Rep. Anthony Weiner Asks AG For Investigation Into Rubashkin Trial

But does the Jewish Democrat from NY know what he's talking about? By his own admission, he does not.

I think the answer to that question is found in this quote from Weiner's letter:

In other words, Weiner finds Nathan Lewin's misquotes and lies "deeply troubling," not because Weiner did any due diligence and checked those quotes and assertions, but because the picture Rubashkin's attorney paints is disturbing.

The problem is, the picture Nathan Lewin paints is false and is not supported by the documents he released.

It is also important to note that Weiner did not wait for the prosecution to file its response to Lewin's motion – a response that should be filed in the next few days.

He apparently felt that it was ethical to wait 14 days after Lewin's filing to release this letter, but somehow he could not wait a day or two more to see what the prosecutor's response says, and he could not take the time to check Lewin's 'quotes' from the FOIA documents – quotes that often turn out to be intentional misquotes.

Past that, in the letter you'll see Weiner both misstates the law and the facts. If one took Weiner's mistakes as truth, no federal judge could meet with prosecutors to clear a court's schedule, make sure defense attorneys and translators are available, etc.,  when a large number of arrests are planned.

But Weiner's assertion is patently false. The housekeeping matters necessary to run the court – which sometimes involves meeting with law enforcement – are part of a chief judge's job description and are perfectly proper, as Avi Moskowitz, a former Deputy Assistant US Attorney (and now a leading defense attorney) noted recently.

Weiner also claims Rubashkin's sentence is overly harsh and notes the judge gave him a longer sentence than the prosecution asked for.

But what Weiner does not say is that Rubashkin's sentence was within the US Sentencing Guidelines. In fact, it was at the lighter end of the possible sentences.

And Weiner also does not mention that the judge added on two years to Rubashkin's sentence for a reason: Rubashkin perjured himself in her court.

I'd like to see Sholom Rubashkin get a lighter sentence.

But the more I see the tactics of his attorneys and supporters, the more I think it would be better for Rubashkin to rot in prison for his full 27-year sentence.

There is no lie too low, no trick too dirty, for Rubashkin and his defense team to play.

And that disregard for the truth should not be tolerated.

 

The Documents And Nathan Lewin's Press Release.

[Hat Tip: Burich.]

Update 9:40 pm CDT – It turns out there is a previous Rubashkin-Weiner connection:

KIN OF 'ROBBI' STUFF WEINER'S WAR CHEST

DAVID SEIFMAN • New York Post

January 29, 2005

Relatives of a rabbi accused of misappropriating $700,000 in federal funds two years ago have contributed more than $20,000 to the mayoral campaign of Rep. Anthony Weiner.

Campaign filings show that Menachim Balkany - son of Rabbi Milton Balkany - gave Weiner $4,500 on July 1, 2004. Two other Balkanys, Levi and Sarah, chipped in $4,000 apiece this month.

That was near the $4,950 maximum allowed per individual under the city's campaign finance rules.

Rabbi Balkany rounded up so much money for politicians in the 1990s that the good-government group Common Cause labeled him "the Brooklyn bundler."

Politicians began steering clear of the rabbi after prosecutors in 2003 charged him with di- verting $700,000 in federal funds to pay administrative expenses at two schools he operated in Brooklyn.

Balkany avoided prosecution by agreeing to return the money to the Department of Housing & Urban Development and to engage in "good behavior" for six months.

Since then, he has kept a relatively low profile.

But his large extended family has continued to write large campaign checks.

Two members of a family related to Balkany by marriage added $9,000 to Weiner's war chest.

Records show Menachem and Tzippa Rubashkin each wrote checks for $4,500 on July 11, 2004 to Weiner's campaign.

Reached at the Krasna Yeshiva in Brooklyn, where he serves as principal, Menachim Balkany told a reporter he'd be available on his cellphone in two hours. But when the reporter called back, there was no answer.

After being questioned by The Post about the contributions yesterday, Weiner said he was giving the money back.

"Out of an abundance of caution we are returning the donations," said Weiner spokesman Anson Kaye. "However, we have and had no reason to believe that these donors did anything wrong."

Weiner had previously returned $9,250 rounded up by the owner of a Brooklyn pharmacy after it was reported that some contributors had no idea their names were on money orders made out to the congressman's campaign.

