Israeli Murdered In Uman In What Hasidim See As Payback For Violence During Rosh Hashana
Members of the local Breslov community in Uman estimated that the
attackers were looking to provoke local Jews and "settle the score" with
them, after a Jewish man stabbed and lightly injured a local resident
during Rosh Hashana. Hundreds of Breslovers rioted and attacked police in an attempt to stop the arrest of the Jewish man.
Israeli murdered in Uman
Young Jewish man visiting Rabbi Nachman of Breslov's grave on 200th anniversary of Rabbi's passing stabbed to death by local Ukrainian. Brother of victim lightly injured in incident
Kobi Nachshoni • Ynet
A 19-year-old Breslov man was stabbed to death early Sunday morning in the town of Uman, Ukraine, and his brother was lightly injured in a brawl between several local residents.
The murder dumbfounded Breslov community members in Israel and around the world, and Ukraine's chief Rabbi expressed fear that local authorities might attempt to whitewash the grave incident.
On Sunday – the fourth day of Sukkot – Uman marked the 200th anniversary to the passing of Rabbi Nachman from Breslov, who is buried in the town.
The two brothers flew to the Ukraine especially to visit the Rabbi's grave, who according to tradition promised to protect his followers. The victim recently got engaged, and was about to get married in two months.
According to eyewitnesses, close to 1 am Sunday, a few locals hurled stones and smashed the windshield of a car owned by Jews, which was parked on one of the central streets in town.
The two brothers, from a well known family in Breslov, heard the clamor and rushed down from their house, only to discover their vehicle has been damaged.
One of the brothers started chasing the perpetrators, and when he caught up with one of them, the man turned around and stabbed him in his chest with a knife. The young man collapsed and died in the hospital shortly after. His brother, who came to his help, was lightly injured in a brawl that took place at the scene.
Members of the local Breslov community in Uman estimated that the attackers were looking to provoke local Jews and "settle the score" with them, after a Jewish man stabbed and lightly injured a local resident during Rosh Hashana.
According to local media, Jewish worshipers blocked the Ukrainian police forces that arrived at the scene, and tried to prevent the arrest of the Jewish suspect. The police officers then used crowd dispersal means and took the man into custody.
Ukraine's Chief Rabbi Moshe Asman and the director of the Jewish community Ya'acov Zilberman, who also heads ZAKA in the Ukraine, were both making their way from the capital of Kiev to the hospital in Uman in order to take care of the body.
Rabbi Asman told Ynet that he will request to closely follow the investigation into the murder, and has even contacted the police and law authorities on the matter.
"There were incidents in the past that the police tried to cover up," he explained, "That's why it is important that we are here and keep on top of things."Meanwhile, ZAKA members were trying to prevent an autopsy on the body, so that it can be quickly transferred back to Israel.
Rabbi Asman is one of what was once two Chabad 'chief rabbis.' The actual Chief Rabbi of Ukraine is Yaakov Bleich, a Stoliner hasid who has served in that capacity for many years, beginning long before Asman or his even newer Chabad rival arrived in Ukraine.
Rabbi Bleich's aunt and uncle are leading Chabad emissaries, and many of his first cousins are, as well.
That did not stop Chabad from declaring their own men chief rabbi over him.
Here is the Ha'aretz report, which has the name of the victim:
Haredi pilgrim stabbed to death at rabbi's tomb in Ukraine
On Saturday and Sunday, the Bratslav Hasidic community commemorates the death of Rabbi Nachman of Uman 200 years ago.
By Haaretz Service
A young ultra-Orthodox Israeli was stabbed to death early Sunday while on a traditional pilgrimage to visit the tomb of Rabbi Nachman in Uman, Ukraine.
On Saturday and Sunday, the Bratslav Hasidic community commemorates the death of the renowned rabbi 200 years ago.
Shmuel Tobol, a 19-year old member of the Bratslav Hasidic sect was apparently stabbed during a fight with local Ukrainians. His brother was also lightly injured during the fight.
According to reports on the incident in Haredi newspapers, several Ukrainian youth arrived at the Tobol's house and began throwing rocks at the family's car. Shmuel and his brother went down to confront the rock throwers, which led to the subsequent fight during which Shmuel was killed.
