yoel Mechanic]

ps: what are the expressed reasons for the ban? It should be fun and instructive to see what happens.

[Loshon Hora]

Weisers?
Nuff said

[FM Fan]

I ban you.

I double ban you.

I ban you from banning me.

I ban your rabbi.

I ban your rabbi's rabbi.

I ban your rabbi's rabbi's rabbi.

Take that.

[C S FISHER GABA of satmar rebbe]

SATMAR REBBE is against this ban

[moshe duvid]

C S F 02:18 which satmer rebbe ??

[jancsipista]

i think he would be better of minding his own buisness, first they should ban metiztza bal peh the sucking after brit mila what frauds theese satmerers are retards

[helen]

Over on Matzav they are encouraging everyone to attend the rally in the Five towns tonight. In this horrible recession how can they expect people to give money for a lost cause. As my father used to say Olem golem. Anyone who understand yiddish knows what this expression means. It just gets lost in the translation.SORRY.

[yosef mordechi K]

isacc abraham got the okay of satmar rebbe

[jakop kaplan Lakewood NJ]

is this again a satmar issue ?? what do we care

[harvey]

so stupid. VIN probaby just didnt bribe some empty black hat fanatic, so thats what they get

[Isaac weinberger]

THIS RABUNIM dont know ISAAC ABRAHAM he will fight them to the end

[Shmarya]

isacc abraham got the okay of satmar rebbe

Posted by: yosef mordechi K | December 22, 2010 at 02:25 PM

Isaac Abraham does NOT publish VIN.

[helen]

Who does publish VIN? Everyone thinks that Isaac Abraham ownes it. Is that not true?

[Shmarya]

Who does publish VIN? Everyone thinks that Isaac Abraham ownes it. Is that not true?

Posted by: helen | December 22, 2010 at 02:38 PM

He isn't the person who runs it.

[Isaac weinberger]

Shmarya and HELEN this was confirmd a few weeks ago by NIGHTSTICK INVES.CO of WYLIE TX that ISAAC Abraham ownes VIN and its run by his son and son in law

[moshe weiser]

Rabunim confirmed that NIGHTSTICK gave them the ISAAC ABRAHAM conection

[Shmarya]

Shmarya and HELEN this was confirmd a few weeks ago by NIGHTSTICK INVES.CO of WYLIE TX that ISAAC Abraham ownes VIN and its run by his son and son in law

Posted by: Isaac weinberger | December 22, 2010 at 02:47 PM

That's odd. I can't find a phone number, address or Internet listing for Nightstick Investment Company (or any other version of that name).

So this nonexistent company confirmed the IA owns VIN?

Please.

[Yankel]

Its time to take off the gloves and expose these idiots who make everyone meshuga . This guy weiser is on the community board in williamsburg brooklyn and he is a big trouble maker for years, He has a goverment job at the (UJO) Why should we tax paying citizens have to suffer from such an idiot? i dont want my tax money to go to a person that creates zuris for us all

[Heather]

I don't believe the Rabbonim listed signed the kol korai.

[Michael]

There is a high correlation between obsession with "tznious" and repressed sexual aggression. Call DYFS immediately and sent them to Shimon Weiser house. Odds are that his kids and/or his wife are being sexually abused.

[David]

I notice the Kavonath Halev is one of the signatories. I'm sure someone here can remind us why he is a very controversial fellow.

[isaac weiberger]

shmarya its true and confirmed isaac abraham owner of vin co name nightstick (bayco) 640 so sandew blvd wylie tx

[Shlomo]

VIN may moderate its comments section and the news stories but many websites do (There is such a thing as criminal slander).
However they didn't seem to moderate it heavily hence the proposed ban. What probably will happen now is there will be a subtle increase in the moderation. It's all about the advertisers not the number of readers

[A E ANDERSON]

VIN is almost entirely an aggregator... i.e., it publishes little to no content of its own, but aggregates, compiles and links content from other sites, primarily major, corporate-owned news sites.

I see that the בזויון תלמידי חכמים is what mostly bothers this group of Lakewood snags and their hangers on from mostly minor hasidic groupings. Well, if they can't take the heat, maybe they should get off the rabbinical chair!

I am mildly surprised that Kaminetsky of Philadelphia signed on to this... I though he was a moderate fellow.

It's odd that VIN comments are moderated (I write there under "The_Rebbe_is Dead") , so that probably keeps things fairly decent compared to unmoderated comment sections.

Off I go to heap lots more בזויון on these self-appointed (and self-important) תלמידי חכמים!

[Menachem Mendel lll]

jancsipista,

I'm the first to admit that ikh bin a emes goylim.

If you look up goylim in the dictionary you will find my smerkin', grinin' face.

As far as the kurvisheh Satmar ganefs are concerned lozn zey zayn emetser elses zorgn zikh.

Moshiach Uber Alles!

[OMG]

For years, it has been my view, that VIN is deliberately censoring posts that are articulate and logical with a left leaning bend. Again and again, some of my posts were not posted until the news story was faded into page two or even three, while the rightwing crazies ruled the debate. Additionally, when it came to exposing sexual molestation within the Charedi community, they failed miserably. The internal politics of who to expose by name and whom they don’t, was self-evident, to anyone with a half brain.