The Rubashkin family operates one of the nation's largest kosher meat packaging plants, AgriProcessors Inc. in Iowa.

Last year, various Rubashkin family members contributed $20,000 to Florida Rep. Katharine Harris and another $20,000 to Pennsylvania Sen. Arlen Specter.

Last Dec. 1, the Iowa plant was cited for violations of the Clean Water Act.

[Hat Tip for the update: FGBA.]

Comments

[harold]

Rep. Anthony Weiner Asks AG For Investigation Into Rubashkin Trial

Way to go!

[SJ]

Glenn Beck started http://www.weinerfacts.com/ after Anthony Weiner ranted about Goldline's advertisements on Fox News.

[steve]

Weiner is just kowtowing to his constituency. When did a politician ever let the truth get in the way of being a politician?

[Just the facts]

Look Shmarya, all he's asking for is an outside investigation. Lewin has raised substantial concerns which deserve a public hearing. If, as you continually claim, Lewin is wrong-lied-corrupt-yaddayaddayadda.... then the inquiry will find that as well. If, however, the inquiry finds (to your obvious horror and dismay) that there were / are grounds for a new trial, well- that's the system we have.
Suck it up, Shmarya, and stop making your Kapo forebears proud. See if you can find it in you to have some mercy on another human being, not as a Jew - that is clearly beyond you- but as an American.
SMR was entitled to a fair trial without all the vindictive hyperbole, and any rational observer can see he didn't get one. Let the system work its course. I trust Lewin may know almost as much American Law as you do, Kapo Shmarya !!

[itchiemayer]

Weiner is kimd of a wimp. Hannity made mincemeat out of him when he had Wiener and Peter King on his radio show.

[FirstGenerationBavarianAmerican]

From a 2005 New York Post story,
"Five Balkany relatives made donations to Rep. Anthony Weiner (above), totaling $21,500."

The following paragraph was slugged in automatically by The Post's website:
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Weiner has a gerrymandered district. Its hard to tell if Weiner represents the people who have asked him to send this letter to the AG.

The is not the first time people contacted the Justice Department in Washington demanding that prosecutors in Iowa be investigated. So far, nothing happened that we know about.

[moshe]

1. He isn't Jewish, his father is, mother never converted. 2. He married a muslim woman. So enough with Weiner who pretends to be a Jew when he is not. He is a gentile, and gentiles can be our friends, but this guy hopes his "Jewishness" propels him to bigger heights in NY.

[Dr. Dave]

I've heard him interviewed on O'Reilly's show talking about Beck and Goldline. Hekept repeating doggerel and wouldn't answer any questions.

[topsy turvy confused]

i find it interesting that a non religious jew who is married to rubashkin feels that an orthodox jew was discriminated against and than so called religious jews like shmarya from failed messiah attack weiner for taking the side of the religious jew

[topsy turvy confused]

correction weiner who is married to a muslim

[effie]

ttc: This will make you even more dizzy -- Weiner married Huma who everyone thought was schtuping Hillary. The marriage was officiated by Bill Clinton. Does this mean Bill is an ordained member of the Universal Life Church?

[Menachem Mendel lll]

Vote him out of office ASAP.

Let him get a real job punching a clock and getting paid by the hour.

[OMG]

Here is my e-mail; I just wrote to Congressman Weiner.

Dear honorable Congressman Weiner, as a strong supporter of your causes as you could check that for about a year I am on your e-mail list, and I did contribute money to your causes through the year. It is easy to check my e-mail address against your e-mail list. I am writing to you not as a contributor, but as a decent human being, who has to speak up when I see an injustices. Without a doubt the federal sentencing guidelines for white collar crimes, is excessive and needs to be reviewed by the judiciary committee, and I urge you to do whatever you could, to have the congress give e a second look at the guideline, and adjust the draconian sentences.

That said, let me explain what drove me to write; unfortunately you got involved in the Rubashkin saga, with the understanding that you have a large Orthodox constituents, and it might make good political sense to take a position which a great number of Chasidic Jews will support. But the fact that people like me who are not orthodox, and followed this trial closely, we know that the press-release, by Nat Lewin Esq. appellate lawyer for Rubashkin, is nothing more than a rabble rouser and a dishonest human being to boot.

