Chief Rabbi Tells PM To Torpedo Bill Making IDF Conversions Irrevocable

In urgent letter to Prime Minister Netanyahu, Rabbi Amar says automatic recognition of army conversions will have "severe consequences."

 

Chief rabbi: Torpedo IDF conversions law
In urgent letter to Prime Minister Netanyahu, Rabbi Amar says automatic recognition of army conversions will have 'severe consequences'
Kobi Nahshoni • Ynet

Chief Spehardic Rabbi Shlomo Amar has called on Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to torpedo a bill stating that Israel will automatically approve conversions carried out by the Israel Defense Forces without necessitating the chief rabbi's signature, which was approved on Sunday by the Ministerial Committee on Legislative Affairs.

In a talk he held with Netanyahu over the weekend, and in a letter he sent to him Monday morning, Rabbi Amar claimed that the proposal made by Knesset Members David Rotem and Robert Ilatov (Yisrael Beiteinu) would have "severe consequences in the future".

He asked that the government wait for the conclusions of the committee established by the Chief Rabbinate to investigate the crisis surrounding the legal and halachic validity of the IDF conversions before moving forward with the legislation.
 
"I am emphatically against this bull which shows contempt for the converting soldiers by separating them from the rest of the nation", Rabbi Amar explained and added "and there are many more reasons which are just as important."
 
Rabbi Amar stressed that he didn't mean to perpetuate the adversity of those who have gone through the IDF conversion process, whose personal status remains unclear, and highlighted that: "I raised this issue before the Council of Israel's Chief Rabbinate after a great deal of consideration and that led to the establishment of a committee, sadly, some of the committee members have now resigned."

Rabbi Amar added that he appealed to the president of the Rabbinate Council, Chief Rabbi Yona Metzger so that he can continue the management of the issue, "I hope that the committee's work will be completed successfully and in the right way in the near future."
 
The Shas party presented an appeal over the ministerial committee's decision. The committee has now sent the bill to the Knesset for a preliminary hearing. Minister Meshulam Nahari (Shas) demanded that the issue be discussed before the government plenum. "The problem of those that have gone through IDF conversions is well known but it can't wait", he said.

Comments

[effie]

"I am emphatically against this bull which shows contempt for the converting soldiers by separating them from the rest of the nation", Rabbi Amar explained....

Yeah, right. It's to stop folks like you from dicking around with them and destroying their lives. The fact that people want to hold this over their heads forever and therefore always have control over them is disgusting.

[norm]

Its time for the dispora to vote with our checkboks. If this bill doesn't pass-I will.

[Alter Kocker]

Amar is scared shitless that this spells the beginning of the end of the stranglehold that the orthodox rabbinate has on the country.

Once Israel discovers that Amar and the plethora of theocrats need not give their paid blessings to every cough and fart, they will wean themselves off of the opiate that is orthodox haredi judaic practice. Then the fun will begin as the welfare rolls will be made to dwindle and the black hatted bastards will be made to contribute to society rather than be the leeches that they are.

[who knows]

Sefardi racist rabbinical mafia is not any better then the ashkenazi racist rabbinical mafia, they just cover their tracks a little better.

It is high time to expose all of them for what they really are - Jewish nazis.

[Aleksandr Sigalov]

Sefardi racist rabbinical mafia is not any better then the ashkenazi racist rabbinical mafia, they just cover their tracks a little better.
That is very very true.

[YbM]

the shm-ck is afraid of elioshiv, who had caused his predecessor to weep and recant in the matter of hetter mekhira.
reversal of conversion is against halakha as r' amar would see it, as well as honaat hager. consequently, those who promote reversal, are no better than pharaoh, the sodomites, tartei mashma, haman, hitler and anti torah

[YbM]

Amar is scared shitless that this spells the beginning of the end of the stranglehold that the orthodox rabbinate has on the country.

no, cocker, no. he is afraid that elioshiv will put him in herem.
he is taking steps against his own beliefs. I would wish him that G-d forgive him, but I am sick and tired of the whole lot.
Indeed, I am disappointed that rabbi Yosef doesn't secede from the wicked lot of ashkenazi style haredism, as it is anti jewish.

[Jakes]

Wasn't Amar just saying he stood behind all IDF conversions and they were valid? I guess he wants to be the final word on conversion validity.

[YbM]

who knows, sez:
"It is high time to expose all of them for what they really are - Jewish nazis."
who exactly is all of them?

[Jakes]

I think some of you may be giving Sephardi practice more credit than it deserves. Maybe they were once more left-wing or more lenient than Ashkenazim, but are they so different today?
Just for example, I remember reading a Sephardi organization in France's (do they have their own bet din, it might have been that?) position on Orthodox conversions, which was quite similar to the Charedi one we see now. I think they're experiencing the same move to the right we're seeing in Ashkenaz Orthodoxy.

[Jakes]

Maybe they were once more left-wing or more lenient than Ashkenazim, but are they so different today?

Oops, didn't proofread very carefully. I meant maybe Sephardim were more lenient in the past, but so were Ashkenazim.

[Bartley Kulp]

When Rabbi Amar says "serious consequences", this is a euphemism for "I don't want to quit my job or face excommunication".

[who knows]

This exposes Amar as a hypocrite he is. It also explains why he was silent about conversion annulements until they threatened his personal authorities.

He is a criminal, like all of the gadolim of today, and, like most criminals he has no heart.

Do we really have any gadolim left or do we have gadolim in name only?

[Judah]

They are not "Jewish Nazis". National Socialism has nothing to do with them. They are sicarii, Jewish daggermen, Jewish terrorists, out to purify Judaism and the Jewish people from Hellenized Jews who worship mammon, Baal and Pharaoh. And if they have to slit assimilated Jewish throats and destroy Israel as they did the last time, then so be it.

Their unwavering dedication to the purity of Am Yisroel is why the sicarii are honored every year by the IDF when it brings it's new recruits to Masada, the last sicarii stronghold, to swear loyalty to the death to the Jewish people. Honor their Jewish heritage.

So don't call them "Nazis", the terroristic exterminators of Jews and Judaism, call them "Sicarii", the terroristic Jewish purifiers of Jews and Judaism.