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September 15, 2010

PETA's New Yom Kippur Video

PETA Bloody Shoes Don't wear your leather shoes.

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What a bunch of anti-Semites! Yech!

Harold,
You're not supposed to wear leather shoes on YK, right? So what's the problem?

If slaughtering animals in a nonhumane way is wrong, than what's wrong with PETA's message?

If quite a few of PETA's staff are Jewish, how are they antisemitic? If they feel strongly that most slaughterhouses act with cruelty towards animals, and leather shoes is a product of such cruelty, how does that make anyone an antisemite?

Like most frumma, you have this wild visceral hatred towards anyone concerned with inhumane treatment of animals. Hard to understand.

Wear your leather shoes on Yom Kippur, Harold, just to be spiteful.

I'll wear my leather shoes any damn time I feel like it.

Yom Kippur, Rosh Hashana, Christmas, Good Friday, Arbor Day, and 2 Tammuz (which I believe was the 4th of July in 2010).

If Ingrid Newkirk doesn't like it she can kiss my you-know-what in Macy's window.

: WoolSilkCotton

there are plenty of jew hating jews

and the reason one does not wear leather shoes on yom kippur, has nothing to do with what this peta commercial states

and i hope the ou and the agudah call them out on it

""You're not supposed to wear leather shoes on YK, right? So what's the problem?"'"

I bet you know that the reason is not what those violent PETA animals,claim.

WSC, why are they singling out Jews selling skins for leather and saying they have blood on their hands?

The are against wearing leather or fur anytime. They are not claiming some ecclesiastic argument. And it has nothing to do with antisemitism.

Please show me what violence the PETA organization has committed or condoned.

The OU and Agudah should stick with protecting child molesters.

No, this has little to do with anti-Semitism, although I hate PETA even more than I hate the ultra-Orthodox, which is really going some.

What about the red paint some PETA members have splashed on ladies' fur coats? That's non-violent?

They spray paint and harass people wearing fur. If you noticed most of those PETA thugs are weird.


"""The OU and Agudah should stick with protecting child molesters."""

What do you call protecting?

They may not be anti-semetic or have such intentions, however, the singling out of Jews for attack, connecting it to our religion and at the time of our high holy days is repugnant.

They may not be anti-semitic or have such intentions, however, the singling out of Jews for attack, connecting it to our religion and at the time of our high holy days is repugnant.

How does this single out Jews for 'selling skins for leather'?

The Jewish members of the PETA staff know you don't wear shoes on YK, but for a different reason.

PETA is against wearing leather shoes anytime.

They tried to tie in the two. Maybe you liked the pitch, maybe you didn't. I still don't see the 'antisemitism'.

Those who have thrown paint on fur-wearing people did not do so in the name of PETA, and it was never their tactic, nor was it ever condoned by the organization. There are plenty of anti-fur zealots out there. PETA can't be responsible for all of them.

I know PETA is a convenient punching bag for the frumma velt. Go ahead and insult them all you want, but the fact is, they're brought the topic front and center, and have made a difference in how animals are treated in our society.

Chabadnik Attorney, Cheskel, and Mr. A,
in case we don't have time later this week, my best regards to you and all yours for a G-mar Sima Tovah, and all the very best for 5771.

If any of you will be in Williamsburg tomorrow, please let me know.

PETA taps into and perpetuates an anti-humanistic mindset prevalent in the West. They profit by a clever manipulation of people's fears, biases and prejudices. With this modus operandi they are not that different to many other charities and businesses. The dark-green agenda is on the satanic side of the spiritual margin.

My gripe with Peta and other similar groups are with their "chicken holocaust" meme. I find it highly offensive.

++They profit by a clever manipulation of people's fears, biases and prejudices++

Like orthodox judaism.

The more you villify PETA and ascribe other-worldly powers to them, the more evident it is that they've got your attention regarding the topic of humane treatment of animals.

Amazing how the frumma velt goes so apoplectic whenever they are challenged regarding the way they treat animals.

If Jews did as much to protect children as PETA does to promote their agenda, moshiach would be here.

++effie | September 15, 2010 at 05:52 PM++

I agree, and I know they got the message from all the other Jews (including me) who were similarly disgusted by that tactic.