I am not a lawyer, and I was never schooled in law, but to read the appeal briefs with the accompanying, exhibits, affidavits, it is crystal clear, that Nat takes part of the exhibits and try’s to the best of his ability to win a retrial for his client, and I do understand that it required that any attorney, most zealously advocate for his his client. But what Nat Lewin Esq. did, in the press release he twisted the truth and he makes it sound, that he found the smoking gun that Judge Reade, is corrupted and the prosecution is Anti-Semitic. The facts are that noting of this sort is grounded in the facts of the exhibits. And the reason why Nat wouldn’t dare to portray Judge Reade and the prosecution team as corrupted, because he know that his appellate briefs most be grounded in fact, not hyperbole, and if the evidence doesn’t stand up to scrutiny, there will be hell to pay. Therefore, in the body of motion, Nat never asserts any of the assertion he claims in the news release. Additionally, Nat fails the other responsibilities he has, i.e., as an office of the court, he has a responsibility and the duty to be candor to the court and others (see Model Rules of Professional Conduct R. 3.3-3.4, 4.1 2009) describing candor to the court, fairness to opposing counsel, and truthfulness in statement to others. ,

Congressman, what is appalling is that you took a position before you studied the facts of the trial, as we did. Furthermore, why would you take a position before the reply from the prosecution to this motion? Shouldn’t you at least wait to see what the government’s position would be, and what exactly was the function of the Chief Circuit Judge Reade, did she done what her duty requires from a Chief Circuit Judge. The fact is, that a fare reading of the exhibits are I total contradiction to your claim that Judge Reade offered to assistances with the investigation, arrests, the documents written by a law enforcement proves that the only offer was logistical in nature as the Chief Circuit Judge, to have orderly system. Have enough Judges and defense attorneys and interpreters so the arraignments could be done flawlessly. Nothing else was discussed but the logistics of the potential detainees

Finally let me point you to failed messiah website @ failedmessiah.com, you will see that not all Jews support, the libelous propaganda spewed by Rubashkin’s attorneys, we are dismayed by the tactics undertaken by Nat Lewin on behalf Rubashkin, it is not necessary. Any passionate advocate should and would be doing whatever they have to help their client, but not to deal the race card from the bottom of the deck.
Sincerely yours,

XXX XXXXXXXXX

[sage]

Hi OMG,

Many thanks for doing this!!!!

A real masterpiece.

[state of disgust]

OMG:
Please provide Congressman Wiener's email address so that others may respond as well.

[Sanford Hausler]

Just a point about Milton Balkany not mentioned above. He was indicted for extortion in February 2010 (nothing to do with Wiener). I'm not sure what the status of that case is. At any rate, I wouldn't call that a low profile.

[Yochanan Lavie]

Maybe the politician heard that Rubashkins was making kosher wieners.

[OMG]

Sorry state of disgust, I am reluctant to put out his activist e-mail address, due to the fact that I know of some strong conservatives, who are blogging herein. But you could write to him via the congressional e-mail system.
http://www.dldewey.com/housef.htm
I really hope that some of the readers will write to explain, that on this issue Congressman Weiner prematurely took a side, and his direction is totally wrong.

Thank you SAGE, but after reviewing my e-mail in the morning, I saw that it was lacking the proper grammar, I should have gone to sleep and write in the morning, or at a minimum review the work in the morning before I send the e-mail. Hopefully Congressman Weiner’s staff will be able to decipher what my position is.

[Just the facts]

Forget law, OMG, you were obviously never schooled in basic grammar either. Heres a free tip, sign up at a local community college for some remedial English courses - then get back to writing letters.

Unfortunately, the letter is unlikely to get anything done as it's addressed to a career anti-semite and bigot by the name of Eric Holder. Holder won't even respond unless the noise about this increases significantly.

[Mad Hatter]

"There is no lie too low, no trick too dirty, for Rubashkin and his defense team to play."

It's called "zealous advocacy" and it is encouraged, heck, expected of every defense lawyer in a criminal proceeding. Indeed, failure to to raise every possible defense, however untenable, is grounds for malpractice.

[Unusual Uncertainty]

"I'd like to see Sholom Rubashkin get a lighter sentence."

Would you, really?

And how would propose that loftly goal be acheived if not by leaving no stone unturned?

