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October 10, 2010

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Adam Neira

The EDL is an interesting group. Nationalism is not dead and buried in the Old Dart. If certain Jewish people can work with this group and influence them then that is a positive thing.

What William Blake was trying to get at in his famous poem and hymn "Jerusalem" was the idea expressed by Jeremiah and later by Mar Samuel. That each nation should try and be transformed into a literal "Jerusalem" of peace and security for its people.

William Blake was a true patriot who loved his fellow countrymen and held no animosity to other nations. He actually met with Thomas Paine and other great people in the late 1700's.

I find William Blake to be a real prophet and quite inspiring. My Great-Great-Great Grandfather gave his first son the first name and middle name...William Hayley. (He did this because he himself was inspired by Blake during the times he grew up in London as a young man up until 1815, and he realised the importance of William Hayley, who was Blake's benefactor at a crucial time in the early 1800's.)

The fondness the English have for Blake's "Jerusalem" was shown recently, when the cricketers who had won the Ashes after a long break sang the hymn with much spirit and gusto. It is a beautiful hymn.

I wish more people knew about William Blake and his transcendent works.

P.S. One of the greatest films of all time is "I.D." It is on the surface about soccer hooligans in the 1980's, but really has many layers to it. I am not going to reveal the other movies that make up the top ten of all time here. Got to keep something in reserve.

mambo

A tea party in Britain?...how ironic

the usual chaim

the EDL is more than just "patriotic", it is dangerous to give them or any such group any legitimacy by using that term. something tells me these people are not interested in being influenced, nor do i think someone interested in allying with them is interested in influencing them. it is very sad that the surfer rabbi has chosen to associate with such people.

Abu Jihad Schneerson

the EDL is anti-islamic,but not antisemitic,afaik.If they are against muslims and don't harass Jews,they are fine for me!

rabbidw

Without reading the story, you should not have used that headline. In bed with can be taken literally, and since you like to spread that kind of story, you should only use the phrase literally, not figuratively.

the liar

chabad again!
the english defense league are nazis. everyone knows that. Has the chief rabbi himself a chabad member given him permission.
When you lie with dogs you get fleas. not sure who the bigger dogs are here.
an excellent heading, in bed with them.
what next!!

Bill DaGoy

England is not an Arab, Asian, nor African country. It has a Christian-Judeo, White heritage as much as Israel has a Judeo-Christian and Semitic heritage. They have every natural right to protect themselves from what they deem as a threat. Obviously those who hate and seek to destroy them by means of "multiculturalism", will only jeopardize themselves through their own selfishness and stupidity.

Isa

Anti-Islam

Thats why I see no harm in the hordes coming from Mexico- they will at least keep USA from being Islamitised

Curious

Can you please point me to an official Chabad website that lists this person as an official Chabad Rabbi?

Menachem Mendel lll

Mahalo and Hang Ten Rebbeh Shifren!

Stormfront.com.....REJOICE.

Shmarya

Can you please point me to an official Chabad website that lists this person as an official Chabad Rabbi?

He has smicha from Chabad:

http://www.surfingrabbi.com/bio.htm

Reuvain

All kind of people graduated from Harvard, and Harvard is not responsible for all of their actions. Shifrin has no official connection to Chabad. Has no position in the movement or any Chabad community.

A. Nuran

Isa funny you should mention Mexico. You've gotta stop smoking that Mexican rope before you come to work.

Muslims are maybe a percent of the population. Most of them came to this country to get away from the repressive political and economic life in the Muslim countries they came from. They have about zip interest in putting that in place here.

And somehow I wonder if the 80% of America which nominally worships the Jewish zombie-vampire from Nazareth would fail to notice. That includes the 20% of the population which believes that our President is the Antichrist. And the growing numbers of atheists and agnostics who don't like the idea of any religion having political power.

Nope. You're a useful idiot. You've guzzled the Kool Aid and licked the envelope just like the dimwits during the Reagan years who believed the Sandinistas could drive up the Pan-American highway and attack Brownsville in just 12 hours.

Shmarya

All kind of people graduated from Harvard, and Harvard is not responsible for all of their actions. Shifrin has no official connection to Chabad. Has no position in the movement or any Chabad community.

He's been profiled on Chabad websites and proudly identified as a Chabanik by them.

He went to a Chabad yeshiva and got ordained by it and affiliates with Chabad.

You can't have it both ways.

He is a Chabadnik.

Moishe Pipik

A Chabad Nick???

Is that a chasidic Santa Clause who refuses to die?

Yoel B

The EDL isn't the British National Party. And don't forget the class distinctions in the UK. For an interesting discussion of all of the above, see

http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2010/10/changing-meme.html#more

yankele

Shmarya,

If you are ever caught doing something heinous (god forbid), I'm sure somone will call you a Chabadnik too ;-)

Yosef ben Matitya

r' neira
"The EDL is an interesting group".
'repugnant' is a more appropriate adjective.
"If certain Jewish people can work with this group and influence them then that is a positive thing."
positive? like influencing hitler? next question is if this 'certain Jewish' peyson is jewish altogether.
do we want him in our midst? representing himself as a jew?
what does he want to do in california? get rid of the mexicans and repopulate the state with minim like him and the 'rebbe mamesh's emissaries products'?
bless be he who grants man knowledge.
bless be he who opens the eyes of the blind.
:-(

jerry

http://www.google.com/images?q=edl+idraeli+flag&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=og&sa=N&hl=de&tab=wi&biw=1024&bih=649

Adam Neira

To Yosef ben Matitya...

Point One - Some people with the correct modalities can be influenced for the better. Some psychopaths intent on violence need to be shot. It is possible to turn a serial murderer into a doting grandfather and a Neo-Nazi into a friend of the Jews. I have done both. I never sang Kumbaya with Christian Groups on beaches in Summer, so the pacifist, weak leitmotif will not stick. Ecclesiastes is clear that there is time for everything.

Point Two - If you could travel back in a time machine to 1913 would you have been happy to try and influnce a young Adolph Hitler ? Do you think the Treaty of Versailles was fair ?

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