Effie, and Monsey Hocker, please include yourselves in my 5:13pm G'mar Sima Tovah wishes above.

WSC, if I am in Willy B tomorrow what do you have in mind? Keep in mind if it involves a child, an animal or anything same sex, I'm not that frum.

To WSC...

They only have my attention as does an annoying blip on a radar screen does to a naval navigator charting a ship through choppy waters. I have been actively auditing the zeitgeist since 1995. My skill at prioritising and filtering has improved over time. I keep watch on a multitude of tribes. I assign no supernatural powers to PETA, but what one thinks can effect how one acts. Groupthink is a fascinating human phenomenon. If you don't understand human consciousness you cannot really understand history or politics.

To Monsey Hocker...

The following has been sent to many people all around the world over the last seven years.

MULTIPLE CHOICE QUESTION

Do you believe "Moshiach" is...

(a) A tasty Polish stew best served in the depths of winter.

(b) An irrelevant, archaic concept with no relevance to today's world.

(c) A metaphor for an age of world peace and does not imply an actual person.

(d) Alive and breathing right now on
Planet Earth and is doing his work.

(e) Has already lived and will return one day.

(f) Not born yet and is not physically present on earth yet.

(g) Best represented by the collective Jewish people and/or the State of Israel.

Harold,
You're not supposed to wear leather shoes on YK, right? So what's the problem?

Peta cares so much for the Jews that they are spending money producing and distributing this video so the Jews do not wear their shoes for one day. No mention that Jews shoud be fasting that day, which is a much bigger nono.

They have one message and that is to imply that Jews are evil people with blood on their hands.

So I say, yes, they are anti-Semites! - Yech!

++Amazing how the frumma velt goes so apoplectic whenever they are challenged regarding the way they treat animals.++

Posted by: WoolSilkCotton | September 15, 2010 at 05:55 PM

so true. anything which might cause them to have to THINK about the morality of their actions as opposed to blindly accepting the torah's position which they consider to be the final word on such matters evokes an angry response.
i'm no fan of PETA due to their duplicitous nature, including the number of animals they kill each year at their shelters, as well as their ridiculous justification of the VP's use of insulin while they oppose all animal testing of drugs and medical procedures. and as effie mentioned, their disgusting use of holocaust imagery including actual pictures of caged and skeletal jews juxtaposed with caged chickens was inexcusable.

++They have one message and that is to imply that Jews are evil people with blood on their hands++

As always with Harold and the frumma velt, everything, EVERYTHING, is antisemitism.

++No mention that Jews shoud be fasting that day, which is a much bigger nono++

Telling Jews to fast that day is your job, not theirs.

APC, I am not claiming they are without fault in some of their over-the-top ad campaigns and dogma (bit of a pun, don't ya think?). Have they made mistakes, sometimes coming off hypocritical? Sure.

Regarding humane treatment of animals, they brought the issue to the forefront like no other humane society group before them.
Is it sometimes necessary to use shrill and hard-line positions to make a point? Just ask the NRA, the MLB Players' Union, or the Tea Party.

++if it involves a child, an animal or anything same sex++Monsey Hocker | September 15, 2010 at 06:04 PM++

MH, I am visiting one of my kids who lives in Willieburg, along with her cat, and I will do some pre-Yom Tov food shopping, as well as lunch (I assume the waiter in a Satmar eatery will also be male), and so technically, you may not be able to join me!

WSC- i hear ya. they do deserve some credit for getting people to think about how we look at and treat other living beings. i just wish they would do so in a less confrontational and divisive way.

@ Mr. Apikoros

I trust when it comes to Cinqo De Mayo that is where you draw the line and refuse to wear leather.

Even the famous Meester Apikorus has a limit.

My answer is H - A concoction of the beards with the twofold purpose of minfu**ing the masses and creating a point of access to exploit the thirsty kool aid drinkers.

PETA has a few nut bars in their organization as all organizations have but I applaud them and donate to their cause which I believe in.

Otherwise my buddy Rushashkin would be in my good books and I would be donating to his cause. May he suffer the same fate (X 10) as he inflicted upon the innocent creatures of the earth.