Also it seems like a lot more than simple "housekeeping matters necessary to run the court" took place. Too much involvment by the judge? Not enough disclosure? Well, that's up to the judge decide now, Isn't it?

[sage]

Hi OMG,

It's a masterpiece, in spite of the grammetical errors; the points you made still come out crystal clear.

If my memory is correct, Lewin appealed to Holder, earlier in this saga, and Holder rejected it, saying, "That the matter has already been properly ajudicated."

This second attempt he'll hopefully throw in the sh-t can.

[OMG]

You are right, I never ever got a secular education, I am a product of the Satmar education system. I left the Satmar community more than forty years ago. Besides serving in the military, When the military pre tested me, to ascertain my grade levels reading, my writing ability was 5th, math, and science was 4th, social studies and government was 12th grade levels. I took my GED and some college courses. My life is exactly how I envisioned it, 40 plus years ago. My wife is a doctor, my son is currently in law school, and my daughter is currently in pre-med. Oh yes my dog Ebony, shits, eats, and sleeps, what a life. I am grateful, to this country, for it has given me the opportunity to participate in this great society. All that said, I always have next to me, The Writer’s World second edition, by Lynne Gaetz. Finally, I am sure that I have a better then average analytical mind, because, over the years, all the promotions I received, was for sure not because my writing ability. It is because I have a God’s given gift, the ability to analyze and discern between BS and reality, and believe me I could spot BS a mile away.

Now a few tips to you my friend. One- {Heres} is not a word, you should have written *here is*, two- anti-{s}emite should be capitalized, spell checker is easy to use. Sorry but I know how it feels when someone criticizes your writing.

Regarding your babbling that AG Holder is a Anti-Semite, well I know of no college courses, which could help you with your babbling disease, as the quote goes “a mind is a terrible thing to waste” the only course of action I could recommend to you, stop prattle on about your abilities. At least, nobody would know your shortcomings.

[Shmarya]

Posted by: Unusual Uncertainty | August 19, 2010 at 11:02 AM

Stop using multiple screen names or I'll ban you.

Past that, zealous advocacy does not include lying.

It's about time Nathan Lewin was taught that lesson.

[Barry]

This wacky Weener, is a power, camera crazy. He is a snot nosed wannabe, who can't find his way out of a paper bag w/both ends open and a flashlit.
A WEASEL if the ist magnitude, who usually doesn't know what he is talking about..

[FirstGenerationBavarianAmerican]

A few sites have an account of another Congressman being contacted by a constituent about the Rubashkin case. Here is one site featuring the story:
http://www.collive.com/show_news.rtx?id=10420&alias=shliach-lobbies-for-rubashkin

Note that on August 6th Congressman Peters expresses outrage at how the case was handled, and that he also promised to contact Eric Holder.

Anthony Weiner has known about the case for some time; see my comment in this post:

http://failedmessiah.typepad.com/failed_messiahcom/2010/08/rubashkin-moved-to-prison-345.html

But the account prepared by Mr. Lewin appears to have been sprung "cold" on Rep. Eric Peters. If you look at some of the comments on websites and blogs from the time Mr. Lewin first released his press release, you will find many expressions of outrage. Rep. Peters had the same exact reaction.

I can't wait for the response by the prosecutors and judge for the motion for a new trial.

[Cheskel]

"""I'd like to see Sholom Rubashkin get a lighter sentence""""


I got a bridge to sell.



"""But the more I see the tactics of his attorneys and supporters, the more I think it would be better for Rubashkin to rot in prison for his full 27-year sentence."""

Goes without saying. Nobody is doubting for one minute that that's what you wished for.

[Cheskel]

OMG,

You are a fine secular Jew who goes only by the truth and obeys the law.You would never even try asking a retailer to not charge you sales tax.

I am sure your whole life is full of good deeds and you will never refuse doing a favor.

You long for the truth so much that you cant stand it if someone lies, even if the "lie" will help a jew.

[Sarah K]

Weiner is doing what he was PAID to do -- paid for by the criminal, his family and his supporters. Weiner's also trying to gain favor in certain segments of the Jewish community for his mayoral run. He needs big bucks since he's up against others who are well-funded. Typical sleazy behavior on the part of a politician.