Rabbi Nachman died of tuberculosis at age 38 in Uman surrounded only by a small handful of followers; 200 years later, thousands of newly religious and ultra-Orthodox Jews are influenced by his teachings.
So let me understand, a 19 year old Jewis man, two months away from being married, is stabbed to death, but the "story" is who is the "Chief Rabbi" - what a twisted spin. Amazing!
Posted by: harold | September 26, 2010 at 05:18 AM
So let me understand, a 19 year old Jewis man, two months away from being married, is stabbed to death, but the "story" is who is the "Chief Rabbi" - what a twisted spin.
Please.
People have a right to know the man claiming to be Ukraine's chief rabbi is not, in fact, chief rabbi – especially when he is quoted saying things about the Ukrainian government and police that others might strongly disagree with.
Posted by: Shmarya | September 26, 2010 at 05:30 AM
People have a right to know the man claiming to be Ukraine's chief rabbi is not, in fact, chief rabbi
All that I know is that the story, as originally presented here, was followed by this "who is chief rabbi", rather that the outrage that a 19 year old was murdered because he was a Jew. Maybe the story would have been treated differently if he was killed by a Ukrainian who was texting at the wheel rather than stabbing him. Jewish blood is still cheap to some people. Oh I forgot, he was a haredi.
Posted by: harold | September 26, 2010 at 06:19 AM
All that I know is that the story, as originally presented here, was followed by this "who is chief rabbi", rather that the outrage that a 19 year old was murdered because he was a Jew
Cretin.
The entire story is about that murder. So Is my headline.
Past the extremely obvious, you showed no outrage when a hasid stabbed a Ukrainian or when hasidim rioted and injured Ukrainian police or when hasidim blocked the ambulance trying to reach the injured Ukrainian.
Clearly for you, Jewish blood is redder.
Posted by: Shmarya | September 26, 2010 at 06:29 AM
they are following the investigation closely, but hindering it at the same time by not allowing an autopsy
Posted by: seymour | September 26, 2010 at 06:56 AM
Shmuel Tubul was an amazing person, He helped countless people and always stood up for everyone.
The last conversation i had with him (few days ago) He kept asking if I had meals for yom tov, if I need any meat or wine etc.
He will always be remembered as a pure hearted soul who epitomized the meaning of a true breslover.
We are making progress with the authorities releasing the body in time, Keep praying.
Posted by: Account Deleted | September 26, 2010 at 08:02 AM
Prayers for Shmuel Tobol and his family. The authorities better find and punish the perpetrators of this evil crime. I understand the significance of Uman to this sect but the Breslovers should be focusing all of their attention on the Holy Land right now.
Posted by: Adam Neira | September 26, 2010 at 08:25 AM
Cretin.
The entire story is about that murder. So Is my headline.
Exactly, the story (which is not yours but a cut'n'paste)was about the murder as well as the headline, the "editorial" that followed was an attempt to get at your enemy, the dreaded CHABAD, not about the murder.
Posted by: harold | September 26, 2010 at 09:04 AM
The guy is an Israeli, lives in Israel, but owns a car in the Ukraine?
Why chase vandals, in the middle of the night, in a foreign country, for what may be a rental car?
Posted by: effie | September 26, 2010 at 10:38 AM
WAIT A MINUTE.
I was of taught that those who go visit the kaver of Rabbi Nachman of Breslov's will be blessed, blessed and blessed again.
Wrong, wrong and wrong again.
When my Jewish Brother's who I care about deeply decide to visit Babi Yar which is "just down the road" and prayed at the gates of Aushwitz, Treblika, Mauthausen, Sobibor etc to honor the millions of Jewish neshumas that were eradicated off the face of the earth like vermin their prayers would be answered and perhaps they would be privy to next weeks super lotto numbers which is what they are really after.
MOSHIACH UBER ALLES!
Posted by: Menachem Mendel lll | September 26, 2010 at 11:20 AM
Exactly, the story (which is not yours but a cut'n'paste)was about the murder as well as the headline, the "editorial" that followed was an attempt to get at your enemy, the dreaded CHABAD, not about the murder.
Please.
