Home Of Anti-Kapparot Activist Defaced

Usually the animal activists are the ones tossing the red paint, but last night a woman's home was targeted, allegedly because she's the founding member of the Alliance to End Chickens as Kaporos.

 

Red Paint Attack For Woman Trying To Save Kaporos Chickens
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Usually the animal activists are the ones tossing the red paint, but last night a woman's home was targeted, allegedly because she's the founding member of the Alliance to End Chickens as Kaporos (which is the annual chicken sacrificing ritual performed around Yom Kippur). Rina Deych told us:

    I have our banner hanging on the second floor of my 3-family house in Brooklyn. When my son came home at 11:30 this evening (11/13/2010), he woke me up to inform me that someone had splattered red paint all over our front door and porch. Although we suspected it was anger at our banner, we weren't sure until, while giving a police report, we noticed that someone had painted our sign with a roller.

    Freedom of speech is legal. Destruction of private property is not. This act of vandalism is particularly troubling—especially since it was clearly done by so-called religious people.

Deych has called the Shomrim, who "said they could probably not help." While the paint doesn't seem to be that plentiful, she also noted that she and her son are asthmatic "and these fumes are detrimental to us and to our rescued animals."

UPDATE: Deych tells us there were "at least two quarts of paint" used in the attack; below is some video she took of the damage:

[Hat Tip: KP.]

Comments

[Edan]

Im pretty sure no custom has enough weight to overrule the prohibition of sacrifices outside the temple, let alone done by a nonCohen

[Shlomo]

The saddest aspect of all this is reading the many posts at VIN nearly every one support the vandalism suggest she did it, wish they did it etc. This is not the attitude of one but virtually of all of them (and they are supporting a custom which probably has pagan origins and is not Jewish

[sage]

I know Rina personally, and she's one of the most kindest souls I have met in my lifetime, especially for her endless work saving countless homeless animals from certain death.

This abominable deed, IMHO, is the work of Chabad thugs.

They need to be caught and given the maximum jail sentence under the law and pay the maximum fines and restitution.

After that, an airplane needs to fly over 770 and douse the whole building with indelible red paint with Big Chabad sent the bill.

[David]

You can tell it was Charedi criminals that did this. Non-Charedi criminals would at least have known how to use a paint roller or would have had other practical (although in this case, destructive, skills).

[harold]

Makes no sense to do it so far away from Yom Kippur, looks to me to be more of an anti-Semitic act since it is a Jewish banner being hung on a house in a residential area. The red paint mimicks the red splotch on the banner. Maybe one of the neighbors found it offensive to hang such a gory banner day-in and day-out

Anyway, let’s hope they find the person that did it.

[Mr. Apikoros]

Unfortunately, this woman, whose positions are eminently reasonable, was associated (by the haredim) with anti-fur and animal rights crazies, such as that crazy fool from Peoria, Illinois who used this blog to spew her anti-meat and anti-fur agenda.

While having her porch and door defaced with paint won't give her an asthma attack (the stress associated with this vandalism is another story), the haredi bastards who did this must be prosecuted to the full extent of the law, and maybe a bit beyond that.

Just another example of "Jews" behaving badly.

[Mr. Apikoros]

Your disingenuity never fails to amaze, Harold.

This woman lives in Boro Park. Her neighbors are all Jewish. No surrounding houses were defaced.

It was done by haredi vermin. But you're right that this was an anti-Semitic act, because those "Jews" who commit such crimes are truly a shonda fur de goyim.

[Loshon Hora]

She is a nutcase lives in a Chareidi area, grew up a Chareidi, her parents probably did chicken Kaporos.
The Ramo also questions the custom,but concludes one should not change it.
Now to go & hang a sign like that in a Chareidi area against the Ramo & officially be part of the community, & to get the umos haoilom involved, is a provocation at least.
If some Jewish person would have property opposite a Mosque & would hoist up a bunch of pigs legally. You on this site would be the first to condem.If they would vandalize his house you would say he deserves it.
Now let us say on of those who prayed at the Mosque would do it & they would go & vandalize the house you agin would side with the Mosque people.
This is exactly wghat she did.
The only reason you see a difference is anti Chareidi stance.
BTW hanging a sign against the Rama is apikorsus & was never tolerated in Chareidi circles.
Now if I agree to violence that it is another story, but if you don't want violence don't provoke.
She is a velenteer not a victim.

[Mr. Apikoros]

Loshon Hora, you sure live up to your name, you stinking swine.

[Loshon Hora]

Apikoras you are not smart enough to live up to your name. The truth hurts you big time.

[for the record]

This abominable deed, IMHO, is the work of Chabad thugs.