[Just the facts]

No, you don't know much about any legal matters, OMG- certainly judging by your silly posts. As many in the legal community well remember, Sleazeball Bigot Holder made waves introducing the 'Jew=flight risk to Israel=no bail' canard in a motion against a hassidic defendant about 15 years ago, notwithstanding the fact that then as now, said defendant had no links to Israel, and would have been extradited right back in any event. Don't make me sick by defending this scum Holder - his record on race issues, especially of late (voter intimidation case / new black panthers), is quite clear.
If you won't go back to school, how about reading some newspapers, OMG ??

[OMG]

Cheskel; I thank you for your kind words, but you are wrong, every person has some baggage, as the saying goes, "every person has a price". For some it is only a few dollars, others, it might be a million or two. To judge a person personality, is not if he committed a crime, because maybe he didn’t have an opportunity, the payoff was lower than his price. The only way you could actually determine if a person has the right stuff, is after he got caught, how is he trying to defend himself, and after the trial how is he handling the verdict, as the saying goes "if you cannot do the time, don’t do the crime". By no means am I suggesting, that a defendant and his attorney throw in the preverbal towel, every advocate has a responsibility to zealously defend his client in this adversarial system. But by no means does the system give a green light, to the attorney, to defame the Judge and prosecutions team. Using the race card will not help his client, it will only bring more scrutiny to this and other orthodox Jews. I for one don’t like any scrutiny to any Jew, therefore I would urge the Orthodox side of my family, to think twice, once before you committed the crime, and after you are found guilty, how are you going to repent and would you take it as a man.

In regard to you freely admitting that you would lie to help another Jew. That by itself is destructive to every Jew who in the future would face a trial; you just admitted that you’re willing to perjure yourself just to help another Jew. You see that is my point you and others like you, cannot be trusted to testify to the truth. All because you just want to help a Jew. Additionally, you see there are two types of lies. One is bending the truth to ones benefit, some people will call that a fib, others a white lie, then is the big bang, you are willing to accuse a Judge and prosecutors as corrupted and Anti-Semites. This accusation is akin to exploding a hydrogen bomb, this is unethical at best. You see I am not willing to lift a finger to destroy the whole Jewish community, when I know that the fraudster would still be in jail, no matter how many H bomb YOU are willing to detonate.

Finally, I am not secular I am a conservative Jew, a Jew without the self imposed baggage.

[OMG]

Just the facts @ 1:51 PM
Judging by your pronouncements, especially you are mentioning the alleged voter intimidation case, because two idiots with new Black Panther’s uniforms hung out in front of a polling place. That gives me enough insight into your views; sorry a long time ago I decided not to debate herein, any political agendas if it is not related to Jewish causes, sorry lets agree to disagree. My goal here is not to change your mind, I cannot do that, I am here to tell the world, that there are Jews who are supportive of this US, because it is the greatest country in the world, on the other hand you believe that Rubashkin is the greatest Jew, in my eyes he is nothing more than fraudster, who got caught with his sticky fingers in the cookie jar.

[Cheskel]

OMG,

To write a letter to a congressman who is trying to help a Jew,i doubt if you be bothered if orthodox Jews would be scrutinised more.

Rubashkin's main problem,is his orthodoxy and his beard.That's why Morris Allen got involved and for the same reason it was bashing time on this blog on an hourly basis for the last few years.

Nathan Lewin claims that the Judge was IN with the prosecutor from the get go.I haven't read the documents,i believe him over of the kind people posting here.

Perjury is a crime and i wouldn't do that.Your claim was that Lewin lied which i don't think so, and i was referring to that.Most orthodox Jews would rather go to prison then to testify against another Jew and the government knows that.

And finally please enlighten me what conservative Jews such as yourself follow. Shabbos,family purity,mikvah,tefilin every day,praying three times a day. ?

[Shmarya]

Nathan Lewin claims that the Judge was IN with the prosecutor from the get go.I haven't read the documents,i believe him over of the kind people posting here.

And that's the point.

I've had the documents posted here for two weeks.

In that time, you have made no effort to read them.

At the same time, you have decided that Lewin – who is nogeiah b'davar – is telling the truth and Lewin's critics are lying.

You are a coward. And you are intellectually dishonest.

[Cheskel]

I must admit that i am not that good in reading legal documents.

I am sure many experts read the documents and i wonder how come we don't hear from them that Lewin lies.
Starting with the PETA video,anyone following the case with an open mind saw what the agenda was.