As I pointed out above, people reading this have the right to know Asman is not the real chief rabbi of the Ukraine, and that he represents primarily one Chabad faction only.
Knowing that helps put his statements into context and also lets people angered by those statements know his opinion is neither necessarily official or universal.
But you are as ever a moron and a dishonest one at that.
Posted by: Shmarya | September 26, 2010 at 12:00 PM
... that followed was an attempt to get at your enemy, the dreaded CHABAD
Cretin, please.
I know for a fact that although Shmarya may have enemies he does not make them. He does not hate Chabad or anyone for that matter. The Torah forbids it. His issue is strictly with evil and those who defend it.
Harold, the final chasima is on Hoshana Rabah and some say as late as Chanukah. I urge you to try to make this world a better place for you and alle yidden. I know you know how. You can start by using your Yiddishe name (again).
Posted by: What kind of goyishe name is Harold? | September 26, 2010 at 03:53 PM
It is a tragedy that this fellow was murdered, but why do these people keep going back to the land of the Cossacks?
Posted by: David | September 26, 2010 at 04:05 PM
Bad behaviour by Jews end up getting an innocent Jew killed. Harold are you proud?
Posted by: nachos | September 26, 2010 at 07:01 PM
a terrible tragedy...but COMPLETELY PREDICTABLE. maybe now they'll learn that their dead rebbe cannot protect anyone and it's time to bring his body to israel where the avodah zarah dollars can at least remain in house.
let's hope he's the last to die (or even visit) in uman on this trek to jew-haterville.
Posted by: ah-pee-chorus | September 26, 2010 at 07:28 PM
You can start by using your Yiddishe name (again).
You and I know that Harold is not my real name. If it makes you happy I can choose a Jewish name/handle, but Mr. Rosenberg frowns upon name changes. However, if you like and Mr. Rosenberg agrees I can call myself "Hershel".
I personally like "Chayim" but just like one doesn't mess with number "7" on the Yankees, I will not put on he "mantle" of the famous "Chayim".
CHAREIDI POWER NUMBER ONE
Posted by: harold | September 26, 2010 at 08:18 PM
cant get much more of a Jewish name than Harold. I think Harold was the lost son of Yosaif.
Posted by: chabadnik attorney | September 27, 2010 at 09:30 AM
This is what too much wanking over Tikkun Klali does to one's mind!
Posted by: A E ANDERSON | Brooklyn, NY 11213 | September 28, 2010 at 07:45 AM
Cretin.
The entire story is about that murder. So Is my headline.
Past the extremely obvious, you showed no outrage when a hasid stabbed a Ukrainian or when hasidim rioted and injured Ukrainian police or when hasidim blocked the ambulance trying to reach the injured Ukrainian.
Clearly for you, Jewish blood is redder.
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NO, BUT MURDERED JEWISH BLOOD IS REDDER THAN INJURED UKRAINIAN BLOOD.
Posted by: Elias | September 28, 2010 at 09:54 AM
NO, BUT MURDERED JEWISH BLOOD IS REDDER THAN INJURED UKRAINIAN BLOOD.
Please.
The Jew who stabbed the Ukrainian could easily have killed him. In America, he would be charged with attempted murder.
But you make a distinction because the Ukrainian lived and the Jew in a separate incident did not?
What a sick, twisted mind you have.
Posted by: Shmarya | September 28, 2010 at 10:01 AM
No, I make the distinction because one man lived and the other died. It has nothing to do with whether the man was Ukrainian or Jewish. I would say the same if it was the other way around.
So let me rephrase - murdered blood is redder than injured blood. Murdered blood should provoke more outrage than injured blood.
Now can you accept that?
Posted by: Elias | October 04, 2010 at 10:20 AM
No, I make the distinction because one man lived and the other died. It has nothing to do with whether the man was Ukrainian or Jewish. I would say the same if it was the other way around.
So let me rephrase - murdered blood is redder than injured blood. Murdered blood should provoke more outrage than injured blood.
Now can you accept that?
No.
Why? Because the Jew that stabbed the Ukrainian tried to MURDER him.
He failed.
That doesn't make the blood he shed less red than the blood of a Jew killed in retaliation for his act.
Posted by: Shmarya | October 04, 2010 at 11:05 AM