Amen.

www.petakillsanimals.com

Exclusive: PETA’s Pet Killing Program Set a New Record in 2009
Public Records: PETA Found Adoptive Homes for Just 1 out of 300 Animals
Animal lovers worldwide now have access to more than a decade’s worth of proof that People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) kills thousands of defenseless pets at its Norfolk, Virginia headquarters. Since 1998, PETA has opted to “put down” 23,640 adoptable dogs, cats, puppies, and kittens instead of finding homes for them....

Posted by: ユダヤ人 | September 15, 2010 at 09:37 PM

Your source is a meat, tobacco and fast food industries lobbyist whose tactics are decried by leading professionals in his own field.

I've mentioned this several times previously, I think one of them in response to a comment from you.

But like a true Chabadnik, the truth doesn't matter to you. All you want to do is sling mud on your enemies, and you'll take that mud from any shithole you can find.

Official government records show that People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) has killed more than 12,000 animals since 1998. PETA employees now face felony animal-cruelty charges for killing puppies and kittens - and throwing them in a dumpster. This news photo shows police preparing to bury a puppy that PETA's "ethical" employees left to rot in the trash.

http://www.petakillsanimals.com/ads_detail.cfm?ad=35

++kills thousands of defenseless pets at its Norfolk, Virginia headquarters++

Their headquarters is an office building on a street with other office buildings. About 75 people work there. It's a short walk from the Jewish part of the neighborhood known as Ghent. There's a Chabad House there on Colley Ave.

Please explain how "thousands of defenseless pets at its Norfolk, Virginia headquarters" are being killed in such a setting.

They have a large freezer that cost a few thousand dollars? So do I.

++PETA employees now face felony animal-cruelty charges for killing puppies and kittens - and throwing them in a dumpster++

Kindly reference court documents, or at least some reputable news websites, rather than the website run by the meat industry lobbyist. I noticed that his website provided no references for any of his claims.

Check out this stupid video PETA made: http://meat.org

As I noted above, your source is a meat, tobacco and fast food industries lobbyist whose tactics are decried by leading professionals in his own field.

That 2 PETA employees acted badly does not mean all PETA employees or PETA itself did.

Past that very obvious point – a point you make every time a Chabadnik rapes a child, gets caught stealing or says the Rebbe is alive and is a indistinguishable from God – you continue to lie, distort and smear in order to protect your favorite Chabadnik, Sholom Rubashkin, which is why you hate PETA.

Like a true Chabadnik, the truth doesn't matter to you. All you want to do is sling mud on your enemies, and you'll take that mud from any shithole you can find.

But what you fail to realize is that your shit slinging is transparently obvious, and the root source of that shit you sling is your very own dishonest, feces-encased soul.

I just looked at the "petakillsanimals" website. Is this a verifiable fact that in 2009 Peta received 2,366 animals and killed 2,301 of them and only adopting 8 of them? If this is not the case then what are the actual numbers (sources please).

Yeah, Cinco de Mayo, that's it.

If you see a rather large middle-aged dude wearing running shoes on May 5th, that's me. I need to wear them to run away from INS agents pursuing me, as I'm really an illegal Mexican.

The secret is now out.

Adam:

The correct answer to your little quiz is (d), Moschiach is alive and well today. But you got the gender wrong.

I just looked at the "petakillsanimals" website. Is this a verifiable fact that in 2009 Peta received 2,366 animals and killed 2,301 of them and only adopting 8 of them? If this is not the case then what are the actual numbers (sources please).

Hundreds of thousands of animals are euthanized every year in the US by animal shelters, pounds, etc.

The sad fact is there are far more stray and abandoned animals then their are homes to place them, and injured, sick or violent animals are often euthanized as well.

How many animals did your local pound "kill" last year?

++ユダヤ人 | September 16, 2010 at 12:08 AM++

Reviewing the sheets in your document, it shows that last year 11,096 animals were taken in by PETA for a variety of reasons, such as strays, animals found injured, surrendered by owner (for any reason such as severe behavioral problems, injury, illness, etc.)

People bring animals to PETA as a last resort, such as when other shelters can't or won't take them, the animal is violent and has attacked people, or is sick or injured and the owner can't or won't pay the medical bill. So PETA ends up getting the most difficult cases.