[steve]

Rubashkin's main problem,is his orthodoxy and his beard.That's why Morris Allen got involved

No, that is the only reason YOU got involved as did Pinny Lipshitz and the Agudah. If these same crimes were committed by a clean shaven Jew who didn't pretend to be "frum", none of these dor hapalaga "achdus" activists would give a damn. The fact that SMR wears a beard and pretends to be a holy man only magnifies the chillul hashem. The transparent hypocrisy and the massive chillul hashem that he perpetrated are the reasons that he has been the subject of this blog and many others. Stop trying to make a martyr out of this criminal. Was his sentence fair? No. However, he has only himself, his friends and his attorneys to blame for the stubborn stance taken from day one. Violating his bail agreement and committing perhury did not help matters either. Of course you choose to ignore these facts in order to fulfill your fantasy that every Jew with a hat and a beard is a perfect tzaddik who is not capable of any criminal activity.

[Shmarya]

I must admit that i am not that good in reading legal documents.

I am sure many experts read the documents and i wonder how come we don't hear from them that Lewin lies.
Starting with the PETA video,anyone following the case with an open mind saw what the agenda was.

Please.

Most of the documents are NOT legal documents; they are memos from ICE about raid planning.

Past that very obvious fact, I have repeatedly shown that Lewin misquoted those documents in his press release, and other Rubashkin attorneys have since done the same.

Even Avi Moskowitz, a former Deputy AUSA, noted the most important of those misquotes.

But Cheskel isn't smart enough or honest enough or caring enough or religious enough to look at the facts.

Pathetic.

[Cheskel]

IF it as you say then Lewins career is finished,and that is only IF. And still i wonder how come we don't hear from others besides some orthodox Jew haters that Lewin lies.

As far as me not "being smart enough or honest enough or caring enough or religious enough to look at the facts". Same as you will never find anything wrong with case (besides what you claim that you wanted ONLY 12-15 years) the same in reverse is my opinion.

Why dont you get it?

[Shmarya]

And still i wonder how come we don't hear from others besides some orthodox Jew haters that Lewin lies.

Avi Moskowitz is Orthodox and is not known as a "Jew hater."

As far as me not "being smart enough or honest enough or caring enough or religious enough to look at the facts". Same as you will never find anything wrong with case (besides what you claim that you wanted ONLY 12-15 years) the same in reverse is my opinion.

Why dont you get it?

No, Cheskel.

Your opinion is *not* based on fact – as you yourself admitted.

You may disagree with me, but my opinions *are* fact based.

[Cheskel]

On another post somewhere you twisted a bit Avi Moskowitz words,so i don't know what he said regarding Lewins lies.(some posters made you aware of it then)

My opinion is based on what Lewin says and i take it as a fact. And being such a thug as you claim he is,its impossible that he became one of the most noted attorneys in the country.Its also based how the case was conducted and with what kind of rishes it was done.

Your opinion is based on hatred towards the entire orthodox community especial against Rubashkin.

See you monday

[yeshivaman]

Stop the hate gimme a break

[Shmarya]

On another post somewhere you twisted a bit Avi Moskowitz words,so i don't know what he said regarding Lewins lies.

Please.

You are coward.

What Moskowitz said clearly and unambiguously is that a 'quote' Brenner was reading from Lewin's press release was NOT what the actual document said.

I was the first to notice this misquote of Lewin's and to publicize it.

But you – the haredi coward – are too ignorant, to spineless, and too dishonest to look at the documents or the truth.

[OMG]

Cheskel; you’re wrong, I have a large Chasidic family, and my children were taught at a tender age, to respect everybody, regardless of their religious beliefs, you see I am a true liberal, I respect everybody’s right to worship as they see fit. And for sure religious freedom doesn’t stop at the edge of the Williamsburg Bridge. Rubashkin’s problem is not that he has a beard; the real problem is that he has the gumption, to take millions in Tzedakah, when SMR on his own volition decided to perpetrated a fraud on the bank. Additionally in the motion Nat Lewin never claims that there was any corruption or illegalities, but in the news release and in all the face time with the religious crowds he strongly asserts, corruption to a scale, not seen since the KKK trials in Alabama and Mississippi in 1960’s. this what bugs me, not his beard, or his other shenanigans, I really practice what I preach, live and let live.