[Office of the Chief Rabbi]

I have for some months gone over to VIN from time to time to see what I could get past their censors.

Here's what I did this morning (I'm #1). Number 4 finally got it.

http://www.vosizneias.com/71650/2010/12/21/jerusalem-committee-orders-haredim-to-complete-friday-shopping-an-hour-before-shabbat

[A. Nuran]

Yochanan, I thought we'd escaped from Quiet Riot years ago. You just HAD to bring them back...

[Yochanan Lavie]

AN: Blame the rabbis for banning VIN. If it wasn't for them, I'd have never thought of Quiet Riot. (Chareidim prefer noisy riots, anyhow).

[WoolSilkCotton]

++OMG | December 22, 2010 at 06:17 PM++

Very true. The mental illness and illiteracy of the 'regulars' there is frightening. The right wing crazies do indeed rule there.

I can't get anything posted on VIN; I was banned a long time ago.

[jay]

Methinks that it's time for the masses to walk away from their Rebbes and flip them the bird. All they're doing is leading them into ever deepening ignorance and poverty

[esther]

"He's always busy with such things as bans etc.”
hahahahaha
from that you can imagine what kind of guy he is.

i had never heard about this vin until today. think it was a good marketing anyways.

[Flatbusher]

Isn't it ironic that the Chinese Communists and these Rabbis have the same problem?

[LIPA - VIN]

will the Ban on VIN end up like the Ban on LIPA that the ad is still on this site...

http://failedmessiah.typepad.com/.shared/image.html?/photos/uncategorized/2008/03/04/lipa_sidebar.jpg

[ah-pee-chorus]

OCR- i agree with your comment there.

[abenk]

it's nice blog..... i like it..
pleased to meet your blog...
COME VISIT ME...OK...thank you very much

[Yo]

Kol Kore's published in Monsey have a long history of outright fraud. On the eve of elections (etc) kol kore's have been published supporting various candidates, listing the names of Rabbonim who never authorized the use of their name. Ask R' Yaakov Horowitz how many times this has happened to him.

I never believe a kol kore. Never. If there is a psak halacha that matters to me, I have a Rov who will convey the message. Period.

[corn popper]

I think we can safely say that this time LIEb Pinter is NOT behind the ban.

[Yankel]

Rabbi Yoel Moergenstern from the Sharmash said that he never spoke to anyone about VIN he has no idea what VIN is, and he never signed his name on this kol kora. So here you go this is a bogus letter

[Abish weiberger]

to yankel GIT MORGEN my name is ABISH WEINBERGER i am a brother in law with Reb yoel saharmaser ruv .i spoke to him about isaac abrahams web side VIN he said to me yes he signed ( he did not know its calld VIN he was told( vas is neies ) and on this he signed KOL HAKUVED ABISH

[Yankel]

RE: Abish weiberger Hey I am confused for you he tells one thing and for others he tells something else? I also heard that Reb zalmen leib fulop said that he never signed on this kol kora, that his name was forged, no one contacted him regarding VIN . So i guess the rest of the names was also forged.

[helen]

Was anyone at the Rubashkin rally last night? Where there alot of people,did they raise alot of money?

[bec]

don't let the sheep think for themselves!!!!! (even though some of those comments made me gag.)

[FirstGenerationBavarianAmerican]

Yesterday, I wrote:
"They seem to put a PDF of the entire issue on the web site. The paper has a publicatioin date of Fridays, but I don't know when it hits the streets."

After looking at the new PDF dated December 24th, I note there are only 11 pages in PDF format on the Di Zeitung web site. It appears I was wrong; they do not publish the entire issue online. The ban does not seem to be on any of the 11 pages posted online.

[Loshon Hora]

My comment on this on Matzav like many others was censored, I rather they don't print it atall.

[YID BEN YID]

F.Y.I.
MOISHE EICHLER SHEM RESHAIM YIRKAV,WAS THE FATHER OF THE PRESENT BOYAN DAYAN,R'ELIEZER EICHLER,THE FATHER WHO DIED WAS A KNOWN CHILD MOLESTER,A PEDOFILE,HOW MANY CHILDREN DID HE MOLEST? HOW MANY LITTLE LEIBIS DID HE ABUSE??? MANY MANY,THOSE DAYS NONE HAD THE GUTS TO GO AND REPORT IT TO THE POLICE.NOW HIS SON ELIEZER EICHLER IS A DAYAN? HOW CAN YOU LISTEN AND RESPECT SUCH A CHOLERA WHO HID SUCH AN INFORMATION FROM HIS RESUME? A SON OF A MOLESTER TO BE A DAYAN? A CHILD ABUSER? I KNOW.I WAS ABUSED BY MOISHE EICHLER AT THE MEA SHEARIM IN UNGARISHE HEISER TALMUD TOIRA.NOT SEXUALLY THANK GOD BUT HOW MANY WERE? MANY!!
BE CAREFUL,LEIZER EICHLER IS THE SON OF A PEDOFILE,OF A SEX MANYAC