21% of these animals (2352) had to be euthanized.

Every effort was made to get medical care for the sick and injured animals, and find new homes for all. Only 8 new homes were found. There were not enough takers. Another 8 were reclaimed by their owners (after PETA footed the bill for their medical care).
Another 25 were transferred to other shelters.

So how does this make PETA evil?

So how does this make PETA evil?

It makes PETA "evil" because the Chabad creep who left those comments wants PETA to be evil, because he views PETA as the cause of Rubashkin's downfall.

Truth does not matter to him, to his community, or to his community's leaders.

I can understand why all Jews should not eat anything on Yom Kippur because most Jews eat animals throughout the rest of the year.

I can understand why all Jews should not 'wear leather' on Yom Kippur because many Jews 'wear animals' throughout the rest of the year

What I cannot understand is why all Jews have to refrain from marital relations on Yom Kippur just because one individual Jew, Mr Apikorus, has sex with farmyard animals throughout the rest of the year.

Philip Schein, thanks for the reference.

Barry, why the nasty attack on Mr. A, one of the distinguished members of our FM family?

Barry suffers from foot-in-mouth disease, a common ailment of those who are part of a noble barnyard animal, the horse.

Reade the Indictment and charges against PETA, these were healthy adoptable dogs and cats that were dumped in the dumpsters and Euthanasia for no reason other then collecting donations and a making a profit:

http://www.petakillsanimals.com/downloads/trialCharges.pdf

And to the former Rubashkin family business colleague, this was not about your former business associate Rubashkin where your business deal went sour, so you use slander instead of pointing to issues discussed here, the reason why you use slander is here:

Defamation—also called calumny, vilification, slander (for transitory statements), and libel (for written, broadcast, or otherwise published words)—is the communication of a statement that makes a claim, expressly stated or implied to be factual, that may give an individual, business, product, group, government, or nation a negative image. It is usually a requirement that this claim be false and that the publication is communicated to someone other than the person defamed (the claimant).[1]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defamation

While I do think animal rights is important, I also think PeTA tends to be a bit crazy.

Frankly, at that point the cow is long dead, so no pain is being caused to it. As long as it was slaughtered humanely I see no problem with the skinning machine. Also, is that method the common method or just the Jewish one? If its the common method, then this is pretty Anti-Semetic.

Also, the logic fails strongly considering we can wear anything leather on Yom Kippur that isn't shoes.

To Mr.Apikoros...

Would your candidate for female Moshiach be in fact Lelu in the film "The Fifth Element" ?

Nice try. But it's not her.

They have their point - they don't believe in wearing leather (even if made from the hundreds of thousands of animals they "humanely" euthenize each year), while we don't wear leather shoes on Yom Kippur.

However, the exploitation of our most sacred day on the calendar, exemplified by their explicit distortion of the reason for not wearing leather footwear on Yom Kippur is an act of hostile sacrilege on par with the striking at Israel on the 10th of Tishrei in the Yom Kippur war. Yes, the war was bloody and the goal was to kill as many Israeli's as possible - especially the Jewish Israelis - but I'm not relating to that evil element. They could have perpetrated those evil acts on the 9th of Tishrei or the 11th with the same level of evil. But the choice of Yom Kippur as an exploitative device for their personal goals, that ill disregard for the sanctity of our nation, was the same as that being used by PETA in this video. I do not decry their motives, with which I do not agree, but I decry their mandacious and demented exploitation of that which is so sacred to our nation for personal use with the same vehemce that I begrudge our enemies' choice to lauch the attack on Israel on Yom Kippur 1973.

Maskil, why limit yourself to comparing PETA to the YK War against Israel? Why not go for a nazi/Auschwitz/Holocaust hat trick?

WSC: G'mar Hatima Tova, to you! And of course, to everyone else, too.

I want to wish Shalom Rubashkin well, as this is his first Yom Kippur in the joint.

May it be the first of many, SMR.

PETA just released a statement berating Joe Biden for distributing hot dogs to American service members.
Last year, they went after Obama for killing a fly on national television.
Fun stuff.

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