Haredi Press Praises Govt Decision To Deport Children Of Foreign Workers

"History teaches us that foreign elements that come to countries offering them work are destined to destroy the absorbing country, or to take it over."

Haredi press praises kids' deportation
Jewish magazines say 'Israel's Jewish character' endangered by foreign kids granted citizenship
Kobi Nahshoni • Ynet

Many members of the ultra-Orthodox community praised a government decision made Sunday on the deportation of hundreds of foreign workers' children.
 
United Torah Judaism's three magazines published articles on the issue Monday, some of them relating to new conversion laws and hatred of haredim.

An editorial carried by Hamevaser (The Herald) explained, "History teaches us that foreign elements that come to countries offering them work are destined to destroy the absorbing country, or to take it over."

The article added that "hundreds of thousands of Christian, Buddhist, Muslim, and Hindu foreign workers (together with hundreds of thousands of non-Jewish immigrants) place the state's Jewish character in danger".

Of those opposed to the deportation the paper says, "More than they have love for all people, they possess an abysmal hatred for Judaism. This animosity towards Jewish values is also apparent in all decisions made lately on the right of return, Jewish identity, and non-halachic conversion."

It adds that the government's move was not nearly satisfying, but that it is "a step in the right direction".

Yated Newspaper published an article by A. Yitzhaki, who said that "usually there is a parallel between these sympathetic people (i.e: those who opposed the deportation) and those who encourage the starvation of haredi children".

Referring to Education Minister Gideon Saar's vote against the decision he wrote, "Finally no haredi children are involved and there is no fear that they will vote for ultra-Orthodox parties and endanger the secular hegemony in Israel."

Yitzhaki added that the government now fears the growth of the ultra-Orthodox population more than it does the growth of the non-Jewish population. The haredim, he wrote, "are the ones against whom a battle needs to be waged in order to stop growth in any way possible, especially by starving their children."

Hamodia also published a pessimistic editorial claiming that the foreign kids allowed to remain in Israel endanger the state. The article called the opposition to deportation "demagoguery of delicate souls".

It was especially critical of the timing, just a short while after Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu prevented the Conversion Law from passing, thereby preventing the possibility of "fortifying Israel's Judaism".

Thanks to these moves, the paper says, in the future the state will not be considered Jewish "but for a few islands of haredim".

"The Zionist movement has been pursued by a rolling stone for some time, and now it has been buried without a coffin," it adds. "Even the most delusional Zionists never dreamt of a state in which Sudanese, Russian, Thai, Ukrainian, Eritrean, and Romanian people get citizenship."

[Hat Tip: Seymour.]

Comments

[phil]

As it says in the Torah,

Hovo nischakmo lo pen yirbeh vehoyo ki sikreno milchomo venosaf gam hu al sonenu venilcham bonu veoloh min hooretz.

The absolute prototype of anti-Semitism said by Pharoah before he started throwing Jewish babies in the Nile.

And now used by Jews against non-Jews in Israel.

What do we learn from this? Ve'ohavtem es hager ki geirim heyisem be'ertz mitzroyim.

These hareidim think they're frum?? It's questionable whether their belief system is even Jewish.

[dlz]

I don't think that illegal immigrants can be compared to geirim....

[phil]

I wasn't comparing them to geirim. I was comparing them to the 70 Jews let in to Egypt who became a huge nation.

And the chareidim to the kmaaseh eretz mitzrayim which they seem to be copying.

[chicago sam]

I woud much rather see the government throw out the lazy haredim who do nothing to support the country. The govt should respectthe residential gentile, just like our Torah prescribes.

[al Farabi]

These haredim are such a bunch of fucking bigots! they make me sick and they are definately not jewish!

[Eliezer]

Yup. They sure shoulda kept the Jews out of the U.S.

[Eliezer]

Perhaps if they get rid of the foreign workers then the parasites now warming benches in the kollelim will take over as janitors and tomato pickers for less than the minimum wage.

[danny]

..."those who encourage the starvation of haredi children".

If one has starving children, then one needs to become an Am Haaretz and grow some damn food. G-d gave us all of the seed bearing plants to use. Well then USE THEM.

Some people do the work and grow the food... other people consume the food and fail to produce. This is simple mathematics.