Posted by: sage | November 15, 2010 at 05:02 AM

Sage, you are an extremely gullible person to swallow the progagnda that Shmayra spews. You also have an uncanny way of showing your ignorance. Why would you think that Chabad thugs would be the primary suspects in a vandelism in Borough Park, when few if any live there?

[harold]

Your disingenuity never fails to amaze, Harold.

This woman lives in Boro Park. Her neighbors are all Jewish. No surrounding houses were defaced

First of all all the article said was that she lived in Brooklyn and does not discuss who her neighbors were. Maybe the video mentions this bit I did not watch it. I block by default ads and flash so until I read your post I was not even aware that a video was posted.
As to her neighbors not being defaced I assume that they did not have a poster on their home.

[Mr. Apikoros]

Harold, you shmuck, all you have to do is look up "Rina Deych" on whitepages.com. You'll see she lives in Boro Park.

This woman had the courage of her convictions, which is a lot more than I can say about you, or that putz whose post preceded yours.

And I don't care if it was done by a chabadnik or some other variety of frumbag. To me they're all the same: Scum.

[WoolSilkCotton]

If you have a poster displayed that disagrees with the frumma, if you are reputed as being in disagreement with the frumma, then you are subject to physical violence and vandalism by the frumma.

As per frumma leadership, the orthodox Torah allows this. It's all part of the frumma life style.

If you live in a frumma neighborhood, you forfeit many of your rights as an American.

Even if she had no banner on display, the local frumma drek knew she was part of the anti-kapporos group. She probably would have been physically assaulted, or her house vandalized in other ways. She still may be. I hope the police take this more seriously.

[sage]

+++This abominable deed, IMHO, is the work of Chabad thugs.

Posted by: sage | November 15, 2010 at 05:02 AM

Sage, you are an extremely gullible person to swallow the progagnda that Shmayra spews. You also have an uncanny way of showing your ignorance. Why would you think that Chabad thugs would be the primary suspects in a vandelism in Borough Park, when few if any live there?

Posted by: for the record | November 15, 2010 at 11:30 AM+++

Your bull sh-t comment is unworthy of any response.

[yankele]

Off the record, My sources tell me that Cow dung was found at the scene of the crime.

http://www.chick-fil-a.com/#thecows

[yankele]

Oops, I just realized that many of you won't get the joke. There's only one Chick-fil-a in the whole state of New York.

[harold]

Harold, you shmuck, all you have to do is look up "Rina Deych" on whitepages.com. You'll see she lives in Boro Park

Why in g-d's name would I look up "Rina Deych" on whitepages.com? I don't know about you, but I only do a cursory glance at the stories and respond to them. Like I have many, many, times in the past, posts here mean nothing and drop off the cliff to "Older" within a few days, so why would I do such research?

On the surface, if a Jew puts up a "Jewish" banner for the public to see in a densely populated boro like Brooklyn should not be surprised that one day some wacko will single out their house for mischief. We are in galos after all in crazy times and must watch our backs. Just try keeping a large menorah in your front yard all year long and see if it survives to the next Chanukah unscathed.

[Yankel Yissachar]

Harold, I'm quite sure that Ms. Apikoros has lacked the ability to put anything up for quite awhile, hence, his bitterness toward Judaism, the Rebbe, the weather, and the world in general. Bile, thy name is Apikoros. Ms. A., try to respond without cursing - I believe in you, pal.

[next door neihbor]

Rina is a very nice women. bot not to her jewish neighbors

[Shlomo]

Harold it really is disingenuous to suggest that a non Jewish neighbour vandalized the house she obviously lives in New York her banner isn't even obviously Jewish it talks about Kapporot and she has an American flag If you are really being honest from which group of people did the vandal come from, or maybe you think she did it herself after all the paint is dripping down from her window?

[DK]

The tragedy is that this is the closest that these haredi animals get to creating art.

[WoolSilkCotton]

Shlomo, you are wasting your time trying to reason with harold. He has made it clear that he has nothing but contempt and disdain for everyone here, and that everything he writes is intended to provoke a response from the reader by intentionally containing misinformation. It's just trolling.

His presence will continue until Shmarya decides otherwise.

A response to anything harold writes should be nothing but a mock or an insult of him. He deserves nothing else.

[WoolSilkCotton]

Only a frummer would bring a roller with paint- they're too cheap to buy a spray can, and too lazy to bring a brush.

[Jeff]

Apikoras you are not smart enough to live up to your name. The truth hurts you big time.

Loshon Hora, you wouldn't know the truth if it bit you on your cholent-fed Haredi behind. If Shmarya will permit me, "Shoteh!"