Additionally, I will not let you get off with a claim that you wouldn’t lie under oath because it is a crime, but you are willing to besmirch a Judge and a prosecution team all for what? You just admitted that you are willing to lie regardless of the consequences to people who are only doing their job. Just so one Jew should get away with fraud. I don’t want to participate in a Saddam and Gamora upside-down justice.

Finally, as young kid I used to wait for Passover the Seder was the most beautiful family gathering, one of the things I loved, we recited the Passover Haggadah and my father was full of life, one of passages always stuck out, were “The wicked one, what does he say? "What is this service to you?” so your question reminds me of the wicked child, you are disingenuous; you are not interested in what exactly I adhere to. You are just trying to use a brush to make it look like I am conservative, because I don’t want to adhere to the orthodoxy. You see you got it wrong, I am what I am, because after studying Jewish history I came to the conclusion, that 95% of the interpretation of Halacha, is self imposed rules, which our forefathers never practices during the days of the Kingdom. I am prepared for your onslaught; it doesn’t phase me at all.

[steve]

Midvar Sheker Tirchak!

[effie]

Anthony Weiner Is Not Ashamed That He Used to Look Like Jennifer Grey

[Just the facts]

Look here OMG, before attempting to debate me, it might behoove you to read what I actually wrote, instead of defaulting to your standard immature hyperbole.
I never claimed "Rubashkin was the greatest Jew" or anything of the sort. I merely pointed out that it's quite clear that he did not receive a fair trial, which is his constitunional right. The appelate court has yet to weigh in on that.
As for your delusional fantasies regarding Holder and his Black Panther buddies, I suggest you read http://online.wsj.com/article/NA_WSJ_PUB:SB10001424052970203550604574361071968458430.html so you can decide whether you truly value the constitutional rights of all Americans, or only when it suits your narrow agenda. Rubashkin is no less American than these black thugs. "Justice for all..." remember ?

[Jose Gonzalez]

YES! JUSTICE WILL BE SERVED!

EAT MY SHORTS!

You are a bunch of anti-semites!

Thanks G-d there are people in this world that are willing to make a cry for Justice.

Morris APOLOGIZE!

[effie]

I merely pointed out that it's quite clear that he did not receive a fair trial, which is his constitunional right.

It's quite clear that you are delusional.

The appelate court has yet to weigh in on that.

That's right, putz. You're not the appellate court.

[OMG]

Just the facts;
As I wrote yesterday, I am not going to debate the black panther/voter intimidation case, out of Pennsylvania, nothing changed since my last refusal to debate your views on its facts or merits. As to your point that you never claimed that "Rubashkin was the greatest Jew" it is true that you never wrote verbatim, that Rubashkin is the greatest Jew, but from your inaction, for all the other thousands of Jews who are lingering in jail, I could easily extrapolate that the reason you are only fighting for Rubashkin, is because in your view, he is the *ONE* and only one, therefore I don’t need from you, any written confirmation, your overall action/inaction will suffice.

Additionally, it seems that you and a few other imbeciles claim that Rubashkin didn’t have a fair trial, while this motion centers on Judge Reade ex parte communications with law enforcement and the prosecution team, the whole motion centers around one point only, Lewin is arguing that in HIS view, Judge Reade didn’t fully disclose her ex parte communications prior the arrest. Therefore the defense never filed for recusal, and the affidavits from Guy Cook and Montgomery Brown, swears to that point, that if they know that the Judge had extensive ex parte communications, they would have filled a recusal motion. Based on this argument Lewin is asking for, one- a new trial, two- if that is not granted, at least to get the ability to reopen discovery and see if he could find any evidence to support his position, and if that is granted it should be send back to another Judge to hold the hearing. Nowhere in this motion does Nat argue that the trial itself was somewhat not fair or tainted, that argument will be played out at another day. And when that motion is filed, we will have a look at Lewin’s points, and the prosecutions counter point, and finally we will have our own views, all based on Lewin’s and the prosecution motions, not flight of the imagination.

Finally, let me give that good advice that you gave me, and change it a bit, to make it fit for this occasion, before you write, take the time and read the actual motion, with the accompanying, affidavit and exhibits. Then and only then you could claim that you have “just the facts” as your pseudonym implies.