[seymour]

the herideim sound like germans

[Doctor Memory]

Oh the irony. Perhaps the Turks and then the British should have listened more carefully to these Rabbis' advice?

[Yoel Mechanic]

For what it's worth: diz has a very valid point. Gerim in that passook is not traditionally understood in the way it is currently being used.

[Yoel Mechanic]

Eliezer: maybe that is why a minimum wage is needed. Look, no one is forcing anyone to hire a foreign worker... they do it because it is allowed and financially attractive. Maybe a minimum wage should be enforced.

[David]

The Turks and the British? And the Germans and Poles too?

These people are such a disgrace!

[phil]

Yoel and dlz, for what it's worth, the direct p'shat in the mikro of geirim before the later parshanut revisionism is in comparison to our geirut in Egypt - in other words, foreign residents, not semi converts. We get a new Torah to lead a different lifestyle as distinct from what went on in Egypt.

Ve'ohavton es hager, WHY, ki geirim heyisem beeretz mitzrayim. Ger appears twice in the same possuk - its difficult to believe it means two different things.

[Radical Feminist]

If we hope to save the dream of Ben Gurion and Golda Meir we have GOT to start encouraging secular Aliyah. the problem is the number of immigrants to Israel, and many are coming from the USA, are downright religious fanatics of every ilk.

[danny]

Radical Feminist -- encouraging secular aliyah is a futile proposition. Most secular people from U.S. and Europe really can't adjust. Among the secular zionists that I know, 15 out of 16 who attempted aliyah returned within 4 years.

[anuran]

Hmm. I think see a precedent. The only problem is that the Haredim posek Pharaoh instead of Moishe.

1:8 A new king who did not know of Joseph, came into power over Egypt.

1:9 He announced to his people, 'The Israelites are becoming too numerous and strong for us.

1:10 We must deal wisely with them. Otherwise, they may increase so much, that if there is war, they will join our enemies and fight against us, driving [us] from the land.'

1:11 [The Egyptians] appointed conscription officers over [the Israelites] to crush their spirits with hard labor. [The Israelites] were to build up the cities of Pithom and Ra'amses as supply centers for Pharaoh.

1:12 But the more [the Egyptians] oppressed them, the more [the Israelites] proliferated and spread. [The Egyptians] came to dread the Israelites.

1:13 The Egyptians started to make the Israelites do labor designated to break their bodies.

1:14 They made the lives of [the Israelites] miserable with harsh labor involving mortar and bricks, as well as all kinds of work in the field. All the work they made them do was intended to break them.

1:15 The king of Egypt spoke to the [chief] Hebrew midwives, whose names were Shifra and Puah.

1:16 He said, 'When you deliver Hebrew women, you must look carefully at the birthstool. If [the infant] is a boy, kill it; but if it is a girl, let it live.'

1:17 The midwives feared God, and did not do as the Egyptian king had ordered them. They allowed the infant boys to live.

1:18 The king of Egypt summoned the midwives and demanded, 'Why did you do this? You let the infant boys live!'

1:19 'The Hebrew women are not like the Egyptians,' replied the midwives to Pharaoh. 'They know how to deliver. They can give birth before a midwife even gets to them.'

[Yoel Mechanic]

my quick impression: the Chareidi parties wish to act in the best interests of Jews and Judaism. That is fine...really! But what's with all this acting like back-seat drivers and arm chair politicians? It is like someone wants authority, but not the responsibilities that go with authority. A more moderate approach to this is offered by Moshe Feiglin of Manhigut Yehudit.

[shir]

Even among the haredim there is a secret movement of people who realize that their religion is hijacked by the erev rav. Those people while still going to regular haredi shuls do not have much involvement with their surrounding they just keep to themselves and sometime use private mikvahas.

[Mr. Apikoros]

Haben Sie ein Problem mit Deutschers, Seymour?

[Seraphya Berrin]

According to midrash, tradition, etc. In Egypt the Jews kept to themselves and were still called gerim in the Tanakh.
It sounds like a real mix between the allies not accepting Jews in WWII and Pharoh

[anuran]

Shir, it had better become less secret and soon. Otherwise Israel and Judaism are in real danger.