[Jeff]

The tragedy is that this is the closest that these haredi animals get to creating art.

Heh! Good one, DK!

[Jeff]

His presence will continue until Shmarya decides otherwise.

May it happen speedily and in our days, amen.

[WoolSilkCotton]

Who knows, Jeff, it wouldn't come as a surprise if one of these days 'harold' made the NY Post for some 'mikva misunderstanding' with a young child.

[yidandahalf]

This woman weakens her postion by keeping the colonies of feral cats on the property.

Kapporos will be restricted and eventually be completely legislated against; it is only a matter of time.

Apikoros, who is the woman from Peoria you mention? I cannot recall this person.

Can we take a poll here? How many here during their religious days performed kapporos? Who has had family members who performed it? It's just one more poorly translated fanatical rite to be resurrected so we can be further separated from the goyim and the rest of the world. Always this negative crap to make us more echte. Separatism somehow equztes with kosher heiligness.

[Mr. Apikoros]

Yankele, anytime you want to mess with me, motherfucker, I'm ready, willing and able.

Hope you've got an excellent dental plan. Bring Loshon Hora along, you'll need his help, you black-hatted bastard.

[Mr. Apikoros]

Yidandahalf: I don't remember her name. She's a woman who once tried to free a tiger from its cage, or something like that, and was arrested by the local cops.

Effie knows who she is.

[Mr. Apikoros]

Yissachar, fuck you and fuck the heilige rebbe, but enjoy the weather, it's the only weather you've got.

[yankele]

Mr. Apikores,

I think you need to specify which Yankele you want to administer the ass-kicking to. There's me

Posted by: yankele | November 15, 2010 at 01:49 PM

and

Posted by: yankele | November 15, 2010 at 01:58 PM

and then there's

Posted by: Yankel Yissachar | November 15, 2010 at 03:08 PM

BTW: I have very good dental insurance, plus my father-in-law is a dentist (so I can get a real good deal, should you knock out a couple of my teeth).

Just curious?? where do you live?? I live in the Southwest and I don't like the cold. So considering that it's mid-November on the East Coast, do you think we can delay my ass-kicking until late spring??? If you guys are having an Indian Spring, I'd consider it. I love New York in the fall, even if I don't like the cold. Could we come around Thanksgiving time?? My kids would love to see the Macy's Day Parade.

BTW: I'll have to first ask my wife and kids. We were looking forward to going to either Florida or California on vacation this Winter. My kids want to go to Disney. I've got family in California and my wife has family in Florida.

Unless of course, you plan on paying my fare to the East Coast. I'd be very grateful. Also, do you think I could crash at your place??? As I mentioned earlier, we are planning on going to Disney and so, I need to save up. the airfare plus we'd have to rent a minivan.

Then again, you may be referring to Yankel Yissachar in which case this whole point is moot.

[WoolSilkCotton]

I googled woman-tiger-peoria and all I found was a story about Tiger Woods and Rachel Uchitel from a Peoria newspaper.

At least I got to see a bikini photo of her again.

[effie]

Doris Muller. She uses various monikers when commenting.

[effie]

yankele: I believe you mean Indian Summer. And, yes, it is my favorite season, too.

[effie]

Unfortunately, I've traded Indian Summer for this:

"It was one of those hot dry Santa Anas that come down through the mountain passes and curl your hair and make your nerves jump and your skin itch. On nights like that every booze party ends in a fight. Meek little wives feel the edge of the carving knife and study their husbands' necks. Anything can happen." — Raymond Chandler

[Mr. Apikoros]

I am referring to Yankele Yissachar, so indeed your whole post is moot. Good post, though.

I believe he's about 15. Normally, I don't fight kids (in fact, I don't fight anyone) but in his case a good potsch in tuchas should do the trick very nicely.

[harold]

Harold it really is disingenuous to suggest that a non Jewish neighbour

I did not say that it has to be a neighbor. It could be a troublemaker who happens to pass through the neighborhood and decides to do mischief. Let them find the perpetrator then we talk.

[Chatz]

Plenty of sources that using live animals kapparos should be stopped.

Rambam
Rashba
Bais Yosef
Aruch Hashulchan
etc...

[Jeff]

My Chabadnik nephew told me recently, when I held up to him the Rambam and Yoseph Caro, "They were Sephardim! It wasn't their minhag!"

There's always a rationalization. Always.

[WoolSilkCotton]

The issue that brought kapporos under scrutiny from humane society groups is the gratuitous cruelty on display at the outdoor 'Kapporos Centers' that appear in the city during the High Holidays.

Holding a chicken in the air, gently waving it around, watching it be properly slaughtered and cleaned, then taking it home for your erev fast meal- or having it go directly to a facility that feeds the poor- that is NOT what happens.
Instead, on display for all to see is an orgy of shocking maltreatment of the chickens by ill-mannered, benighted, troglodytes in white shirts; some with beards, others too young to have beards but not too young to eagerly ape their brutish elders.

The issue is truly not the kapporos ritual itself; I leave the ecclesiastic discussions on the subject to others. The frumma position of 'we'll keep doing exactly what we're doing and tough shit if you don't like it, because we're so holy and you're not'- does not allow for any change to reduce the unnecessary and avoidable cruelty.
Accordingly, prohibiting the entire practice is the only recourse for the public. A larger demonstration next year, bringing in thousands of protesters to Crown Heights, will end the sadistic event completely.

[sage]

Right on point, as usual, WSC.

Please consider emailing the webmaster, so that we can exchange our offline email info.

Rina is a personal and dear friend of my wife and I.

If the massive demonstration you mention comes to fruition, we would like to take part in it next year, if our schedule permits, all the more reason to touch base with Rina personally, again.

[Yankel Yissachar]

Yankele: That was easily the most lucid, articulate and humorous post I've ever read on this site. Well done! Please forward my contact data to your FIL as Ms. Apikoros REALLY means it this time.

Ms. Apikoros: Does the winner of the Internet Tuff Guy contest get a crown, a sash, or a belt? One hopes that shatnes is a non-issue; please advise.

[Mr. Apikoros]

Come to NJ and learn for yourself, faggot.

[Jeff]

'we'll keep doing exactly what we're doing and tough shit if you don't like it, because we're so holy and you're not'

That's the crux of it, right there. That will never change.

A larger demonstration next year, bringing in thousands of protesters to Crown Heights, will end the sadistic event completely.

I don't think it would, WSC. It would only incite them to more violence. They know they're right. You're dealing with addicts - organized addicts, in fact. Nothing will deter them, nothing will convince them they're wrong. Nothing.

I'd say the only thing to do is to wait for their inevitable self-destruction, but, in this case, it may not be applicable. Chabad may survive - more's the pity. They have their own infrastructure; they're largely independent of the rest of the frum world - and they're open to the outside world just enough to enable them to coexist with it. Plus, they've convinced enough of the gullible frei yidden to fund them. A couple of years ago, someone told me the following, Someone said to me a couple of years ago (one of the most lucid, insightful statements I've ever heard on the matter): "The Modern Orthodox and the liberal Jews are afflicted with a bad case of Fiddler-on-the-Roof nostalgia." The Chabadniks are aware of this, and they've manipulated it to their advantage.

It appears as though that old lunatic might actually have accomplished his goal. They actually may be unstoppable.

[Yankel Yissachar]

Ms. Apikoros, your comment exemplifies the spirit of Hachanasat Orecheem, as espoused by our forefather Avrom Aveenu. Thank you! You are obviously on the derech of tshuva - kol ha'kavod! Sadly, I don't get to the Northeast often, but if my plans allow I will take every opportunity to accept your kind offer. Perhaps you can accompany me to a Daf Yomi shiur, of which there are more than a few in your fine burb, I'm sure. And thanks again for your generosity; you possess a lev tahor.

[Mr. Apikoros]

I don't speak Yeshivish, girlie-man. But if you're willing to come to NJ, I'll give you a chance to apologize to me IN ENGLISH for your idiotic insults which belie you as the 15-year-old punk you are.

If you apologize, I'll shake your hand and we'll part without anyone getting hurt. Otherwise, you're on your own.

While you're at it, you can apologize to Supreme Court Justice Elena Kagan for calling her a mieskeit and implying she's gay.

[Yankel Yissachar]

Gay she is not. A homosexual? Indisputable! Your vehement defence of that particular lifestyle choice is commendable. And telling.

[Loshon Hora]

I am referring to Yankele Yissachar, so indeed your whole post is moot. Good post, though.

I believe he's about 15. Normally, I don't fight kids (in fact, I don't fight anyone) but in his case a good potsch in tuchas should do the trick very nicely.

Posted by: Mr. Apikoros | November 15, 2010 at 08:01 PM
Am I also invited

What implement do you use & how long do you go on for are you Mr or Misses Where in NJ are you?
For all i know you are what you called someoneelse over here.

[Mr. Apikoros]

Wouldn't you like to know, LH?

As for you, YY, are you a dyke who's had sex with Elena Kagan? That's really the only way you'd know indisputably that she's gay. BTW, "Gay" doesn't only refer to men.

You ought to go on Jerry Springer. He loves lesbians.